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Old September 27th 09, 06:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
SC Tom[_3_]
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Default Would you recommend "Thunderbird" for my E-mail Application?


"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:44:43 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote:


"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 01:46:01 -0700, Ray10X10 vacantlot.com wrote:

Thank You for your help.

I use Windows XP2, Microsoft Office 2003, Internet Explorer 6, Outlook
Express,
and Comcast High Speed Cable Internet.

I have frequent trouble with Outlook Express.

Would you recommend "Thunderbird" for my E-mail Application?

If no, what E-mail program would you recommend?

Thank You for your willingness to help a novice.



The problem with your question is that you are asking for an opinion,
not a fact. And opinions among the people in this newsgroup (as well
as elsewhere) will vary widely. That's because we all work differently
and have different needs in software, as well as different likes and
dislikes. Other people's opinions shouldn't count to you. You should
try several e-mail clients and choose the one *you* like best.

But since you asked, no I personally wouldn't recommend Thunderbird. I
would recommend Outlook (not Outlook Express, which is a very
different program). I use Outlook 2007, but if you have Office 2003,
you have Outlook 2003 and that's what I recommend you at least try.

If you like Outlook Express, you should describe your problems with it
in the Outlook Express newsgroup, and get help with the problems
there.

And by the way, this isn't a web-based forum; it's a newsgroup. You
are using the awful web interface to participate in this
newsgroup--it's the slowest, clunkiest, most error-prone method of
using the newsgroups there is. Do yourself a favor and switch to a
newsreader, such as Outlook Express, which comes with Windows XP, or
Windows Mail, which comes with Vista (or again, any of the many others
available; I personally use and like Forte Agent). See
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup


I read the link and am confused by one thing (well, maybe more than one,
but
one stands out).



Feel free to also ask any other questions you have.


In order to access newsgroups from Outlook 2003,



*No* version of Outlook, neither Outlook 2003 nor any other, does
newsgroups. That's one of the many differences between Outlook and
Outlook Express. (However note that there are third-party programs
that add newsreader capability to Outlook.)

However Outlook has a menu item (on the Go menu) or toolbar icon to
invoke your newsreader. By default it invokes Outlook Express, but in
some versions of Outlook, you can switch it to another newsreader.


doesn't
Outlook Express have to be already installed?



Yes, but if you're running XP, Outlook Express is installed unless
you've removed it.


I read it as using OE news
within OL2003. Is that correct?



No. There's no "within" involved here. Outlook Express runs as a
completely separate program, as it always does. All Outlook does here
is launch Outlook Express in new sonly mode for you when you click the
menu item or toolbar icon. Alternatively you could launch it yourself,
with exactly the same result.


(I'll miss OE in Windows 7, that's for sure.)



Why? There are many other programs that do e-mail and/or newsgroups,
and several of them are arguably better than Outlook Express. I've
been using Outlook for e-mail and Forte Agent for newsgroups for many
years, and I prefer them to Outlook Express. It's your choice, of
course, and you don't have to do things my way, but I do suggest that
you at least try some of the alternatives.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup


Thanks for the responses, Ken!
I guess what I'll miss is the comfort level of OE. I've used it since it was
first released with Windows, and have never had a need to try anything else
for news. But, since 7 isn't going to include a client, I'll need to use
something else.
I own Office 2003 which is why I was asking about the need for OE. I guess
the better question would have been, "If I install OL2003 in Windows 7, am I
going to able to access my newsgroups?" Without a 3rd-party news reader, I
guess the answer is "No."
I'm familiar with Outlook (used it for many years at work), so I knew it had
no native ability to access newsgroups. I have an older version of Forte
(3.something), but never really liked it. I fired it up today to see what I
could do with it, and still don't like it.
Maybe I'll try T'Bird for a change.

SC Tom

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