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  #16  
Old February 25th 17, 03:54 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Neil
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On 2/23/2017 5:46 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"Neil" wrote

| I'm only going to remove fonts not based on roman/Latin/western
| characters. Neither do I plan on removing any dingbat/graphic fonts.
| Since I don't read, write, or speak any Asian language, I do not need
| those fonts. Same for Cyrillic.
|
| You may not use them when you create documents, but if you wind up on a
| website that uses them, you're going to see a mess. Only the commonly
| used fonts in other languages are supplied with the OS.
|
I don't have any such fonts and it's not a problem.
If I'm at a Chinese site I'll see little rectangles with
hex codes defining unicode characters that can't be
displayed. So I can't read the text. But I can't read
Chinese, anyway. It's all Greek to me. I can't
imagine why I'd want or need a Chinese font. The little
boxes tell me what I need to know: This webpage will
be of no use to me.


I still find it informative whether I wind up on a site with Kanji,
Cyrillic, or other lettering, even if I don't understand the language.
It at least tells me who their primary audience is. Seeing squares with
hex codes is not useful at all.

In the days when a "large" HD was 20GB, font management was more of a
concern than it is today. I can't really see any good reason to delete
the default fonts on a computer.

But, I think this has more to do with how one uses their computer than
whether a general recommendation can be made regarding such things.
Being that these are "personal computers", one can do with them as they
wish.

--
best regards,

Neil
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  #17  
Old February 25th 17, 07:52 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 2/25/17 7:54 AM, Neil wrote:
On 2/23/2017 5:46 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"Neil" wrote

| I'm only going to remove fonts not based on roman/Latin/western
| characters. Neither do I plan on removing any dingbat/graphic fonts.
| Since I don't read, write, or speak any Asian language, I do not need
| those fonts. Same for Cyrillic.
|
| You may not use them when you create documents, but if you wind up on a
| website that uses them, you're going to see a mess. Only the commonly
| used fonts in other languages are supplied with the OS.
|
I don't have any such fonts and it's not a problem.
If I'm at a Chinese site I'll see little rectangles with
hex codes defining unicode characters that can't be
displayed. So I can't read the text. But I can't read
Chinese, anyway. It's all Greek to me. I can't
imagine why I'd want or need a Chinese font. The little
boxes tell me what I need to know: This webpage will
be of no use to me.


I still find it informative whether I wind up on a site with Kanji,
Cyrillic, or other lettering, even if I don't understand the language.
It at least tells me who their primary audience is. Seeing squares with
hex codes is not useful at all.

In the days when a "large" HD was 20GB, font management was more of a
concern than it is today. I can't really see any good reason to delete
the default fonts on a computer.


So, you're in your favorite word processor, and you want to select a
different font. Do you want to scroll through 50 fonts or 150 fonts,
when you know you'll never use 100 of those fonts since you don't
need/use Cyrillic or Asian fonts? Personally, I get tired of having to
deal with the fonts I'll never use.

Then there's consistency for your own docs. You have two computers, one
is Windows 7, the other is Windows 10. You use a font in the doc you
created in Windows 7. Then you take the doc to Windows 10 and...
WHOA!!! That font is not on that machine... G Yes, you could embed
the fonts (I do when that is an option), but what if the program you
used does not offer font embedding, or you just forgot to do it?

Or... You use the font FloppyShoes in your file on Windows 7, and go to
Windows 10 which also has the font FloppyShoes. But the font files used
are not identical, and on Windows 10 things look just a little bit off.

But, I think this has more to do with how one uses their computer than
whether a general recommendation can be made regarding such things.
Being that these are "personal computers", one can do with them as they
wish.


Exactly. I use different computers and OSes depending on what I need to
accomplish. Occasionally, using more than one for the same project. So
I want to know that whatever font I use on System A will be there on
System C if I use System C for that project.

When I want to send this file to someone, it goes as a PDF with the
fonts embedded. That way it doesn't matter what software is installed
on the recipient's computer, it will look just as I intended it to look.


--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 51.0.1 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 45.7.1
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #18  
Old February 25th 17, 08:16 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mayayana
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"Ken Springer" wrote

| So, you're in your favorite word processor, and you want to select a
| different font. Do you want to scroll through 50 fonts or 150 fonts,
| when you know you'll never use 100 of those fonts since you don't
| need/use Cyrillic or Asian fonts? Personally, I get tired of having to
| deal with the fonts I'll never use.
|
I feel the same way. I like to collect interesting fonts.
There's no room for debris. When I do something like
create a birthday card for a friend I want only a good
selection of "atmosphere" fonts to choose from.
(Wedding invitation, brush calligraphy, art nouveau, and
various other styles.)

