TreeSize Free

On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 18:41:49 -0500, Cy Burnot wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote on 2/14/2015 5:37 PM:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 14:49:13 -0500, Paul wrote:

So the fact that the "KG" individual hasn't
responded, what does that tell you ? That there
wasn't a problem in the first place, and this
is a two thread "drive by".

Yes, it's a very rare event for someone to post here and then not reply
in the thread.

Especially if it's you. :-)

Well, I actually misspoke - I meant "it's a very rare event for someone
to *start a thread* here and then not reply in it".

In that case, it really is rare for me to do that - I very rarely start
a thread, so the opportunity is lacking.

So there! :-)

I could claim that the reason I rarely start a thread is that I never
need help, but nobody would believe that :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 14/02/2015 13:53, TPaye wrote:
"TreeSize Free tells you where precious disk space has gone.

The freeware can be started from the context menu of a folder or drive
and shows you the size of this folder, including its subfolders in an
Explorer-like fashion. Large folders can be identified at a glance
thanks to the gradient bar displayed in the background. All scan results
can be drilled down to file level and filters, e.g. for files of a
certain type, can be applied."

Portable http://www.jam-software.com/treesize_free/

WinDirStat is better, portable too.

http://windirstat.info/

Per Dex:
WinDirStat is better, portable too.

In another thread, somebody that sounded like they know recommended
TreeSize over WinDirStat.

I've used both, but can't figure out what TreeSize
has that WinDirStat does not.

Can anybody comment?
--
Pete Cresswell

In message , Stan Brown
writes:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 08:53:40 -0500, TPaye wrote:

"TreeSize Free tells you where precious disk space has gone.


Precious disk space? Seriously? The 1990s called: they want their
10 GB disk drives back.


Software (and the data it produces) grows to fill the space available -
_whatever_ that is. Ignoring this fact does you no favours. Apparently
there is some aspect of Windows 7 (and later) that is a real disc hog,
and there are dire warnings about what terrible things that may happen
to you if you try to control it.

My first PC had a 40 or 80 (can't remember, I think it was 80) MB - not
GB - disc, and that was large at the time; and before that, I had a 128K
RAM machine and before that a 48K (both with _no_ HD); I started
computing on a machine with 16 memory locations.

Granted, the falling cost of storage (and processing power) _does_ mean
that it's to some extent valid to say that debugging and adding features
should take priority over optimising code when programmer time is
limited; however, I rather feel that too much advantage is taken of
this. And when, as in the case of the W7 thing, it's part of an OS of
sufficient complexity that the average user is unlikely to be able to
(safely) prevent his disc being used up rapidly, IMO it's unforgivable,
since it means the user has no option but to buy a new system every few
years.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

After all is said and done, usually more is said.

In message , Gene E. Bloch
writes:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 18:41:49 -0500, Cy Burnot wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote on 2/14/2015 5:37 PM:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 14:49:13 -0500, Paul wrote:

So the fact that the "KG" individual hasn't
responded, what does that tell you ? That there
wasn't a problem in the first place, and this
is a two thread "drive by".

Is it actually the case that it is the developer of TreeSize who started
the second thread (this one)? Though it does seem a coincidence it
coming so hot on the heels of the "Something is eating my disc" one.

Yes, it's a very rare event for someone to post here and then not reply
in the thread.

Especially if it's you. :-)

Well, I actually misspoke - I meant "it's a very rare event for someone
to *start a thread* here and then not reply in it".

In that case, it really is rare for me to do that - I very rarely start
a thread, so the opportunity is lacking.

Me neither.

So there! :-)

I could claim that the reason I rarely start a thread is that I never
need help, but nobody would believe that :-)

Oh, you definitely need help (-:! [Sorry, couldn't resist! I know I do
too. They're coming to take me away, he hee, ha haa, ...]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

.... the closest thing the movies have ever got to a human special effect.
- Barry Norman on Arnold Schwarzenegger (RT 2014/9/27-10/3)

On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:48:35 +0000, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Apparently
there is some aspect of Windows 7 (and later) that is a real disc hog,


Probably you're referring to the Winsxs folder, where apparently
every update in the history of the world is stored. It looks worse
than it is, because a lot of the directory entries are junctions, but
it still takes up gigabytes.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

In message , Stan Brown
writes:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:48:35 +0000, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Apparently
there is some aspect of Windows 7 (and later) that is a real disc hog,


Probably you're referring to the Winsxs folder, where apparently
every update in the history of the world is stored. It looks worse
than it is, because a lot of the directory entries are junctions, but
it still takes up gigabytes.

