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  #31  
Old March 26th 12, 05:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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| Daylight Savings Time shouldn't cause any problems. I've been using
| aioe.org for several years both with Windows and Linux, in and out of
| DST, dual booted or dedicated, and never had any problems. I would look
| for an improperly set setting or an ill-configured configuration
| somewhere.
|
| If you're using OE for Usenet access, check it. I've heard too many
| times of problems that when traced lead back to OE as the culprit.
|

I think I found it. People who allow Automatic Updates
probably don't need this, but for anyone who might
need it:

US schedule for changing to DST changed after XP SP3.
There is a time zone editor he

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...52f/TZEDIT.exe

It's explained he

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914387#m3

I just changed my DST setting to the second Sunday in
March. It had formerly been set for April.


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Old March 26th 12, 05:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 23:58:05 -0400, Paul wrote:

I use the "session memory" feature on purpose - if I want Firefox
to open those windows the next time I boot, I "kill" Firefox
rather than quitting it, and that remembers everything
I was working on. It beats bookmarking 21 things, one at a time.


You can also just do a normal File - Exit to accomplish the same
thing. I used to do a 'kill process' but now I just use Exit since
it's easier.

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Old March 26th 12, 10:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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In ,
Mayayana typed:
I too use OE6 most of the time and after research it uses like 7 and
ES only allow 5 (somebody check this in case my memory is off). And
while ES claims it is over the limit, they support OE most of the
time.


You're not making sense. Why would it be connecting on
7 ports? I have 2 ports live, which I assume are in and out.


I mean connections. E-S only allows up to 4 connections.

http://www.eternal-september.org/ind...wpage=techinfo

And I believe somebody stated on the OE newsgroup years ago that OE can
use up to 7 connections at one time. And this can happen just by
checking for new messages with OE.

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Old March 26th 12, 11:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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In ,
Char Jackson typed:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 23:58:05 -0400, Paul wrote:

I use the "session memory" feature on purpose - if I want Firefox
to open those windows the next time I boot, I "kill" Firefox
rather than quitting it, and that remembers everything
I was working on. It beats bookmarking 21 things, one at a time.


You can also just do a normal File - Exit to accomplish the same
thing. I used to do a 'kill process' but now I just use Exit since
it's easier.


Lots of browsers will remember the last session even after closing. For
example under Firefox 4:

Tools
Options
General (tab)
When Firefox starts:
Show my windows and tabs from last time.

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Old March 26th 12, 01:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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And I have fixed DST with tzedit, back when I was running Win2K.


How long did you run Windows 2000, Paul? I ran it a lot between 2000 to
2006. Then for a few days in 2009. And now I am running it again. I am
surprised how many modern applications it still can run. It would have
been nice if Microsoft allowed IE7 to run on Windows 2000. But there are
other browsers besides IE. ;-)

I'm using Windows 2000 once again on this machine, because XP has high
DPCs for some reason. It seems related to the WiFi driver. But Windows
2000 is using the same driver and it is ok there. Go figure.

And somebody came out with a patch to fix DST for older Windows versions
including Windows 2000. That is what I used.

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Old March 26th 12, 03:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Paul typed:
And I have fixed DST with tzedit, back when I was running Win2K.


How long did you run Windows 2000, Paul? I ran it a lot between 2000 to
2006. Then for a few days in 2009. And now I am running it again. I am
surprised how many modern applications it still can run. It would have
been nice if Microsoft allowed IE7 to run on Windows 2000. But there are
other browsers besides IE. ;-)

I'm using Windows 2000 once again on this machine, because XP has high
DPCs for some reason. It seems related to the WiFi driver. But Windows
2000 is using the same driver and it is ok there. Go figure.

And somebody came out with a patch to fix DST for older Windows versions
including Windows 2000. That is what I used.


I still use Win2K for maintenance (as part of dual boot), but I don't
run it regularly. It's not a good environment for testing games now,
because of the game installer check for the OS version.