I have a backup folder of Win7 fonts -- 327 MB. I've got
another 40 MB of interesting style fonts. I'll add any style
font that looks good, but have no reason to keep other
fonts.


  #19  
Old February 25th 17, 08:25 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 11:52:05 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:


So, you're in your favorite word processor, and you want to select a
different font. Do you want to scroll through 50 fonts or 150 fonts,
when you know you'll never use 100 of those fonts since you don't
need/use Cyrillic or Asian fonts?




I just checked. I have 270 fonts installed. These are all fonts that I
chose to have installed. Yes that's a lot, and only rarely do I use
more than a dozen or so of them.

But WordPerfect (my favorite word processor) keeps the fonts I most
commonly used at the top of the list, so very rarely do I have to
scroll at all. I also checked in Microsoft Word 2016, which I have
installed but very rarely use; it does the same thing.

There are undoubtedly some fonts there I've never used and never will
use, but having those that I think I *might* use some day has such a
small penalty that I'm not inclined to remove any.


Personally, I get tired of having to
deal with the fonts I'll never use.



I don't know word processor you use, but if it's WordPerfect or Word,
dealing with many fonts is very easy.


Then there's consistency for your own docs. You have two computers, one
is Windows 7, the other is Windows 10. You use a font in the doc you
created in Windows 7. Then you take the doc to Windows 10 and...
WHOA!!! That font is not on that machine... G



Yes, that could be an issue, but they don't even have to be two
different Windows versions. Two computers running the same version of
Windows can have different fonts installed.

But I have only one computer, so I have no issue like that. My wife
has her own computer, and it doesn't have all the fonts mine does, but
I very rarely give her a document from my computer, and if I do, it's
highly unlikely to have any fonts other than Times New Roman and
Arial. And ditto if she sends me a document.




But, I think this has more to do with how one uses their computer than
whether a general recommendation can be made regarding such things.
Being that these are "personal computers", one can do with them as they
wish.


Exactly. I use different computers and OSes depending on what I need to
accomplish.



Understood. But I don't, and that's why what's important to you isn't
to me.


When I want to send this file to someone, it goes as a PDF with the
fonts embedded. That way it doesn't matter what software is installed
on the recipient's computer, it will look just as I intended it to look.



Same here, but doing that is very rare for me.
  #20  
Old February 25th 17, 08:32 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10
David E. Ross[_2_]
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On 2/25/2017 11:16 AM, Mayayana wrote:
"Ken Springer" wrote

| So, you're in your favorite word processor, and you want to select a
| different font. Do you want to scroll through 50 fonts or 150 fonts,
| when you know you'll never use 100 of those fonts since you don't
| need/use Cyrillic or Asian fonts? Personally, I get tired of having to
| deal with the fonts I'll never use.
|
I feel the same way. I like to collect interesting fonts.
There's no room for debris. When I do something like
create a birthday card for a friend I want only a good
selection of "atmosphere" fonts to choose from.
(Wedding invitation, brush calligraphy, art nouveau, and
various other styles.)

I have a backup folder of Win7 fonts -- 327 MB. I've got
another 40 MB of interesting style fonts. I'll add any style
font that looks good, but have no reason to keep other
fonts.



Although most of the applications on my PC are freeware, I actually
bought High-Logic's Main Type font manager. It allows me to disable or
enable fonts. Disabled fonts do not appear in the font list used by
Word, Excel, etc. It also allows me to delete or export fonts.

I have 445 enabled fonts and 515 disabled fonts. Many of the disabled
fonts are earlier versions of the enabled fonts. Those duplicates I am
gradually deleting from my PC, but I do that very carefully to ensure
that (1) the duplicate is indeed an earlier version and (2) I am not
deleting a font with broad embedding while keeping a font with limited
embedding.

