Update KB951847 will not install

snip

Nathan wrote:
Do I really need .NET Framework 3.5?

Don't know.

I would gather that if you have it uninstalled now and nothing else is *not*
working - you don't/didn't need it.

The .NET Frameworks are just bases for software writers to use in their
applications if they so desire - so their code doesn't have to be quite so
large and so that they have access to some internal mechanisms in
easier/better ways.

Unfortunately - the .NET Frameworks were not cumulative. 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, 3.5
and soon 4.0. Yay.

Do you *need* any/all of them - depends on what you have installed. Most
applications will tell you that you need them and/or offer to install them
if they do need them. ;-)

At this point - if the machine was mine - I would follow these directions:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...b-1ef8b771dff8

In other words... Use the .NET Cleanup Tool (Method 2), reboot and install
the .NET Updates in this order:

- .Net Framework 3.5
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1-508D977D32A6)
- .Net Framework 1.1
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...D1E7CF3A3&)
- .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...353618B38&)

Should be good to go.

Needs repeating in full?
When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may
receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982

=====================

Step #1 = Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
versions are currently installed:

How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
whether service packs have been applied
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785

Step #2 = Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article...

When you try to install an update for the .NET Framework 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 3.0,
or 3.5, you may receive Windows Update error code "0x643" or Windows
Installer error code "1603" (ignore the title, if need be)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100

After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool, reinstall all .NET Framework
versions (but only the ones you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the
download links on the page then run Windows Update manually to install
security updates for same.

NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling .NET
Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then
Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.

IMPORTANT! = If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET
Framework versions in the following order:

1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1

NB: KB923100 references this page:
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archi...30/611355.aspx. Please read
ALL of it as well as the related page
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/pages/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
Framework Cleanup Tool.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

snip

Nathan wrote:
Do I really need .NET Framework 3.5?

Don't know.

I would gather that if you have it uninstalled now and nothing else is *not*
working - you don't/didn't need it.

The .NET Frameworks are just bases for software writers to use in their
applications if they so desire - so their code doesn't have to be quite so
large and so that they have access to some internal mechanisms in
easier/better ways.

Unfortunately - the .NET Frameworks were not cumulative. 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, 3.5
and soon 4.0. Yay.

Do you *need* any/all of them - depends on what you have installed. Most
applications will tell you that you need them and/or offer to install them
if they do need them. ;-)

At this point - if the machine was mine - I would follow these directions:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...b-1ef8b771dff8

In other words... Use the .NET Cleanup Tool (Method 2), reboot and install
the .NET Updates in this order:

- .Net Framework 3.5
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1-508D977D32A6)
- .Net Framework 1.1
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...D1E7CF3A3&)
- .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...353618B38&)

Should be good to go.

Needs repeating in full?
When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may
receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982

=====================

Step #1 = Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
versions are currently installed:

How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
whether service packs have been applied
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785

Step #2 = Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article...

When you try to install an update for the .NET Framework 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 3.0,
or 3.5, you may receive Windows Update error code "0x643" or Windows
Installer error code "1603" (ignore the title, if need be)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100

After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool, reinstall all .NET Framework
versions (but only the ones you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the
download links on the page then run Windows Update manually to install
security updates for same.

NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling .NET
Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then
Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.

IMPORTANT! = If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET
Framework versions in the following order:

1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1

NB: KB923100 references this page:
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archi...30/611355.aspx. Please read
ALL of it as well as the related page
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/pages/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
Framework Cleanup Tool.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

I recently had a problem where a .NET update would not install. I went through all
sorts of contortions, un-installing all the updates, running cleaners, re-installing
as-nauseum.

The final solution was to download the update install separately, and run it from the
HD. The automagic thing just would not work. I never found out why.

I don't know if this is applicable to your problems.

Mike

I recently had a problem where a .NET update would not install. I went through all
sorts of contortions, un-installing all the updates, running cleaners, re-installing
as-nauseum.

The final solution was to download the update install separately, and run it from the
HD. The automagic thing just would not work. I never found out why.

I don't know if this is applicable to your problems.

Mike

Shenan Stanley wrote:
snip

Nathan wrote:
Do I really need .NET Framework 3.5?

Don't know.

I would gather that if you have it uninstalled now and nothing else is *not*
working - you don't/didn't need it.

