Can't load disc - please help

I have been given a Presario CQ61 lap top. It originally had W7 on it but
the past owner screwed it up. A mate of his kindly put a dodgy copy of Vista
on it.
I have a dodgy W7 disc and the Windows loader ------- yes, I know.
For the life of me I can't get the W7 DVD to do anything. Lap top is set to
boot from DVD drive but nothing happens.
I can see the W7 disc in "my computer" but Windows can't even open it.
There is something about a ISO or something? I have no idea what a ISO is.
I'm still on my faithful XP and have never been very adventurous.
The lap top is clean, I'm good at that. He had 20 viruses and over 600
malware on it.
Anybody help me out? In dead simple terms please.

Thanks

In message , Mr Pounder
writes:
I have been given a Presario CQ61 lap top. It originally had W7 on it but
the past owner screwed it up. A mate of his kindly put a dodgy copy of Vista
on it.
I have a dodgy W7 disc and the Windows loader ------- yes, I know.
For the life of me I can't get the W7 DVD to do anything. Lap top is set to
boot from DVD drive but nothing happens.
I can see the W7 disc in "my computer" but Windows can't even open it.
There is something about a ISO or something? I have no idea what a ISO is.
I'm still on my faithful XP and have never been very adventurous.
The lap top is clean, I'm good at that. He had 20 viruses and over 600
malware on it.
Anybody help me out? In dead simple terms please.

Thanks


If, on your "faithful XP" machine, you look at your "W7 DVD", do you see
just one file called something.iso? If so, your "dodgy W7 disc" needs
"unwrapping".

An ISO file is an image of a CD or DVD, all in one file. You need a
burner software that can take this file and make a CD from it - which is
_not_ just a matter of putting the file on a CD. I'm not sure if the
very basic CD/DVD burning software that comes with XP can handle ISO
files (i. e. use them to make the CD/DVD they contain), but virtually
any third party burning software can. Look for "make CD/DVD from ISO
file" or similar wording.

(Obviously, if you've only got one optical drive, you'll have to copy
the ISO file to the hard disc first.)

This may have nothing to do with your problem!
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Old soldiers never die - only young ones

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 19:29:48 -0000, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:

I have been given a Presario CQ61 lap top. It originally had W7 on it but
the past owner screwed it up. A mate of his kindly put a dodgy copy of Vista
on it.
I have a dodgy W7 disc and the Windows loader ------- yes, I know.
For the life of me I can't get the W7 DVD to do anything. Lap top is set to
boot from DVD drive but nothing happens.
I can see the W7 disc in "my computer" but Windows can't even open it.
There is something about a ISO or something? I have no idea what a ISO is.
I'm still on my faithful XP and have never been very adventurous.
The lap top is clean, I'm good at that. He had 20 viruses and over 600
malware on it.
Anybody help me out? In dead simple terms please.

If the disc has an ISO file on it, you'll need to burn that to a fresh disc.
Copy the ISO file to your hard drive, then use ImgBurn to "Write image file
to disc". The result may be bootable, depending on what's in the ISO file.

http://www.imgburn.com/


--

Char Jackson

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
In message , Mr Pounder
writes:
I have been given a Presario CQ61 lap top. It originally had W7 on it but
the past owner screwed it up. A mate of his kindly put a dodgy copy of
Vista
on it.
I have a dodgy W7 disc and the Windows loader ------- yes, I know.
For the life of me I can't get the W7 DVD to do anything. Lap top is set
to
boot from DVD drive but nothing happens.
I can see the W7 disc in "my computer" but Windows can't even open it.
There is something about a ISO or something? I have no idea what a ISO is.
I'm still on my faithful XP and have never been very adventurous.
The lap top is clean, I'm good at that. He had 20 viruses and over 600
malware on it.
Anybody help me out? In dead simple terms please.

Thanks


If, on your "faithful XP" machine, you look at your "W7 DVD", do you see
just one file called something.iso? If so, your "dodgy W7 disc" needs
"unwrapping".