--
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

Paraphrasing Mark Twain, who was quoting someone else:
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and
alternative truths.
  #21  
Old February 25th 17, 09:33 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Neil
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On 2/25/2017 1:52 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 2/25/17 7:54 AM, Neil wrote:
On 2/23/2017 5:46 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"Neil" wrote

| I'm only going to remove fonts not based on roman/Latin/western
| characters. Neither do I plan on removing any dingbat/graphic
fonts.
| Since I don't read, write, or speak any Asian language, I do not
need
| those fonts. Same for Cyrillic.
|
| You may not use them when you create documents, but if you wind up
on a
| website that uses them, you're going to see a mess. Only the commonly
| used fonts in other languages are supplied with the OS.
|
I don't have any such fonts and it's not a problem.
If I'm at a Chinese site I'll see little rectangles with
hex codes defining unicode characters that can't be
displayed. So I can't read the text. But I can't read
Chinese, anyway. It's all Greek to me. I can't
imagine why I'd want or need a Chinese font. The little
boxes tell me what I need to know: This webpage will
be of no use to me.


I still find it informative whether I wind up on a site with Kanji,
Cyrillic, or other lettering, even if I don't understand the language.
It at least tells me who their primary audience is. Seeing squares with
hex codes is not useful at all.

In the days when a "large" HD was 20GB, font management was more of a
concern than it is today. I can't really see any good reason to delete
the default fonts on a computer.


So, you're in your favorite word processor, and you want to select a
different font. Do you want to scroll through 50 fonts or 150 fonts,
when you know you'll never use 100 of those fonts since you don't
need/use Cyrillic or Asian fonts? Personally, I get tired of having to
deal with the fonts I'll never use.

Then there's consistency for your own docs. You have two computers, one
is Windows 7, the other is Windows 10. You use a font in the doc you
created in Windows 7. Then you take the doc to Windows 10 and...
WHOA!!! That font is not on that machine... G Yes, you could embed
the fonts (I do when that is an option), but what if the program you
used does not offer font embedding, or you just forgot to do it?

Or... You use the font FloppyShoes in your file on Windows 7, and go to
Windows 10 which also has the font FloppyShoes. But the font files used
are not identical, and on Windows 10 things look just a little bit off.

There are other ways to solve these issues, and the way you've chosen
presumes a few things about fonts that may not be so. I mostly use
professional fonts, because I'm more concerned with how my documents
look when they've been offset printed abroad and I can't worry about OS
issues. It requires that I avoid most of the system fonts, which is not
a big deal. But, again, I'm not suggesting that you do anything
different than whatever it is you wish to do on your computer.

But, I think this has more to do with how one uses their computer than
whether a general recommendation can be made regarding such things.
Being that these are "personal computers", one can do with them as they
wish.


Exactly. I use different computers and OSes depending on what I need to
accomplish. Occasionally, using more than one for the same project. So
I want to know that whatever font I use on System A will be there on
System C if I use System C for that project.

When I want to send this file to someone, it goes as a PDF with the
fonts embedded. That way it doesn't matter what software is installed
on the recipient's computer, it will look just as I intended it to look.

On a certain level that usually works. But I wouldn't trust it blindly.
BTDT.

--
best regards,

Neil
  #22  
Old February 25th 17, 09:37 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Neil
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On 2/25/2017 2:32 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 2/25/2017 11:16 AM, Mayayana wrote:
"Ken Springer" wrote

| So, you're in your favorite word processor, and you want to select a
| different font. Do you want to scroll through 50 fonts or 150 fonts,
| when you know you'll never use 100 of those fonts since you don't
| need/use Cyrillic or Asian fonts? Personally, I get tired of having to
| deal with the fonts I'll never use.
|
I feel the same way. I like to collect interesting fonts.
There's no room for debris. When I do something like
create a birthday card for a friend I want only a good
selection of "atmosphere" fonts to choose from.
(Wedding invitation, brush calligraphy, art nouveau, and
various other styles.)

I have a backup folder of Win7 fonts -- 327 MB. I've got
another 40 MB of interesting style fonts. I'll add any style
font that looks good, but have no reason to keep other
fonts.



Although most of the applications on my PC are freeware, I actually
bought High-Logic's Main Type font manager. It allows me to disable or
enable fonts. Disabled fonts do not appear in the font list used by
Word, Excel, etc. It also allows me to delete or export fonts.

I have 445 enabled fonts and 515 disabled fonts. Many of the disabled
fonts are earlier versions of the enabled fonts. Those duplicates I am
gradually deleting from my PC, but I do that very carefully to ensure
that (1) the duplicate is indeed an earlier version and (2) I am not
deleting a font with broad embedding while keeping a font with limited
embedding.

This is a much more reliable approach if you have to distribute your
documents for printing elsewhere.

