Losing Shares

No not the stock market! but a friend is having a problem with a new
Verbatim USB 250 GB drive
http://www.verbatim.com.au/en_AU/pro...rive-usb-250gb
formatted as NTFS. Operating system XP professional with SP2 installed with
a wired network.

There are several shared folders without any restrictions on the drive
containing video files etc. They are accessible when he turns on his
Beyonwiz PVR P1 . http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/DP_P1_overview.asp ie he can
play files over the network.

The problem arises if he safely removes the USB drive from the computer,
turns off the computer; the next day when he turns on the computer and then
plugs in the drive the shares have been lost, so he has to re-establish
them.

If he leaves the USB drive connected to the computer and then turns on, the
shares remain. It seems Windows XP is forgetting the shares or a hidden
file? is not being written to the drive?

I have an almost identical set up and have no problems - I regularly remove
my home assembled USB drive, cart it around town, plug it back in and all of
my shared folders are still there and available to my Beyonwiz PVR P1.

His network settings and router are the same as mine.. any thoughts?

"Fred Pickering" wrote in message
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No not the stock market! but a friend is having a problem with a new
Verbatim USB 250 GB drive
http://www.verbatim.com.au/en_AU/pro...rive-usb-250gb
formatted as NTFS. Operating system XP professional with SP2 installed
with a wired network.

There are several shared folders without any restrictions on the drive
containing video files etc. They are accessible when he turns on his
Beyonwiz PVR P1 . http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/DP_P1_overview.asp ie he can
play files over the network.

The problem arises if he safely removes the USB drive from the computer,
turns off the computer; the next day when he turns on the computer and
then plugs in the drive the shares have been lost, so he has to
re-establish them.

If he leaves the USB drive connected to the computer and then turns on,
the shares remain. It seems Windows XP is forgetting the shares or a
hidden file? is not being written to the drive?

I have an almost identical set up and have no problems - I regularly
remove my home assembled USB drive, cart it around town, plug it back in
and all of my shared folders are still there and available to my Beyonwiz
PVR P1.

His network settings and router are the same as mine.. any thoughts?



Shares details are kept he
hklm/system/currentcontrolset/services/lanmanserver/shares. I would keep an
eye on this key. I would also check the Event Viewer.

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"Fred Pickering" wrote in message
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No not the stock market! but a friend is having a problem with a new
Verbatim USB 250 GB drive
http://www.verbatim.com.au/en_AU/pro...rive-usb-250gb
formatted as NTFS. Operating system XP professional with SP2 installed
with a wired network.

There are several shared folders without any restrictions on the drive
containing video files etc. They are accessible when he turns on his
Beyonwiz PVR P1 . http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/DP_P1_overview.asp ie he
can play files over the network.

The problem arises if he safely removes the USB drive from the computer,
turns off the computer; the next day when he turns on the computer and
then plugs in the drive the shares have been lost, so he has to
re-establish them.

If he leaves the USB drive connected to the computer and then turns on,
the shares remain. It seems Windows XP is forgetting the shares or a
hidden file? is not being written to the drive?

I have an almost identical set up and have no problems - I regularly
remove my home assembled USB drive, cart it around town, plug it back in
and all of my shared folders are still there and available to my Beyonwiz
PVR P1.

His network settings and router are the same as mine.. any thoughts?



Shares details are kept he
hklm/system/currentcontrolset/services/lanmanserver/shares. I would keep
an eye on this key. I would also check the Event Viewer.

Many many thanks for this info - this seems to be the first answer I have
received that makes sense. The next step when i get the chance to drive down
to my friends place (well out of town) is to find out why presumably his
computer is not saving his shares? An example of mine that works without any
issues listed below.

Value 17

Name: My_Movies

Type: REG_MULTI_SZ

Data: CSCFlags=0

MaxUses=4294967295

Path=H:\My_Movies (note this is a removable USB drive)

Permissions=0

Remark=

Type=0

"Fred Pickering" wrote in message
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"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote in message
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"Fred Pickering" wrote in message
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No not the stock market! but a friend is having a problem with a new
Verbatim USB 250 GB drive
http://www.verbatim.com.au/en_AU/pro...rive-usb-250gb
formatted as NTFS. Operating system XP professional with SP2 installed
with a wired network.

There are several shared folders without any restrictions on the drive
containing video files etc. They are accessible when he turns on his
Beyonwiz PVR P1 . http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/DP_P1_overview.asp ie he
can play files over the network.

The problem arises if he safely removes the USB drive from the computer,
turns off the computer; the next day when he turns on the computer and
then plugs in the drive the shares have been lost, so he has to
re-establish them.

If he leaves the USB drive connected to the computer and then turns on,
the shares remain. It seems Windows XP is forgetting the shares or a
hidden file? is not being written to the drive?

I have an almost identical set up and have no problems - I regularly
remove my home assembled USB drive, cart it around town, plug it back in
and all of my shared folders are still there and available to my
Beyonwiz PVR P1.

