Libraries and Other Libraries greyed out in Media Player 12

A friend needs some help learning to rip CD's, so I'm to figure out
Media Player 12. I haven't ripped a CD since @2009, and I didn't use
Media Player back then.

For some reason, Library and Other Libraries are greyed out.

Everything I've found on the web has failed to work. Seems to be a
boatload of WMP 12 issues. What I've looked and and tried includes, but
is not limited to:

Removing and reinstalling
Group policy settings
Deleting and reinstalling the library

I read a lot of articles that looked promising based on title, but part
way through, you know it doesn't apply.

Suggestions? Ideas?



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Ken Springer wrote:
A friend needs some help learning to rip CD's, so I'm to figure out
Media Player 12. I haven't ripped a CD since @2009, and I didn't use
Media Player back then.

For some reason, Library and Other Libraries are greyed out.

Everything I've found on the web has failed to work. Seems to be a
boatload of WMP 12 issues. What I've looked and and tried includes, but
is not limited to:

Removing and reinstalling
Group policy settings
Deleting and reinstalling the library

I read a lot of articles that looked promising based on title, but part
way through, you know it doesn't apply.

Suggestions? Ideas?

A company that loves DRM, and it has a rip CD button ? Who knew ?

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...e3f7d98?auth=1

https://web.archive.org/web/20091223...usic-from-a-CD

I actually own two CDs and I haven't done that. Am I missing
a lot of fun ?

*******

For some reason, this comes to mind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exact_Audio_Copy

Paul

On 2/19/18 3:51 PM, Paul wrote:
Ken Springer wrote:
A friend needs some help learning to rip CD's, so I'm to figure out
Media Player 12. I haven't ripped a CD since @2009, and I didn't use
Media Player back then.

For some reason, Library and Other Libraries are greyed out.

Everything I've found on the web has failed to work. Seems to be a
boatload of WMP 12 issues. What I've looked and and tried includes, but
is not limited to:

Removing and reinstalling
Group policy settings
Deleting and reinstalling the library

I read a lot of articles that looked promising based on title, but part
way through, you know it doesn't apply.

Suggestions? Ideas?

A company that loves DRM, and it has a rip CD button ? Who knew ?

Yea, who knew?? LOL

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...e3f7d98?auth=1

https://web.archive.org/web/20091223...usic-from-a-CD

Ripping is not the problem. Here's a screenshot:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jc44g4whqt...layer.JPG?dl=0

I've circled the items that should not be greyed out. At least, not as
I understand Media Player.

RipCD is greyed out in this screenshot, because I've already ripped the
CD shown in the screenshot.

Google Images has a lot of screenshots with the same thing, but you
don't know how Media Player is set up.

If you manage your library, you're using the normal Windows Music
Library. I've ripped 3 CDs, and the music files are in the Music
Library when I check via Windows Explorer.

I actually own two CDs and I haven't done that. Am I missing
a lot of fun ?

Not in my eyes, you're not! LOL

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Firefox 53.0.2 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 52.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

Ken Springer wrote:

Ripping is not the problem. Here's a screenshot:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jc44g4whqt...layer.JPG?dl=0

I've circled the items that should not be greyed out. At least, not as
I understand Media Player.

RipCD is greyed out in this screenshot, because I've already ripped the
CD shown in the screenshot.

Google Images has a lot of screenshots with the same thing, but you
don't know how Media Player is set up.

If you manage your library, you're using the normal Windows Music
Library. I've ripped 3 CDs, and the music files are in the Music
Library when I check via Windows Explorer.

If I right-click on the greyed out ones, I get a Customize Navigation
box, with a selector at the top. The two greyed out ones are in
the selector. The comment text in the dialog refers to Network Libraries
which suggests HomeGroups to me. Since I don't have HomeGroups enabled here,
my "Other Libraries" must stay greyed out, at a guess.

https://s14.postimg.org/vs4mo3lvl/Cu...Navigation.gif

To test that safely, I'd have to create an isolated virtual network
inside VirtualBox. When I tested that, it had no DHCP or DNS or
anything else, so I had to stop. I'm not "reinventing networks",
just to run simple test cases :-) I'm too lazy for that. It would
have been really neat if that isolated network was complete.

Paul

On 2/19/18 6:48 PM, Paul wrote:
Ken Springer wrote:

Ripping is not the problem. Here's a screenshot:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jc44g4whqt...layer.JPG?dl=0

I've circled the items that should not be greyed out. At least, not as
I understand Media Player.

RipCD is greyed out in this screenshot, because I've already ripped the
CD shown in the screenshot.

Google Images has a lot of screenshots with the same thing, but you
don't know how Media Player is set up.