The .NET Frameworks are just bases for software writers to use in their
applications if they so desire - so their code doesn't have to be quite so
large and so that they have access to some internal mechanisms in
easier/better ways.

Unfortunately - the .NET Frameworks were not cumulative. 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, 3.5
and soon 4.0. Yay.

Do you *need* any/all of them - depends on what you have installed. Most
applications will tell you that you need them and/or offer to install them
if they do need them. ;-)

At this point - if the machine was mine - I would follow these directions:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...b-1ef8b771dff8

In other words... Use the .NET Cleanup Tool (Method 2), reboot and install
the .NET Updates in this order:

- .Net Framework 3.5
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1-508D977D32A6)
- .Net Framework 1.1
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...D1E7CF3A3&)
- .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...353618B38&)

Should be good to go.

Needs repeating in full?
When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may
receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982

=====================

Step #1 = Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
versions are currently installed:

How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
whether service packs have been applied
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785

Step #2 = Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article...

When you try to install an update for the .NET Framework 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 3.0,
or 3.5, you may receive Windows Update error code "0x643" or Windows
Installer error code "1603" (ignore the title, if need be)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100

After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool, reinstall all .NET Framework
versions (but only the ones you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the
download links on the page then run Windows Update manually to install
security updates for same.

NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling .NET
Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then
Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.

IMPORTANT! = If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET
Framework versions in the following order:

1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1

NB: KB923100 references this page:
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archi...30/611355.aspx. Please read
ALL of it as well as the related page
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/pages/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
Framework Cleanup Tool.

So far so good, that did it. Too bad that I had to jump through hoops to
have it done.
All this time that I was trying to fix it I turned off the Automatic
Update. Do you think I can turn it back on? Scarred to touch anything so
it won't set me back somewhere else.
Thank you for being so patient and helping out.
Nathan

Shenan Stanley wrote:
snip

Nathan wrote:
Do I really need .NET Framework 3.5?

Don't know.

I would gather that if you have it uninstalled now and nothing else is *not*
working - you don't/didn't need it.

The .NET Frameworks are just bases for software writers to use in their
applications if they so desire - so their code doesn't have to be quite so
large and so that they have access to some internal mechanisms in
easier/better ways.

Unfortunately - the .NET Frameworks were not cumulative. 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, 3.5
and soon 4.0. Yay.

Do you *need* any/all of them - depends on what you have installed. Most
applications will tell you that you need them and/or offer to install them
if they do need them. ;-)

At this point - if the machine was mine - I would follow these directions:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...b-1ef8b771dff8

In other words... Use the .NET Cleanup Tool (Method 2), reboot and install
the .NET Updates in this order:

- .Net Framework 3.5
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1-508D977D32A6)
- .Net Framework 1.1
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...D1E7CF3A3&)
- .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...353618B38&)

Should be good to go.

Needs repeating in full?
When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may
receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982

=====================

Step #1 = Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
versions are currently installed:

How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
whether service packs have been applied
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785

Step #2 = Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article...

When you try to install an update for the .NET Framework 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 3.0,
or 3.5, you may receive Windows Update error code "0x643" or Windows
Installer error code "1603" (ignore the title, if need be)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100

After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool, reinstall all .NET Framework
versions (but only the ones you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the
download links on the page then run Windows Update manually to install
security updates for same.

NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling .NET
Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then
Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.

IMPORTANT! = If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET
Framework versions in the following order:

1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1

NB: KB923100 references this page:
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archi...30/611355.aspx. Please read
ALL of it as well as the related page
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/pages/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
Framework Cleanup Tool.

So far so good, that did it. Too bad that I had to jump through hoops to
have it done.
All this time that I was trying to fix it I turned off the Automatic
Update. Do you think I can turn it back on? Scarred to touch anything so
it won't set me back somewhere else.
Thank you for being so patient and helping out.
Nathan

snip
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...e5da20a1fc839/



Nathan wrote:
Do I really need .NET Framework 3.5?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
Don't know.

I would gather that if you have it uninstalled now and nothing else
is *not* working - you don't/didn't need it.

The .NET Frameworks are just bases for software writers to use in
their applications if they so desire - so their code doesn't have
to be quite so large and so that they have access to some internal
mechanisms in easier/better ways.

Unfortunately - the .NET Frameworks were not cumulative. 1.1, 2.0,
3.0, 3.5 and soon 4.0. Yay.