His network settings and router are the same as mine.. any thoughts?



Shares details are kept he
hklm/system/currentcontrolset/services/lanmanserver/shares. I would keep
an eye on this key. I would also check the Event Viewer.

Many many thanks for this info - this seems to be the first answer I have
received that makes sense. The next step when i get the chance to drive
down to my friends place (well out of town) is to find out why presumably
his computer is not saving his shares? An example of mine that works
without any issues listed below.

Value 17
Name: My_Movies
Type: REG_MULTI_SZ
Data: CSCFlags=0
MaxUses=4294967295
Path=H:\My_Movies (note this is a removable USB drive)
Permissions=0
Remark=
Type=0


Until you can resolve the issue you can give your friend a work-around in
the form of a shortcut that executes the following command:
net.exe use S: \\ComputerName\ShareName\FolderName. A couple of additional
remarks:
- After re-reading your initial post I'm no longer sure which PC hosts the
share, to which one the USB disk is connected and which one tries to access
the share.
- I wonder if you have network shares competing for the same drive letters
as your USB drives. This is likely to cause problems. Current practice says
that USB drives should use the low letters of the alphabet and network
shares should use the high end.

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote in message
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"Fred Pickering" wrote in message
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"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote in message
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"Fred Pickering" wrote in message
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No not the stock market! but a friend is having a problem with a new
Verbatim USB 250 GB drive
http://www.verbatim.com.au/en_AU/pro...rive-usb-250gb
formatted as NTFS. Operating system XP professional with SP2 installed
with a wired network.

There are several shared folders without any restrictions on the drive
containing video files etc. They are accessible when he turns on his
Beyonwiz PVR P1 . http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/DP_P1_overview.asp ie he
can play files over the network.

The problem arises if he safely removes the USB drive from the
computer, turns off the computer; the next day when he turns on the
computer and then plugs in the drive the shares have been lost, so he
has to re-establish them.

If he leaves the USB drive connected to the computer and then turns on,
the shares remain. It seems Windows XP is forgetting the shares or a
hidden file? is not being written to the drive?

I have an almost identical set up and have no problems - I regularly
remove my home assembled USB drive, cart it around town, plug it back
in and all of my shared folders are still there and available to my
Beyonwiz PVR P1.

His network settings and router are the same as mine.. any thoughts?



Shares details are kept he
hklm/system/currentcontrolset/services/lanmanserver/shares. I would keep
an eye on this key. I would also check the Event Viewer.

Many many thanks for this info - this seems to be the first answer I have
received that makes sense. The next step when i get the chance to drive
down to my friends place (well out of town) is to find out why
presumably his computer is not saving his shares? An example of mine that
works without any issues listed below.

Value 17
Name: My_Movies
Type: REG_MULTI_SZ
Data: CSCFlags=0
MaxUses=4294967295
Path=H:\My_Movies (note this is a removable USB drive)
Permissions=0
Remark=
Type=0


Until you can resolve the issue you can give your friend a work-around in
the form of a shortcut that executes the following command:
net.exe use S: \\ComputerName\ShareName\FolderName. A couple of
additional remarks:
- After re-reading your initial post I'm no longer sure which PC hosts the
share, to which one the USB disk is connected and which one tries to
access the share.
- I wonder if you have network shares competing for the same drive letters
as your USB drives. This is likely to cause problems. Current practice
says that USB drives should use the low letters of the alphabet and
network shares should use the high end.
Thanks for that - he uses the USB disk to both receive new files (he is a
stage producer and looks at a lot of audition material) and then plays back
via his Beyonwiz PVR the files. So the "network" is very simple indeed - the
computer is in one room and the Beyonwiz about 10 metres away in another,
connected via a network cable. I'm just wondering if when he brought the
disk to my place new I checked it and formatted NTFS for him and then I
tested it with my Beyonwiz, so I set up a shared folder to do so. My friend
rang me when he got home to say the share didn't work and i explained to him
that he would have to set up the shares himself, a long pause and a feeling
of dread! anyway over the phone I was able to talk him through the process
and it worked. His system (which I built) is almost a clone of mine without
the extra bells and whistles so my production video playback harddisk is my
designated H drive same as his (I also have a G drive full of my own music
compositions which is also shared over my 2 x PC, 1 x MAC G5 and 2 x
Beyonwiz PVR's) and as I've said I move both my G and H drive around town in
an out of various studios etc without any problems.

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"Fred Pickering" wrote in message
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No not the stock market! but a friend is having a problem with a new
Verbatim USB 250 GB drive
http://www.verbatim.com.au/en_AU/pro...rive-usb-250gb
formatted as NTFS. Operating system XP professional with SP2 installed
with a wired network.

