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Same computer, new problem
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:54:52 -0500, "glee"
wrote: "Antares 531" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 11:02:34 -0500, "glee" wrote: (snip) The processor fan should be spinning continuously...it may go at variable speed depending on the load on the processor, but it must not ever stop spinning while the computer is on. The fan *may* have a built-in temp sensor to determine the speed at which it needs to spin,and that or the fan itself may be failing. Regardless, the CPU fan should be replaced by one specifically designed for that processor family,and for the heat sink it is installed on. I still have not been convinced from your last thread, that the PSU is free of defects either. Thanks, glee, for your insights into this set of problems. The processor fan is the one that came with the processor, and it has always worked well. After doing a re-boot using the mouse click sequence StartTurn off computer...Restart everything seems to work as it should. But, if I use the power button on the computer's case to turn the computer off, then start it with a mouse double click or with this same power button I get the CPU fan erratic behavior and the constant beep sound. I'm speculating that I may have made some bad settings in the BIOS yesterday when I activated the mouse double click as a means for starting the computer. I also set the boot sequence to 1. CD, 2. Hard drive, 3. floppy drive. I don't see how this could cause any problems, but maybe I inadvertently set something else into an unworkable state. You may be right about the power supply being the cause of at least some of the problems, but I can't figure out why it will operate for an extended time without any beeps or other indicated problems, the throw a hissy fit when I re-start the computer. Gordon, If you are "turning it off" with the button on the case, and then starting it by double-clicking the mouse, you are NOT turning it off, you are putting it to sleep or in hibernation. Did you configure in the BIOS for the button on the case to hibernate when pressed briefly, and to turn off if held down for 5 seconds? I assume when you actually shut down completely, you are using the Start Shutdown menu in Windows...correct? When it is shut down that way, a mouse click will not start the computer....you have to start it using the button on the case. Is that the way it is configured? Is the ONLY time you see the fan start and stop and start again, when you have it sleeping or hibernating, and you wake it? Is that also the only time you hear the beep? If you TOTALLY shut down, so the mouse will not start it, do you hear a beep or see the erratic fan behaviour at start up? Glee, I just checked this. I turned the computer off using the StartTurn off computerTurn Off sequence, then left it off for about 5 minutes. Then, without touching anything else I double clicked my mouse's left button and the computer started up, normally. This computer is running Windows XP Pro with SP 3 installed. Also, I set the BIOS settings such that I can use the mouse to start the computer. I'll do some more checking on this but I think I can shut down using the computer case power button, holding it for more than 5 seconds, then use the mouse left double click to start it again. The beep sound was there when I started this computer after lunch. It had been powered down for an hour or more, giving it enough time to cool off. This reinforces my thinking that this is a thermal problem, but I have no idea how to locate it other than one by one replacement of parts. Why would only the CPU fan be erratic if this is a power supply problem? I think all the fans are powered by the same output from the power supply. The fans probably have some kind of sensor that sends a signal to the CPU if the fan stops or fails. I set the BIOS such that any fan failure would produce a warning signal to me. So, is the fan actually failing, or is the fan sensor failing, or is the fan power supply failing or is there a thermal problem on the motherboard??? Gordon |
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Same computer, new problem
"Antares 531" wrote in message
... Glee, I just checked this. I turned the computer off using the StartTurn off computerTurn Off sequence, then left it off for about 5 minutes. Then, without touching anything else I double clicked my mouse's left button and the computer started up, normally. This computer is running Windows XP Pro with SP 3 installed. Also, I set the BIOS settings such that I can use the mouse to start the computer. I'll do some more checking on this but I think I can shut down using the computer case power button, holding it for more than 5 seconds, then use the mouse left double click to start it again. The beep sound was there when I started this computer after lunch. It had been powered down for an hour or more, giving it enough time to cool off. This reinforces my thinking that this is a thermal problem, but I have no idea how to locate it other than one by one replacement of parts. Why would only the CPU fan be erratic if this is a power supply