On 10/01/2018 21:40, Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 12:16:53 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

Joe Scotch wrote:

All that matters to me, from a privacy standpoint, is only what the NewPipe
people get and what Google get by way of my information.

EVERY webcentric program you run results in the other endpoint knowing
your IP address. Even if you use a VPN, the VPN provider knows your IP
address. Your web browser, e-mail client, telnet client, FTP client,
VPN client, and anything else connecting out results in the target
server getting your IP address.

I know you know this topic, but I don't think it was written clearly
enough above, which could lead to some confusion. The following is more
or less directed to the OP.

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Without a VPN or proxy:
The remote endpoint obviously needs to know your IP address so that it
can reply to you.

You send a request directly to the remote endpoint; the remote endpoint
sends a response directly to you.

***
With a VPN or proxy:
The VPN or proxy provider needs to know your IP address, but the remote
endpoint only needs to know the VPN or proxy IP.

You attempt to send a request to a remote endpoint. The request is
intercepted and sent to the VPN or proxy instead. On your behalf, the
VPN or proxy sends a separate request to the remote endpoint. The remote
endpoint responds back to the VPN or proxy, and in turn, the VPN or
proxy responds back to you.

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I lump VPN and proxy together because when they're used this way, they
are almost identical to each other. If the goal is to remain anonymous
to the remote endpoint, then VPN and proxy are indeed identical, and
that seems to be more and more how people are looking at a VPN. That's
not at all the traditional use or purpose of a VPN, but it's becoming a
popular new use case in recent years.


That is *EXACTLY* as *I* see it! :-)

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