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Old December 7th 17, 04:48 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Char Jackson
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On Wed, 06 Dec 2017 17:58:40 -0500, Paul wrote:

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Using Thunderbird 52.5 in Windows 10, I have one company that is
consistently sending me E-mail, The company is called Wayfair.ca, they
are an online furniture company, I have created rules from a message
numerous times, I have added them to my hosts file but they still keep
coming through. my hosts file seems OK as I can no longer reach there
web site
They are very annoying as they send them every few days.
Is there any way I can stop them once and for all.

Thanks, Rene


Mail takes an indirect route. It uses servers. The
servers talk to one another.

transport
some_server ------------- some_server
/ \
/ \
wayfair.ca rene.ca

So in that diagram, adding wayfair.ca to your HOSTS
file, won't do anything. Because a packet didn't come
straight from wayfair.ca to your place.


You're right that a hosts file entry won't help, but it's not because of
the path that email took to get to him. Instead, it's for the simple
reason that hosts file lookups are performed when your PC needs to
translate a domain name to an IP address. That kind of lookup isn't
required (i.e., isn't performed) when receiving email.

Instead, you need to have a spam filter,

snip

Correct. Sometimes the trick is in constructing one that's effective,
meaning it does what it's supposed to do without doing too much.

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Old December 7th 17, 08:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mark Lloyd[_2_]
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On 12/06/2017 04:32 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Using Thunderbird 52.5 in Windows 10, I have one company that is
consistently sending me E-mail, The company is called Wayfair.ca, they
are an online furniture company, I have created rules from a message
numerous times, I have added them to my hosts file but they still keep
coming through. my hosts file seems OK as I can no longer reach there
web site
They are very annoying as they send them every few days.
Is there any way I can stop them once and for all.

Thanks, Rene


Have you done business with Wayfair.ca? If so, they may include an
unsubscribe link. If not, don't use it.

I would probably set a filter on anything with the sender that ends with
"wayfair.ca". I have does similar things with persistent sources of junk
mail.


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"The money man gives to get him into heaven is what he ought to use to
improve the earth." [Lemuel K. Washburn, _Is The Bible Worth Reading And
Other Essays_]
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Old December 7th 17, 08:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mark Lloyd[_2_]
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On 12/06/2017 06:03 PM, Wolf K wrote:

[snip]

I checked them out. They are an international company, their Boston HQ
he

4 Copley Place
Floor 7
Boston, MA 02116

Check your filters. They should be "From contains", not "From is". the
From field usually contains both a display name and an email address,
Create a filter item for each one. Also look at the Subject lines, and
concoct some "Subject Contains" filters. Test them by Move To Junk, so
you can catch false positives, and possibly refine the filter string.

There are also "begins with" and "ends with" options that are more
specific than "contains" and should be used if appropriate.

For email filters, I usually use "From ends with" when I want to
intercept email from a certain domain.

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AM for 1 day).

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"The money man gives to get him into heaven is what he ought to use to
improve the earth." [Lemuel K. Washburn, _Is The Bible Worth Reading And
Other Essays_]
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Old December 7th 17, 08:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Rene Lamontagne
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On 12/07/2017 1:19 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 12/06/2017 04:32 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Using Thunderbird 52.5 in Windows 10, I have one company that is
consistently sending me E-mail, The company is called Wayfair.ca, they
are an online furniture company, I have created rules from a message
numerous times, I have added them to my hosts file but they still keep
coming through. my hosts file seems OK as I can no longer reach there
web site
They are very annoying as they send them every few days.
Is there any way I can stop them once and for all.

Thanks, Rene


Have you done business with Wayfair.ca? If so, they may include an
unsubscribe link. If not, don't use it.

I would probably set a filter on anything with the sender that ends with
"wayfair.ca". I have does similar things with persistent sources of junk
mail.



All done, see my post of 9:40 am.

Rene

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Old December 7th 17, 08:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Nil[_5_]
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On 07 Dec 2017, "Mayayana" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

The unsubscribe might work. Though there's something
not quite right about companies that spam you without
asking and then say they'll stop if you ask them nicely.


That's just the way it is, although I find that in most cases there is
an opportunity to opt out in the same place you give out your email
address. Sometimes it's not very obvious.

I've had almost 100% success simply using the email's "unsubscribe"
link, if it's a sender I'm convinced is legit. If they're not legit,
it's liable to be a one-off spam and not worth thinking twice about.
I've only ever had to resort to filtering out advertising emails two or
three times.

