Maxtor drives

And I thought my kids said some really stupid stuff. You take the cake,
Buckwheat.

--
Jonny
"Ryan" wrote in message
...
have been sold to Seagate for $2 billion dollars.

Anyone hesitant about buying one of their drives can now buy in confidence
now that Seagate has bought them.

have been sold to Seagate for $2 billion dollars.

Anyone hesitant about buying one of their drives can now buy in confidence
now that Seagate has bought them.

Ryan

Don't hold your breath..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"Ryan" wrote in message
...
have been sold to Seagate for $2 billion dollars.

Anyone hesitant about buying one of their drives can now buy in confidence
now that Seagate has bought them.

Mike,

Hitachi does not compare to Seagate. So, your point is invalid.

"Michael Cecil" wrote:

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:26:01 -0800, "Ryan"
wrote:

have been sold to Seagate for $2 billion dollars.

Anyone hesitant about buying one of their drives can now buy in confidence
now that Seagate has bought them.

By that logic, you can now also buy a IBM Deathstar in confidence because
Hitachi bought them, right? Wrong.
--
Michael Cecil
http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/
http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/

"Ryan" wrote in message
...
have been sold to Seagate for $2 billion dollars.

Anyone hesitant about buying one of their drives can now buy in confidence
now that Seagate has bought them.

Lets just hope that Seagate does not let its drives degenerate to the level
of Maxtors.
Maxtors have always sucked...overpriced, hot and they die early deaths due
to poor quality components.

On the other hand, I have a Seagate that came in a Compaq I bought back in
1987. The drive still works today, and has been used just about
continuously since the day it was bought. every Maxtor I have ever owned
have died within 12 to 18 months.

Bobby

Hi, been purchasing Maxtor drivers for years. Currently maintain around
around 150 PC's with them in, only had one failure to date. What's your
problem?
ChrisC
"Ryan" wrote in message
...
Mike,

Hitachi does not compare to Seagate. So, your point is invalid.

"Michael Cecil" wrote:

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:26:01 -0800, "Ryan"
wrote:

have been sold to Seagate for $2 billion dollars.

Anyone hesitant about buying one of their drives can now buy in
confidence
now that Seagate has bought them.

By that logic, you can now also buy a IBM Deathstar in confidence because
Hitachi bought them, right? Wrong.
--
Michael Cecil
http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/
http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/

And how do you make the leap of logic that a change in the listed owner
somehow changes the current drive design and factory output quality?

Ryan wrote:

have been sold to Seagate for $2 billion dollars.

Anyone hesitant about buying one of their drives can now buy in confidence
now that Seagate has bought them.

Chris

Out of six, I have had four fail within a year.. one lasted only three
days.. a visit to a forum re. Maxtor drives showed that I was not alone by a
substantial margin..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"ChrisC" wrote in message
...
Hi, been purchasing Maxtor drivers for years. Currently maintain around
around 150 PC's with them in, only had one failure to date. What's your
problem?
ChrisC
"Ryan" wrote in message
...
Mike,

Hitachi does not compare to Seagate. So, your point is invalid.

"Michael Cecil" wrote:

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:26:01 -0800, "Ryan"
wrote:

have been sold to Seagate for $2 billion dollars.

Anyone hesitant about buying one of their drives can now buy in
confidence
now that Seagate has bought them.

By that logic, you can now also buy a IBM Deathstar in confidence
because
Hitachi bought them, right? Wrong.
--
Michael Cecil
http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/
http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/

Hi mike, ok then we beg to difer, you can visit any forum you care to name
and you'll see bad things written about any product, nature of forums.
I've also got four in my own PC, two DiamondMax Plus 10 NCQ 160g's and two
MaxlineIII 250g's, just installed. I've also worked for a local PC company
that was a Microsoft Certified Partner, as a technicion, and I don't recall
any Maxtors failing, plenty of Samsongs' and IBM's. Another myth, it seems,
is that Maxtors are expensive, however here
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Maxtor2.html and here
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Samsung.html indicate that there is
no difference.
ChrisC

"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message
...
Chris

Out of six, I have had four fail within a year.. one lasted only three
days.. a visit to a forum re. Maxtor drives showed that I was not alone by
a substantial margin..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"ChrisC" wrote in message
...
Hi, been purchasing Maxtor drivers for years. Currently maintain around
around 150 PC's with them in, only had one failure to date. What's your
problem?
ChrisC
"Ryan" wrote in message
...
Mike,

Hitachi does not compare to Seagate. So, your point is invalid.

"Michael Cecil" wrote:

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:26:01 -0800, "Ryan"
wrote:

have been sold to Seagate for $2 billion dollars.

Anyone hesitant about buying one of their drives can now buy in
confidence
now that Seagate has bought them.

By that logic, you can now also buy a IBM Deathstar in confidence
because
Hitachi bought them, right? Wrong.
--
Michael Cecil
http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/
http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:36:56 -1000, "NoNoBadDog!"
wrote:


"Ryan" wrote in message
...
have been sold to Seagate for $2 billion dollars.

