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Why I no Longer Use Windows 7.
On 10/24/2010 2:57 PM, Glenn Hall wrote:
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:27:46 -0500, Steel wrote: You do know that buying a computer from a business perspective is an expenditure that can be written off. Of course, but when a company is sturggling to produce product upgrading their computer systems which may have been upgraded 3 years ago becomes less of a priority. I have not seen one yet. And the companies are moving to newer versions. I see companies going to Vista and Win 7 as I contract in them. Vista and Win 7 were big jumps over XP under the hood and they are better protected O/S(s) than XP. I saw very little movement to Vista but Windows 7 planned upgrades seem to be doing better. Still it's much slower than in the past as people and companies keep their hardware and software longer. I think this is due to the hype of them not knowing the differences between Vista and Win 7 to the prior open by default versions of the O/S(s0 People can't buy a new computer right now, a whole lot of them, and they are not going to Linux. If they buy a new computer, they are still not going to Linux. It's that simple. If they were going to Linux, they (the masses) would have been using it long ago. That's because Windows is force fed to them and they don't know any differently. Business is business. If Linux could do the same, which seems it's trying to do but failing, it would be done using Linux. Linux isn't for everyone but it can do most of what Windows can do and it can do it with better security and less cost. And it's not happening that people are going to Linux in mass. Your bet hinges upon the world economy damn near collapsing, before Linux is accepted by the masses. It's not going to happen. The world economy almost collapsed last year. Last year? No I don't think so. The melt-down happened well over a year ago. It still may happen. Whether it will result in people switching to Linux I don't know. I doubt it though as being able to find food and shelter is going to be the big problem. I look at things being half full on the positive side. |
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Why I no Longer Use Windows 7.
On 10/24/2010 3:29 PM, Glenn Hall wrote:
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 21:50:52 +0200, Clogwog wrote: In short: A happy windows user, like 90% of desktop computer users worldwide! Happy because they are ignorant and don't know any better. They think constantly rebooting, virus problems and so forth are normal. It's like a guy who has been wearing $99.00 suits all his life and is happy. Put him in a $1000.00 suit and he will be happier. Linux doesn't cost a $1,000. I think there are a lot of people who are not ignorant, and they have no need for Linux. If they don't have a need or want for Linux, it's called freedom of choice. The choose not to use Linux. |
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Why I no Longer Use Windows 7.
On 10/24/2010 3:45 PM, RonB wrote:
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:18:09 -0500, Bob I wrote: Funny how in the past year with the "economy tanking" Linutz has gone from 1.00% in November 2009 to 0.85% September 2010. that equates to a 15% drop in installs/usage in 10 months. (you can track it at "netmarket share") If there has been a drop in Linux usage (I doubt it) it's because Asus and several other netbook manufacturers bowed to Microsoft pressure and turned their SSD netbooks into small (and more expensive) notebooks. But basically I think it comes down to "figures don't lie, but liars figure." Make no mistake about it, Ron Bambi is one of the biggest lairs in COLA. |
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Why I no Longer Use Windows 7.
On 10/24/2010 3:38 PM, RonB wrote:
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:40:32 -0500, Bob I wrote: Speaking of economy, over at Dell, the cost to "offer Linutz" is higher than reloading Windows 7 OEM. Same netbook was 20 bucks cheaper if you bought it with Windows 7. If you were adamant about having Linutz, it's cheaper to buy the Win7 one and reload it yourself. Never used "Linutz" -- you're pet name for Windows 7 Basic, or something? He has no comeback, so he spins it - typical COLA. |
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Why I no Longer Use Windows 7.
On 10/24/2010 3:40 PM, RonB wrote:
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 15:57:10 -0400, Glenn Hall wrote: The world economy almost collapsed last year. It still may happen. Whether it will result in people switching to Linux I don't know. I doubt it though as being able to find food and shelter is going to be the big problem. People would just pirate Windows, like they do now. If Microsoft could really stop people pirating their software, that would be more damaging to their "market share" than about anything else. Yeah, spoken like a true thief. He can run down to WalMart and steal too. If one can't get it for free, then by all means steal it. I bet he has picked himself out a nice outfit or two in his thieving lifetime. |
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Why I no Longer Use Windows 7.
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 12:21:37 -0400, One Shot - One Kill wrote:
I never knew that only republicans buy computers with Windows preloaded. I've personally seen a trend (highly unscientific, as it's just my friends on Facebook and MySpace) towards Republicans buying more Apple computers. They don't want to be seen as supporting the liberal-slanted MSNBC cable channel with their purchase of Windows. |
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Why I no Longer Use Windows 7.
