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Excellent article about Linux
In article , Nomen Nescio
wrote: or your own hardware, and it's not nonsense. there's a lot of functionality that is not possible any other way. It is markeing nonsense. there is nothing nonsense about it. the cloud provides functionality not otherwise possible. you personally might not be interested, but the rest of the world is. Citation needed. Who are you to make such a declaration? the widespread popularity of many, many different cloud services is ample proof. |
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Excellent article about Linux
On 2018-12-29, nospam wrote:
In article , Roger Blake wrote: Some people like to keep things under their own control and retain a modicum of privacy. nothing about the cloud prevents that. in fact, encryption is often the default. I think SnapChat is encrypted end to end. I don't see the point of being stuck in the past. I welcome and embrace new technologies. If it does something I will benefit from, why wouldn't I want it? I bought 55" LG 4K TV recently, which is running webOS. A TV that has an OS, and why not? At first I didn't get why they would want to do this. But if you think about for a second, the TV itself has HDR. At can automatically sense the video stream with HDR and work with that. And developers can write apps for the TV. YouTube and NetFlix, Amazon Prime and others are apps on webOS on my TV. Let that sink in for a second. I don't need a cable box anymore. The TV has Amazon Prime and YouTube. Connect the TV to the Internet and watch YouTube directly. I thought maybe the TV lost the connection with the Internet and ran SpeedTest from the TV to test for this. Nope, connected just fine. Check the weather and so on. On Apple TV to setup the Apple TV I just held my iPhone close to the Apple TV and the phone setup the TV. With YouTube TV I have unlimited recordings of everything. Tell it record the World Cup and I have the world cup on any device that has YouTube. I can just stream it from anywhere. No data caps at all. Unlimited recordings of ANYTHING on YouTube TV. Sure beats a TiVo. -- Peter Kozlov |
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Excellent article about Linux
On 2018-12-29, nospam wrote:
In article , Nomen Nescio wrote: or your own hardware, and it's not nonsense. there's a lot of functionality that is not possible any other way. It is markeing nonsense. there is nothing nonsense about it. the cloud provides functionality not otherwise possible. you personally might not be interested, but the rest of the world is. Citation needed. Who are you to make such a declaration? the widespread popularity of many, many different cloud services is ample proof. There are something like 2 billion mobile devices users and I think that's the active number. That's a hell of a lot. -- Peter Kozlov |
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Excellent article about Linux
In article , Nomen Nescio
wrote: or your own hardware, and it's not nonsense. there's a lot of functionality that is not possible any other way. It is markeing nonsense. there is nothing nonsense about it. the cloud provides functionality not otherwise possible. you personally might not be interested, but the rest of the world is. Citation needed. Who are you to make such a declaration? the widespread popularity of many, many different cloud services is ample proof. Citation needed. Who are you to make such a declaration? |
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Excellent article about Linux
On 29/12/2018 18.11, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote: My old TomTom device refuses to connect to the computer now. I replaced the battery this year, did a map update, but now it doesn't connect at all to the computer, it does not put up the USB interface. I guess they intentionally bricked it remotely to force people purchase new units. Toss it. I stopped using mine years ago. Google Maps on my phone does a better job, easier to set and modify route and route has up to date road conditions and no subscriptions.... I have a new one, so no, I'm not going to toss it :-) The new one does not need a map subscription, either. It has certain advantages to a phone held somehow on the dashboard. -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. |
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Excellent article about Linux
On 29/12/2018 21.22, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2018-12-29, nospam wrote: or your own hardware, and it's not nonsense. there's a lot of functionality that is not possible any other way. It is markeing nonsense. Conceptually it is no different than using a terminal to log into a computer service bureau in 1975 because your local device doesn't have sufficient storage or power on its own. LOL! Far from it. Those terminals were nothing but a terminal, totally dumb. The nowdays devices are way smaller and many orders of magnitude more powerful on their own. (I also was there. Almost) -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. |
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Excellent article about Linux