There are several shared folders without any restrictions on the drive
containing video files etc. They are accessible when he turns on his
Beyonwiz PVR P1 . http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/DP_P1_overview.asp ie he
can play files over the network.

The problem arises if he safely removes the USB drive from the
computer, turns off the computer; the next day when he turns on the
computer and then plugs in the drive the shares have been lost, so he
has to re-establish them.

If he leaves the USB drive connected to the computer and then turns
on, the shares remain. It seems Windows XP is forgetting the shares or
a hidden file? is not being written to the drive?

I have an almost identical set up and have no problems - I regularly
remove my home assembled USB drive, cart it around town, plug it back
in and all of my shared folders are still there and available to my
Beyonwiz PVR P1.

His network settings and router are the same as mine.. any thoughts?



Shares details are kept he
hklm/system/currentcontrolset/services/lanmanserver/shares. I would
keep an eye on this key. I would also check the Event Viewer.

Many many thanks for this info - this seems to be the first answer I
have received that makes sense. The next step when i get the chance to
drive down to my friends place (well out of town) is to find out why
presumably his computer is not saving his shares? An example of mine
that works without any issues listed below.

Value 17
Name: My_Movies
Type: REG_MULTI_SZ
Data: CSCFlags=0
MaxUses=4294967295
Path=H:\My_Movies (note this is a removable USB drive)
Permissions=0
Remark=
Type=0


Until you can resolve the issue you can give your friend a work-around in
the form of a shortcut that executes the following command:
net.exe use S: \\ComputerName\ShareName\FolderName. A couple of
additional remarks:
- After re-reading your initial post I'm no longer sure which PC hosts
the share, to which one the USB disk is connected and which one tries to
access the share.
- I wonder if you have network shares competing for the same drive
letters as your USB drives. This is likely to cause problems. Current
practice says that USB drives should use the low letters of the alphabet
and network shares should use the high end.
Thanks for that - he uses the USB disk to both receive new files (he is a
stage producer and looks at a lot of audition material) and then plays
back via his Beyonwiz PVR the files. So the "network" is very simple
indeed - the computer is in one room and the Beyonwiz about 10 metres away
in another, connected via a network cable. I'm just wondering if when he
brought the disk to my place new I checked it and formatted NTFS for him
and then I tested it with my Beyonwiz, so I set up a shared folder to do
so. My friend rang me when he got home to say the share didn't work and i
explained to him that he would have to set up the shares himself, a long
pause and a feeling of dread! anyway over the phone I was able to talk him
through the process and it worked. His system (which I built) is almost a
clone of mine without the extra bells and whistles so my production video
playback harddisk is my designated H drive same as his (I also have a G
drive full of my own music compositions which is also shared over my 2 x
PC, 1 x MAC G5 and 2 x Beyonwiz PVR's) and as I've said I move both my G
and H drive around town in an out of various studios etc without any
problems.

I assume you're saying that the problem is now resolved.

..

I assume you're saying that the problem is now resolved.

We are getting there Pegasus - I received this email from my friend

quote: " visited the Event Viewer Systems and found 5 Warning messages have
been present on bootups

The server service was unable to recreate the share NewScripts because the
directory F:\NewScripts no longer exists. Please run "net share NewScripts
/delete" to delete the share, or recreate the directory F:\NewScripts.
This was the same for the F: \Inprogress... Drama etc

I ran commands as told for each of the 5 share directory warnings and there
have been no warnings in Event Viewer Systems since.

I take from this something is being saved in registry for shares on this
computer...

I would appreciate guidance in looking, fixing etc the registry for the
actual share entries.... end quote

Once again many thanks for the info on this and I'm pleased that my friend
who is not really that computer literate is taking the initiative in this
matter..

"Fred Pickering" wrote in message
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.

I assume you're saying that the problem is now resolved.

We are getting there Pegasus - I received this email from my friend

quote: " visited the Event Viewer Systems and found 5 Warning messages
have been present on bootups

The server service was unable to recreate the share NewScripts because
the directory F:\NewScripts no longer exists. Please run "net share
NewScripts /delete" to delete the share, or recreate the directory
F:\NewScripts.
This was the same for the F: \Inprogress... Drama etc

I ran commands as told for each of the 5 share directory warnings and
there have been no warnings in Event Viewer Systems since.

I take from this something is being saved in registry for shares on this
computer...

I would appreciate guidance in looking, fixing etc the registry for the
actual share entries.... end quote

Once again many thanks for the info on this and I'm pleased that my friend
who is not really that computer literate is taking the initiative in this
matter..


Mmh, well. The event viewer message you saw is there by design. It tells you
that the NewScripts share could not be created because the F:\NewScripts
does not exist. If the folder F:\NewScripts resides on the USB drive then
deleting the share manually tends to generate exactly the problem that is
the subject of your post. In other words, if you want the share NewScripts
to point to F:\NewScripts whenever the USB disk is connected then deleting
the NewScripts share might be somewhat counterproductive . . .