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:55:57 +0200, Alias wrote:
On 10/24/2010 06:47 PM, One Shot - One Kill wrote: they do not have to monitor "the entire web" - ever hear of something called statistics? probably not since it involves math that is beyond your ability. Of course I have and I know they can be manipulated to tell you just about anything. Some of my favorites were put out by the tobacco companies, 9 out of 10 doctors recommend Kools. As a collector of old time radio shows, I love listening to the misinformation from the cigarette ads: Chesterfields: Clinically proven to leave no damaging throat irritation! Camels: More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette. Lucky Strike: Her singing coach advised a light smoke. Lucky Strike: Toasting the tobacco removes dangerous irritants that cause throat irritation and coughing. Tipalet: Blow in her face and she'll follow you anywhere. Viceroy: As your dentist, I would recommend Viceroys Mecca: Where was Moses when the lights went out? Groping for a pack of Meccas! And there are still people who believe that the link between smoking and lung diseases is unproven, and just a bunch of political hogwash. |
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Why I no Longer Use Windows 7.
"An Old Friend" wrote in message news On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:55:57 +0200, Alias wrote: On 10/24/2010 06:47 PM, One Shot - One Kill wrote: they do not have to monitor "the entire web" - ever hear of something called statistics? probably not since it involves math that is beyond your ability. Of course I have and I know they can be manipulated to tell you just about anything. Some of my favorites were put out by the tobacco companies, 9 out of 10 doctors recommend Kools. As a collector of old time radio shows, I love listening to the misinformation from the cigarette ads: Chesterfields: Clinically proven to leave no damaging throat irritation! Camels: More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette. Lucky Strike: Her singing coach advised a light smoke. Lucky Strike: Toasting the tobacco removes dangerous irritants that cause throat irritation and coughing. Tipalet: Blow in her face and she'll follow you anywhere. Viceroy: As your dentist, I would recommend Viceroys Mecca: Where was Moses when the lights went out? Groping for a pack of Meccas! And there are still people who believe that the link between smoking and lung diseases is unproven, and just a bunch of political hogwash. so smarty pants, which of your quotes is an example of someone misusing statistics? they all sound like shady testimonials and claims to me. not a single one of them is a misapplied statistic. then again, this is probably beyond your ability to comprehend. |
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Why I no Longer Use Windows 7.
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:23:58 -0400, One Shot - One Kill wrote:
"An Old Friend" wrote in message news On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:55:57 +0200, Alias wrote: On 10/24/2010 06:47 PM, One Shot - One Kill wrote: they do not have to monitor "the entire web" - ever hear of something called statistics? probably not since it involves math that is beyond your ability. Of course I have and I know they can be manipulated to tell you just about anything. Some of my favorites were put out by the tobacco companies, 9 out of 10 doctors recommend Kools. As a collector of old time radio shows, I love listening to the misinformation from the cigarette ads: Chesterfields: Clinically proven to leave no damaging throat irritation! Camels: More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette. Lucky Strike: Her singing coach advised a light smoke. Lucky Strike: Toasting the tobacco removes dangerous irritants that cause throat irritation and coughing. Tipalet: Blow in her face and she'll follow you anywhere. Viceroy: As your dentist, I would recommend Viceroys Mecca: Where was Moses when the lights went out? Groping for a pack of Meccas! And there are still people who believe that the link between smoking and lung diseases is unproven, and just a bunch of political hogwash. so smarty pants, which of your quotes is an example of someone misusing statistics? they all sound like shady testimonials and claims to me. not a single one of them is a misapplied statistic. then again, this is probably beyond your ability to comprehend. Where did *I* say someone was misusing statistics? I was talking about the general misinformation contained in those radio ads. |
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Why I no Longer Use Windows 7.
On 10/24/2010 07:24 PM, One Shot - One Kill wrote:
wrote in message ... On 10/24/2010 07:15 PM, One Shot - One Kill wrote: The usual Windroid bull****. You've become a windroid bore. I'm through with you as you are obviously logic impaired. in the time honored tradition of true idiots and cowards - you snip away everything I posted, declare some sort of "victory" by tossing random insults and run away. I feel sorry for a bitter little person like you. That doesn't make you any less logic impaired. -- Alias |
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Another linux advocate runs away (was Why I no Longer Use Windows7.)
On 10/24/2010 07:28 PM, One Shot - One Kill wrote:
wrote in message ... On 10/24/2010 07:15 PM, One Shot - One Kill wrote: The usual Windroid bull****. You've become a windroid bore. I'm through with you as you are obviously logic impaired. a quick summary of the entire thread alias - it's impossible to know linux usage because linux is free Not what I said. me - web stats count usage regardless of price (ask Firefox) Yes, you can't state what web sites are used for the so-called stats. alias - web stats are being manipulated and are lies You're that naive? me - any proof for your claim. No need. Stats have been used for ages to "prove" what wants to prove. alias - post some random insults, snip my posts, claim victory and run away. No, I told the truth: you have a reading comprehension problem and are logic impaired, two reasons why "debating" with you is a useless endeavor. alias is another snip and run coward. I didn't run anywhere. alias is a linux "advocate" I am a Linux user. I also use Windows. I advocate each for different reasons. You're a hopeless windroid looking for a fight. -- Alias |
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Why I no Longer Use Windows 7.