An ISO file is an image of a CD or DVD, all in one file. You need a burner
software that can take this file and make a CD from it - which is _not_
just a matter of putting the file on a CD. I'm not sure if the very basic
CD/DVD burning software that comes with XP can handle ISO files (i. e. use
them to make the CD/DVD they contain), but virtually any third party
burning software can. Look for "make CD/DVD from ISO file" or similar
wording.

(Obviously, if you've only got one optical drive, you'll have to copy the
ISO file to the hard disc first.)

This may have nothing to do with your problem!

Yeah, it says ISO file 3,149,108 KB.
I have 2 optical drives on my XP machine.
I have not got any blank DVD discs, I'll get some and use the link supplied
by Chad.
Thanks to both of you :-)
The guy that sent me the W7 disc knew what I was intending to do with
it............

"Stormin' Norman" wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 19:29:48 -0000, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:

I have been given a Presario CQ61 lap top. It originally had W7 on it but
the past owner screwed it up. A mate of his kindly put a dodgy copy of
Vista
on it.
I have a dodgy W7 disc and the Windows loader ------- yes, I know.
For the life of me I can't get the W7 DVD to do anything. Lap top is set
to
boot from DVD drive but nothing happens.
I can see the W7 disc in "my computer" but Windows can't even open it.
There is something about a ISO or something? I have no idea what a ISO is.
I'm still on my faithful XP and have never been very adventurous.
The lap top is clean, I'm good at that. He had 20 viruses and over 600
malware on it.
Anybody help me out? In dead simple terms please.

Thanks


These instructions might help. I like the idea of getting a known
good ISO for the operating system and then burning it per the
instructions.

http://www.howtogeek.com/186775/how-...media-legally/


Link saved, thanks. You have just blown my mind :-)

"Mr Pounder" wrote in message
...

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
In message , Mr Pounder
writes:
I have been given a Presario CQ61 lap top. It originally had W7 on it but
the past owner screwed it up. A mate of his kindly put a dodgy copy of
Vista
on it.
I have a dodgy W7 disc and the Windows loader ------- yes, I know.
For the life of me I can't get the W7 DVD to do anything. Lap top is set
to
boot from DVD drive but nothing happens.
I can see the W7 disc in "my computer" but Windows can't even open it.
There is something about a ISO or something? I have no idea what a ISO
is.
I'm still on my faithful XP and have never been very adventurous.
The lap top is clean, I'm good at that. He had 20 viruses and over 600
malware on it.
Anybody help me out? In dead simple terms please.

Thanks


If, on your "faithful XP" machine, you look at your "W7 DVD", do you see
just one file called something.iso? If so, your "dodgy W7 disc" needs
"unwrapping".

An ISO file is an image of a CD or DVD, all in one file. You need a
burner software that can take this file and make a CD from it - which is
_not_ just a matter of putting the file on a CD. I'm not sure if the very
basic CD/DVD burning software that comes with XP can handle ISO files (i.
e. use them to make the CD/DVD they contain), but virtually any third
party burning software can. Look for "make CD/DVD from ISO file" or
similar wording.

(Obviously, if you've only got one optical drive, you'll have to copy the
ISO file to the hard disc first.)

This may have nothing to do with your problem!

Yeah, it says ISO file 3,149,108 KB.
I have 2 optical drives on my XP machine.
I have not got any blank DVD discs, I'll get some and use the link
supplied by Chad.
Thanks to both of you :-)
The guy that sent me the W7 disc knew what I was intending to do with
it............

Err sorry, his name is Char.

"Mr Pounder" wrote in message ...
I have been given a Presario CQ61 lap top. It originally had W7 on it but
the past owner screwed it up. A mate of his kindly put a dodgy copy of Vista
on it.
I have a dodgy W7 disc and the Windows loader ------- yes, I know.
For the life of me I can't get the W7 DVD to do anything. Lap top is set to
boot from DVD drive but nothing happens.
I can see the W7 disc in "my computer" but Windows can't even open it.
There is something about a ISO or something? I have no idea what a ISO is.
I'm still on my faithful XP and have never been very adventurous.
The lap top is clean, I'm good at that. He had 20 viruses and over 600
malware on it.
Anybody help me out? In dead simple terms please.

