"Kernel_Stack_Inpage_Error" Stop Error

Hi,
Well yesterday was my first experience with this rather unnerving blue
screen message and now I have a couple of questions I hope someone can help
me with.
Other than rebooting, and basically hoping for the best, this is a very
short summary of what it said: (btw, I did reboot and so far so good)

Tech. Info: ****STOP
0x00000077 (0xc0000185, 0xc0000185, 0x00000001. 0x00026000)
(I hope I didn't miss any 0 s)

What I've done so far:
First I found it in a Windows book where it says it has to do with a memory
problem.
I looked up the common causes in Windows KB which made reference to the
paging file and found the "185" reference STATUS_IO_DEVICE_ERROR, caused by
improper termination or bad cabling on SCSI devices. (Now I'm really lost!)
Questions:
1. Would this be caused by me moving the paging file from my CWindows
Fat32) drive to my slave(NTFS) drive?
2. Is there a way to check "improper termination etc."?

If you need any other info. please let me know.
Thank you
(XP Home SP2, All AV up to date, All Anti-spyware up to date)





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You are never too old to learn!

"Chitterette" wrote in message
...
Hi,
Well yesterday was my first experience with this rather unnerving blue
screen message and now I have a couple of questions I hope someone can
help
me with.
Other than rebooting, and basically hoping for the best, this is a very
short summary of what it said: (btw, I did reboot and so far so good)

Tech. Info: ****STOP
0x00000077 (0xc0000185, 0xc0000185, 0x00000001. 0x00026000)
(I hope I didn't miss any 0 s)

What I've done so far:
First I found it in a Windows book where it says it has to do with a
memory
problem.
I looked up the common causes in Windows KB which made reference to the
paging file and found the "185" reference STATUS_IO_DEVICE_ERROR, caused
by
improper termination or bad cabling on SCSI devices. (Now I'm really
lost!)
Questions:
1. Would this be caused by me moving the paging file from my CWindows
Fat32) drive to my slave(NTFS) drive?
No
2. Is there a way to check "improper termination etc."?
It is significant that this problem only started in the last few days. This
fact suggests that you have a loose cable somewhere.
Does your computer have any SCSI devices? If so, reseat the cables. A
loose cable cannot be properly terminated.
Does your computer have a PCI ATA controller? These controllers represent
themselves as SCSI devices. Reseat the controller.
If these don't help, I can't help you.
Jim

Hi Chitterette,

Hi,
Well yesterday was my first experience with this rather unnerving blue
screen message and now I have a couple of questions I hope someone can help
me with.

Tech. Info: ****STOP
0x00000077 (0xc0000185, 0xc0000185, 0x00000001. 0x00026000)
(I hope I didn't miss any 0 s)

Like Jim said, PCI IDE controllers, but also PCI SATA controlers
present themselfes as SCSI.

I've hat the stop error too, and have experienced two faults:

1: I changed the cable on the offending drive, if you go into My
Computer-- Manage -- Event Viewer -- System. You'll most likely see
errors (those with a red cross) on one of your disks.

2: the disk was failing. Download from the hardware vendors site the
diagnostic tool and check the drive. REMEMBER to backup any data on
the drive first. If it fails this test, then have the drive replaced.

Regards Leif.

Wow!
Thank you so much for the quick replies.

Jim: This will be a new experience for me but I'm going inside the box to
check it out. (I'll check the SCSI info. first though)

Leif: Sorry, I forgot to mention before that I had checked in the Event
Viewer and was very surprised not to find any mention at all of this. I
don't remember seeing any SATA controllers but will definitely check that out
too.

Again, thank you both very much, I'm off to investigate (after a complete
back-up) and will post back as soon as I have an answer.

Regards and best wishes!


----
You are never too old to learn!

"Chitterette" wrote in message
...
Hi,
Well yesterday was my first experience with this rather unnerving blue
screen message and now I have a couple of questions I hope someone can
help
me with.
Other than rebooting, and basically hoping for the best, this is a very
short summary of what it said: (btw, I did reboot and so far so good)

Tech. Info: ****STOP
0x00000077 (0xc0000185, 0xc0000185, 0x00000001. 0x00026000)
(I hope I didn't miss any 0 s)

What I've done so far:
First I found it in a Windows book where it says it has to do with a
memory
problem.
I looked up the common causes in Windows KB which made reference to the
paging file and found the "185" reference STATUS_IO_DEVICE_ERROR, caused
by
improper termination or bad cabling on SCSI devices. (Now I'm really
lost!)
Questions:
1. Would this be caused by me moving the paging file from my CWindows
Fat32) drive to my slave(NTFS) drive?
2. Is there a way to check "improper termination etc."?

