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Need to know if this site shows as insecure in Internet Explorer
https://mywater.kcmo.org/cus/mcuslogin.jsp
Shows as having a certificate from an unknown issuer in Pale Moon on Windows 8.1. The Firefox users I've asked over on Mozilla's news server are here and there with their answers-mostly because I inadvertently gave them a partial URL instead of the full one to the login page, giving most of them blank screens. I corrected it in a later post but no one picked up on it again. Anyway, I'd appreciate any of you trying to hit the URL as I've given it here and letting me know if IE has any issues with its security. Trying to decide whether to bypass the error or not. |
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Need to know if this site shows as insecure in Internet Explorer
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 15:06:15 -0500, none wrote:
https://mywater.kcmo.org/cus/mcuslogin.jsp Shows as having a certificate from an unknown issuer in Pale Moon on Windows 8.1. No error here in IE or Firefox. Here are the certificate details Screen-shot --- https://i.imgur.com/9jcx0mN.png Check Pale Moon's certificate store to see whether it has the right CA certificates. The Firefox users I've asked over on Mozilla's news server are here and there with their answers-mostly because I inadvertently gave them a partial URL instead of the full one to the login page, giving most of them blank screens. I corrected it in a later post but no one picked up on it again. Anyway, I'd appreciate any of you trying to hit the URL as I've given it here and letting me know if IE has any issues with its security. Trying to decide whether to bypass the error or not. -- Kind regards Ralph |
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Got it sorted (Was: Need to know if this site shows as insecurein Internet Explorer)
On 06/23/2018 15:47, Ralph Fox wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 15:06:15 -0500, none wrote: https://mywater.kcmo.org/cus/mcuslogin.jsp No error here in IE or Firefox. Check Pale Moon's certificate store to see whether it has the right CA certificates. As far as it goes you were right-it doesn't. I went and did some more homework. Pale Moon throws an error because the site doesn't send the intermediate certificate that it's supposed to, which leaves the certificate chain incomplete. You didn't see that in Internet Explorer because IE supports Authority Information Access fetching-it grabs the missing cert from the CA to complete the chain. Firefox and Pale Moon (which is forked from Firefox) don't support AIA (another childish spat between alternative browser and website developers that leaves end users in the lurch and drives more and more of them back to IE). Anyway, I was able to manually retrieve and install the cert by looking at the AIA URL on the certificate. Now I can pay my water bills online again. Thanks, Ralph for trying to help. |
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Got it sorted (Was: Need to know if this site shows as insecure in Internet Explorer)
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 16:38:24 -0500, none wrote:
that leaves end users in the lurch and drives more and more of them back to IE Users are going to Chrome, not to IE. Chrome has around 60% of the desktop browser market share. IE is under 10% and declining. Times have changed. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...901-201707.png -- Kind regards Ralph 🦊 |
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Got it sorted (Was: Need to know if this site shows as insecure in Internet Explorer)
On 23 Jun 2018, Ralph Fox wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8: Users are going to Chrome, not to IE. Chrome has around 60% of the desktop browser market share. IE is under 10% and declining. Times have changed. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...901-201707.png I'm sorry to hear that. I quite dislike Chrome, though I use it on one of my computers because it seems to use slightly less resources than my first choice, Firefox. I find Chrome to be more annoying and less functional than most other browsers. Not to mention the Google privacy questions... |
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Got it sorted (Was: Need to know if this site shows as insecure in Internet Explorer)
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 21:34:55 -0400, Nil wrote:
On 23 Jun 2018, Ralph Fox wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-8: Users are going to Chrome, not to IE. Chrome has around 60% of the desktop browser market share. IE is under 10% and declining. Times have changed. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...901-201707.png I'm sorry to hear that. Google ran what has proven to be an effective campaign to push Chrome, on several fronts (including drive-by downloads). I quite dislike Chrome, though I use it on one of my computers because it seems to use slightly less resources than my first choice, Firefox. I used to use K-Meleon for this reason. Unfortunately the latest stable release is nearly 3 years old. http://kmeleonbrowser.org/ I find Chrome to be more annoying and less functional than most other browsers. I have heaps of bookmarks, and I much prefer Firefox for this. Not to mention the Google privacy questions... For this, look at one of the alternative Chromium builds such as SRWare Iron. http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php -- Kind regards Ralph 🗺ï¸ï¼·ðŸ•¸ï¸ |
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Got it sorted (Was: Need to know if this site shows as insecurein Internet Explorer)
KenW wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 21:34:55 -0400, Nil wrote: On 23 Jun 2018, Ralph Fox wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-8: Users are going to Chrome, not to IE. Chrome has around 60% of the desktop browser market share. IE is under 10% and declining. Times have changed. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...901-201707.png I'm sorry to hear that. I quite dislike Chrome, though I use it on one of my computers because it seems to use slightly less resources than my first choice, Firefox. I find Chrome to be more annoying and less functional than most other browsers. Not to mention the Google privacy questions... If you are worried about privacy, stay off of the net PERIOD. Since switching from FF to Chrome, I haven't had a site not render correctly. KenW That's not the question though. If I visit Newegg and look for a product like say a SATA cable, then visit my favorite news site, should I be confronted with a 6" x 2" banner advert from Newegg, full of SATA cables ? Some of these banner adverts packed full of images of stuff, are sucking the life out of the browser, and you can barely scroll. The adverts got there by tracking. Tracking that's very difficult to get rid of. All it takes is your browser logging into Google and collecting info for "places.sqlite" or the like, to identify who you are, and bring back the Newegg adverts again. That's because just as many Google cookies are used to track you as Newegg cookies. It's one thing for Newegg to keep a cookie and show me SATA cables the next time I visit Newegg. It's another to turn my browser usage into a constant barrage of Newegg adverts. Paul |
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Got it sorted (Was: Need to know if this site shows as insecure in Internet Explorer)
On 23 Jun 2018, KenW
wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-8: If you are worried about privacy, stay off of the net PERIOD. Irrelevant and illogical. If you have no questions about internet privacy, you are sadly naive. And if you do have questions, please take your own advice immediately. Since switching from FF to Chrome, I haven't had a site not render correctly. Also irrelevant. Since using Firefox I haven't had a site not render correctly. |
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