Update your software now!

On 18/06/2019 23:34, Paul wrote:
David B. wrote:
On 18/06/2019 19:03, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 19:02:13
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.generalÂ* the following:
On 17/06/2019 18:41, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 10:30:43
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.generalÂ* the following:
On 17/06/2019 02:35, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:58:15
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.generalÂ* the following:

An updated O/s probably wouldn't run on my computer -- not enough
resources. People are using Windows XP because they aren't rich
enough
to buy a new computer every few months.

IIRC, I started using Windows XP when it was first introduced in
2002 -
it really is 'old hat' now! If you drove a motor vehicle of that
age you
might well expect it to suffer more breakdowns than a new or
nearly new car!

Â*Â*Â* What is in a Operating System comparable to the mechanical items
in an automobile, which can wear out?

Will 'vulnerabilities' suffice?

Â*Â*Â* No.

Â*Â*Â* You were saying that an OS wears as it runs, and eventually fails
due to something wearing out.

Well, FWIW, there's something not quite right about this:-

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/8...3427/detection


Â*Â*Â* And in twenty five words or less, could you explain what that is
when it is at home?

It's a scan by Virus Total of the website I saw mentioned in your
message header.

It's a scan by an uneven collection of tools.

Â*Â* CRDFÂ* Malicious

Who exactly is "CRDF" ???

The participants in that page, are rather a rag-tag lot.

It does seem like that!

Do you trust the operation/organization?

Perhaps for CRDF, their detection code goes something like
this.

Â*Â* BEGIN
Â*Â*Â*Â* if ("www.") then printf("Malicious\n");
Â*Â* END

Which is a good zeroth order approximation.

And, the code is easy to maintain.

(This is a bit of an inside joke, because at work, we had
Â*a guy who would say "I could code that up in three lines",
Â*so for joke-purposes, you had to make sure joke-code had
Â*exactly three lines.)

Â*Â* Paul

Thanks for your comments, Paul.

Have you been retired for as long as me?!!

--
David B.
Devon, UK

On 19/06/2019 13:32, Christine Grist wrote:
On 19/06/2019 12:43, Shadow wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 21:38:18 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

*** And in twenty five words or less, could you explain what that is
when it is at home?

It's a scan by Virus Total of the website I saw mentioned in your
message header.

To clarify:* From:

******* Viz:* www.mindspring.com

****So earthlink is tagged by your software.

****Not a good look for it.

****Expect personal questions soon (where you live, name of
business/employee record, name of spouse etc). Really weird in an OS
group, but it's what he does.

You are a liar, Shadow.

Indeed he is. I have never called anyone I've met on Usenet at their
place of work (or at their home unless it has been requested/approved by
email messages beforehand).

I'm quite open and honest about who I am and what I do - not so Mr Shadow!

****He claims this webpage contains malware (he used VT to scan
the SERVER and it got one hit - no, he hasn't mastered the intricacies
of false positives yet)

http://www.tekrider.net*** ----- Used for malicious purposes

Proof here that Tekrider is a master of stalking his prey:-

https://web.archive.org/web/20100409...et/pcbutts.php

This image tells a different story* https://i.imgur.com/yMfGx0v.png

****I've been through the source. Can't find any malware .....
maybe I'm using the wrong tools?
****[]'s

Yes - you didn't look carefully enough: https://i.imgur.com/aBgpvlO.png

This is the script found on the website

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/7...8018/detection

--
David B.
Devon, UK

David/Christine is talking to himself:

On 19/06/2019 13:32, Christine Grist wrote:
Proof here that Tekrider is a master of stalking his prey:-

https://web.archive.org/web/20100409...net:80/usenet/
pcbutts.php

That page came about because YOU actually thought he was a girl! Oh, and
he is a *bad guy* that YOU supported. It's mindboggling how stupid you
really are.

Yes - you didn't look carefully enough: https://i.imgur.com/aBgpvlO.png

This is the script found on the website

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/
url/7050025e9e034c49df926dc946708a76249b80bf18b77d7915 a3716d513d8018/
detection

More proof you don't know ****e. That scan has nothing whatsoever to do
with my web site. Your constant - years-long - rambling about it only
serves to show you are nothing more than a scumbag stalker.

This page *is* mine:
http://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php

--
-bts

On 14/06/2019 17:49, David B. wrote:
June 13, 2019
by Ari Lazarus
Consumer Education Specialist, FTC

https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/blog/20...r-software-now

We secure our valuables – our wallets, keys, and homes. We know that, if
left unsecured, they can easily be a target for criminals. So it makes
sense to think the same way about the information stored on all our
devices.

Computers, tablets, phones and other personal devices hold your emails
and your financial and tax documents (with your Social Security
numbers). Criminals who get access to this valuable information can
commit identity theft, put harmful software on your devices, or both.