If you manage your library, you're using the normal Windows Music
Library. I've ripped 3 CDs, and the music files are in the Music
Library when I check via Windows Explorer.

If I right-click on the greyed out ones, I get a Customize Navigation
box, with a selector at the top. The two greyed out ones are in
the selector. The comment text in the dialog refers to Network Libraries
which suggests HomeGroups to me. Since I don't have HomeGroups enabled here,
my "Other Libraries" must stay greyed out, at a guess.

https://s14.postimg.org/vs4mo3lvl/Cu...Navigation.gif

No Homegroups at this end. Got a Mac, XP, and Vista on the network.
Never have gotten XP, Vista, and 7 to successfully connect to the Mac.
OTOH, the Mac connects to everything. I still want to connect Linux
Mint, just haven't had the time.

It doesn't matter which entry in the navigation pane you right click on,
the same customize window opens. And selecting an entry just causes it
to appear in the navigation pane.

I do believe you are correct, Other Libraries refers to network
locations. So, doing a quick test...

Fired up W10, and it's connected to W7. The W10 Music folder is shared.
Other Libraries is still greyed out. Using Manage Libraries from the
menu, I added the W10 Music folder to the Library folder, no difference.

To test that safely, I'd have to create an isolated virtual network
inside VirtualBox. When I tested that, it had no DHCP or DNS or
anything else, so I had to stop. I'm not "reinventing networks",
just to run simple test cases :-) I'm too lazy for that. It would
have been really neat if that isolated network was complete.

If you come up with something you'd like me to try, I'm willing. I'd
like an answer to this, even if I'll never use Media Player.


--
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Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 53.0.2 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 52.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

Ken Springer wrote:
On 2/19/18 6:48 PM, Paul wrote:
Ken Springer wrote:

Ripping is not the problem. Here's a screenshot:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jc44g4whqt...layer.JPG?dl=0

I've circled the items that should not be greyed out. At least, not as
I understand Media Player.

RipCD is greyed out in this screenshot, because I've already ripped the
CD shown in the screenshot.

Google Images has a lot of screenshots with the same thing, but you
don't know how Media Player is set up.

If you manage your library, you're using the normal Windows Music
Library. I've ripped 3 CDs, and the music files are in the Music
Library when I check via Windows Explorer.

If I right-click on the greyed out ones, I get a Customize Navigation
box, with a selector at the top. The two greyed out ones are in
the selector. The comment text in the dialog refers to Network Libraries
which suggests HomeGroups to me. Since I don't have HomeGroups enabled
here,
my "Other Libraries" must stay greyed out, at a guess.

https://s14.postimg.org/vs4mo3lvl/Cu...Navigation.gif

No Homegroups at this end. Got a Mac, XP, and Vista on the network.
Never have gotten XP, Vista, and 7 to successfully connect to the Mac.
OTOH, the Mac connects to everything. I still want to connect Linux
Mint, just haven't had the time.

It doesn't matter which entry in the navigation pane you right click on,
the same customize window opens. And selecting an entry just causes it
to appear in the navigation pane.

I do believe you are correct, Other Libraries refers to network
locations. So, doing a quick test...

Fired up W10, and it's connected to W7. The W10 Music folder is shared.
Other Libraries is still greyed out. Using Manage Libraries from the
menu, I added the W10 Music folder to the Library folder, no difference.

To test that safely, I'd have to create an isolated virtual network
inside VirtualBox. When I tested that, it had no DHCP or DNS or
anything else, so I had to stop. I'm not "reinventing networks",
just to run simple test cases :-) I'm too lazy for that. It would
have been really neat if that isolated network was complete.

If you come up with something you'd like me to try, I'm willing. I'd
like an answer to this, even if I'll never use Media Player.

You could create a Home Group and test that out.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-s...-local-network

(I guess I'm just not a Home Group Evangelist - I'm not really
convinced there's an upside to playing with it... I'm a file
sharing guy. But at least that stuff has libraries as part of it.)

Paul

On 2/20/18 12:44 AM, Paul wrote:
Ken Springer wrote:
On 2/19/18 6:48 PM, Paul wrote:
Ken Springer wrote:

Ripping is not the problem. Here's a screenshot:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jc44g4whqt...layer.JPG?dl=0

I've circled the items that should not be greyed out. At least, not as
I understand Media Player.

RipCD is greyed out in this screenshot, because I've already ripped the
CD shown in the screenshot.

Google Images has a lot of screenshots with the same thing, but you
don't know how Media Player is set up.

If you manage your library, you're using the normal Windows Music
Library. I've ripped 3 CDs, and the music files are in the Music
Library when I check via Windows Explorer.

