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l-september.org, Peter
Kozlov wrote:
I like Lenovo and
Apple. Although I am worried about the keyboard on my Mac. Lot of chatter
about failure rates.
which mac? the new butterfly keyboards on the macbooks have a higher
incidence of repair than the older keyboards, but it's not like pc
keyboards don't ever have problems either, or other problems, such as
the surface laptops. nothing is perfect.
Yeah, I have the 2017 MacBook with the newest butterfly switches. Better than
the 2016 version Iım told.
it is, with slightly more travel.
they keyboard is designed so that it's harder for dust ingress, but
that also means if dust does get in, it's also harder for it to get
out.
I have AppleCare so it should be fixed on
Appleıs dime.
until it runs out...
I briefly had a problem with the R key but I used compressed
air and it went away instantly. But for a second there I got to thinking
about the issue. It got pretty real for a second. I thought I read somewhere
that the overall percentage of users having issues is low but that it is
higher than previously standard keyboards Apple has used.
yep. the overall number is low, but reportedly higher than before.
only apple has exact numbers. everyone else is guessing.
The bigger problem
is the cost of fixing it. I hear it is $700 because they have to replace the
whole top of the Mac to do it. Hopefully Apple knows what they are doing and
acting in their customerıs best interest.
the cost is only an issue if it fails out of warranty, so after
applecare runs out, consider your options.
meanwhile, a keyboard cover might be a good choice.
on the other hand, if it's an imac, get whatever keyboard you want,
which you can also do with a macbook, except that it's no longer as
portable.
You mean an external keyboard? It does help in a crises situation. But Apple
should acknowledge that they have made a product prone to failure rates get
out of the norm and from what I have read they are out of the norm.
it depends what is 'out of the norm'.
although failures might be higher than previous models, the rate could
still be lower than competing products and within normal range.
you only hear of the problems and a lot of speculation of just how
widespread it actually is. people who don't have problems don't bother
posting (for any product).
nothing is perfect every product has some (hopefully small) number of
failures, no matter who makes it.
apple stores also have a lot of flexibility in what they can do, and
many times, an out of warranty repair is done for no cost, sometimes
replaced with a new computer (which has better specs than the old
broken one). in other words, a free upgrade.
there have been repair extensions for various problems, such as
defective gpus, which affected more than just apple.
there's a major flaw in some intel atom chips which is affecting a slew
of products, including cisco, synology, netgear and many others.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/0...ine_to_link_pr
oduct_warning_to_faulty_chip/
synology has a repair extension for affected products, but it's not
clear whether the replacement will eventually fail at some point or
not.
I tried SUSE Linux a few times and each time I needed help their community
bent over backwards to provide support. It all looks very good to me. I
like the iPad a lot. I1d use that if I could get away with it. Sometimes it is
painful to use. Sometimes it is pure joy. It just depends. It doesn1t have
all the answers to my computing needs. I1d like to see Apple go ARM
ios devices are arm, however, macs remain intel, at least for now.
Iım referring to the Mac. Iıd like to see the Mac go ARM and bring over
some of those benefits to MacOS.
ios features are processor agnostic, but an arm-based mac would have
much longer battery life, as do the new arm-based windows laptops.
there have been numerous clues over the years that a transition to arm
for macs is coming. apple's arm chips are already benchmarking at or
above many intel chips.
It is shockingly good right now. I have the iPad Pro 10.5² and range
GeekBench on that vs a MacBook Pro dual core i5 3.1 GHz. The A10 was just
about on par.
indeed it is, and the a12 is coming soon...
some of intel's chips are quite late, which is yet another reason why
apple would prefer using their own chips.
I thought I had read somewhere that intel for Apple carries a lot of extra
baggage that they just donıt need. The very deep sleep modes that Arm gives
the iPad would be welcomed on the MacBook.
there's a lot of legacy crap that windows pcs rely on, which apple does
not need.
and
merge in some of the benefits of the iPad into the Mac.
they have been doing that, although some things don't directly match up.
touch and keyboard/mouse are very different paradigms.
Well, Iım the guy who wants the physical keyboard gone and replaced with a
virtual one like the on-screen iPad uses. So...
a touch ui is much more than having a glass keyboard.
Microsoft is doing ARM again and it sounds like it could work if you don1t
need to use apps that require emulation. According to Paul Thurrot the
speed and battery life are good until you emulate to use an x86 app.
it depends on the app.
lightweight apps aren't a problem, but cpu-intensive apps, such as
video rendering, would be.
Iım amazed at the progress made by Apple and Qualcomm on ARM processors. I
donıt think weıre far off from this capability.
yep.
what would *really* be interesting is if apple licensed x86 and made
their own x86 compatible processors...
I think everything is going the direction of mobile. I do a lot on my
iPhone.
absolutely. mobile is the future.
Absolutely.
yep.