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Old December 7th 04, 08:30 PM
Chris Catt
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Default SP2 64 bit version?

Hi Rob, this might be a long shot but have you by any chance used ver 4.53
of the Via 4 in 1's and installed via's own cpu to agp driver. It is
recommended to use the MS one that comes with SP1, even via have recognised
the problem and the latest 4 in 1's do not install the via driver. It was
just what BadDg said about it linked to the video card that made me think
it might be this....
Chris C
"Rob" wrote in message
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Hello again Chris ,

Yes maybe you and BadDg are right , "Major issue" is probably overstating
it a bit I guess when I saw all the folks at the AMD 64 support forums
having
the same issues I just assumed it to be that bad , I think I'm just gonna
have to deal with not using SP2 on my 64 system.

My 2800XP works fine though , NOT 1 probelm as a matter fact its more
stable , with nearly all the same hardware (drivers and soforth) except
for
the onboard sound.

But I can't even run SP2 on my 64 for a week without IE6 and OE giveing me
errors and having to have DEP ignore them then alot of other programs
follow
, my guide plus+ (not a nessessary program I know , but I like it =) )
will
not even start , and forget Norton IS and Zone Alarm.

I'm going to give it 1 more try and this time I'm going to test it with
every driver install untill I find the problem...and then i give up.

PS: I have a K8V SE Dlx with a AMD63 3200 (1mb L2) and I love it!! I love
ASUS boards =)

Thanks Chris

"Chris Catt" wrote:

Hi, maybe AMD are aware of something I'm not but my system is working
flawlessly, Asus A8V AMD64 3500 Winchester, SP2, dep turned on for all
programs and services. If there was a 'major' issue then all of the
newsgroups, forms and press would be full of it, which they aren't.
Stating
that it's a 'major', issue is, in my opinion overstating the case. I'm
not
in anyway indenting to insult or flame you but we should steer clear of
using such emotive words....
Chris C
Chris C
"Rob" wrote in message
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http://forums.amd.com/index.php?s=6e...&showf orum=7

These are the offical AMD Prosesser Forums , in here under any heading
with
the words AMD 64's and XP SP2 in the title you will find the info I'm
talking
about including a response from AMD Tech Support admitting the problem
with
the suggestion NOT to install SP2 untill MS fixes it.

The letter from AMD support as found on their Forums is as follows:

Thank you for contacting AMD's Technical Service Center.

As I stated, there is no difficulties from a hardware perspective. All
of the conflicts arising are driver related (Mpegport.sys, etc). These
drivers were written in such a way that they conflict with Microsoft's
implementation of DEP. We also tested SP2 with our processors prior to
its release and found no conflicts. Somewhere between the beta build
we have of SP2 and final release, new issues have risen.

These problems are associated with AMD because we are the only ones at
the moment that have Enhanced Virus Protection. When Intel comes out
with their next round, they will also have something like EVP
(actually, exactly the same thing just with a different name). Windows
XP SP2 will have the same problems with those processors as well.

Unfortunately, we are paying the price for being an industry leader in
this area. SP2 has more problems than just the DEP, yet this is what
people are focusing on.

As for your resolution, unfortunately, it will probably be best to hold
off on SP2 until Microsoft resolves these issues.

Hope this helps. If you have any other questions, please feel free to
contact me.

Regards,
Jim
CPU Specialist
AMD TSC

I also saw that you posted in these forums allready so you probably
allready saw this and just choose not to believe it.
But trust me , if you have/ever get this problem your gonna know it!!

Rob

"Chris Catt" wrote:

Hi, "There is a major problem with AMD64's", news to me, where did you
get
that information from. I trawl around many AMD64 forums and haven't
seen
any
evidence that SP2 has problems with AMD64 processors. Are you maybe
getting
confused with SP2 having problems with motherboard bios's?
Chris C
"Rob" wrote in message
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Does ANYONE have any info or links for SP2 for Win XP made
specifically
for
AMD 64 CPUs?

Not a 64bit version!! but rather SP2 made for AMD 64's running on a
32bit
version of XP.

There is a major problem with AMD64's and the DEP feature in SP2 ,
and
it
was said somewhere (I can't remember where)that MS was/would be
working
on
a
special verson of SP2.

I have serched the MS site myself and come up empty , MS FAQ's/Help
and
Support pointed me here.

Thanks








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