Thanks




Try downloading a good dvd image and boot from that.

Win7 Ultimate 32 bit:
http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/win/X17-59463.iso

Win7 Ultimate 64 bit:
http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/win/X17-59465.iso

"Dave-UK" wrote in message
eb.com...

"Mr Pounder" wrote in message
...
I have been given a Presario CQ61 lap top. It originally had W7 on it but
the past owner screwed it up. A mate of his kindly put a dodgy copy of
Vista on it.
I have a dodgy W7 disc and the Windows loader ------- yes, I know.
For the life of me I can't get the W7 DVD to do anything. Lap top is set
to boot from DVD drive but nothing happens.
I can see the W7 disc in "my computer" but Windows can't even open it.
There is something about a ISO or something? I have no idea what a ISO
is. I'm still on my faithful XP and have never been very adventurous.
The lap top is clean, I'm good at that. He had 20 viruses and over 600
malware on it.
Anybody help me out? In dead simple terms please.

Thanks


Try downloading a good dvd image and boot from that.

Win7 Ultimate 32 bit:
http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/win/X17-59463.iso

The lap top is 32 bit.
I clicked on the link using XP and was asked what I wanted to open the link
with? ? I haven't got any DVDs yet anyway.
Please pardon my ignorance, I've been with computers for nearly 20 years but
only did what I had to do and what interested me.
Amstrad 1640 was my first computer

Thanks for the help :-)





Win7 Ultimate 64 bit:
http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/win/X17-59465.iso

"Mr Pounder" wrote in message ...

"Dave-UK" wrote in message
eb.com...

"Mr Pounder" wrote in message
...
I have been given a Presario CQ61 lap top. It originally had W7 on it but
the past owner screwed it up. A mate of his kindly put a dodgy copy of
Vista on it.
I have a dodgy W7 disc and the Windows loader ------- yes, I know.
For the life of me I can't get the W7 DVD to do anything. Lap top is set
to boot from DVD drive but nothing happens.
I can see the W7 disc in "my computer" but Windows can't even open it.
There is something about a ISO or something? I have no idea what a ISO
is. I'm still on my faithful XP and have never been very adventurous.
The lap top is clean, I'm good at that. He had 20 viruses and over 600
malware on it.
Anybody help me out? In dead simple terms please.

Thanks


Try downloading a good dvd image and boot from that.

Win7 Ultimate 32 bit:
http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/win/X17-59463.iso

The lap top is 32 bit.
I clicked on the link using XP and was asked what I wanted to open the link
with? ? I haven't got any DVDs yet anyway.
Please pardon my ignorance, I've been with computers for nearly 20 years but
only did what I had to do and what interested me.
Amstrad 1640 was my first computer

Thanks for the help :-)

You don't open the iso file, you download it.
When you have downloaded the iso file burn it to disc with a dvd/cd burning program.
When you have got the dvd boot the laptop with it.
Install Windows.
During the install when the setup asks for the product key choose to skip that step.
Windows will install in 30 day trial mode.
Run your loader.

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 20:26:41 -0000, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:


"Mr Pounder" wrote in message
...

Yeah, it says ISO file 3,149,108 KB.
I have 2 optical drives on my XP machine.
I have not got any blank DVD discs, I'll get some and use the link
supplied by Chad.
Thanks to both of you :-)
The guy that sent me the W7 disc knew what I was intending to do with
it............

Err sorry, his name is Char.

Chad is fine. :-)

--

Char Jackson

Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 19:29:48 -0000, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:

I have been given a Presario CQ61 lap top. It originally had W7 on it but
the past owner screwed it up. A mate of his kindly put a dodgy copy of Vista
on it.
I have a dodgy W7 disc and the Windows loader ------- yes, I know.
For the life of me I can't get the W7 DVD to do anything. Lap top is set to
boot from DVD drive but nothing happens.
I can see the W7 disc in "my computer" but Windows can't even open it.
There is something about a ISO or something? I have no idea what a ISO is.
I'm still on my faithful XP and have never been very adventurous.
The lap top is clean, I'm good at that. He had 20 viruses and over 600
malware on it.
Anybody help me out? In dead simple terms please.