Junk phone calls are far, far greater problem for me these days than
are junk emails.
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Old December 7th 17, 11:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Roger Blake[_2_]
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On 2017-12-06, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Using Thunderbird 52.5 in Windows 10, I have one company that is
consistently sending me E-mail, The company is called Wayfair.ca, they
are an online furniture company, I have created rules from a message
numerous times, I have added them to my hosts file but they still keep
coming through. my hosts file seems OK as I can no longer reach there
web site
They are very annoying as they send them every few days.
Is there any way I can stop them once and for all.


If you have access to procmail on the mail server you can use
a procmail recipe to send all mail from wayfair.ca to /dev/null.

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Old December 7th 17, 11:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Rene Lamontagne
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On 12/07/2017 4:24 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2017-12-06, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Using Thunderbird 52.5 in Windows 10, I have one company that is
consistently sending me E-mail, The company is called Wayfair.ca, they
are an online furniture company, I have created rules from a message
numerous times, I have added them to my hosts file but they still keep
coming through. my hosts file seems OK as I can no longer reach there
web site
They are very annoying as they send them every few days.
Is there any way I can stop them once and for all.


If you have access to procmail on the mail server you can use
a procmail recipe to send all mail from wayfair.ca to /dev/null.


Thanks Roger, I will check into that in case this fails. as I am not
familiar wit it.

Rene

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Old December 8th 17, 12:08 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
mick
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On 07/12/2017 19:24:56, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 12/07/2017 1:19 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 12/06/2017 04:32 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Using Thunderbird 52.5 in Windows 10, I have one company that is
consistently sending me E-mail, The company is called Wayfair.ca, they are
an online furniture company, I have created rules from a message numerous
times, I have added them to my hosts file but they still keep coming
through. my hosts file seems OK as I can no longer reach there web site
They are very annoying as they send them every few days.
Is there any way I can stop them once and for all.

Thanks, Rene


Have you done business with Wayfair.ca? If so, they may include an
unsubscribe link. If not, don't use it.

I would probably set a filter on anything with the sender that ends with
"wayfair.ca". I have does similar things with persistent sources of junk
mail.



All done, see my post of 9:40 am.

I found your post by having to search the entire thread. The time you
posted is indeed 09.40 am in the header, but we don't all live in your
time zone so the date/time shown can be different in the message pane
of the newsreader. Time here of your message was 15.40.29 ;-)

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Old December 8th 17, 02:23 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Rene Lamontagne
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On 12/07/2017 5:08 PM, mick wrote:
On 07/12/2017 19:24:56, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 12/07/2017 1:19 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 12/06/2017 04:32 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Using Thunderbird 52.5 in Windows 10, I have one company that is
consistently sending me E-mail, The company is called Wayfair.ca,
they are an online furniture company, I have created rules from a
message numerous times, I have added them to my hosts file but they
still keep coming through. my hosts file seems OK as I can no longer
reach there web site
They are very annoying as they send them every few days.
Is there any way I can stop them once and for all.

Thanks, Rene

Have you done business with Wayfair.ca? If so, they may include an
unsubscribe link. If not, don't use it.

I would probably set a filter on anything with the sender that ends
with "wayfair.ca". I have does similar things with persistent sources
of junk mail.



All done, see my post of 9:40 am.

I found your post by having to search the entire thread.* The time you
posted is indeed 09.40 am in the header, but we don't all live in your
time zone so the date/time shown can be different in the message pane of
the newsreader.* Time here of your message was 15.40.29 ;-)


Yeah, I never thought of that but it makes things harder for other
people in other time zones, must be an easier way.

ERene

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Old December 8th 17, 02:59 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Char Jackson
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On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 19:23:56 -0600, Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

On 12/07/2017 5:08 PM, mick wrote:
On 07/12/2017 19:24:56, Rene Lamontagne wrote:

All done, see my post of 9:40 am.

I found your post by having to search the entire thread.* The time you
posted is indeed 09.40 am in the header, but we don't all live in your
time zone so the date/time shown can be different in the message pane of
the newsreader.* Time here of your message was 15.40.29 ;-)


Yeah, I never thought of that but it makes things harder for other
people in other time zones, must be an easier way.


The universally accepted way of referring someone back to an earlier
post is to reference it by its Message-ID.

For example, the Message-ID (MID) of the post to which I'm replying here
is Message-ID: .


 




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