If one is creating many documents that will have the same general
appearance, it's also possible to create templates with styles that use
those fonts as well as typographic specifications. This can save a lot
of time when working with clients' corporate styles.

--
best regards,

Neil
  #23  
Old February 25th 17, 11:24 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 2/25/17 1:37 PM, Neil wrote:
On 2/25/2017 2:32 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 2/25/2017 11:16 AM, Mayayana wrote:
"Ken Springer" wrote

| So, you're in your favorite word processor, and you want to select a
| different font. Do you want to scroll through 50 fonts or 150 fonts,
| when you know you'll never use 100 of those fonts since you don't
| need/use Cyrillic or Asian fonts? Personally, I get tired of having to
| deal with the fonts I'll never use.
|
I feel the same way. I like to collect interesting fonts.
There's no room for debris. When I do something like
create a birthday card for a friend I want only a good
selection of "atmosphere" fonts to choose from.
(Wedding invitation, brush calligraphy, art nouveau, and
various other styles.)

I have a backup folder of Win7 fonts -- 327 MB. I've got
another 40 MB of interesting style fonts. I'll add any style
font that looks good, but have no reason to keep other
fonts.



Although most of the applications on my PC are freeware, I actually
bought High-Logic's Main Type font manager. It allows me to disable or
enable fonts. Disabled fonts do not appear in the font list used by
Word, Excel, etc. It also allows me to delete or export fonts.

I have 445 enabled fonts and 515 disabled fonts. Many of the disabled
fonts are earlier versions of the enabled fonts. Those duplicates I am
gradually deleting from my PC, but I do that very carefully to ensure
that (1) the duplicate is indeed an earlier version and (2) I am not
deleting a font with broad embedding while keeping a font with limited
embedding.

This is a much more reliable approach if you have to distribute your
documents for printing elsewhere.

If one is creating many documents that will have the same general
appearance, it's also possible to create templates with styles that use
those fonts as well as typographic specifications. This can save a lot
of time when working with clients' corporate styles.


Not using templates and styles is one of my pet peeves with a lot of
people who say they know how to use a computer.

But unless you embed the fonts in document, templates won't solve the
entire problem. And as I think I mentioned, not all software embeds
fonts. I read a long time ago, if you use a
purchased/copyrighted/proprietary font, embedding may be illegal.



--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 51.0.1 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 45.7.1
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #24  
Old February 25th 17, 11:45 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 2/25/17 12:25 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 11:52:05 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:


snip

But WordPerfect (my favorite word processor) keeps the fonts I most
commonly used at the top of the list, so very rarely do I have to
scroll at all. I also checked in Microsoft Word 2016, which I have
installed but very rarely use; it does the same thing.


Are you sure the list is the fonts you often use, or just the fonts used
with that document or in that session of WordPerfect or Word? I know
I've sometimes opened a new Word document and wished a particular font
was at the top, but the top is devoid of any font previously used.

snip

I don't know word processor you use, but if it's WordPerfect or Word,
dealing with many fonts is very easy.


At the moment, it depends on the project. A project for me, when in
Windows 7, is Softmaker Office 2016 or Page Plus. If it's for the
computer shop I work at part time, regardless of system, it's Libre
Office or Scribus. All the other systems are Libre Office or Scribus.


Then there's consistency for your own docs. You have two computers, one
is Windows 7, the other is Windows 10. You use a font in the doc you
created in Windows 7. Then you take the doc to Windows 10 and...
WHOA!!! That font is not on that machine... G



Yes, that could be an issue, but they don't even have to be two
different Windows versions. Two computers running the same version of
Windows can have different fonts installed.


I've never noticed this for the fonts installed by the OS, but other
software sometimes adds fonts.

But I have only one computer, so I have no issue like that. My wife
has her own computer, and it doesn't have all the fonts mine does, but
I very rarely give her a document from my computer, and if I do, it's
highly unlikely to have any fonts other than Times New Roman and
Arial. And ditto if she sends me a document.


I long ago ditched using Times New Roman. I would get lengthy docs from
places I found hard to read. Then, while delving into typography, I
read that the design of Times New Roman was such that in "normal" font
sizes, the design of the font can be tiring on your eyes. The articles
said there are a lot of better alternatives.