If the disc has an ISO file on it, you'll need to burn that to a fresh disc.
Copy the ISO file to your hard drive, then use ImgBurn to "Write image file
to disc". The result may be bootable, depending on what's in the ISO file.

http://www.imgburn.com/



As a comment for background, the issue is you cannot "drag and drop"
an ISO9660 file onto a blank DVD. It just copies the file to the
DVD if you do that. Then it cannot boot, because all the "goodness"
is hidden inside the .iso file, out of reach.

Instead, burning programs *convert* an ISO9660 file in such a way,
that the thing is loaded as a complete file system onto the blank
disc. In the same way that a person might copy a hard drive
with "dd" (disk dump), sector by sector, to another hard drive.
So the ISO9660 needs to be laid down on the disc as a file system,
and not as a single solitary file via drag and drop. The ISO9660
has a file system inside.

Imgburn has such a function, and it's the tool I use all the
time to burn discs for this purpose (booting). My recommendation
on source is version 2.5.0.0, which is free of adware. After
2.5.0.0 is installed, turn off the "update" function, so no
adware can come in that way. Also, turn off the audio sound
effects, which can be ear splitting if you're used to a
relatively silent computer. It "beeps" when the burn is done.

http://www.oldversion.com/windows/do...mgburn-2-5-0-0

2.5.0.0_SetupImgBurn_2.5.0.0.exe 2,169,915 bytes Jul 26, 2009
CRC32: 39CD6FC6
MD5: F3791CFACDAC03B9E676E44AA2630243
SHA-1: E07BCC23B495D0A966BAE359EA9E0E3A11888454

You can use a newer version if you want - just be careful
to untick any box that might cause adware to get installed.
Personally, I'm not interested in taking that chance, which is
why I hunted down and validated that older version. The author
of the program provided checksums, so it is possible to determine
that it hasn't been modified.

*******

In addition to that bit of trivia, Microsoft makes a small
program that copies a Win7 or Win8 DVD image to a USB flash
key. This would be useful for situations where you have
a netbook, and it doesn't have an optical drive at all.
Rather than go out and buy a USB optical drive, you can
get by with an 8GB USB flash key (i.e. big enough to hold
a bloated OS installer DVD).

http://web.archive.org/web/201201022...usbdvd_dwnTool

http://web.archive.org/web/201110052...B-DVD-tool.exe

When you run the "Windows7-USB-DVD-tool.exe" download, it'll
install on your machine. It doesn't install in Program Files,
and I think some portion of it goes into App Data or something.
It's a bit weird that way.

The location is important, if you want to "fix it" and make it
universal. In a peculiar twist, the program needs a "helper"
by the name of bootsect.exe. If one is not found in its installation
folder, it *extracts* one from the ISO9660 file it has been
asked to burn. Say you are attempting to burn a x64 DVD image
on a 32 bit OS computer. It extracts the x64 bootsect.exe
from the ISO9660 and... kaboom, the exe won't run on a 32 bit OS.

So what I did, is found a 32 bit DVD, "borrowed" the bootsect.exe
and put it next to the main program itself. Now, if I want to
transfer an x64 ISO9660 image of an OS on my 32 bit WinXP machine,
that 32 bit copy of bootsect is used when preparing all the
USB keys used, so it always matches the 32 bit OS it is
running under.

Anyway, on a number of occasions, I've put Win7 or Win8 (preview or
purchased) OSes on USB keys with that thing, and it's pretty handy.
It just takes a bit of getting used to. I think just about any
tool I've used like that, Linux or Windows, takes a bit of getting
used to. And that's the recipe you use, if you need to work
with an optical-drive-free netbook.

