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Old December 28th 18, 04:39 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

A tour of elementary OS, perhaps the Linux world’s best hope for the
mainstream.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/12/a-tour-of-elementary-os-perhaps-the-linux-worlds-best-hope-for-the-mainstream/
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Old December 28th 18, 06:56 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server, alt.os.linux, comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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A tour of elementary OS, perhaps the Linux world’s best hope for the mainstream.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/12/a-tour-of-elementary-os-perhaps-the-linux-worlds-best-hope-for-the-mainstream/


It's systemd. VOMIT!!! DRY HEAVES!!!

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Old December 28th 18, 07:40 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2018-12-28, Anonymous wrote:
It's systemd. VOMIT!!! DRY HEAVES!!!


Although I dislike systemd, I'll take it over Microsoft's activation hell,
which I am currently embroiled in on a friend's computer that needed to
be reloaded. MS's promise that the Windows 10 "digital license" would be
honored if the OS needed to be reinstalled turns out to be just another
Big Lie.

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Old December 28th 18, 08:49 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On 2018-12-28, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2018-12-28, Anonymous wrote:
It's systemd. VOMIT!!! DRY HEAVES!!!


Although I dislike systemd, I'll take it over Microsoft's activation hell,
which I am currently embroiled in on a friend's computer that needed to
be reloaded. MS's promise that the Windows 10 "digital license" would be
honored if the OS needed to be reinstalled turns out to be just another
Big Lie.


If you've ever used Office 365 you'll see a good license routine. If
they could do that with Windows they'd have a winner. Adobe has a method
where if you install their suite and you already have it activated
elsewhere, you can tell the current install to de-activate older installs
and have the newer take the place of the older.

It's evolving for the better but the pace of this evolution is slow. A
huge advantage for Linux is you're free to install it and distribute it.
A corporate dream come true.

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Old December 28th 18, 09:26 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On 2018-12-28, Anonymous wrote:
It's systemd. VOMIT!!! DRY HEAVES!!!


Although I dislike systemd, I'll take it over Microsoft's activation
hell, which I am currently embroiled in on a friend's computer that
needed to be reloaded. MS's promise that the Windows 10 "digital
license" would be honored if the OS needed to be reinstalled turns
out to be just another Big Lie.


Use Removewat 2.2.9

http://windowsactivatorloader.com/removewat-2-2-9/
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Old December 28th 18, 10:04 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On 2018-12-28, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Use Removewat 2.2.9
http://windowsactivatorloader.com/removewat-2-2-9/


Looks interesting, but I'm leery of using a "crack" program which
Microsoft may work around at some point. (I explained to my friend who
is elderly and doesn't really understand any of this that he needs
permission from Microsoft to use his computer.)

I just spent a fruitless hour or so with Microsoft "Support" which
was about as useful and painless as dropping the computer on my toe.
This is an old computer so I'll probably just put it back to its original
Windows 7, there's still about a year of support left in that puppy and
by that time the PC may be replaced.

Unfortunately the owner uses some Windows-based programs and I don't want
him (or me supporting him) having to deal with Wine or virtual machines,
so Linux is not an option in his case. I guess that's the only reason
people put up with this kind of crap. You wouldn't put up with such an
inconvenience for a damned $20 toaster, but people have to deal with it
on their much more expensive PCs.

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Old December 28th 18, 10:31 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On 2018-12-28, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Use Removewat 2.2.9
http://windowsactivatorloader.com/removewat-2-2-9/


Looks interesting, but I'm leery of using a "crack" program which
Microsoft may work around at some point. (I explained to my friend
who is elderly and doesn't really understand any of this that he
needs permission from Microsoft to use his computer.)

I just spent a fruitless hour or so with Microsoft "Support" which
was about as useful and painless as dropping the computer on my toe.
This is an old computer so I'll probably just put it back to its
original Windows 7, there's still about a year of support left in
that puppy and by that time the PC may be replaced.

Unfortunately the owner uses some Windows-based programs and I don't
want him (or me supporting him) having to deal with Wine or virtual
machines, so Linux is not an option in his case. I guess that's the
only reason people put up with this kind of crap. You wouldn't put up
with such an inconvenience for a damned $20 toaster, but people have
to deal with it on their much more expensive PCs.


I will not go beyond Windows 7. Any higher is known to be spying on
you. I value my privacy, even to the point of using a Cotse ssh
VPNthingy and an external pfSense firewall. No one should ever upgrade
to Windows 8 or 10. I have not upgraded my W7 for years now also. I
would not be caught up in the Microsoft update crises mania or afraid
of not being able to run future programs without a system upgrade.
Only games and other childish nonsense requires that. A good x64
Windows 7 machine is all one needs in my opinion. Microsoft is not
making that many system changes, but they are actually trying to
convert people to running a Microsoft service, something that is only
going to lock people into a continuous cost system. I will go to Linux
before getting sucked into that. The only reason I haven't gone to
Linux already is because of the software I am using and written.
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Old December 28th 18, 09:37 PM posted to alt.test,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

In article
Roger Blake wrote:

On 2018-12-28, Anonymous wrote:
It's systemd. VOMIT!!! DRY HEAVES!!!