On 29/12/2018 23.25, Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article , Roger Blake wrote: or your own hardware, and it's not nonsense. there's a lot of functionality that is not possible any other way. It is markeing nonsense. there is nothing nonsense about it. the cloud provides functionality not otherwise possible. you personally might not be interested, but the rest of the world is. *Citation needed.* Who are you to make such a declaration? He is right. -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. |
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Excellent article about Linux
On 29/12/2018 20.45, nospam wrote:
In article , Roger Blake wrote: As I said, product activation alone is enough to keep me away from Microsoft products aside from any other considerations. then you won't be using computers anymore, since nearly all software today has activation in some form due to rampant piracy. Well, no, that's not totally true. I know you don't like Linux, but as the thread has Linux on the subject line, and I'm replying on a Linux group, I feel entitled to say that there is no activation needed to use or update Linux :-P Also, I bought an Android tablet some time ago that required no activation or subscription. Yes, it runs Android, but needs no google ID to get updates, albeit not from Google Play. -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. |
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Excellent article about Linux
On 29/12/2018 23.03, nospam wrote:
In article , Roger Blake wrote: there is no conspiracy to control what users do. It is not a conspiracy, I agree. A willing, an interest in knowing what they do... ;-) then you won't be using computers anymore, since nearly all software today has activation in some form due to rampant piracy. Not FOSS. None of the software that I use requires activation. that's not representative of the industry and you know it. Well, now, that is not true either. Even if it is 15%, you can not toss that away as "irrelevant". And that on the user side of things; in the server side, the tables are turning the other way round. -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. |
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Excellent article about Linux
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"Carlos E. R." wrote: On 29/12/2018 21.22, Roger Blake wrote: On 2018-12-29, nospam wrote: or your own hardware, and it's not nonsense. there's a lot of functionality that is not possible any other way. It is markeing nonsense. Conceptually it is no different than using a terminal to log into a computer service bureau in 1975 because your local device doesn't have sufficient storage or power on its own. LOL! Far from it. Those terminals were nothing but a terminal, totally dumb. The nowdays devices are way smaller and many orders of magnitude more powerful on their own. (I also was there. Almost) -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. |
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Excellent article about Linux
On 2018-12-29, nospam wrote:
your loss. they're very capable devices that can do all sorts of things that were once considered impossible. I don't see it as a loss. Nothing they provide is worth the tracking and surveillance aspects. There is nothing a smartphone can do that I need or want. the entire concept is ludicrous. it's tinfoil hat material. As in Orwell's "Nineteen Eighty Four" it may not be listening all the time, but you don't know when or where it might be. At a minimum it has to be listening for keywords to activate the AI functions and you don't really know when or where it may be doing more. Devices such as Alexa and Google Home don't even have the battery concern. Then of course there is the GPS function that tracks everywhere you go. (How else is Siri going to recommend restaurants that are near you?) You might want to look up a guy named Ed Snowden if you believe that being concerned about mass surveillance is merely "tinfoil hat material." the cloud is much more than 'just a collection of servers'. It is not. I've been working in technology for over 40 years and the internet for over 35 years. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... guess what, it's a duck. it's more reliable than anything you could possibly do with your own system, unless you have a similar budget as they do, which is extremely unlikely. Nonsense. It is not difficult to implement one's own effective backup regimen. If you think no one has ever lost anything in "thuh cloud" you're delusionary. Start with the people who lost their stuff with due to a bug in the Windows 10 1809 update. you weren't streaming music or video in the 1970s, locally or the cloud. That is irrelevent. From an architectural standpoint it is the same type of client-server concept. You have a local device whose limitaions require computing power and storage at a remote location. The actual application does not change the fundamental concept, nor does it change simply because you are using a smartphone with "thuh cloud" instead of a terminal connecting to a remote mainframe. missing the point entirely. I would say you do not even have a point. nothing about the cloud prevents that. When processing and storage is taking place on someone else's servers (which once again is all that "thuh cloud" really is), then you effectively do not have control. You really have no idea where your data is being stored, who will have access to it under what conditions, or even if you will have access to it in the future. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com Don't talk to cops! -- http://www.DontTalkToCops.com Badges don't grant extra rights -- http://www.CopBlock.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Excellent article about Linux