Thanks, I was indeed. I know it's less bad than it looks, but as you
say, it still takes a LOT of space: plus, it's dangerous to mess with,
is the usual opinion.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"I am entitled to my own opinion."
"Yes, but it's your constant assumption that everyone else is also that's so
annoying." - Vila & Avon

On 15/02/2015 14:24, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Dex:
WinDirStat is better, portable too.

In another thread, somebody that sounded like they know recommended
TreeSize over WinDirStat.

I've used both, but can't figure out what TreeSize
has that WinDirStat does not.

Can anybody comment?


Shell integration for folders even in portable mode, not much use IMO if
you're looking for large files to free up space.

On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 13:05:00 -0500, Paul wrote:

I just had some fun with Everything from voidtools.com.

I used the Portable version.

http://www.voidtools.com/Everything-1.3.4.686.x64.zip

Unzip, and there is a single file inside, Everything.exe .

Go to Start, type in "cmd", when the top option
appears (to start a Command Promot window), right
click and select "Run as Administrator".

When the Command Prompt window opens, navigate
to where the Everything.exe portable version
is sitting.

cd \
cd C:\users\username\Downloads
dir Everything*

That will verify your executable is sitting there. It
should be listed.

Now for the fun part.

Everything -create-filelist output.efu "C:"

I had a bit of trouble getting the path syntax right
on the first try. At first, there was no output file,
and no diagnostic. But once I changed to C:, it worked.

It produced a 26MB output listing (text file), as
the "output.efu". It's a comma separated file. And
it created that file listing, in about 1 second!
The impressive part was the speed.

I popped that into the LibreOffice Spreadsheet program.
Highlighted the "size" column. Selected Data:Sort.
Clicked "extend selection" (so the size column is used
as the sort key for the entire width of the file.
Selected "Descending", so that the biggest file would
be at the top of the spreadsheet.

And then saved out as a .csv again.

Now I know that "install.esd" is the largest
file on my C: drive. Followed by pagefile (which
it looks like I manually set a bit smaller than usual).
My C: has no hiberfile, as hibernation is turned off
(powercfg -h off).

The "everything.exe" was able to list the contents of

C:\System Volume Information

which I consider to be the acid test for listing programs.
For example, the Microsoft "nfi.exe" utility, won't
list the contents of "C:\System Volume Information".



All very interesting, but I'm not sure why you didn't simply click on the
Size column header in Everything Search to ask it to sort the results by
size? Seems like that would have been faster and easier.

--

Char Jackson

On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:51:38 +0000, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Is it actually the case that it is the developer of TreeSize who started
the second thread (this one)? Though it does seem a coincidence it
coming so hot on the heels of the "Something is eating my disc" one.

The second thread was started by one of the responders in the first
thread, who recommended in that reply the same program that others
recommended in that thread...

I don't think it was a coincidence, I think he did it to make his
suggestion more visible.

I'm in no way ready to condemns TPaye.

BTW, I have in the past tried Tree Size Free, but my mileage varied. I
forget why I uninstalled it (it was a while back).

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 2/14/2015 12:02 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
TPaye wrote:

"TreeSize Free ...

Not an appropriate newsgroup for your freeware announcement. Your same
multi-posted message in the alt.comp.freeware newsgroup was the
appropriate place.


Well I went and had a browse in the Alt. Comp.Freeware NG..
I WON'T be going back.Bunch of Losers.


Regards, Rene

On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 08:53:40 -0500, TPaye


"TreeSize Free tells you where precious disk space has gone.

The freeware can be started from the context menu of a folder or drive
and shows you the size of this folder, including its subfolders in an
Explorer-like fashion. Large folders can be identified at a glance
thanks to the gradient bar displayed in the background. All scan results
can be drilled down to file level and filters, e.g. for files of a
certain type, can be applied."

Tree maps generated by SequoiaView can be manipulated in the much the
same manner. You can also view individual properties, execute files,
or launch them in Explorer. The list of filetypes can be customized as
well as colors used to represent them. (It even has an option to save
screenshots for future reference which also make dandy wallpaper.)

As a project of the Eindhoven University of Technology it does lack
the pay $55 option but since that doesn't prevent spending the money
elsewhere, this shouldn't be viewed as a liability.

http://w3.win.tue.nl/nl/onderzoek/on...n/sequoiaview/

Never used this but they have a link for an OS X equivalent elsewhere.
http://grandperspectiv.sourceforge.net/

--To right click a folder in Explorer and choose SequoiaView
http://w3.win.tue.nl/nl/onderzoek/on...ps_and_tricks/