On Sat, 6 May 2017 11:57:06 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:
In message , Micky
writes:
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By golly, it will take 2G. This is the second computer for which I've
thought it had as much RAM as it could hold. I will look into what
fits it and what they sell when I get home.
If it's the same as mine (Samsung NC20, though I think the 10 is the
same), 2G is the biggest stick you can fit, and it only has one slot (so
you have to take out the 1G one).
Mike's suggestion of checking the ventilation is worth following: is
there a reasonable draught coming out of it somewhere, or just a gentle
(and hot!) breeze? Worth trying one of the utilities that reports
whatever temperature sensors it can find - I use
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php, but there are plenty of such
utilities. Although if it's responsive enough after booting, that's
probably not the cause (but worth checking anyway; [a] if it gets _too_
hot, it will just shut itself off suddenly to prevent damage, [b] I have
a strong suspicion this is what caused my disc drive to spotweld s
couple of years ago, before I'd realised the fan was failing). If you
_think_ it's responsive enough once booted, see if that still applies
when it has to access the disc: I had a friend whose computer was quite
responsive enough when you were just working with RAM (which covers a
surprising amount of time - e. g. reading emails, even editing a
document most of the time), but crawled when it had to access the disc
(which was failing - took a quarter of an hour to boot, and I think that
was Windows 98!).
Meanwhile, it has occurred to me that just before I started haiving
this startup problem, when shutting down the previous night, it
installed 6 XP updates. Is there any chance one of them has slowed
startup, and is there a place where the Uninstall files for them is
located?
I take it you either have applied the POS hack, or hadn't used it for a
Right.
_very_ long time! Even with the POS hack, my latest seems to contain
files dated 2016-6-17, and is (you'll almost certainly have to (Tools,
Folder Options, View) change Hidden files and folders to Show to see
these folders) C:\Windows\$NtUninstallKB3164035$ (one of _many_
$NtUninstall...$ folders there); it has what looks like an uninstall
.exe in a subfolder (as do most of the few I just looked at). But
whether these are safe to run, I have no idea; (a) image before you try
if you can, (b) I'd do them last one first - but I'd wait until someone
more knowledgeable than me (e. g. Paul, VanguardLH, etc.) comes along to
advise on doing this.
I didn't get to be president of a 4 billion dollar a year corporation
by waiting for Paul and Vanguard.
Wait... My company doesn't do 4 billion a year.
.... Wait. I don't have a corporation!
But I still didn't wait. There was only one directory for the
appriate date like the one you have above. It had a txt file which
didon't contain anything valuable. And it had spuninst.exe, which I
figured would uninstall the right one (since every folder had that
same exe file)
So I ran it and it had about 8 steps.
Assessing the situation, and it told me that the update had affected
net framework 4 and ie8. I installed NF4 for a program that it turned
out wouldn't run on XP anyhow, but uninstalls scare me so I left it, I
almost never use ie8. While FF and SMonkey have gotten better, IE8
stays an 8.
Checking for space
Closing services
Something about catalogs
Doing pre-uninstall stuff.
The first 4 ran almost instantaneously, the last took a few seconds.
Then it uninstalled and it also
Did post-uninstall stuff
Revised the registry
Something about catalogs.
Started services.
I've forgottent 1 step at most, but maybe none.
And it seems to have worked. Windows closed and reopened in 4
minutes. And last night I hibernated and it woke from that fine.
Even though I took the advice and cancelled the splash screen, I
didn't see any more. Either starting or coming out of hibernation ??
I wonder if it will offer to install the same update(s) again? LIke
an idiot, I didn't write down its number, even though I know it might
delete the relevant files. Which it did.
Fortunately I was smart enough to look in windows.log , which only
goes back a month, and had nothing about uninstalling today. That
really surprises me. But it does have about the install on 5/3, and
it says:
01:47:35:062+0300 1 193 102
{00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} 0 0
AutomaticUpdates Success Content Install Restart Required: To
complete the installation of the following updates, the computer must
be restarted. Until this computer has been restarted, Windows cannot
search for or download new updates: - Security Update for WES09 and
POSReady 2009 (KB4015383) - April, 2017 Security and Quality Rollup
for .NET Framework 4 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4014570) -
Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 8 for WES09 and
POSReady 2009 (KB4014661) - Security Update for Microsoft .NET
Framework 4 for WEPOS and POSReady 2009 (KB3135993) - Security Update
for Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and
Windows XP x86 (KB2756918) - April, 2017 Security and Quality Rollup
for .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4014580)
So it looks like I uninstalled 6 different updates. That's the number
I thought there were that night, but it would be nice to be able to
uninstall one at a time. When in the first step it gave me a list
of 3 programs that would be affected, it only gave Accept or Cancel as
choices.
"Until this computer has been restarted, Windows cannot search for or
download new updates: " That seemed to be the case but this is the
first time I've seen it in print. It seems to be part of the message
sent when system downloads are offered, but I've never seen this line.
Have you?