On 2018-12-29, Peter Kozlov wrote:
Let that sink in for a second. I don't need a cable box anymore. I've never needed a cable box. I use an antenna on the roof. My take on entertainment is that is is of little or no value. In the pecking order of things I concern myself with entertainment is at or near the bottom of the list. I have no need or desire for any of the things you describe. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com Don't talk to cops! -- http://www.DontTalkToCops.com Badges don't grant extra rights -- http://www.CopBlock.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Excellent article about Linux
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"Carlos E. R." wrote: On 29/12/2018 23.25, Nomen Nescio wrote: In article , Roger Blake wrote: or your own hardware, and it's not nonsense. there's a lot of functionality that is not possible any other way. It is markeing nonsense. there is nothing nonsense about it. the cloud provides functionality not otherwise possible. you personally might not be interested, but the rest of the world is. Citation needed. Who are you to make such a declaration? He is right. -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. |
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Excellent article about Linux
On 2018-12-29, nospam wrote:
microsoft *can't* revoke activation because they feel like it. Of course they can. If not due to concious activity, due to bugs in their activation system. you complained about iot devices not getting security updates and now you're complaining about microsoft offering security updates. can't have it both ways. On my computer I want control of updates. Microsoft has largely removed the ability to do that. In the Home version you have no control at all. Some limited control in Pro. that's not due to microsoft deciding to deactivate a system. Even if due to deficiencies in their activation system it is completely unacceptable. nothing is perfect and sometimes things don't work as expected. Then an activation system that can lock the user out of his or her own computer is not acceptable. most of the time it's due to the user doing something wrong or their system is misconfigured and refusing to accept responsibility. less often, it's buggy software. An activation system that can lock the user out of his or her own computer is not acceptable. there is no conspiracy to control what users do. I didn't say there was a conspiracy. then you won't be using computers anymore, since nearly all software today has activation in some form due to rampant piracy. Not FOSS. None of the software that I use requires activation. that's not representative of the industry and you know it. Oh, how many web servers run Apache on top of Linux? You said NEARLY ALL SOFTWARE TODAY has activation in some form. You are lying. There are thousands of FOSS operating systems and applications used throughout the industry and you know it. that would be you. No, that would be you. You continue lying through your teeth. mainstream software, the stuff that people actually use to do real You are lying once again. You did not say "mainstream software" - you said "NEARLY ALL SOFTWARE TODAY." You of course have been caught in a blatant lie, so you move the goalposts. As I said, NONE of the software that I use requires activation. i didn't say smartphone, but regardless, activation is required to use them and other products. You are conflating subscribing to a service with activating a piece of software running on a device that you own. Lies, lies, and more lies. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com Don't talk to cops! -- http://www.DontTalkToCops.com Badges don't grant extra rights -- http://www.CopBlock.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Excellent article about Linux
In article "Carlos E. R." wrote: On 29/12/2018 18.11, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Carlos E.R. wrote: My old TomTom device refuses to connect to the computer now. I replaced the battery this year, did a map update, but now it doesn't connect at all to the computer, it does not put up the USB interface. I guess they intentionally bricked it remotely to force people purchase new units. Toss it. I stopped using mine years ago. Google Maps on my phone does a better job, easier to set and modify route and route has up to date road conditions and no subscriptions.... I have a new one, so no, I'm not going to toss it :-) The new one does not need a map subscription, either. It has certain advantages to a phone held somehow on the dashboard. -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. |
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