problem? I think all the fans are powered by the same output from the power supply. The fans probably have some kind of sensor that sends a signal to the CPU if the fan stops or fails. I set the BIOS such that any fan failure would produce a warning signal to me. So, is the fan actually failing, or is the fan sensor failing, or is the fan power supply failing or is there a thermal problem on the motherboard??? Gordon The only time I've seen a CPU fan spin then stop then spin, is when there has been a power interruption to the fan, or the power supply was faulty. That doesn't mean that the only possibility...only that it is all I have seen. Just a little off-topic but I'm curious about this setting you turned on...... What is the exact wording of the BIOS setting you turned on to use the mouse to start the computer? In what section title of the BIOS setup is it located? -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 A+ http://dts-l.net/ |
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Same computer, new problem
"Antares 531" wrote in message
... Glee, I just checked this. I turned the computer off using the StartTurn off computerTurn Off sequence, then left it off for about 5 minutes. Then, without touching anything else I double clicked my mouse's left button and the computer started up, normally. This computer is running Windows XP Pro with SP 3 installed. Also, I set the BIOS settings such that I can use the mouse to start the computer. I'll do some more checking on this but I think I can shut down using the computer case power button, holding it for more than 5 seconds, then use the mouse left double click to start it again. The beep sound was there when I started this computer after lunch. It had been powered down for an hour or more, giving it enough time to cool off. This reinforces my thinking that this is a thermal problem, but I have no idea how to locate it other than one by one replacement of parts. Why would only the CPU fan be erratic if this is a power supply problem? I think all the fans are powered by the same output from the power supply. The fans probably have some kind of sensor that sends a signal to the CPU if the fan stops or fails. I set the BIOS such that any fan failure would produce a warning signal to me. So, is the fan actually failing, or is the fan sensor failing, or is the fan power supply failing or is there a thermal problem on the motherboard??? Gordon The only time I've seen a CPU fan spin then stop then spin, is when there has been a power interruption to the fan, or the power supply was faulty. That doesn't mean that the only possibility...only that it is all I have seen. Just a little off-topic but I'm curious about this setting you turned on...... What is the exact wording of the BIOS setting you turned on to use the mouse to start the computer? In what section title of the BIOS setup is it located? -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 A+ http://dts-l.net/ |
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Same computer, new problem
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:09:41 -0500, "glee"
wrote: "Antares 531" wrote in message .. . Glee, I just checked this. I turned the computer off using the StartTurn off computerTurn Off sequence, then left it off for about 5 minutes. Then, without touching anything else I double clicked my mouse's left button and the computer started up, normally. This computer is running Windows XP Pro with SP 3 installed. Also, I set the BIOS settings such that I can use the mouse to start the computer. I'll do some more checking on this but I think I can shut down using the computer case power button, holding it for more than 5 seconds, then use the mouse left double click to start it again. The beep sound was there when I started this computer after lunch. It had been powered down for an hour or more, giving it enough time to cool off. This reinforces my thinking that this is a thermal problem, but I have no idea how to locate it other than one by one replacement of parts. Why would only the CPU fan be erratic if this is a power supply problem? I think all the fans are powered by the same output from the power supply. The fans probably have some kind of sensor that sends a signal to the CPU if the fan stops or fails. I set the BIOS such that any fan failure would produce a warning signal to me. So, is the fan actually failing, or is the fan sensor failing, or is the fan power supply failing or is there a thermal problem on the motherboard??? Gordon The only time I've seen a CPU fan spin then stop then spin, is when there has been a power interruption to the fan, or the power supply was faulty. That doesn't mean that the only possibility...only that it is all I have seen. Just a little off-topic but I'm curious about this setting you turned on...... What is the exact wording of the BIOS setting you turned on to use the mouse to start the computer? In what section title of the BIOS setup is it located? Glee, the way I did this is hit the Delete key when the Post Screen appears during the boot process. This opens the BIOS screen. There are several items in the left column. Standard CMOS Features Advanced BIOS Features Integrated Peripherals Power Management Setup It's that last one that you need to highlight then press the enter key. On the next screen there are again several items. Near the bottom of the list is one; Power On By Mouse [Double Click] You can highlight this one then use the arrow keys to step through the options to the one you want to keep. Then, save and exit the BIOS setup. The boot process should completes, then the next time you do a full power down you can test your mouse click on this. Keep in mind that I'm using Windows XP Pro with SP3. This BIOS setup process is quite different in Windows 7 that I have on my new computer. Gordon |