Anyone hesitant about buying one of their drives can now buy in confidence
now that Seagate has bought them.

Lets just hope that Seagate does not let its drives degenerate to the level
of Maxtors.
Maxtors have always sucked...overpriced, hot and they die early deaths due
to poor quality components.


Have had 3 maxtors in my system for years (2 of them are around 5
years old) None of them have had a single problem. My newest drive is
a Seagate. Also had no problems with it and the Seagate came with a 5
year warranty.


On the other hand, I have a Seagate that came in a Compaq I bought back in
1987. The drive still works today, and has been used just about
continuously since the day it was bought. every Maxtor I have ever owned
have died within 12 to 18 months.

Bobby

Chris

What you say is true.. all products have bad times.. Maxtor's problem is
that there are more failures than there should have been.. even their
website suggested that the firmware for some drives may be suspect.. some of
their drives run hot too, apparently down to the physical size properties of
the drives.. if mounted in close proximity to each other, as the fixing in
most cases forces, premature failure is definitely on the cards..

As with all things, if you get a good one, then all is well.. Western
Digital, Hitachi, Fujitsu and IBM (the ubiquitous Death Star) have their
moments of good and bad.. Seagate have not had a particularly good record at
some times in the past, but at the moment, they seem to be top dog in HDD
manufacture..

The failure rate that I experienced is totally unacceptable.. unfortunately,
I have lost track of the forum where many others had similar experiences.. I
will not be using Maxtor again until such time as I see evidence suggesting
that their product line has improved greatly..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"ChrisC" wrote in message
...
Hi mike, ok then we beg to difer, you can visit any forum you care to name
and you'll see bad things written about any product, nature of forums.
I've also got four in my own PC, two DiamondMax Plus 10 NCQ 160g's and two
MaxlineIII 250g's, just installed. I've also worked for a local PC company
that was a Microsoft Certified Partner, as a technicion, and I don't
recall any Maxtors failing, plenty of Samsongs' and IBM's. Another myth,
it seems, is that Maxtors are expensive, however here
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Maxtor2.html and here
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Samsung.html indicate that there is
no difference.
ChrisC

"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message
...
Chris

Out of six, I have had four fail within a year.. one lasted only three
days.. a visit to a forum re. Maxtor drives showed that I was not alone
by a substantial margin..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"ChrisC" wrote in message
...
Hi, been purchasing Maxtor drivers for years. Currently maintain around
around 150 PC's with them in, only had one failure to date. What's your
problem?
ChrisC
"Ryan" wrote in message
...
Mike,

Hitachi does not compare to Seagate. So, your point is invalid.

"Michael Cecil" wrote:

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:26:01 -0800, "Ryan"
wrote:

have been sold to Seagate for $2 billion dollars.

Anyone hesitant about buying one of their drives can now buy in
confidence
now that Seagate has bought them.

By that logic, you can now also buy a IBM Deathstar in confidence
because
Hitachi bought them, right? Wrong.
--
Michael Cecil
http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/
http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/

Have to agree that all HD mfrs have their on run of bad drives from time to
time.

The only corporate motivation is see for the callusion of Seagate and Maxtor
is profit both short term stocks, and long term production costs. The final
product quality remains to be seen as result of all this.

The OPs comment and implying about current production Maxtor drives suddenly
becoming more quality oriented because of Seagate acquisition is simply
ludicrous.

--
Jonny
"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message
...
Chris

What you say is true.. all products have bad times.. Maxtor's problem is
that there are more failures than there should have been.. even their
website suggested that the firmware for some drives may be suspect.. some
of
their drives run hot too, apparently down to the physical size properties
of
the drives.. if mounted in close proximity to each other, as the fixing in
most cases forces, premature failure is definitely on the cards..

As with all things, if you get a good one, then all is well.. Western
Digital, Hitachi, Fujitsu and IBM (the ubiquitous Death Star) have their
moments of good and bad.. Seagate have not had a particularly good record
at
some times in the past, but at the moment, they seem to be top dog in HDD
manufacture..

The failure rate that I experienced is totally unacceptable..
unfortunately,
I have lost track of the forum where many others had similar experiences..
I
will not be using Maxtor again until such time as I see evidence
suggesting
that their product line has improved greatly..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"ChrisC" wrote in message
...
Hi mike, ok then we beg to difer, you can visit any forum you care to
name
and you'll see bad things written about any product, nature of forums.
I've also got four in my own PC, two DiamondMax Plus 10 NCQ 160g's and
two
MaxlineIII 250g's, just installed. I've also worked for a local PC
company
that was a Microsoft Certified Partner, as a technicion, and I don't
recall any Maxtors failing, plenty of Samsongs' and IBM's. Another myth,
it seems, is that Maxtors are expensive, however here
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Maxtor2.html and here
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Samsung.html indicate that there
is
no difference.
ChrisC

"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message
...
Chris

Out of six, I have had four fail within a year.. one lasted only three
days.. a visit to a forum re. Maxtor drives showed that I was not alone
by a substantial margin..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"ChrisC" wrote in message
...
Hi, been purchasing Maxtor drivers for years. Currently maintain
around
around 150 PC's with them in, only had one failure to date. What's
your
problem?
ChrisC
"Ryan" wrote in message
...
Mike,

Hitachi does not compare to Seagate. So, your point is invalid.