Win2K and WinXP are really close when it comes to binary compatibility,
and for a period when they overlapped, you could expect any program written
for one to work with the other. It took some extra effort on Microsoft's part,
like putting a few extra things in DirectX, to spoil that on purpose. For
a while, I was patching out OS checks in a game installer with a hex editor,
but that doesn't always work.

The solution for the browser, is to run something else.

For the Wifi, all I can suggest is reviewing any settings in Device Manager,
such as perhaps interrupt consolidation. But that won't help if the
Wifi is currently idle, that would be more for constant packet transfer,
where you wanted less processor overhead. Some Wifi have their own processor
in the MAC chip, and that offers an opportunity to do more without
interrupting the host. I think it was put there, so you could do things
like Wake On LAN while the computer sleeps (Wifi continues to run).

Paul
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Old March 26th 12, 03:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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| The news client can do more than one thing at a time, given
| an opportunity.
|

I don't think that's it. When using groups I don't see more
than one or two connections open. And this error has
happened when first opening OE and going to groups. As I
said earlier, the problem is the same (unable to connect
for a few minutes, usually in the AM) but the messages I
get can vary. This is not comparable to browser connections.
There's only one instance running.



  #38  
Old March 26th 12, 10:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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"Jeff T" wrote in message ...
Are there any good, free newsservers?



Best one is:::::::

http://x-privat.org/

news.x-privat.org
  #39  
Old March 27th 12, 08:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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And it came to pass that richard2 delivered the following message unto the
people, saying~

Heck, 5 years ago there were whole libraries of clipart for free on the
web. I just want to my local library, took out a few clipart CDs and
copied them to my computer for future use.


http://cd.textfiles.com/ has at least a couple clipart CDs in its
"shovelware" archive. Every single file up there for download. Best to use
wget -r -l0 --no-cookies http://site.url/directory/ to get anything from
that part of the site en masse, since downloading everything item-by-item
is incredibly tedious.

As far as I'm concerned, the internet is dead. Facebook will replace it,
and no one will be anonymous anymore. When these machines start peering
into my home and private life, it's time to move on to another hobby.


F???book and Google (the latter especially) are cancer. They are the
virulent, malignant cancerous tumours spreading about the Internet,
engulfing and infecting every single thing they touch. They consume
resources and transform the underlying makeup of unique sites to that of
itself, if not popping up like tumours or growths on other sites (e.g. in
the form of search bars, sidebar "widgets", ads, etc.) They weaken and
compromise the integrity and stability of the sites that have been
infected by them. If there ever was one "super computer virus", either of
those sites would have to be it.

So, that's the state of the Internet these days. Pretty depressing, but I
guess that's just the way it has to be.

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Old March 27th 12, 09:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:15:00 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:

In ,
Jeff T typed:
Are there any good, free newsservers?


I like "news.eternal-september.org" myself. If you want binary
newsgroups, then that would be a bad one.


I've tried eternal-september several times. They were originally
mozerella, and worked, but were down quite often, and I had to sign up
all over again when they lost the system records. When they switched to
eternal-september, my account was lost again. I had to sign up once
again, and shortly after that one would not work. Again I signed up and
used a different name. That lasted a month or two before I could not
connect again. That's when I gave up on them. There's no reason a
person should have to keep signing up over and over, every few months or
less.

I now use AIOE. It works well 99.9% of the time. When it goes down,
it's usually back up in several hours. There are no binaries, but I
dont think any free servers have them.

The newsgroups are nearly dead anyhow. Usenet has always been 80% of my
internet usage, and there are few newsgroups that have any activity
anymore, and most that do have been taken over by idiots. There are so
few useful newsgroups anymore that I got rid of my costly high speed
internet and went back to low cost dialup from my phone company. I
occasionally use the web for some research or general information like
an encyclopedia, but much of the web is nothing more than advertising
and crap. In my opinion, the internet has gone down the ****ter, and is
not worth paying more than a few bucks a month to have.

My guess is that all the former usenet users have either partially
abandoned the internet like myself, completely left it, or have gone to
that piece of privacy invasive Facebook, which I would not recommend to
my worst enemy. But like everything good, it all turns to **** in the
end. In the 70's the CB radio was a lot of fun, then that went the same
way as the internet is now. In another couple years the internet will
only be used by annoying assholes and businesses who charge for
everything you want to do online. Hell, around the holidays I was
looking for some clipart and every site wanted me to pay as much as $5
for one picture. Heck, 5 years ago there were whole libraries of
clipart for free on the web. I just want to my local library, took out
a few clipart CDs and copied them to my computer for future use.

As far as I'm concerned, the internet is dead. Facebook will replace
it, and no one will be anonymous anymore. When these machines start
peering into my home and private life, it's time to move on to another
hobby.


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Old March 27th 12, 09:46 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 13:18:17 -0400, Paul wrote:


Your news reader software, may default to port 119. That results
in anyone "looking at the packets in flight", being able to
see the message. But since your message is public anyway,
all this detail means, is they can theoretically track the
source of a new posting, to the coffee shop it's being sent
from. If you use SSL, it means that big warehouse in Utah,
has to work a little harder to crack the content :-)


How can you use SSL on newsgroups? Or are you referring to
Googlegroups?


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Old March 27th 12, 10:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 13:27:38 -0400, Paul wrote:

Paolo Amoroso has fooled around a *lot* with that clock check. At one time,
it was widened out to around a day, so it wouldn't trip up on
trivial daylight savings errors. If you're seeing that error again,
you'd need to complain over on aioe.news.helpdesk .

"Clock abusers" post in the future, in the hopes their posting
will always appear at the "top" of a date-listed screen. That's
why they do it. And some servers flag such attempts. But in this
case, the check is too tight.

Paul


I got that same error message around the time of the DLST change a
couple weeks ago. The reason was because my computer was not changed to
DLST. (Older computer that dont change on the right date, so I have the
"automatically change to DSLT" turned off. I change it manually. I
thought that error was rediculous for being one hour off of real time.
Heck, one time zone away I would be right on time.

At least now that you explained the reason, I better understand. I
always thought that the time being off was meaningless, but now it makes
sense. But, yea, one hour is stupid to complain about. From what I
recall, last fall or last spring I got that same thing around time
changing dates.

By the way. when I got that error a couple weeks ago, I just fixed the
clock and resent it.

Another AIOE quirk is that if a message cant be sent for some reason,
like lines being too long, such as huge website urls, sometimes after
you fix the problem you cant send the message because it will say the
"message has already been sent" (even thought it was not). It's an easy
fix. Change the subject line by one character. Add a period or
something. Then resend it.

AIOE also likes to complain about excessive quotes, so trim your quotes.
Actually I wish all news servers did that. Anything I hate is when
someone quotes a 120 line message, just to say 5 words.

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Old March 27th 12, 03:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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In ,
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:15:00 -0500, "BillW50" wrote:

In ,
Jeff T typed:
Are there any good, free newsservers?


I like "news.eternal-september.org" myself. If you want binary
newsgroups, then that would be a bad one.


I've tried eternal-september several times. They were originally
mozerella, and worked, but were down quite often, and I had to sign up
all over again when they lost the system records. When they switched
to eternal-september, my account was lost again. I had to sign up
once again, and shortly after that one would not work. Again I
signed up and used a different name. That lasted a month or two
before I could not connect again. That's when I gave up on them.
There's no reason a person should have to keep signing up over and
over, every few months or less.


I have been using them since 2007. And I only signed up once and that
was it. They have worked well on my machines here. They do clear out
users who hasn't logged on in past 120 days, so if you haven't you have
to reregister once again.

I now use AIOE. It works well 99.9% of the time. When it goes down,
it's usually back up in several hours. There are no binaries, but I
dont think any free servers have them.


I used to use AIOE before Mozerella. But service was going downhill back
then. Also spammers were using it a lot too. Which causes problems and
some were blocking anything coming from their servers.

Yes I too remember the CB craze from the 70's. I probably have a CB or
two from that era in a box somewhere. And I have heard that newsgroups
are dead for over 10 years now, but they are still here. And most of the
ones I hangout in are pretty well behaved.

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