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  #1  
Old May 10th 17, 08:19 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Andy
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Default Windows Update Site down

Has any one noticed that since about sunday 5/7/2017 the
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
Web site is totaly down no link no any thing .
Thanks



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  #2  
Old May 10th 17, 08:45 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Windows Update Site down

Andy wrote:

Has any one noticed that since about sunday 5/7/2017 the
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
Web site is totaly down no link no any thing .


See replies to your same multi-posted message in the Win7 newsgroup.
  #3  
Old May 10th 17, 06:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
philo
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Default Windows Update Site down

On 05/10/2017 02:19 AM, Andy wrote:
Has any one noticed that since about sunday 5/7/2017 the
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
Web site is totaly down no link no any thing .
Thanks



it is not down
  #4  
Old May 10th 17, 07:14 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul[_32_]
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Default Windows Update Site down

philo wrote:
On 05/10/2017 02:19 AM, Andy wrote:
Has any one noticed that since about sunday 5/7/2017 the
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
Web site is totaly down no link no any thing .
Thanks



it is not down


An attempt to reach that site with IE6 in WinXP
yields "Cannot find server".

However, if you try the same thing in Firefox, the server
switches to https and a redirect happens. Maybe not what's
desired, but the behavior is indicative.

I would say the server switches to https, and IE6 cannot
handle the certificate issues.

So if the OS this is being tested on is WinXP, you'll probably
have to switch to at least IE8 and re-test.

Windows Update only works through Internet Explorer, so it's
up to a user to do whatever is necessary to make IE work again.

Paul
  #5  
Old May 10th 17, 10:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
philo
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Default Windows Update Site down

On 05/10/2017 01:14 PM, Paul wrote:
philo wrote:
On 05/10/2017 02:19 AM, Andy wrote:
Has any one noticed that since about sunday 5/7/2017 the
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
Web site is totaly down no link no any thing .
Thanks



it is not down


An attempt to reach that site with IE6 in WinXP
yields "Cannot find server".

However, if you try the same thing in Firefox, the server
switches to https and a redirect happens. Maybe not what's
desired, but the behavior is indicative.

I would say the server switches to https, and IE6 cannot
handle the certificate issues.

So if the OS this is being tested on is WinXP, you'll probably
have to switch to at least IE8 and re-test.

Windows Update only works through Internet Explorer, so it's
up to a user to do whatever is necessary to make IE work again.

Paul




But he said it was as of just a few days ago, so he probably has some
other problem.

BTW: A good work-around is Brave Browser, should be recognized as IE
  #6  
Old May 10th 17, 11:22 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul[_32_]
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Default Windows Update Site down

philo wrote:
On 05/10/2017 01:14 PM, Paul wrote:
philo wrote:
On 05/10/2017 02:19 AM, Andy wrote:
Has any one noticed that since about sunday 5/7/2017 the
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
Web site is totaly down no link no any thing .
Thanks



it is not down


An attempt to reach that site with IE6 in WinXP
yields "Cannot find server".

However, if you try the same thing in Firefox, the server
switches to https and a redirect happens. Maybe not what's
desired, but the behavior is indicative.

I would say the server switches to https, and IE6 cannot
handle the certificate issues.

So if the OS this is being tested on is WinXP, you'll probably
have to switch to at least IE8 and re-test.

Windows Update only works through Internet Explorer, so it's
up to a user to do whatever is necessary to make IE work again.

Paul




But he said it was as of just a few days ago, so he probably has some
other problem.

BTW: A good work-around is Brave Browser, should be recognized as IE


Does it run ActiveX ?

Windows Update uses ActiveX plugins. That's why it's pretty
much the only solution. And going from IE6 to IE8 is
about the best you can do.

Paul
  #7  
Old May 11th 17, 01:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul in Houston TX[_2_]
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Default Windows Update Site down

Andy wrote:
Has any one noticed that since about sunday 5/7/2017 the
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
Web site is totaly down no link no any thing .
Thanks


The OWA (Outlook Web Access) was down all day today.
Had to use the Exchange server... at 1 bps cell modem speed.
It started working around 7PM CDT.

  #8  
Old May 11th 17, 02:26 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Stan Brown
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Default Windows Update Site down

On Wed, 10 May 2017 03:19:15 -0400, Andy wrote:

Has any one noticed that since about sunday 5/7/2017 the
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
Web site is totaly down no link no any thing .
Thanks


Please don't multipost.

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  #9  
Old May 11th 17, 07:27 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Andy
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Default Windows Update Site down

You are right it does redirect to the windows update FAQ pages and first
thing in youre face is winows 10 how to get it
Looks like microsoft has pulled the update site down to force XP users to
upgrade as if the machine needs a rebuild unless you have all the updates
saved you are out of luck.