On 10/24/2010 08:39 PM, Big Steel wrote:
On 10/24/2010 11:14 AM, Alias wrote: On 10/24/2010 06:06 PM, Quantum Leaper wrote: Alias wrote: On 10/24/2010 04:17 PM, Quantum Leaper wrote: I am glad you like Linux but most people don't upgrade the OS other than getting a new Computer. I assume you mean most people in the USA. Here in Spain, most people buy computers to order unless it's a laptop and I know many people who own laptops and the first thing they did was nuke Windows and install Linux. If that was the truth, then way does Linux have less then 5% of the desktops? Let's see, how did you come up with that figure? Supposedly, there are about 1 billion computers on line in the world which would mean, according to your figures, that there a 50 million Linux users. Fact is, however, that no one knows how many Linux installs there are because Linux doesn't need to be activated or become "genuine" and there are no store receipts to count like there is with Windows. I suspect if you take the stats of the backwards USA out of the picture, the user share for Linux would be much higher. After all, only the USA could have such ignorant, biased bigots running for congress like there are today. Those same supporters of Beck, Limbaugh, Palin, O'Donnell and Rand Paul don't know any better than to order a computer from Best Buy with Windows preloaded. You're blowing smoke here and doing a spin. Just the other damn day, you were blabbering the Linux had 30% of the market, if the US was not in the goddamn picture nonsense bull****. The US is NOT going away, and there is NOT a goddamn thing you can do about it. You choke on it Spanish Drip you ****ing choke on it Poppy. It's his figures. Take it up with him. -- Alias |
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Why I no Longer Use Windows 7.
On 10/24/2010 09:04 PM, Bob I wrote:
On 10/24/2010 11:06, Quantum Leaper wrote: Alias wrote: On 10/24/2010 04:17 PM, Quantum Leaper wrote: I am glad you like Linux but most people don't upgrade the OS other than getting a new Computer. I assume you mean most people in the USA. Here in Spain, most people buy computers to order unless it's a laptop and I know many people who own laptops and the first thing they did was nuke Windows and install Linux. If that was the truth, then way does Linux have less then 5% of the desktops? Only reason to "nuke" Windows and install Linutz is that the Windows installation was pirated, and the user wasn't bright enough to turn in the pirate business that sold the computer. No, dumb ****, to buy a laptop without Windows is a bit difficult. -- Alias |
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Why I no Longer Use Windows 7.
On 10/24/2010 08:31 PM, Big Steel wrote:
On 10/24/2010 9:53 AM, Alias wrote: On 10/24/2010 04:17 PM, Quantum Leaper wrote: I am glad you like Linux but most people don't upgrade the OS other than getting a new Computer. I assume you mean most people in the USA. Here in Spain, most people buy computers to order unless it's a laptop and I know many people who own laptops and the first thing they did was nuke Windows and install Linux. Who cares about Spain? Spain is nothing. It proved that it was nothing the moment it tucked its tail between its legs and ran after the terrorist attack. Unlike the USA, Spain caught 100% of the people who bombed Madrid. So far, the USA has caught *one* person that was involved with 9/11. I feel safer in Spain that has been dealing with Muslims for hundreds of years than in some country that may elect Sarah Palin to be their next president, thank you very much. Leaving the illegal war in Iraq was the sensible thing to do. Making up lies like WMD and attacking a country based on those lies is what, hot shot, bravery? -- Alias |
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Why I no Longer Use Windows 7.
On 10/24/2010 10:52 PM, Big Steel wrote:
On 10/24/2010 3:29 PM, Glenn Hall wrote: On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 21:50:52 +0200, Clogwog wrote: In short: A happy windows user, like 90% of desktop computer users worldwide! Happy because they are ignorant and don't know any better. They think constantly rebooting, virus problems and so forth are normal. It's like a guy who has been wearing $99.00 suits all his life and is happy. Put him in a $1000.00 suit and he will be happier. Linux doesn't cost a $1,000. That would almost be enough for two Office 2010 Ultimate licenses. I think there are a lot of people who are not ignorant, and they have no need for Linux. If they don't have a need or want for Linux, it's called freedom of choice. The choose not to use Linux. I have a question for you. How come Linux was never mentioned in the XP newsgroup? Could it possibly be that it's become more popular since then? Considering that Linux is not mass media advertised like Windows and Mac, it most certainly has come and is going a long way. -- Alias |
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