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Same computer, new problem
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:09:41 -0500, "glee"
wrote: "Antares 531" wrote in message .. . Glee, I just checked this. I turned the computer off using the StartTurn off computerTurn Off sequence, then left it off for about 5 minutes. Then, without touching anything else I double clicked my mouse's left button and the computer started up, normally. This computer is running Windows XP Pro with SP 3 installed. Also, I set the BIOS settings such that I can use the mouse to start the computer. I'll do some more checking on this but I think I can shut down using the computer case power button, holding it for more than 5 seconds, then use the mouse left double click to start it again. The beep sound was there when I started this computer after lunch. It had been powered down for an hour or more, giving it enough time to cool off. This reinforces my thinking that this is a thermal problem, but I have no idea how to locate it other than one by one replacement of parts. Why would only the CPU fan be erratic if this is a power supply problem? I think all the fans are powered by the same output from the power supply. The fans probably have some kind of sensor that sends a signal to the CPU if the fan stops or fails. I set the BIOS such that any fan failure would produce a warning signal to me. So, is the fan actually failing, or is the fan sensor failing, or is the fan power supply failing or is there a thermal problem on the motherboard??? Gordon The only time I've seen a CPU fan spin then stop then spin, is when there has been a power interruption to the fan, or the power supply was faulty. That doesn't mean that the only possibility...only that it is all I have seen. Just a little off-topic but I'm curious about this setting you turned on...... What is the exact wording of the BIOS setting you turned on to use the mouse to start the computer? In what section title of the BIOS setup is it located? Glee, the way I did this is hit the Delete key when the Post Screen appears during the boot process. This opens the BIOS screen. There are several items in the left column. Standard CMOS Features Advanced BIOS Features Integrated Peripherals Power Management Setup It's that last one that you need to highlight then press the enter key. On the next screen there are again several items. Near the bottom of the list is one; Power On By Mouse [Double Click] You can highlight this one then use the arrow keys to step through the options to the one you want to keep. Then, save and exit the BIOS setup. The boot process should completes, then the next time you do a full power down you can test your mouse click on this. Keep in mind that I'm using Windows XP Pro with SP3. This BIOS setup process is quite different in Windows 7 that I have on my new computer. Gordon |
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Same computer, new problem
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:09:41 -0500, "glee"
wrote: "Antares 531" wrote in message .. . (snip) The only time I've seen a CPU fan spin then stop then spin, is when there has been a power interruption to the fan, or the power supply was faulty. That doesn't mean that the only possibility...only that it is all I have seen. Just a little off-topic but I'm curious about this setting you turned on...... What is the exact wording of the BIOS setting you turned on to use the mouse to start the computer? In what section title of the BIOS setup is it located? Glee, when you saw the CPU fan spin then stop then spin, did any of the other fans do the same thing, or did they keep running steadily? My video card fan and the case cooling air exhaust fan keep running, even when the CPU fan is skipping in and out. I think they are all powered from the same power supply output, so if the power supply was erratic it should affect all the fans together. I can't figure this one out. I'll keep working with it and hope for the best. Gordon |
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Same computer, new problem
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:09:41 -0500, "glee"
