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What is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth (forpanopticlick)
I want to be as neutral as possible when posting to political forums.
I use Panopticlick as my test of my browser fingerprint. I am working on changing that fingerprint, and one change is my reported "Screen Size and Color Depth" Here are all the viable screen sizes and color depths http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_display_standard Just before I log into the political forums, I want to temporarily set mine to the most common there is out there today. But what is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth today? Is it "1024x768x24" or "1366x768" or "1280x1024" or ? |
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What is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth (for panopticlick)
Madison James wrote:
I want to be as neutral as possible when posting to political forums. I use Panopticlick as my test of my browser fingerprint. I am working on changing that fingerprint, and one change is my reported "Screen Size and Color Depth" Here are all the viable screen sizes and color depths http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_display_standard Just before I log into the political forums, I want to temporarily set mine to the most common there is out there today. But what is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth today? Is it "1024x768x24" or "1366x768" or "1280x1024" or ? The reported value may not be the screen resolution, but the dimensions of the browser window. You will become dizzy, if you attempt to trace down "exactly what you're supposed to send". https://www.mail-archive.com/tor-bug.../msg66751.html Paul |
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What is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth (forpanopticlick)
Paul wrote, on Fri, 23 Jan 2015 20:19:02 -0500:
https://www.mail-archive.com/tor-bug.../msg66751.html Something is odd indeed! After reading that interesting bug report, I installed the tor browser and then checked results at panopticlick with the menu bar enabled: Screen Size and Color Depth=1000x867x24 I then added the bookmarks toolbar, and tried again with another session: Screen Size and Color Depth=1000x835x24 Then I disabled both bars and tried again with another TBB session: Screen Size and Color Depth=1000x900x24 I tried the same trick with a "normal" Firefox session, after setting the firefox window manually to the same size as that last test above: Screen Size and Color Depth=1280x1024x24 I tried adding the menu bar and bookmarks toolbar, but the results stayed the same for the "normal" Firefox window. So, it seems that the Tor browser bundle reports the actual size of the tor window (which is a good thing) while the normal Firefox reports the size of the display (which is a bad thing). |
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What is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth (for panopticlick)
On 24/01/15 03:07, Sage wrote:
Paul wrote, on Fri, 23 Jan 2015 20:19:02 -0500: https://www.mail-archive.com/tor-bug.../msg66751.html Something is odd indeed! After reading that interesting bug report, I installed the tor browser and then checked results at panopticlick with the menu bar enabled: Screen Size and Color Depth=1000x867x24 I then added the bookmarks toolbar, and tried again with another session: Screen Size and Color Depth=1000x835x24 Then I disabled both bars and tried again with another TBB session: Screen Size and Color Depth=1000x900x24 I tried the same trick with a "normal" Firefox session, after setting the firefox window manually to the same size as that last test above: Screen Size and Color Depth=1280x1024x24 I tried adding the menu bar and bookmarks toolbar, but the results stayed the same for the "normal" Firefox window. So, it seems that the Tor browser bundle reports the actual size of the tor window (which is a good thing) while the normal Firefox reports the size of the display (which is a bad thing). The Tor browser is reporting the canvas size, this can leak information that you have extra bars installed and of course make you more unique as not everyone has the same bars installed but many have their windows maximized. Reporting a viewport size makes you less unique as it will be the same for everyone with similar setup (which is not equal) and you will not see if there is some extra toolbar installed from the size. -- //Aho |
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|I want to be as neutral as possible when posting to political forums.
| I use Panopticlick as my test of my browser fingerprint. | What do you mean by posting to political forums? If you're posting comments then what does your screen size matter? For webpages, the standard these days is to make the basic page 1000px wide and center it. (Well designed pages are self-sizing.) But that doesn't mean 1024 is the most common. It's more like the lowest common denominator for desktops/laptops. A 1000px webpage with a band of gray left and right looks OK on 1600px width, but the reverse is not true. Also note, screen size is not necessarily browser window size. My screen is about 21" wide, at 1280x720. My eyes are getting old. I like lots of space and to have things big. I keep the browser at about 800px. I don't want to have to actually move my head back and forth to read a line of text. And on most websites these days, the right 200 px is just ads and/or superfluous links. I rarely need to scroll to the right side. All of that is just to say that it's very difficult to come up with a standard for anything online, including page size, colors, layout. There are numerous factors that affect what people actually see. And if you're using Linux or a Mac then you're already seeing something notably different from what 90%+ of the Desktop computers online are displaying. |
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What is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth (forpanopticlick)
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:01:35 +0100, J.O. Aho wrote:
The Tor browser is reporting the canvas size, this can leak information that you have extra bars installed and of course make you more unique as not everyone has the same bars installed but many have their windows maximized. That's interesting in that it shows how many toolbars, in effect, you have enabled. Does this "canvas size" concept include the window borders? By that, I mean, if I size my window, does it change the canvas size? Or is the canvas size only dependent on the number of toolbars visible? Reporting a viewport size makes you less unique as it will be the same for everyone with similar setup (which is not equal) and you will not see if there is some extra toolbar installed from the size. I understand what you're saying, but it's a LOT harder to change the screen resolution than it is to change your browser window size. Ask me how I know. |
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In article , Mayayana
wrote: All of that is just to say that it's very difficult to come up with a standard for anything online, including page size, colors, layout. There are numerous factors that affect what people actually see. And if you're using Linux or a Mac then you're already seeing something notably different from what 90%+ of the Desktop computers online are displaying. complete nonsense. |
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In article , victor davis
wrote: Reporting a viewport size makes you less unique as it will be the same for everyone with similar setup (which is not equal) and you will not see if there is some extra toolbar installed from the size. I understand what you're saying, but it's a LOT harder to change the screen resolution than it is to change your browser window size. not really and you're also assuming only one screen. Ask me how I know. no. |
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:29:52 -0500, Mayayana wrote:
If you're posting comments then what does your screen size matter? You're totally missing the entire point. |
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Mayayana wrote:
|I want to be as neutral as possible when posting to political forums. | I use Panopticlick as my test of my browser fingerprint. | What do you mean by posting to political forums? If you're posting comments then what does your screen size matter? Anonymity is enhanced by having a commonly-used profile, and your profile includes screen size and colour depth as reported by the browser. [snipped the rest - I think you missed the point] -- Mike Barnes Cheshire, England |
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| What do you mean by posting to political forums? | If you're posting comments then what does your | screen size matter? | | Anonymity is enhanced by having a commonly-used profile, and your | profile includes screen size and colour depth as reported by the browser. | Ah. I did, indeed, miss the point. Thanks. Interesting that so many other people understood right off. We must have more than a few rabble rousers here. In that case, to the OP, you might want to take a look at extensions like Secret Agent for Firefox, which allows you to rotate userAgent and spoof such things as Accept headers that are now being explored as a way to provide unique IDs for site visitors. |
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nospam wrote, on Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:47:01 -0500:
not really and you're also assuming only one screen. What does panopticlick.eff.org report when you have more than 1 screen? |
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nospam wrote, on Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:41:27 -0500:
complete nonsense. I have to agree with nospam here. There are percentages out there. All you want is to be mixed in with the crowd. Find the biggest crowd you can, with respect to "reported" screen dimensions (and other things), and you're that much safer from fingerprinting. Percentages can be found here, but no report is perfect, so, take the charts with a grain of salt as mere overview percentages. http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_Display.asp |
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| complete nonsense.
| | I have to agree with nospam here. | | There are percentages out there. | All you want is to be mixed in with the crowd. | If you read the other posts you'll see that I had misunderstood what the OP was asking about. You're also concerned with privacy from govt agencies? If so, and if you go so far as to install Tor, I wonder why you enable javascript. Much of what you're worried about cannot be sent without javascript. Try disabling script and then going to panopticlick. Without script it's pretty much down to userAgent (easily spoofed) and accept headers, which can be altered by some extensions. Presumably the main function of Tor is to hide your IP address. But if you're allowing script (or worse, Flash) you're leaving other doors open, including the risk of driveby download tracking. |
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