Personally, I like the Linux Libertine fonts, they are complete with the
ligatures, etc., and available in both True Type and Open Type fonts.

snip


--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 51.0.1 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 45.7.1
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #25  
Old February 26th 17, 12:14 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 2/25/17 1:33 PM, Neil wrote:
On 2/25/2017 1:52 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 2/25/17 7:54 AM, Neil wrote:
On 2/23/2017 5:46 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"Neil" wrote

| I'm only going to remove fonts not based on roman/Latin/western
| characters. Neither do I plan on removing any dingbat/graphic
fonts.
| Since I don't read, write, or speak any Asian language, I do not
need
| those fonts. Same for Cyrillic.
|
| You may not use them when you create documents, but if you wind up
on a
| website that uses them, you're going to see a mess. Only the commonly
| used fonts in other languages are supplied with the OS.
|
I don't have any such fonts and it's not a problem.
If I'm at a Chinese site I'll see little rectangles with
hex codes defining unicode characters that can't be
displayed. So I can't read the text. But I can't read
Chinese, anyway. It's all Greek to me. I can't
imagine why I'd want or need a Chinese font. The little
boxes tell me what I need to know: This webpage will
be of no use to me.


I still find it informative whether I wind up on a site with Kanji,
Cyrillic, or other lettering, even if I don't understand the language.
It at least tells me who their primary audience is. Seeing squares with
hex codes is not useful at all.

In the days when a "large" HD was 20GB, font management was more of a
concern than it is today. I can't really see any good reason to delete
the default fonts on a computer.


So, you're in your favorite word processor, and you want to select a
different font. Do you want to scroll through 50 fonts or 150 fonts,
when you know you'll never use 100 of those fonts since you don't
need/use Cyrillic or Asian fonts? Personally, I get tired of having to
deal with the fonts I'll never use.

Then there's consistency for your own docs. You have two computers, one
is Windows 7, the other is Windows 10. You use a font in the doc you
created in Windows 7. Then you take the doc to Windows 10 and...
WHOA!!! That font is not on that machine... G Yes, you could embed
the fonts (I do when that is an option), but what if the program you
used does not offer font embedding, or you just forgot to do it?

Or... You use the font FloppyShoes in your file on Windows 7, and go to
Windows 10 which also has the font FloppyShoes. But the font files used
are not identical, and on Windows 10 things look just a little bit off.

There are other ways to solve these issues, and the way you've chosen
presumes a few things about fonts that may not be so. I mostly use
professional fonts, because I'm more concerned with how my documents
look when they've been offset printed abroad and I can't worry about OS
issues. It requires that I avoid most of the system fonts, which is not
a big deal. But, again, I'm not suggesting that you do anything
different than whatever it is you wish to do on your computer.


I don't have a reason for professional fonts anymore, but I do own a
disk of Bitstream fonts from years ago. But I do need to have things
match across my computers, and the Linux Libertine fonts I mentioned to
Ken Blake on the work computers.

But, I think this has more to do with how one uses their computer than
whether a general recommendation can be made regarding such things.
Being that these are "personal computers", one can do with them as they
wish.


Exactly. I use different computers and OSes depending on what I need to
accomplish. Occasionally, using more than one for the same project. So
I want to know that whatever font I use on System A will be there on
System C if I use System C for that project.

When I want to send this file to someone, it goes as a PDF with the
fonts embedded. That way it doesn't matter what software is installed
on the recipient's computer, it will look just as I intended it to look.

On a certain level that usually works. But I wouldn't trust it blindly.
BTDT.


But it's the best the average person can do at the moment, AFAIK.



--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 51.0.1 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 45.7.1
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #26  
Old February 26th 17, 03:02 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Neil
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On 2/25/2017 5:24 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 2/25/17 1:37 PM, Neil wrote:
On 2/25/2017 2:32 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 2/25/2017 11:16 AM, Mayayana wrote:
"Ken Springer" wrote

| So, you're in your favorite word processor, and you want to select a
| different font. Do you want to scroll through 50 fonts or 150 fonts,
| when you know you'll never use 100 of those fonts since you don't
| need/use Cyrillic or Asian fonts? Personally, I get tired of
having to
| deal with the fonts I'll never use.
|
I feel the same way. I like to collect interesting fonts.
There's no room for debris. When I do something like
create a birthday card for a friend I want only a good
selection of "atmosphere" fonts to choose from.
(Wedding invitation, brush calligraphy, art nouveau, and
various other styles.)

I have a backup folder of Win7 fonts -- 327 MB. I've got
another 40 MB of interesting style fonts. I'll add any style
font that looks good, but have no reason to keep other
fonts.