wrote: "Antares 531" wrote in message .. . (snip) The only time I've seen a CPU fan spin then stop then spin, is when there has been a power interruption to the fan, or the power supply was faulty. That doesn't mean that the only possibility...only that it is all I have seen. Just a little off-topic but I'm curious about this setting you turned on...... What is the exact wording of the BIOS setting you turned on to use the mouse to start the computer? In what section title of the BIOS setup is it located? Glee, when you saw the CPU fan spin then stop then spin, did any of the other fans do the same thing, or did they keep running steadily? My video card fan and the case cooling air exhaust fan keep running, even when the CPU fan is skipping in and out. I think they are all powered from the same power supply output, so if the power supply was erratic it should affect all the fans together. I can't figure this one out. I'll keep working with it and hope for the best. Gordon |
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Same computer, new problem
"glee" wrote in message "Antares 531" wrote in message ... Glee, I just checked this. I turned the computer off using the StartTurn off computerTurn Off sequence, then left it off for about 5 minutes. Then, without touching anything else I double clicked my mouse's left button and the computer started up, normally. This computer is running Windows XP Pro with SP 3 installed. Also, I set the BIOS settings such that I can use the mouse to start the computer. I'll do some more checking on this but I think I can shut down using the computer case power button, holding it for more than 5 seconds, then use the mouse left double click to start it again. The beep sound was there when I started this computer after lunch. It had been powered down for an hour or more, giving it enough time to cool off. This reinforces my thinking that this is a thermal problem, but I have no idea how to locate it other than one by one replacement of parts. Why would only the CPU fan be erratic if this is a power supply problem? I think all the fans are powered by the same output from the power supply. The fans probably have some kind of sensor that sends a signal to the CPU if the fan stops or fails. I set the BIOS such that any fan failure would produce a warning signal to me. So, is the fan actually failing, or is the fan sensor failing, or is the fan power supply failing or is there a thermal problem on the motherboard??? Gordon The only time I've seen a CPU fan spin then stop then spin, is when there has been a power interruption to the fan, or the power supply was faulty. That doesn't mean that the only possibility...only that it is all I have seen. Just a little off-topic but I'm curious about this setting you turned on...... What is the exact wording of the BIOS setting you turned on to use the mouse to start the computer? In what section title of the BIOS setup is it located? -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 A+ http://dts-l.net/ Glen, I've never seen the "mouse double click start" either but I wouldn't rule it out. I have a Matsonic mobo w/Award BIOS in my 98SE box and there is a Hot Key setting where the machine can be cold booted by pressing ctrl+f12. -- Brian A. Sesko Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://members.shaw.ca/dts-l/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 |
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Same computer, new problem
"Antares 531" wrote in message
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:09:41 -0500, "glee" wrote: "Antares 531" wrote in message . .. (snip) The only time I've seen a CPU fan spin then stop then spin, is when there has been a power interruption to the fan, or the power supply was faulty. That doesn't mean that the only possibility...only that it is all I have seen. Just a little off-topic but I'm curious about this setting you turned on...... What is the exact wording of the BIOS setting you turned on to use the mouse to start the computer? In what section title of the BIOS setup is it located? Glee, when you saw the CPU fan spin then stop then spin, did any of the other fans do the same thing, or did they keep running steadily? My video card fan and the case cooling air exhaust fan keep running, even when the CPU fan is skipping in and out. I think they are all powered from the same power supply output, so if the power supply was erratic it should affect all the fans together. I can't figure this one out. I'll keep working with it and hope for the best. Gordon Everything in the case is powered by the PSU, if one fan isn't operating properly and other fans are, it doesn't necessarily mean the PSU isn't failing. At this point I suggest replacing the CPU fan as it may very well be an overheating problem due to the fan being faulty. As I suggested earlier, you should test the PC with another PSU to rule it out or verify it as the cause. Shut the new PC down, toggle the PSU to Off, pull the power cord, disconnect "Every" PSU power connector in the new PC from the motherboard and components/devices, that means any/all wires with a connector that's connected gets disconnected. Once done you can connect the PSU to the old PCs motherboard and all of the components/devices installed. -- Brian A. Sesko Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://members.shaw.ca/dts-l/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 |
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Same computer, new problem
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:59:26 -0600, "Brian A."
gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote: "Antares 531" wrote in message On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:09:41 -0500, "glee" wrote: "Antares 531" wrote in message ... (snip) The only time I've seen a CPU fan spin then stop then spin, is when there has been a power interruption to the fan, or the power supply was faulty. That doesn't mean that the only possibility...only that it is all I have seen. Just a little off-topic but I'm curious about this setting you turned on...... What is the exact wording of the BIOS setting you turned on to use the mouse to start the computer? In what section title of the BIOS setup is it located? Glee, when you saw the CPU fan spin then stop then spin, did any of the other fans do the same thing, or did they keep running steadily? My video card fan and the case cooling air exhaust fan keep running, even when the CPU fan is skipping in and out. I think they are all powered from the same power supply output, so if the power supply was erratic it should affect all the fans together. I can't figure this one out. I'll keep working with it and hope for the best. Gordon Everything in the case is powered by the PSU, if one fan isn't operating properly and other fans are, it doesn't necessarily mean the PSU isn't failing. At this point I suggest replacing the CPU fan as it may very well be an overheating problem due to the fan being faulty. As I suggested earlier, you should test the PC with another PSU to rule it out or verify it as the cause. Shut the new PC down, toggle the PSU to Off, pull the power cord, disconnect "Every" PSU power connector in the new PC from the motherboard and components/devices, that means any/all wires with a connector that's connected gets disconnected. Once done you can connect the PSU to the old PCs motherboard and all of the components/devices installed. Thanks, Bryan, I'll try this as soon as I've completed some other "explorations." I'm still trying to understand why this power supply/CPU fan/beeping thing happens only when I first boot this computer in the morning, or after it has been shut down for a few hours. This must be some king of thermal problem. Once I've tried to boot and got the sporadic fan and beeping, then shut down, all the way, not just re-boot, then the computer will boot up and everything runs normally. I can then use this computer for several hours and the problem doesn't show up at all...until I've shut it down and let it cool off for a few hours. I'm also wondering if perhaps this could be caused a BIOS setting error of some sort. The CPU fan may have some settings that let it spin at different rates under different temperature conditions, and when everything is thoroughly cooled down this BIOS setting may not handle things properly. Gordon |
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On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:59:26 -0600, "Brian A."
gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote: "Antares 531" wrote in message On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:09:41 -0500, "glee" wrote: "Antares 531" wrote in message ... (snip) The only time I've seen a CPU fan spin then stop then spin, is when there has been a power interruption to the fan, or the power supply was faulty. That doesn't mean that the only possibility...only that it is all I have seen. Just a little off-topic but I'm curious about this setting you turned on...... What is the exact wording of the BIOS setting you turned on to use the mouse to start the computer? In what section title of the BIOS setup is it located? Glee, when you saw the CPU fan spin then stop then spin, did any of the other fans do the same thing, or did they keep running steadily? My video card fan and the case cooling air exhaust fan keep running, even when the CPU fan is skipping in and out. I think they are all powered from the same power supply output, so if the power supply was erratic it should affect all the fans together. I can't figure this one out. I'll keep working with it and hope for the best. Gordon Everything in the case is powered by the PSU, if one fan isn't operating properly and other fans are, it doesn't necessarily mean the PSU isn't failing. At this point I suggest replacing the CPU fan as it may very well be an overheating problem due to the fan being faulty. As I suggested earlier, you should test the PC with another PSU to rule it out or verify it as the cause. Shut the new PC down, toggle the PSU to Off, pull the power cord, disconnect "Every" PSU power connector in the new PC from the motherboard and components/devices, that means any/all wires with a connector that's connected gets disconnected. Once done you can connect the PSU to the old PCs motherboard and all of the components/devices installed. Thanks, Bryan, I'll try this as soon as I've completed some other "explorations." I'm still trying to understand why this power supply/CPU fan/beeping thing happens only when I first boot this computer in the morning, or after it has been shut down for a few hours. This must be some king of thermal problem. Once I've tried to boot and got the sporadic fan and beeping, then shut down, all the way, not just re-boot, then the computer will boot up and everything runs normally. I can then use this computer for several hours and the problem doesn't show up at all...until I've shut it down and let it cool off for a few hours. I'm also wondering if perhaps this could be caused a BIOS setting error of some sort. The CPU fan may have some settings that let it spin at different rates under different temperature conditions, and when everything is thoroughly cooled down this BIOS setting may not handle things properly. Gordon |
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On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:22:57 -0600, "Brian A."
gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote: "glee" wrote in message "Antares 531" wrote in message ... (snip) The only time I've seen a CPU fan spin then stop then spin, is when there has been a power interruption to the fan, or the power supply was faulty. That doesn't mean that the only possibility...only that it is all I have seen. Could this fan interruption be caused by a faulty fan speed control module on the motherboard? The BIOS provides means for setting the fan's on and off temperature values and also for regulating the fan's speed. Maybe the module that controls this is failing. I'm wondering if it might shed some light on this if I would plug the CPU fan into a different fan power socket on the motherboard. Gordon Just a little off-topic but I'm curious about this setting you turned on...... What is the exact wording of the BIOS setting you turned on to use the mouse to start the computer? In what section title of the BIOS setup is it located? -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 A+ http://dts-l.net/ Glen, I've never seen the "mouse double click start" either but I wouldn't rule it out. I have a Matsonic mobo w/Award BIOS in my 98SE box and there is a Hot Key setting where the machine can be cold booted by pressing ctrl+f12. Brian, I'm surprised to find that this double click left mouse start-up is so unusual. I've used it in other computers, and like it. This lets me keep the keyboard dead and inactive when the computer is shut down and not inadvertently bump some key that starts the computer. I checked this out carefully, this morning when I started this computer after it had been shut down over night. A double click on the left mouse button brought it alive. I know the computer had been shut down all the way, and not in hibernate or sleep mode. In fact, I had pulled the power cable just to be sure it wouldn't somehow try to come alive during the night and really mess things up. Gordon |
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On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:22:57 -0600, "Brian A."
gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote: "glee" wrote in message "Antares 531" wrote in message ... (snip) The only time I've seen a CPU fan spin then stop then spin, is when there has been a power interruption to the fan, or the power supply was faulty. That doesn't mean that the only possibility...only that it is all I have seen. Could this fan interruption be caused by a faulty fan speed control module on the motherboard? The BIOS provides means for setting the fan's on and off temperature values and also for regulating the fan's speed. Maybe the module that controls this is failing. I'm wondering if it might shed some light on this if I would plug the CPU fan into a different fan power socket on the motherboard. Gordon Just a little off-topic but I'm curious about this setting you turned on...... What is the exact wording of the BIOS setting you turned on to use the mouse to start the computer? In what section title of the BIOS setup is it located? -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 A+ http://dts-l.net/ Glen, I've never seen the "mouse double click start" either but I wouldn't rule it out. I have a Matsonic mobo w/Award BIOS in my 98SE box and there is a Hot Key setting where the machine can be cold booted by pressing ctrl+f12. Brian, I'm surprised to find that this double click left mouse start-up is so unusual. I've used it in other computers, and like it. This lets me keep the keyboard dead and inactive when the computer is shut down and not inadvertently bump some key that starts the computer. I checked this out carefully, this morning when I started this computer after it had been shut down over night. A double click on the left mouse button brought it alive. I know the computer had been shut down all the way, and not in hibernate or sleep mode. In fact, I had pulled the power cable just to be sure it wouldn't somehow try to come alive during the night and really mess things up. Gordon |
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On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:28:31 -0600, Antares 531
wrote: On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 09:25:25 -0600, Antares 531 wrote: I have an older computer with a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L motherboard that I home-built a few years back. I recently built a new computer and have been keeping the old one alive until I get the new one all checked out and settled in. Yesterday the old computer wouldn't boot. It makes a BEEP about one second long during the boot process but won't go any farther. The drive lights flash and the monitor goes through its first sign of lighting up, after I turn the computer on, but this is as far as it goes. The monitor goes black and the activity lights on the front of the computer flash a few times, then everything stops. I've tried using the original Windows XP Pro installation disk, and also a second boot disk that I slipstreamed with SP3 on it. Neither boot disk will initiate a start-up process. The CD drive light flashes a few times then quits and nothing more happens after the BEEP. Any ideas as