What’s one easy way to help protect all of this sensitive information?
Update your software regularly, and as soon as possible when a newer
version comes out. What’s an even easier way? Set the updates to happen
automatically. Don’t ignore reminders to update. Criminals look to
exploit vulnerabilities before the software companies can fix it.
Delaying gives hackers time to access your information – even when a
patch is out there to lock them out.

So what software should you be updating?
[....]

*Update Firefox now*! Zero-day found in the wild

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/201...nd-in-the-wild

--
David B.
Devon, UK

David B. wrote:


*Update Firefox now*! Zero-day found in the wild

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/201...nd-in-the-wild

The CVE has no text in it yet.

A sure sign of "qvality".

To make it more scary, why didn't they jump out
and say "boo" loudly.

You'd swear the ex-employees who maintained the MSFT KB
worked there or something (where the text for a KB was
always a day late and a dollar short).

What I wanted to see, was a "range of release numbers",
because if you look at early enough versions of Firefox,
they're not affected.

Paul

On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 18:13:26 -0400, Paul
wrote:

David B. wrote:


*Update Firefox now*! Zero-day found in the wild

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/201...nd-in-the-wild

The CVE has no text in it yet.

https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2019-11707

Can't read it. Site "needs" javascript.
Which is ironic ....

A sure sign of "qvality".

To make it more scary, why didn't they jump out
and say "boo" loudly.

You'd swear the ex-employees who maintained the MSFT KB
worked there or something (where the text for a KB was
always a day late and a dollar short).

What I wanted to see, was a "range of release numbers",
because if you look at early enough versions of Firefox,
they're not affected.

You're right. My Firefox clone is not affected.
The vulnerability must have been introduced by an "automatic
update".
Beware automatic updates.

[]'s
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We have a new policy - Google 2012

On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:03:09 +0100, "David B."
wrote:

How can I get the newest features of Firefox?

If you want to keep your Firefox up to date, with all the latest
features and updates, you'll need to upgrade your computer's operating
system.

Which is why I downgraded to an earlier, less bloated version of
Firefox, that runs faster. I really don't want all the latest features
and updates, which made it fun painfully slowly.


--
Steve Hayes
http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com

On 22/06/2019 05:45, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:03:09 +0100, "David B."
wrote:

How can I get the newest features of Firefox?

If you want to keep your Firefox up to date, with all the latest
features and updates, you'll need to upgrade your computer's operating
system.

Which is why I downgraded to an earlier, less bloated version of
Firefox, that runs faster. I really don't want all the latest features
and updates, which made it fun painfully slowly.

God gave us the freedom to choose! :-)

I've enjoyed reading about you https://khanya.wordpress.com/about-me/

I, too, read ALL the Biggles books when I was a boy! ;-)

//The choice to obey God unconditionally is a true existential
'either/or' decision faced by the individual. Either one chooses to live
in faith (the religious stage) or to live ethically (the ethical stage).
In Either/Or, Kierkegaard insists that the single individual has ethical
responsibility of his life.//

Have a wonderful day, Steve. :-)

--
David B.
Devon, UK

In message , Steve Hayes
writes:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:03:09 +0100, "David B."
wrote:

How can I get the newest features of Firefox?

If you want to keep your Firefox up to date, with all the latest
features and updates, you'll need to upgrade your computer's operating
system.

Which is why I downgraded to an earlier, less bloated version of
Firefox, that runs faster. I really don't want all the latest features
and updates, which made it fun painfully slowly.

Yes, slow fun is no fun (in software, anyway - some kinds of fun are
nicer slow!).

I agree, older versions run better, especially on older hardware.

Firefox 2 (.0.0.20, IIRR) - last that will run on '98. (I think Kernelex
will allow up to 3 or 4; I haven't tried.)
Around Firefox 28 - last before the Australis user interface.
Firefox 57 - last that will run the old sort of extensions.
Firefox 58 - last that will run on XP.
(I may have those last two the wrong way round.)
They're on version sixtysomething now.

I - even on W7 - run version 27. (Incidentally, the version of
DownloadHelper I have to run with that still seems to work with most
sites, including YouTube.) [I use Chrome for the sites that won't work
properly in F27.]
--
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Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that
may never be questioned.

In microsoft.public.windowsxp "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:
In message , Steve Hayes
writes:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:03:09 +0100, "David B."
wrote:

How can I get the newest features of Firefox?

If you want to keep your Firefox up to date, with all the latest
features and updates, you'll need to upgrade your computer's operating
system.

Which is why I downgraded to an earlier, less bloated version of
Firefox, that runs faster. I really don't want all the latest features
and updates, which made it fun painfully slowly.

Yes, slow fun is no fun (in software, anyway - some kinds of fun are
nicer slow!).

I agree, older versions run better, especially on older hardware.

Firefox 2 (.0.0.20, IIRR) - last that will run on '98. (I think Kernelex
will allow up to 3 or 4; I haven't tried.)
Around Firefox 28 - last before the Australis user interface.
Firefox 57 - last that will run the old sort of extensions.
Firefox 58 - last that will run on XP.
(I may have those last two the wrong way round.)
They're on version sixtysomething now.