If I right-click on the greyed out ones, I get a Customize Navigation
box, with a selector at the top. The two greyed out ones are in
the selector. The comment text in the dialog refers to Network Libraries
which suggests HomeGroups to me. Since I don't have HomeGroups enabled
here,
my "Other Libraries" must stay greyed out, at a guess.

https://s14.postimg.org/vs4mo3lvl/Cu...Navigation.gif

No Homegroups at this end. Got a Mac, XP, and Vista on the network.
Never have gotten XP, Vista, and 7 to successfully connect to the Mac.
OTOH, the Mac connects to everything. I still want to connect Linux
Mint, just haven't had the time.

It doesn't matter which entry in the navigation pane you right click on,
the same customize window opens. And selecting an entry just causes it
to appear in the navigation pane.

I do believe you are correct, Other Libraries refers to network
locations. So, doing a quick test...

Fired up W10, and it's connected to W7. The W10 Music folder is shared.
Other Libraries is still greyed out. Using Manage Libraries from the
menu, I added the W10 Music folder to the Library folder, no difference.

To test that safely, I'd have to create an isolated virtual network
inside VirtualBox. When I tested that, it had no DHCP or DNS or
anything else, so I had to stop. I'm not "reinventing networks",
just to run simple test cases :-) I'm too lazy for that. It would
have been really neat if that isolated network was complete.

If you come up with something you'd like me to try, I'm willing. I'd
like an answer to this, even if I'll never use Media Player.

You could create a Home Group and test that out.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-s...-local-network

(I guess I'm just not a Home Group Evangelist - I'm not really
convinced there's an upside to playing with it... I'm a file
sharing guy. But at least that stuff has libraries as part of it.)

If you are the average, unknowing user, and have a need/desire to having
your W7, 8.1 & 10 computers networked, Homegroup seems to work very well.

My first experience with it was when W7 first came out, and I networked
my inlaws computers. Worked like a charm. What I don't like about it
is, the idea creates a public folder on each system, visible to all
systems in the Homegroup. To share a file, you put it in the public
folder. I immediately spotted the poor planning here, where the
originating user could end up with 2 or more copies of the same file on
their computer, as well as destroying any decent attempt at hard drive
organization.

That's not what I want, so like you, I do file sharing, workgroup, ET.
AL. Even that doesn't seem to work all that well with differing Windows
OSes.

As for greyed out Library and Other Libraries, I would like to thank
Microsoft for allowing me to lead us down an Effing rabbit hole. They
are nothing but "group names", rather like the group names you can have
in the W10 Start Menu. And they will always be greyed out.

MS's incessant removal of visual cues as to organization, poor
documentation, and probably some assumption that "people already know",
probably prompted this thread. There may also be issues with networking
W7 with other OSes, even Windows.

I realized what was going on last night when I thought I'd see how
things work in W10, after your comment about Other Libraries might
represent libraries on networked computers.

When I added my W7 music library to the W10 install, it displayed in
Other Libraries! Other Libraries remained greyed out. But, the W10
music library never displayed in W7. Media player 12 in both places.

This morning, I got a W7 laptop from the back room, connected to the
network, and exactly the same display issue.

The visual cue I was referring to is the connecting lines you
could/would see in Window Explorer in XP and earlier. If those were
connecting lines were still being used, this is what your would see in
the navigation pane, assuming everything worked correctly:

Library
|
|--Playlists
|--Music
| |
| |-- Artist
| |--Album
| |--Genre
|--Videos
|--Pictures
|--Recorded TV
|--Other Media
|
Other Libraries
|
|--Networked Computer 1
| |
| |--Music
| |--Videos
| |--Pictures
| |--Recorded TV
|
|--Networked Computer 2

The exact display will depend on the settings you make in configuring
the navigation pane. In this instance, I'm not sure what has to be shared.

One thing I found interesting, I've moved my user file storage from the
boot drive to a different drive. Everything is shared on the
"different" drive. Except... The users folder there was shared, but
not all subfolders were shared. For why, I don't know.

And, by golly, it works. At least in W10. In W10, I was playing one of
my experimental rips that reside on W7.




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Paul news Feb 2018 22:51:52 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

Ken Springer wrote:
A friend needs some help learning to rip CD's, so I'm to figure
out Media Player 12. I haven't ripped a CD since @2009, and I
didn't use Media Player back then.

For some reason, Library and Other Libraries are greyed out.

Everything I've found on the web has failed to work. Seems to be
a boatload of WMP 12 issues. What I've looked and and tried
includes, but is not limited to:

Removing and reinstalling
Group policy settings
Deleting and reinstalling the library

I read a lot of articles that looked promising based on title,
but part way through, you know it doesn't apply.

Suggestions? Ideas?