to what I might try next? Thanks, Gordon I finally got the above problem resolved and for a day or so this old computer worked very well. But, this morning when I turned it on after being shut down overnight I got a continuous beep. Everything seemed to be working okay but the beep didn't stop. I opened the case and noticed the CPU fan was running in short bursts of about 2 seconds then stopping for about the same length of time. This continued until I shut the computer down and re-booted...cold boot. After this, the fan ran constantly and there was no more beeping. This computer has an Intel Core 2 Duo processor E6750, LGA 775 Pkg 2.66 GHZ, 4MB L2 Cache, 1333 MHz FSB. Is this an indication of something in the process of failing or was it just a fluke of some sort? Thanks for your insights, Gordon I just came across the following site and now I'm wondering if maybe all my recent spate of problems might have been caused by the NVIDIA Drivers. Do any of you have any further insights into this. http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=7551 Here's the opening clip from this site in case you don't have time to visit it and read the full text. I’m getting a steady stream of reports in from NVIDIA users that the latest 196.75 drivers can cause severe cooling problems, even possibly resulting in the death of the hardware. The problem seems to be related to the fan controller, causing the fans to slow down, and even stop. This happening while the card is in use is a very bad thing indeed, and can cause poor performance (as the GPU tries to cool itself down by reducing power) and possibly even overheat your GPU to the point where the card stops working. ---copy/paste from web site--- NVIDIA 196.75 drivers were released on Marc 2nd, and have now been removed from the download site. If you are running these drivers it is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED that you uninstall this driver and immediately downgrade to the 196.21 drivers. |
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Same computer, new problem
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:28:31 -0600, Antares 531
wrote: On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 09:25:25 -0600, Antares 531 wrote: I have an older computer with a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L motherboard that I home-built a few years back. I recently built a new computer and have been keeping the old one alive until I get the new one all checked out and settled in. Yesterday the old computer wouldn't boot. It makes a BEEP about one second long during the boot process but won't go any farther. The drive lights flash and the monitor goes through its first sign of lighting up, after I turn the computer on, but this is as far as it goes. The monitor goes black and the activity lights on the front of the computer flash a few times, then everything stops. I've tried using the original Windows XP Pro installation disk, and also a second boot disk that I slipstreamed with SP3 on it. Neither boot disk will initiate a start-up process. The CD drive light flashes a few times then quits and nothing more happens after the BEEP. Any ideas as to what I might try next? Thanks, Gordon I finally got the above problem resolved and for a day or so this old computer worked very well. But, this morning when I turned it on after being shut down overnight I got a continuous beep. Everything seemed to be working okay but the beep didn't stop. I opened the case and noticed the CPU fan was running in short bursts of about 2 seconds then stopping for about the same length of time. This continued until I shut the computer down and re-booted...cold boot. After this, the fan ran constantly and there was no more beeping. This computer has an Intel Core 2 Duo processor E6750, LGA 775 Pkg 2.66 GHZ, 4MB L2 Cache, 1333 MHz FSB. Is this an indication of something in the process of failing or was it just a fluke of some sort? Thanks for your insights, Gordon I just came across the following site and now I'm wondering if maybe all my recent spate of problems might have been caused by the NVIDIA Drivers. Do any of you have any further insights into this. http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=7551 Here's the opening clip from this site in case you don't have time to visit it and read the full text. I’m getting a steady stream of reports in from NVIDIA users that the latest 196.75 drivers can cause severe cooling problems, even possibly resulting in the death of the hardware. The problem seems to be related to the fan controller, causing the fans to slow down, and even stop. This happening while the card is in use is a very bad thing indeed, and can cause poor performance (as the GPU tries to cool itself down by reducing power) and possibly even overheat your GPU to the point where the card stops working. ---copy/paste from web site--- NVIDIA 196.75 drivers were released on Marc 2nd, and have now been removed from the download site. If you are running these drivers it is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED that you uninstall this driver and immediately downgrade to the 196.21 drivers. |
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