Corporate XP and SP2

I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to have a
copy, yes it will. But you will have trouble with your dodgy Product Key.
And I'm not going to help you there. Some others may have a hacked copy of
XP. It may work, but I suggest you get a legal copy of XP instead. You might
get a whole heap of trouble because your copy is not as MS intended!

Just thought I'd say. That's all!

There is no such thing as "Corporate edition"
Although the pirates have used that term describing their stolen
licenses.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Lindsay" wrote in message
...
I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with
the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to
have a
copy, yes it will. But you will have trouble with your dodgy Product
Key.
And I'm not going to help you there. Some others may have a hacked
copy of
XP. It may work, but I suggest you get a legal copy of XP instead.
You might
get a whole heap of trouble because your copy is not as MS intended!

Just thought I'd say. That's all!

Ok, the correct name is "volume license" not "corporate", but you know
what he's talking about, and so does everyone else -- the version of XP
licensed to large corporate customers that doesn't do product activation.

Last I heard from MS was that SP2 or Windows Update (it wasn't clear
which) had a list of known "leaked" keys for that edition and would not
install (and might freeze the system against any future Windows
updates) if any of those keys was used, but would work if the key wasn't
on the "blacklist".



Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

There is no such thing as "Corporate edition"
Although the pirates have used that term describing their stolen
licenses.

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

There is no such thing as "Corporate edition"
Although the pirates have used that term describing their stolen
licenses.

There is no such thing as a "stolen" license. You either have a license
or you don't.

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 14:41:24 -0500, Herb Fritatta
wrote:

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

There is no such thing as "Corporate edition"
Although the pirates have used that term describing their stolen
licenses.

There is no such thing as a "stolen" license. You either have a license
or you don't.

If you don't purchase a license, but are using somebody else's then by
definition you have "stolen" it. Stealing is taking something that
belongs to somebody else.

There is no such thing as "Corporate edition"
Although the pirates have used that term describing their stolen
licenses.


There is no such thing as a "stolen" license. You either have a license
or you don't.


If you don't purchase a license, but are using somebody else's then by
definition you have "stolen" it. Stealing is taking something that
belongs to somebody else.


Stealing requires that something be removed from one possessor
illegally and against his will, and given over to the use of
another possessor. When someone uses a corporate license, the
company that has purchased that license hasn't lost it, or the
ability to use it. Nothing has been taken from them. Hence, no
theft has occurred.

Al;
In the case you describe, theft is from Microsoft.
The business may also have a problem with Microsoft because they are
not adequately controlling the licenses.
So in fact the company stands to lose as well.
The company very well may lose something, especially if Microsoft
determines they are not protecting the licenses adequately.
In that very real possible situation, the company may lose "the
ability to use it."

Again, it is a Volume License since there is no such thing as a
"corporate license".

You are treading very close to the excuses made by the thieves (AKA
pirates) to justify their own stealing.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Al Smith" wrote in message
news:FhNTc.95509$Np3.4594289@ursa-
Stealing requires that something be removed from one possessor
illegally and against his will, and given over to the use of another
possessor. When someone uses a corporate license, the company that
has purchased that license hasn't lost it, or the ability to use it.
Nothing has been taken from them. Hence, no theft has occurred.

Al Smith wrote:

There is no such thing as "Corporate edition"

Although the pirates have used that term describing their stolen
licenses.


There is no such thing as a "stolen" license. You either have a
license or you don't.



If you don't purchase a license, but are using somebody else's then by
definition you have "stolen" it. Stealing is taking something that
belongs to somebody else.


Stealing requires that something be removed from one possessor illegally
and against his will, and given over to the use of another possessor.
When someone uses a corporate license, the company that has purchased
that license hasn't lost it, or the ability to use it. Nothing has been
taken from them. Hence, no theft has occurred.

Theft consists of many things, not just what you mention --- Theft by
fraud, deception or false pretenses, theft of intellectual property,
ideas, etc, etc. It doesn't hinge on whether one party looses the
ability to use something. That is an element of certain types of theft,
but not all.

Herb;
Yes there is.
Many people are using unauthorized Product Keys on their computers.
Whether they know it or not, they are using a stolen license.

Are you suggesting just because it is possessed it, it is not stolen,
nothing more to it?
Does it matter how something is acquired?
What do you call it?
Does this also apply to other products you may have?

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Herb Fritatta" wrote in message
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There is no such thing as a "stolen" license. You either have a
license or you don't.

Lindsay wrote:

I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to have a

No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites?

The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good
reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers are
offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for, because they will deny
it. It has nothing to do with piracy.

"Plato" |@|.| wrote in message
...
Lindsay wrote:

I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to
have a

No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites?

Do your searches for Volume License Product Keys SP2.

--
All the Best,
Kelly

Microsoft-MVP Windows® XP
2004 Windows MVP "Winny" Award

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com




"Lindsay" wrote in message
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The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good
reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers are
offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for, because they will
deny
it. It has nothing to do with piracy.

"Plato" |@|.| wrote in message
...
Lindsay wrote:

I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to
have a

No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites?

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:48:02 +0100, "Lindsay"
wrote:


"Plato" |@|.| wrote in message
...
Lindsay wrote:

I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to
have a

No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites?



The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good
reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers are
offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for, because they will deny
it. It has nothing to do with piracy.

Actually Volume licensing is very well known and not "hidden" as you
imply. You can easily ask MS for it, and IF you are willing to pay
for it, they will gladly send you the Volume License software, the
key(s) you will need to install it, and an invoice telling you how
much you are paying for each of those installations. It is not a
cheap prospect.

Then how come almost all MS qualified guys I speak to (not necessarily on
this NG) don't seem to know about it?

"NobodyMan" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:48:02 +0100, "Lindsay"
wrote:


"Plato" |@|.| wrote in message
...
Lindsay wrote:

I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to
have a

No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites?



The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good
reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers
are
offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for, because they will
deny
it. It has nothing to do with piracy.

Actually Volume licensing is very well known and not "hidden" as you
imply. You can easily ask MS for it, and IF you are willing to pay
for it, they will gladly send you the Volume License software, the
key(s) you will need to install it, and an invoice telling you how
much you are paying for each of those installations. It is not a
cheap prospect.

Next time you speak with them ask... Probably simply related to their
experience base and their customers needs.




Lindsay wrote:
Then how come almost all MS qualified guys I speak to (not necessarily on
this NG) don't seem to know about it?

"NobodyMan" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:48:02 +0100, "Lindsay"
wrote:



"Plato" |@|.| wrote in message
.. .

Lindsay wrote:

I've seen on some web forums, people asking if the SP2 works with the
Corporate edition (Volume License) of XP. If you are lucky enough to

have a

No such animal. Please state why you visit pirate sites?



The Volume License DOES exist! It is very little known for very good
reasons. Large corporate companys with VERY large amounts of computers

are

offered it by MS. It's not something you can ask for, because they will

deny

it. It has nothing to do with piracy.


Actually Volume licensing is very well known and not "hidden" as you
imply. You can easily ask MS for it, and IF you are willing to pay
for it, they will gladly send you the Volume License software, the
key(s) you will need to install it, and an invoice telling you how
much you are paying for each of those installations. It is not a
cheap prospect.