Do you *need* any/all of them - depends on what you have installed.
Most applications will tell you that you need them and/or offer to
install them if they do need them. ;-)

At this point - if the machine was mine - I would follow these
directions:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...b-1ef8b771dff8

In other words... Use the .NET Cleanup Tool (Method 2), reboot and
install the .NET Updates in this order:

- .Net Framework 3.5
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1-508D977D32A6)
- .Net Framework 1.1
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...D1E7CF3A3&)
- .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...353618B38&)

Should be good to go.

Needs repeating in full?
When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update
you may receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982

=====================

Step #1 = Before doing anything else, write down what .NET
Framework versions are currently installed:

How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed
and whether service packs have been applied
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785

Step #2 = Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article...

When you try to install an update for the .NET Framework 1.0, 1.1,
2.0, 3.0, or 3.5, you may receive Windows Update error code "0x643"
or Windows Installer error code "1603" (ignore the title, if need
be) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100

After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool, reinstall all .NET
Framework versions (but only the ones you wrote down in #1 above)
manually using the download links on the page then run Windows
Update manually to install security updates for same.

NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool,
reinstalling .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework
2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework
3.5 SP1.
IMPORTANT! = If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall
your .NET Framework versions in the following order:

1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1

NB: KB923100 references this page:
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archi...30/611355.aspx. Please read
ALL of it as well as the related page
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/pages/8904493.aspx before using the
.NET Framework Cleanup Tool.

Nathan wrote:
So far so good, that did it. Too bad that I had to jump through
hoops to have it done.
All this time that I was trying to fix it I turned off the Automatic
Update. Do you think I can turn it back on? Scarred to touch
anything so it won't set me back somewhere else.
Thank you for being so patient and helping out.

On my Windows XP machines (personal) I have automatic updates set to "Notify
me but don't automatically download or install them" and generally when I
get notified, I visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and do a custom
scan for updates and review/install what it finds under all categories other
than "Optional Hardware" as I see fit. Some I will hide, some I will
install.

In this way I still get notified of updates when they are released
(out-of-band in particular) - but I have the control, I make the decision on
what is to be installed and it gives me the time to take any extra
precautions I deem necessary first. Most of the time it is nothing more
than an extra backups, system state backup - sometimes it can be a full
image of my system partition. Depends on what I discover (I will lurk the
newsgroups here - particularly the WindowsUpdate newsgroup - and see if
others start reporting issues before I do anything.)

I'm glad you have things sorted thus far!

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

snip
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...e5da20a1fc839/



Nathan wrote:
Do I really need .NET Framework 3.5?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
Don't know.

I would gather that if you have it uninstalled now and nothing else
is *not* working - you don't/didn't need it.

The .NET Frameworks are just bases for software writers to use in
their applications if they so desire - so their code doesn't have
to be quite so large and so that they have access to some internal
mechanisms in easier/better ways.

Unfortunately - the .NET Frameworks were not cumulative. 1.1, 2.0,
3.0, 3.5 and soon 4.0. Yay.

Do you *need* any/all of them - depends on what you have installed.
Most applications will tell you that you need them and/or offer to
install them if they do need them. ;-)

At this point - if the machine was mine - I would follow these
directions:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...b-1ef8b771dff8

In other words... Use the .NET Cleanup Tool (Method 2), reboot and
install the .NET Updates in this order:

- .Net Framework 3.5
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...1-508D977D32A6)
- .Net Framework 1.1
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...D1E7CF3A3&)
- .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...353618B38&)

Should be good to go.

Needs repeating in full?
When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update
you may receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982

=====================

Step #1 = Before doing anything else, write down what .NET
Framework versions are currently installed:

How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed
and whether service packs have been applied
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785

Step #2 = Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article...

When you try to install an update for the .NET Framework 1.0, 1.1,
2.0, 3.0, or 3.5, you may receive Windows Update error code "0x643"
or Windows Installer error code "1603" (ignore the title, if need
be) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100

After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool, reinstall all .NET
Framework versions (but only the ones you wrote down in #1 above)
manually using the download links on the page then run Windows
Update manually to install security updates for same.

NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool,
reinstalling .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework
2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework
3.5 SP1.
IMPORTANT! = If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall
your .NET Framework versions in the following order:

1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1

NB: KB923100 references this page:
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archi...30/611355.aspx. Please read
ALL of it as well as the related page
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/pages/8904493.aspx before using the
.NET Framework Cleanup Tool.

Nathan wrote:
So far so good, that did it. Too bad that I had to jump through
hoops to have it done.
All this time that I was trying to fix it I turned off the Automatic
Update. Do you think I can turn it back on? Scarred to touch
anything so it won't set me back somewhere else.
Thank you for being so patient and helping out.

On my Windows XP machines (personal) I have automatic updates set to "Notify
me but don't automatically download or install them" and generally when I
get notified, I visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and do a custom
scan for updates and review/install what it finds under all categories other
than "Optional Hardware" as I see fit. Some I will hide, some I will
install.

In this way I still get notified of updates when they are released
(out-of-band in particular) - but I have the control, I make the decision on
what is to be installed and it gives me the time to take any extra
precautions I deem necessary first. Most of the time it is nothing more
than an extra backups, system state backup - sometimes it can be a full
image of my system partition. Depends on what I discover (I will lurk the
newsgroups here - particularly the WindowsUpdate newsgroup - and see if
others start reporting issues before I do anything.)

I'm glad you have things sorted thus far!

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Shenan Stanley wrote:
snip
Nathan wrote:
So far so good, that did it. Too bad that I had to jump through
hoops to have it done.
All this time that I was trying to fix it I turned off the Automatic
Update. Do you think I can turn it back on? Scarred to touch
anything so it won't set me back somewhere else.
Thank you for being so patient and helping out.

On my Windows XP machines (personal) I have automatic updates set to "Notify
me but don't automatically download or install them" and generally when I
get notified, I visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and do a custom
scan for updates and review/install what it finds under all categories other
than "Optional Hardware" as I see fit. Some I will hide, some I will
install.

In this way I still get notified of updates when they are released
(out-of-band in particular) - but I have the control, I make the decision on
what is to be installed and it gives me the time to take any extra
precautions I deem necessary first. Most of the time it is nothing more
than an extra backups, system state backup - sometimes it can be a full
image of my system partition. Depends on what I discover (I will lurk the
newsgroups here - particularly the WindowsUpdate newsgroup - and see if
others start reporting issues before I do anything.)

I'm glad you have things sorted thus far!

Thanks again...one more question... how do I HIDE and update?
Nathan

Shenan Stanley wrote:
snip
Nathan wrote:
So far so good, that did it. Too bad that I had to jump through
hoops to have it done.
All this time that I was trying to fix it I turned off the Automatic
Update. Do you think I can turn it back on? Scarred to touch
anything so it won't set me back somewhere else.
Thank you for being so patient and helping out.

On my Windows XP machines (personal) I have automatic updates set to "Notify
me but don't automatically download or install them" and generally when I
get notified, I visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and do a custom
scan for updates and review/install what it finds under all categories other
than "Optional Hardware" as I see fit. Some I will hide, some I will
install.

In this way I still get notified of updates when they are released
(out-of-band in particular) - but I have the control, I make the decision on
what is to be installed and it gives me the time to take any extra
precautions I deem necessary first. Most of the time it is nothing more
than an extra backups, system state backup - sometimes it can be a full
image of my system partition. Depends on what I discover (I will lurk the
newsgroups here - particularly the WindowsUpdate newsgroup - and see if
others start reporting issues before I do anything.)

I'm glad you have things sorted thus far!

Thanks again...one more question... how do I HIDE and update?
Nathan

snip
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...e5da20a1fc839/



Shenan Stanley wrote:
snipped
I'm glad you have things sorted thus far!

Nathan wrote:
Thanks again...one more question... how do I HIDE and update?

Look through these:
http://forums.techguy.org/windows-xp...-you-hide.html
http://www.computing.net/answers/win...es/167130.html
http://forums.techguy.org/windows-xp...ws-update.html

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

snip
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...e5da20a1fc839/



Shenan Stanley wrote:
snipped
I'm glad you have things sorted thus far!

Nathan wrote:
Thanks again...one more question... how do I HIDE and update?

Look through these:
http://forums.techguy.org/windows-xp...-you-hide.html
http://www.computing.net/answers/win...es/167130.html
http://forums.techguy.org/windows-xp...ws-update.html

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html