Although most of the applications on my PC are freeware, I actually
bought High-Logic's Main Type font manager. It allows me to disable or
enable fonts. Disabled fonts do not appear in the font list used by
Word, Excel, etc. It also allows me to delete or export fonts.

I have 445 enabled fonts and 515 disabled fonts. Many of the disabled
fonts are earlier versions of the enabled fonts. Those duplicates I am
gradually deleting from my PC, but I do that very carefully to ensure
that (1) the duplicate is indeed an earlier version and (2) I am not
deleting a font with broad embedding while keeping a font with limited
embedding.

This is a much more reliable approach if you have to distribute your
documents for printing elsewhere.

If one is creating many documents that will have the same general
appearance, it's also possible to create templates with styles that use
those fonts as well as typographic specifications. This can save a lot
of time when working with clients' corporate styles.


Not using templates and styles is one of my pet peeves with a lot of
people who say they know how to use a computer.

But unless you embed the fonts in document, templates won't solve the
entire problem. And as I think I mentioned, not all software embeds
fonts. I read a long time ago, if you use a
purchased/copyrighted/proprietary font, embedding may be illegal.

Those are separate issues. Templates don't make documents portable, they
make it easier to manage font usage in-house. In the case of corporate
styles, the clients are already using the same fonts, so that becomes a
non-issue. Worked well for me for over three decades.

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Neil
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Old February 26th 17, 03:57 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Default Synchronizing fonts

On 2/25/17 7:02 PM, Neil wrote:
On 2/25/2017 5:24 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 2/25/17 1:37 PM, Neil wrote:
On 2/25/2017 2:32 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 2/25/2017 11:16 AM, Mayayana wrote:
"Ken Springer" wrote

| So, you're in your favorite word processor, and you want to select a
| different font. Do you want to scroll through 50 fonts or 150 fonts,
| when you know you'll never use 100 of those fonts since you don't
| need/use Cyrillic or Asian fonts? Personally, I get tired of
having to
| deal with the fonts I'll never use.
|
I feel the same way. I like to collect interesting fonts.
There's no room for debris. When I do something like
create a birthday card for a friend I want only a good
selection of "atmosphere" fonts to choose from.
(Wedding invitation, brush calligraphy, art nouveau, and
various other styles.)

I have a backup folder of Win7 fonts -- 327 MB. I've got
another 40 MB of interesting style fonts. I'll add any style
font that looks good, but have no reason to keep other
fonts.



Although most of the applications on my PC are freeware, I actually
bought High-Logic's Main Type font manager. It allows me to disable or
enable fonts. Disabled fonts do not appear in the font list used by
Word, Excel, etc. It also allows me to delete or export fonts.

I have 445 enabled fonts and 515 disabled fonts. Many of the disabled
fonts are earlier versions of the enabled fonts. Those duplicates I am
gradually deleting from my PC, but I do that very carefully to ensure
that (1) the duplicate is indeed an earlier version and (2) I am not
deleting a font with broad embedding while keeping a font with limited
embedding.

This is a much more reliable approach if you have to distribute your
documents for printing elsewhere.

If one is creating many documents that will have the same general
appearance, it's also possible to create templates with styles that use
those fonts as well as typographic specifications. This can save a lot
of time when working with clients' corporate styles.


Not using templates and styles is one of my pet peeves with a lot of
people who say they know how to use a computer.

But unless you embed the fonts in document, templates won't solve the
entire problem. And as I think I mentioned, not all software embeds
fonts. I read a long time ago, if you use a
purchased/copyrighted/proprietary font, embedding may be illegal.

Those are separate issues. Templates don't make documents portable, they
make it easier to manage font usage in-house. In the case of corporate
styles, the clients are already using the same fonts, so that becomes a
non-issue. Worked well for me for over three decades.


Or even in a small PC repair shop such as where I work.


--
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Old February 26th 17, 04:43 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_5_]
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Default Synchronizing fonts

On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 15:45:50 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

On 2/25/17 12:25 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 11:52:05 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:


snip

But WordPerfect (my favorite word processor) keeps the fonts I most
commonly used at the top of the list, so very rarely do I have to
scroll at all. I also checked in Microsoft Word 2016, which I have
installed but very rarely use; it does the same thing.


Are you sure the list is the fonts you often use, or just the fonts used
with that document or in that session of WordPerfect or Word?



I'm not sure, but it hardly matters. What I probably want is there.
 




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