Although I dislike systemd, I'll take it over Microsoft's activation hell,
which I am currently embroiled in on a friend's computer that needed to
be reloaded. MS's promise that the Windows 10 "digital license" would be
honored if the OS needed to be reinstalled turns out to be just another
Big Lie.


I don't know what your friend's problem is, but I've done it several
times on multiple machines and it worked just fine.

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Old December 28th 18, 11:39 PM posted to alt.test,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On 2018-12-28, Anonymous wrote:
I don't know what your friend's problem is, but I've done it several
times on multiple machines and it worked just fine.


After a lengthy remote tech session with Microsoft, they don't know
what the problem is either. (Generally I'd say it's just another buggy,
unreliable Microsoft malfeature.)

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Old December 28th 18, 11:48 PM posted to alt.test,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On 2018-12-28, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2018-12-28, Anonymous wrote:
I don't know what your friend's problem is, but I've done it several
times on multiple machines and it worked just fine.


After a lengthy remote tech session with Microsoft, they don't know
what the problem is either. (Generally I'd say it's just another buggy,
unreliable Microsoft malfeature.)


Sometimes the request is made to a server which doesn't reply properly
and you get this problem. And even if you call them to do it over the
phone, they themselves have the same issue. It tends to resolve itself
later. Still a hassle. They need a system more like the one they use for
365 apps.

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Old December 29th 18, 11:49 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 19:40:58 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake wrote:

On 2018-12-28, Anonymous wrote:
It's systemd. VOMIT!!! DRY HEAVES!!!


Although I dislike systemd, I'll take it over Microsoft's activation hell,
which I am currently embroiled in on a friend's computer that needed to
be reloaded. MS's promise that the Windows 10 "digital license" would be
honored if the OS needed to be reinstalled turns out to be just another
Big Lie.


Nonsense. According to a later post of yours, the computer in
question has a Win7 licence. Thus installing win10 and expecting it
to be activated is fruitless.

(f/u set)
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Old December 29th 18, 02:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On 2018-12-29, mechanic wrote:
Nonsense. According to a later post of yours, the computer in
question has a Win7 licence. Thus installing win10 and expecting it
to be activated is fruitless.


Not when it previously had been upgraded to Windows 10 via Microsoft's
free upgrade offer, numbnuts.

Perhaps you've already forgotten that period of time when Microsoft
was so aggressive about rolling out the new OS that people were even
inadvertantly being upgraded whether they wanted to or not. At the time
we were told that Windows 10 used a digital license locked to the hardware
and stored by Microsoft which would be honored in the event of a reload.

(f/u set)


Right back at you.

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Old December 29th 18, 05:11 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 14:10:51 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake
wrote:

On 2018-12-29, mechanic wrote:
Nonsense. According to a later post of yours, the computer in
question has a Win7 licence. Thus installing win10 and expecting it
to be activated is fruitless.


Not when it previously had been upgraded to Windows 10 via Microsoft's
free upgrade offer, numbnuts.

Perhaps you've already forgotten that period of time when Microsoft
was so aggressive about rolling out the new OS that people were even
inadvertantly being upgraded whether they wanted to or not. At the time
we were told that Windows 10 used a digital license locked to the hardware
and stored by Microsoft which would be honored in the event of a reload.


I remember the cunning effort to get Windows users on W10. I tried it
for free for a few days and decided W10 was not for me and so stayed
on W7.

I gave up all UNIX variations and derivatives a long time before
trying Windows. I wrote Machine code and so I took to NT, ASM, C and
C++. How time flies!

Steve

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Old December 29th 18, 06:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 14:10:51 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake wrote:

On 2018-12-29, mechanic wrote:
Nonsense. According to a later post of yours, the computer in
question has a Win7 licence. Thus installing win10 and expecting
it to be activated is fruitless.


Not when it previously had been upgraded to Windows 10 via
Microsoft's free upgrade offer, numbnuts.


Then the machine with upgraded Win10 will be logged in the
appropriate MSFT server and reactivation is automatic at any
reinstall of the Win10. This argument was all sorted out about five
versions ago (of Win10).
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Old December 29th 18, 01:52 PM posted to alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Excellent article about Linux

Roger Blake wrote:
On 2018-12-28, Anonymous wrote:
It's systemd. VOMIT!!! DRY HEAVES!!!


Although I dislike systemd, I'll take it over Microsoft's activation hell,
which I am currently embroiled in on a friend's computer that needed to
be reloaded. MS's promise that the Windows 10 "digital license" would be
honored if the OS needed to be reinstalled turns out to be just another
Big Lie.


Help is available with activation issues.

If the user logs in normally with an MSA
to the machine, the phone help can use the MSA
to zero in on the machine needing help.

The server problem that lasted for a couple days
has been fixed, and unless you did something rash,
they've been backfilling the mess they made. What
happened there, is already-activated copies started
throwing up notification dialogs at startup. When
that happens... don't panic. That's what happens
when you insist on a "mainframe architecture" in
the form of activation (single point of failure).

Paul
 




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