A company that loves DRM, and it has a rip CD button ? Who knew ?

It's a rather ****ty program for ripping cds, though.

https://web.archive.org/web/20091223...dows.microsoft
.com/en-US/windows7/Rip-music-from-a-CD

I actually own two CDs and I haven't done that. Am I missing
a lot of fun ?

In your case, probably not. In my case, I've had a blast ripping my
music and converting it to portable friendly formats. I can take it
with me, don't have to worry about scratching a disc and/or someone
getting a case of sticky fingers. Since my collection is well
preserved on the network, I can rock out anywhere in the house, or,
as I said, take music with me. No need to stream, run my cell battery
down, etc, while doing so, either.

For some reason, this comes to mind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exact_Audio_Copy

It's the bomb. Atleast the older versions were. They'd rip some so
called 'copy protected' cds that were actually multi session and/or
multi session with some erroneous information designed to mess with
the optical drive in a computer, but thanks to the really dumb nature
of a standard optical drive in your cd player; appear to be totally
fine. I also found it amusing that some of these copy protected audio
cds made life hell for mac users upon insertion. Not by succesfully
installing any code, but by essentially locking up the optical drive
and the OS along with it; requiring the cd to be removed via a
teardown. I'm sure apple has by now corrected that hilarious method
of mac misfortune. rofl. Just think of the money some mac lovers
could have saved had apple thought there was a need for a physical
eject override. Like you'd find on nearly any pc with an optical
drive.

An override that responded to say something as simple as a
paperclip....LOL



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On 2/20/18 9:17 PM, Diesel wrote:
I also found it amusing that some of these copy protected audio
cds made life hell for mac users upon insertion. Not by succesfully
installing any code, but by essentially locking up the optical drive
and the OS along with it; requiring the cd to be removed via a
teardown. I'm sure apple has by now corrected that hilarious method
of mac misfortune. rofl. Just think of the money some mac lovers
could have saved had apple thought there was a need for a physical
eject override. Like you'd find on nearly any pc with an optical
drive.

HI, Diesel,

I've had this happen with some DVD's. But, the disk can be ejected
during bootup.

FWIW, some Dell laptops used the same optical drives.

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Ken Springer news6ka7v$n82$1
@news.albasani.net Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:28:30 GMT in
alt.windows7.general, wrote:

On 2/20/18 9:17 PM, Diesel wrote:
I also found it amusing that some of these copy protected audio
cds made life hell for mac users upon insertion. Not by
succesfully
installing any code, but by essentially locking up the optical
drive
and the OS along with it; requiring the cd to be removed via a
teardown. I'm sure apple has by now corrected that hilarious
method
of mac misfortune. rofl. Just think of the money some mac lovers
could have saved had apple thought there was a need for a physical
eject override. Like you'd find on nearly any pc with an optical
drive.

HI, Diesel,

I've had this happen with some DVD's. But, the disk can be ejected
during bootup.

I didn't know some DVDs could essentially duplicate the effect. Good
to know you can eject it during bootup though. It's been a very long
time, but, I don't think you could eject one of these special audio
cds during bootup...I've no idea if it was mac version specific
though?

FWIW, some Dell laptops used the same optical drives.

Yep. But, you aren't going to lock the entire machine up just by
inserting one of those discs. Well, in most cases. Depends on what
the multi session has in mind for the Dell and if autorun is enabled.




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On 2/24/18 2:06 PM, Diesel wrote:
Ken Springer news6ka7v$n82$1
@news.albasani.net Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:28:30 GMT in
alt.windows7.general, wrote:

On 2/20/18 9:17 PM, Diesel wrote:
I also found it amusing that some of these copy protected audio
cds made life hell for mac users upon insertion. Not by
succesfully
installing any code, but by essentially locking up the optical
drive
and the OS along with it; requiring the cd to be removed via a
teardown. I'm sure apple has by now corrected that hilarious
method
of mac misfortune. rofl. Just think of the money some mac lovers
could have saved had apple thought there was a need for a physical
eject override. Like you'd find on nearly any pc with an optical
drive.

HI, Diesel,

I've had this happen with some DVD's. But, the disk can be ejected
during bootup.

I didn't know some DVDs could essentially duplicate the effect. Good
to know you can eject it during bootup though. It's been a very long
time, but, I don't think you could eject one of these special audio
cds during bootup...I've no idea if it was mac version specific
though?

I have no idea either.

FWIW, some Dell laptops used the same optical drives.

Yep. But, you aren't going to lock the entire machine up just by
inserting one of those discs. Well, in most cases. Depends on what
the multi session has in mind for the Dell and if autorun is enabled.






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Firefox 53.0.2 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 52.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"