"Michael Cecil" wrote:

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:26:01 -0800, "Ryan"
wrote:

have been sold to Seagate for $2 billion dollars.

Anyone hesitant about buying one of their drives can now buy in
confidence
now that Seagate has bought them.

By that logic, you can now also buy a IBM Deathstar in confidence
because
Hitachi bought them, right? Wrong.
--
Michael Cecil
http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/
http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/

Hi Mike, agreed, fair enough but I for one will as my experiences are quite
the opposite....
ChrisC
"Jonny" wrote in message
...
Have to agree that all HD mfrs have their on run of bad drives from time
to
time.

The only corporate motivation is see for the callusion of Seagate and
Maxtor
is profit both short term stocks, and long term production costs. The
final
product quality remains to be seen as result of all this.

The OPs comment and implying about current production Maxtor drives
suddenly
becoming more quality oriented because of Seagate acquisition is simply
ludicrous.

--
Jonny
"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message
...
Chris

What you say is true.. all products have bad times.. Maxtor's problem is
that there are more failures than there should have been.. even their
website suggested that the firmware for some drives may be suspect.. some
of
their drives run hot too, apparently down to the physical size properties
of
the drives.. if mounted in close proximity to each other, as the fixing
in
most cases forces, premature failure is definitely on the cards..

As with all things, if you get a good one, then all is well.. Western
Digital, Hitachi, Fujitsu and IBM (the ubiquitous Death Star) have their
moments of good and bad.. Seagate have not had a particularly good record
at
some times in the past, but at the moment, they seem to be top dog in HDD
manufacture..

The failure rate that I experienced is totally unacceptable..
unfortunately,
I have lost track of the forum where many others had similar
experiences..
I
will not be using Maxtor again until such time as I see evidence
suggesting
that their product line has improved greatly..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"ChrisC" wrote in message
...
Hi mike, ok then we beg to difer, you can visit any forum you care to
name
and you'll see bad things written about any product, nature of forums.
I've also got four in my own PC, two DiamondMax Plus 10 NCQ 160g's and
two
MaxlineIII 250g's, just installed. I've also worked for a local PC
company
that was a Microsoft Certified Partner, as a technicion, and I don't
recall any Maxtors failing, plenty of Samsongs' and IBM's. Another
myth,
it seems, is that Maxtors are expensive, however here
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Maxtor2.html and here
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Samsung.html indicate that there
is
no difference.
ChrisC

"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message
...
Chris

Out of six, I have had four fail within a year.. one lasted only three
days.. a visit to a forum re. Maxtor drives showed that I was not
alone
by a substantial margin..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"ChrisC" wrote in message
...
Hi, been purchasing Maxtor drivers for years. Currently maintain
around
around 150 PC's with them in, only had one failure to date. What's
your
problem?
ChrisC
"Ryan" wrote in message
...
Mike,

Hitachi does not compare to Seagate. So, your point is invalid.

"Michael Cecil" wrote:

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:26:01 -0800, "Ryan"
wrote:

have been sold to Seagate for $2 billion dollars.

Anyone hesitant about buying one of their drives can now buy in
confidence
now that Seagate has bought them.

By that logic, you can now also buy a IBM Deathstar in confidence
because
Hitachi bought them, right? Wrong.
--
Michael Cecil
http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/
http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/

Maxtor (was) the best brand.



"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message
...
Chris

Out of six, I have had four fail within a year.. one lasted only three
days.. a visit to a forum re. Maxtor drives showed that I was not alone by
a substantial margin..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"ChrisC" wrote in message
...
Hi, been purchasing Maxtor drivers for years. Currently maintain around
around 150 PC's with them in, only had one failure to date. What's your
problem?
ChrisC
"Ryan" wrote in message
...
Mike,

Hitachi does not compare to Seagate. So, your point is invalid.

"Michael Cecil" wrote:

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:26:01 -0800, "Ryan"
wrote:

have been sold to Seagate for $2 billion dollars.

Anyone hesitant about buying one of their drives can now buy in
confidence
now that Seagate has bought them.

By that logic, you can now also buy a IBM Deathstar in confidence
because
Hitachi bought them, right? Wrong.
--
Michael Cecil
http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/
http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/

seagate WAS a good brand a decade ago!... maxtor became far better than
seagate


"NoNoBadDog!" wrote in message
...

"Ryan" wrote in message
...
have been sold to Seagate for $2 billion dollars.

Anyone hesitant about buying one of their drives can now buy in
confidence
now that Seagate has bought them.

Lets just hope that Seagate does not let its drives degenerate to the
level of Maxtors.
Maxtors have always sucked...overpriced, hot and they die early deaths due
to poor quality components.

On the other hand, I have a Seagate that came in a Compaq I bought back in
1987. The drive still works today, and has been used just about
continuously since the day it was bought. every Maxtor I have ever owned
have died within 12 to 18 months.

Bobby