If you need any other info. please let me know.
Thank you
(XP Home SP2, All AV up to date, All Anti-spyware up to date)

You are never too old to learn!

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315266 also states it could be a
boot sector virus, have you eliminated this possibility ?

rgds
Li'l Roberto

"Chitterette" wrote:

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What I've done so far:
First I found it in a Windows book where it says it has to do with a memory
problem.
I looked up the common causes in Windows KB which made reference to the
paging file and found the "185" reference STATUS_IO_DEVICE_ERROR, caused by
improper termination or bad cabling on SCSI devices. (Now I'm really lost!)

It could be. The Resource Kit information says "0xC0000185, or
STATUS_IO_DEVICE_ERROR, indicates improper termination, defective
storage controller hardware, defective disk cabling, or two devices
attempting to use the same system resources."


Questions:
1. Would this be caused by me moving the paging file from my CWindows
Fat32) drive to my slave(NTFS) drive?

Possibly, but only if there is a problem of some kind with the 2nd
(slave) hard drive.


2. Is there a way to check "improper termination etc."?

Go to the hard drive manufacturer's web site (for both your hard
drives), download their free diagnostic utility, and run these to
check out the drives for possible hardware defects.


One further point regarding paging files. With 2 physical hard drives
the optimal configuration is to have a paging file configured on each
drive. I suggest that you add a second small paging file to the boot
drive (C with the size set as minimum 10 mb maximum 100 mb. It will
probably never change from the 10 mb minimum but Windows just seems to
be happier when there is a paging file on the boot drive.

See the article on virtual memory in Windows XP by the late Alex
Nichol MVP at http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm for more detailed
information about paging files.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm

Hi all,
I, very carefully, followed your suggestions Jim and Leif.
I didn't find anything loose in there but I sure did find a lot of dust
bunnies running around and everything was coated! I cleaned it all out with
compressed air and put it back together. (So far, so good)
Darn, I knew I had left important stuff out of my original post.
I apologize to Li'l Roberto and Ron for not mentioning:
Li'l Roberto: I had done the boot virus scan but thanks for the reminder.
and
Ron: I had left a small paging file on C: because after reading many
articles, including the one by the late Alex Nichol MVP, I figured it best to
keep Windows happy at least in this area since I'm always mucking around with
something.

I have not yet found the hard drive diagnostic utilities but am working on
it and enjoying the challenge. I'll report back when I find and run them.

Thank you all for your quick and informative responses.

--
You are never too old to learn!

Hi,

Good news (I think?)
Both drives tested OK and I haven't had any other error messages or blue
screens.
I'm beginning to suspect the problem may have been caused by the dust/dirt.

Thank you all for the advice and suggestions.

Betty

--
You are never too old to learn!


"Ron Martell" wrote:


2. Is there a way to check "improper termination etc."?

Go to the hard drive manufacturer's web site (for both your hard
drives), download their free diagnostic utility, and run these to
check out the drives for possible hardware defects.

See the article on virtual memory in Windows XP by the late Alex
Nichol MVP at http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm for more detailed
information about paging files.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm

Hi Betty,

Good news (I think?)
Both drives tested OK and I haven't had any other error messages or blue
screens.
I'm beginning to suspect the problem may have been caused by the dust/dirt.

Could be.

Could also have been the cables ... you have been mocking around with
them, and maybe one has been fixed anyway.

Regards Leif.

Hi Leif,
I agree, I would guess that all those connections in there are very
sensitive and by checking everything I may have actually fixed a connection
without knowing it.
I had always been afraid to go inside the case but now if I need to do it I
will be much more comfortable thanks to all the help/suggestions from you and
the others.

Best wishes,
Betty
--
You are never too old to learn!


"Leif Nordmand Andersen" wrote:

Hi Betty,

Could be.

Could also have been the cables ... you have been mocking around with
them, and maybe one has been fixed anyway.

Regards Leif.

"Chitterette" wrote:


Hi,

Good news (I think?)
Both drives tested OK and I haven't had any other error messages or blue
screens.
I'm beginning to suspect the problem may have been caused by the dust/dirt.

Thank you all for the advice and suggestions.

Betty


Glad to hear that you have resolved the problem.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm