GreyCloud wrote:

Stef wrote:

Joel wrote:

"Roger Blake" wrote in message
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On 2015-06-10, Joel wrote:
This machine it's slow to open applications and fast to close. That's
why I prefer older Windows versions, they are much smoother. And it's
becoming darker
interface like Linux.

There is no single "Linux user interface." Linux users have the choice
of quite a few, some very much like Windows, some like nothing else on
Earth. I use Xfce myself which has a pretty traditional look and feel,
and would hardly describe it as "dark."


The command console is usually black as ms-dos. I know Linux users can
change the wallpaper and configure the looks. You can have both on same
machine, there is a lot of options to do with those. Only thing I don't
understand is why they say Linux is safer and open source. Should be
closed and safer.

With Linux you can change everything or just about. Well, even "just
about" can be changed, but you have to get into the code and recompile
it which you can't do with proprietary "closed" software. And that's
one of the reasons that makes Linux "safer:" you can check the code for
"bad" things, edit them out, and recompile. Or fix errors. Or alter
the app to suit your needs.


That may be as one that can and understand linux and where the config files
are, but for the rest of the people, linux will be almost impossible for
them to configure without going to some school or class. If their wi-fi
connection doesn't work, what would you think their first reaction to this
will be?

Linux isn't for everyone. And it takes relearning. But Windows users
who try it, for some reason, expect it to be Windows, look like
Windows, and work like Windows. Why? I don't know. But they do. And
they quickly become frustrated and give up.

You don't need to go to school or class to learn Linux. I didn't.
Completely self taught. And my educational background isn't
computers. In fact, ALL my computer expertise I learned from books,
HOWTOs, research, and doing. So, if I can do it, anyone can. If they
try. Most don't. Too much work. They want it easy. Everything handed to
them in a nice neat pretty package. A sad commentary on the state of
contemporary education. And its failure. No one is taught to think
anymore.

What do Windows people do when the wifi doesn't work? They call tech
support. A Linux user will find out why it doesn't work and fix it.

Dell has tried to sell PCs with linux preinstalled and so has HP. Their
efforts were ignored by the public and soon the PCs were pulled from the
market place.

Linux (Ubuntu, I think) still available on Dells, and HPs, too.
Lenovos as well. They just make it hard to find on their web sites.
Probably due to pressure from Microsoft. But it's there.

The real problem is computing stagnation. Even HPs CEO recognizes this and
is trying to do something about this. Kind of reminds me of the 70s and
CP/M and S-100 boxes. That market stagnated as well. When IBM came out
with something new, the PC, the CP/M almost died overnight.

Microsoft and Windows have too much control over the market. That's
where the stagnation lies. Why improve when you have 90% of the market?
Linux, and to a certain extent Apple, are constantly changing and
improving, but they have too little marketshare to have any meaningful
effect. But MS has slowly been loosing ground to Linux. Mainly in the
server area among businesses and governments. They're pricing
themselves out of that market with outrageous licensing and fees.

Stef