Paul

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:40:45 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 20:26:41 -0000, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:


"Mr Pounder" wrote in message
...

Yeah, it says ISO file 3,149,108 KB.
I have 2 optical drives on my XP machine.
I have not got any blank DVD discs, I'll get some and use the link
supplied by Chad.
Thanks to both of you :-)
The guy that sent me the W7 disc knew what I was intending to do with
it............

Err sorry, his name is Char.

Chad is fine. :-)

Thanks for being such an understanding Chap.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:09:24 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:40:45 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 20:26:41 -0000, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:


"Mr Pounder" wrote in message
...

Yeah, it says ISO file 3,149,108 KB.
I have 2 optical drives on my XP machine.
I have not got any blank DVD discs, I'll get some and use the link
supplied by Chad.
Thanks to both of you :-)
The guy that sent me the W7 disc knew what I was intending to do with
it............

Err sorry, his name is Char.

Chad is fine. :-)

Thanks for being such an understanding Chap.


Are you planning on having a Chat with him?

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:17:43 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:09:24 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:40:45 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 20:26:41 -0000, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:


"Mr Pounder" wrote in message
...

Yeah, it says ISO file 3,149,108 KB.
I have 2 optical drives on my XP machine.
I have not got any blank DVD discs, I'll get some and use the link
supplied by Chad.
Thanks to both of you :-)
The guy that sent me the W7 disc knew what I was intending to do with
it............

Err sorry, his name is Char.

Chad is fine. :-)

Thanks for being such an understanding Chap.

Are you planning on having a Chat with him?

:-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:55:19 -0500, Paul wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 19:29:48 -0000, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:

I have been given a Presario CQ61 lap top. It originally had W7 on it but
the past owner screwed it up. A mate of his kindly put a dodgy copy of Vista
on it.
I have a dodgy W7 disc and the Windows loader ------- yes, I know.
For the life of me I can't get the W7 DVD to do anything. Lap top is set to
boot from DVD drive but nothing happens.
I can see the W7 disc in "my computer" but Windows can't even open it.
There is something about a ISO or something? I have no idea what a ISO is.
I'm still on my faithful XP and have never been very adventurous.
The lap top is clean, I'm good at that. He had 20 viruses and over 600
malware on it.
Anybody help me out? In dead simple terms please.

If the disc has an ISO file on it, you'll need to burn that to a fresh disc.
Copy the ISO file to your hard drive, then use ImgBurn to "Write image file
to disc". The result may be bootable, depending on what's in the ISO file.

http://www.imgburn.com/



As a comment for background, the issue is you cannot "drag and drop"
an ISO9660 file onto a blank DVD. It just copies the file to the
DVD if you do that. Then it cannot boot, because all the "goodness"
is hidden inside the .iso file, out of reach.

Hopefully, the OP will see this. I've been familiar with ISO files since at
least the mid-1990's.

snip

Imgburn has such a function, and it's the tool I use all the
time to burn discs for this purpose (booting). My recommendation
on source is version 2.5.0.0, which is free of adware. After
2.5.0.0 is installed, turn off the "update" function, so no
adware can come in that way. Also, turn off the audio sound
effects, which can be ear splitting if you're used to a
relatively silent computer. It "beeps" when the burn is done.

http://www.oldversion.com/windows/do...mgburn-2-5-0-0

2.5.0.0_SetupImgBurn_2.5.0.0.exe 2,169,915 bytes Jul 26, 2009
CRC32: 39CD6FC6
MD5: F3791CFACDAC03B9E676E44AA2630243
SHA-1: E07BCC23B495D0A966BAE359EA9E0E3A11888454

You can use a newer version if you want - just be careful
to untick any box that might cause adware to get installed.
Personally, I'm not interested in taking that chance, which is
why I hunted down and validated that older version. The author
of the program provided checksums, so it is possible to determine
that it hasn't been modified.

I use and recommend the latest version of utilities like this. In fact, as a
result of this thread I updated ImgBurn from 2.5.7.0 to 2.5.8.0 today.

snip

--

Char Jackson