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philo wrote:
On 05/10/2017 02:19 AM, Andy wrote:
Has any one noticed that since about sunday 5/7/2017 the
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
Web site is totaly down no link no any thing .
Thanks



it is not down


An attempt to reach that site with IE6 in WinXP
yields "Cannot find server".

However, if you try the same thing in Firefox, the server
switches to https and a redirect happens. Maybe not what's
desired, but the behavior is indicative.

I would say the server switches to https, and IE6 cannot
handle the certificate issues.

So if the OS this is being tested on is WinXP, you'll probably
have to switch to at least IE8 and re-test.

Windows Update only works through Internet Explorer, so it's
up to a user to do whatever is necessary to make IE work again.

Paul



  #10  
Old May 11th 17, 11:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul[_32_]
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Default Windows Update Site down

Andy wrote:
You are right it does redirect to the windows update FAQ pages and first
thing in youre face is winows 10 how to get it
Looks like microsoft has pulled the update site down to force XP users to
upgrade as if the machine needs a rebuild unless you have all the updates
saved you are out of luck.


On your WinXP computer, install IE8, then re-test
the Windows Update (IE-based) updater.

IE8 should have better support for https and Certificates.
Even if the practice today is to use SHA2 (SHA256) for
certificates instead of SHA1. WinXP may not have SHA2
in its crypto repertoire (not sure). Web site owners
are supposed to use some sort of fallback scheme, so
that older gear can continue to work. That's why I
recommend testing with IE8, before throwing your
hands in the air, in disgust.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/sha-1-de...r-left-behind/

"Windows XP older than Service Pack 3, for instance, has no SHA-2 support."

That's good news...

There is a picture of IE6 on that page, failing to
connect with https.

*******

A sample of an IE8 download (for english ENU). Other
language downloads are available.

https://download.microsoft.com/downl...XP-x86-ENU.exe

Because those use https, you cannot use IE6 to download IE8.
Use Firefox instead, to download IE8.

(List of URLs for where to get IE8 on the Microsoft site...)
https://github.com/Explorer09/Ex-pit...rect-links.txt

While the download "IE8-WindowsXP-x86-ENU.exe"
may appear to be big enough to be a "stand-alone"
installer, the later versions of Internet Explorer
patch the OS for DirectX support, as the later browsers
use graphics acceleration.

What's annoying about any patching, is the interface on
the installer, doesn't tell you what it's doing. The
obnoxious behavior might only take 3 minutes... or
it can take an hour. And for that hour, it doesn't
tell you what it is downloading and installing either.

Once IE8 is installed from such a link as above,
you *still* need to install the latest "Cumulative
Update for IE8", which will be another 16MB download.
If WinXP IE8 is patched up to date, that doesn't
mean there aren't exploits for it. Microsoft stopped
fixing it at some point. IE8 should not be used
for general-purpose surfing, and should only
be used for Windows Update support. It's getting
harder to find a browser with WinXP support.
Firefox 52.02 or so, is the last WinXP browser
from them. This would be an example of an English
version of Firefox, of that (end-of-WinXP-era) release.
Vista is being cut off at the same time as WinXP,
which tells you there is no technical reason for
putting WinXP in the software ghetto like this.
Tech reason: Developer = lazy.

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/fire...p%2052.0.2.exe

Paul
  #11  
Old May 11th 17, 11:57 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Andy Burns[_6_]
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Default Windows Update Site down

Paul wrote:

WinXP may not have SHA2 in its crypto repertoire (not sure).


There is a hotfix for Win2K3 SP1 to enable SHA2, so I presume an
equivalent exists for XP, given the shared codebase.
  #12  
Old May 12th 17, 03:12 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
philo
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Default Windows Update Site down

On 05/10/2017 05:22 PM, Paul wrote:
philo wrote:
On 05/10/2017 01:14 PM, Paul wrote:
philo wrote:
On 05/10/2017 02:19 AM, Andy wrote:
Has any one noticed that since about sunday 5/7/2017 the
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
Web site is totaly down no link no any thing .
Thanks



it is not down

An attempt to reach that site with IE6 in WinXP
yields "Cannot find server".

However, if you try the same thing in Firefox, the server
switches to https and a redirect happens. Maybe not what's
desired, but the behavior is indicative.

I would say the server switches to https, and IE6 cannot
handle the certificate issues.

So if the OS this is being tested on is WinXP, you'll probably
have to switch to at least IE8 and re-test.

Windows Update only works through Internet Explorer, so it's
up to a user to do whatever is necessary to make IE work again.

Paul




But he said it was as of just a few days ago, so he probably has some
other problem.

BTW: A good work-around is Brave Browser, should be recognized as IE


Does it run ActiveX ?

Windows Update uses ActiveX plugins. That's why it's pretty
much the only solution. And going from IE6 to IE8 is
about the best you can do.

Paul




I don't know what Brave Browser uses but from my Linux machine I was
able to get to those sites that were accessible only from IE
 




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