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Old December 8th 04, 12:03 PM
Chris
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Default SP2 64 bit version?

Hi, sorry looked through my post and saw that I put the SP1 cpu to agp
version, that should read SP2's version, apologies....
Chris C
"Chris" wrote in message
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Hi, I think the way to do it is to d/load the 4.53's, start the setup and
click on uninstall, that should remove the hyperions, make sure you backup
your system first. Now re-install the 4.53 but use normal install and
uncheck the cpu to agp, let the install take place then reboot and install
the 4.55's. Hopefully this will keep SP2's MS driver....
Chris C
"Rob" wrote in message
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Actually your right I have used the 4.53 every time , I just d/l the 4.55
the other day which is supposed to NOT install the AGP driver if you have
SP2
installed.....that Just may be the problem!!!

I allways install my System like this:

XP Pro/SP1

SP2 (on disk)

DX9C (installed with SP2)

VIA 4 in 1's (4.53)

other mobo Drivers , NIC , SATA.....

Video

Sound

I get all updates

EVERYTIHNG ELSE.

I think I will try it without the VIA AGP driver this time and see what
shakes!!!

HEY!! I wonder if I can roll back my AGP driver to the SP1 and just
upgrade
to SP2 without doing a whole reformat??? I may try that first , if you
don't
here from me it didn't work and I can't reinstall XP till after Christmas
(will be working this weekend Till!!) or I guess I could use my wifes
PC......if she'll let me , hers works flawlessly with SP2 =(

GREAT INFO!! man I hope this works.....allthough I really don't know why
I'm trying to install SP 2 so badly.....its a sickness I think.

Have a Fantastc Holliday!!! =)

Rob

"Chris Catt" wrote:

Hi Rob, this might be a long shot but have you by any chance used ver
4.53
of the Via 4 in 1's and installed via's own cpu to agp driver. It is
recommended to use the MS one that comes with SP1, even via have
recognised
the problem and the latest 4 in 1's do not install the via driver. It
was
just what BadDg said about it linked to the video card that made me
think
it might be this....
Chris C
"Rob" wrote in message
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Hello again Chris ,

Yes maybe you and BadDg are right , "Major issue" is probably
overstating
it a bit I guess when I saw all the folks at the AMD 64 support forums
having
the same issues I just assumed it to be that bad , I think I'm just
gonna
have to deal with not using SP2 on my 64 system.

My 2800XP works fine though , NOT 1 probelm as a matter fact its more
stable , with nearly all the same hardware (drivers and soforth)
except
for
the onboard sound.

But I can't even run SP2 on my 64 for a week without IE6 and OE
giveing me
errors and having to have DEP ignore them then alot of other programs
follow
, my guide plus+ (not a nessessary program I know , but I like it =) )
will
not even start , and forget Norton IS and Zone Alarm.

I'm going to give it 1 more try and this time I'm going to test it
with
every driver install untill I find the problem...and then i give up.

PS: I have a K8V SE Dlx with a AMD63 3200 (1mb L2) and I love it!! I
love
ASUS boards =)

Thanks Chris

"Chris Catt" wrote:

Hi, maybe AMD are aware of something I'm not but my system is working
flawlessly, Asus A8V AMD64 3500 Winchester, SP2, dep turned on for
all
programs and services. If there was a 'major' issue then all of the
newsgroups, forms and press would be full of it, which they aren't.
Stating
that it's a 'major', issue is, in my opinion overstating the case.
I'm
not
in anyway indenting to insult or flame you but we should steer clear
of
using such emotive words....
Chris C
Chris C
"Rob" wrote in message
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http://forums.amd.com/index.php?s=6e...&showf orum=7

These are the offical AMD Prosesser Forums , in here under any
heading
with
the words AMD 64's and XP SP2 in the title you will find the info
I'm
talking
about including a response from AMD Tech Support admitting the
problem
with
the suggestion NOT to install SP2 untill MS fixes it.

The letter from AMD support as found on their Forums is as follows:

Thank you for contacting AMD's Technical Service Center.

As I stated, there is no difficulties from a hardware perspective.
All
of the conflicts arising are driver related (Mpegport.sys, etc).
These
drivers were written in such a way that they conflict with
Microsoft's
implementation of DEP. We also tested SP2 with our processors prior
to
its release and found no conflicts. Somewhere between the beta
build
we have of SP2 and final release, new issues have risen.

These problems are associated with AMD because we are the only ones
at
the moment that have Enhanced Virus Protection. When Intel comes
out
with their next round, they will also have something like EVP
(actually, exactly the same thing just with a different name).
Windows
XP SP2 will have the same problems with those processors as well.

Unfortunately, we are paying the price for being an industry leader
in
this area. SP2 has more problems than just the DEP, yet this is
what
people are focusing on.

As for your resolution, unfortunately, it will probably be best to
hold
off on SP2 until Microsoft resolves these issues.

Hope this helps. If you have any other questions, please feel free
to
contact me.

Regards,
Jim
CPU Specialist
AMD TSC

I also saw that you posted in these forums allready so you probably
allready saw this and just choose not to believe it.
But trust me , if you have/ever get this problem your gonna know
it!!

Rob

"Chris Catt" wrote:

Hi, "There is a major problem with AMD64's", news to me, where did
you
get
that information from. I trawl around many AMD64 forums and
haven't
seen
any
evidence that SP2 has problems with AMD64 processors. Are you
maybe
getting
confused with SP2 having problems with motherboard bios's?
Chris C
"Rob" wrote in message
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Does ANYONE have any info or links for SP2 for Win XP made
specifically
for
AMD 64 CPUs?

Not a 64bit version!! but rather SP2 made for AMD 64's running
on a
32bit
version of XP.

There is a major problem with AMD64's and the DEP feature in SP2
,
and
it
was said somewhere (I can't remember where)that MS was/would be
working
on
a
special verson of SP2.

I have serched the MS site myself and come up empty , MS
FAQ's/Help
and
Support pointed me here.

Thanks













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