I - even on W7 - run version 27. (Incidentally, the version of
DownloadHelper I have to run with that still seems to work with most
sites, including YouTube.) [I use Chrome for the sites that won't work
properly in F27.]

So, you guys don't care for security, privacy, etc.?
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writes:
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I - even on W7 - run version 27. (Incidentally, the version of
DownloadHelper I have to run with that still seems to work with most
sites, including YouTube.) [I use Chrome for the sites that won't work
properly in F27.]

So, you guys don't care for security, privacy, etc.?

We're less paranoid about them, certainly; but we also achieve them in
other ways, not relying entirely on the browser for them.
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"The wish of the lazy to allow unsupervised access [to the internet] to their
children should not reduce all adults browsing to the level of suitability for a
five-year-old." Yaman Akdeniz, quoted in Inter//face (The Times, 1999-2-10): p12

On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 14:04:28 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Steve Hayes
writes:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:03:09 +0100, "David B."
wrote:

How can I get the newest features of Firefox?

If you want to keep your Firefox up to date, with all the latest
features and updates, you'll need to upgrade your computer's operating
system.

Which is why I downgraded to an earlier, less bloated version of
Firefox, that runs faster. I really don't want all the latest features
and updates, which made it fun painfully slowly.

Yes, slow fun is no fun (in software, anyway - some kinds of fun are
nicer slow!).

I agree, older versions run better, especially on older hardware.


It's all part of the planned obsolescense syndrome.

But in my experience the "latest features and updates" often give more
bells and whistles, but with fewer pistons and cylinders.


--
Steve Hayes
http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com

On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 11:08:49 -0500, NT (Ant) wrote:

In microsoft.public.windowsxp "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:
In message , Steve Hayes
writes:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:03:09 +0100, "David B."
wrote:

How can I get the newest features of Firefox?

If you want to keep your Firefox up to date, with all the latest
features and updates, you'll need to upgrade your computer's operating
system.

So there's nothing left to leak?

Which is why I downgraded to an earlier, less bloated version of
Firefox, that runs faster. I really don't want all the latest features
and updates, which made it fun painfully slowly.

Yes, slow fun is no fun (in software, anyway - some kinds of fun are
nicer slow!).

I agree, older versions run better, especially on older hardware.

Firefox 2 (.0.0.20, IIRR) - last that will run on '98. (I think Kernelex
will allow up to 3 or 4; I haven't tried.)
Around Firefox 28 - last before the Australis user interface.
Firefox 57 - last that will run the old sort of extensions.
Firefox 58 - last that will run on XP.
(I may have those last two the wrong way round.)
They're on version sixtysomething now.

I - even on W7 - run version 27. (Incidentally, the version of
DownloadHelper I have to run with that still seems to work with most
sites, including YouTube.) [I use Chrome for the sites that won't work
properly in F27.]

So, you guys don't care for security, privacy, etc.?

https://www.privateinternetaccess.co...rdening-guide/

We care. Anyone have a more recent trustworthy tutorial?
My Firefox running under Linux is sucking my userdata dry.
(My XP clone of Firefox is hardened - no worries there).
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We have a new policy - Google 2012

Steve Hayes wrote:
The Prince of Pompaddodle
lived behind a castle wall
behind a moat, behind a guard
of twenty soldiers tall.

Walt Kelly* died over 45 y ago, but his daughter Carolyn, who
contributed a great deal to the ongoing pub/s of the many Pogo books
before and after his death, died just 2 y ago. Another cartoonist/
animator/ blogger who had a 20 y relationship w/ Carolyn wrote an obit*.

In 2011, the 1st vol (to be a 12 vol set) of The Complete Syndicated
Comic Strips of Pogo from 1949-1973 was released. As of 2019, the vol/s
are up to 6. Fantagraphics Books pub.

https://www.newsfromme.com/2017/04/1...lyn-kelly-r-p/ Carolyn Kelly,
R.I.P.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Kelly

--
Mike Easter
mspubxpgen only
xposts deleted

On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 16:38:45 -0700, Mike Easter
wrote:

Steve Hayes wrote:
The Prince of Pompaddodle
lived behind a castle wall
behind a moat, behind a guard
of twenty soldiers tall.

Walt Kelly* died over 45 y ago, but his daughter Carolyn, who
contributed a great deal to the ongoing pub/s of the many Pogo books
before and after his death, died just 2 y ago. Another cartoonist/
animator/ blogger who had a 20 y relationship w/ Carolyn wrote an obit*.

In 2011, the 1st vol (to be a 12 vol set) of The Complete Syndicated
Comic Strips of Pogo from 1949-1973 was released. As of 2019, the vol/s
are up to 6. Fantagraphics Books pub.

https://www.newsfromme.com/2017/04/1...lyn-kelly-r-p/ Carolyn Kelly,
R.I.P.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Kelly

Thanks very much for that -- will follow it up.

[Follow-ups set]


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