mstsc: micro text ???

Hi All,

Yes, I am cross posting. The subject matter deals with both.


Client: Windows 10 Pro - 1809
Server: Windows 7 Pro SP1

YIKES !!!! Micro text !!! It is so small that it is
impossible to read !!!

How do I increase the font size? (wfreerdp scales fine,
but it has issues of its own.)

https://social.technet.microsoft.com...10itprogeneral
was ZERO help.

Many thanks,
-T

T wrote:

Client: Windows 10 Pro - 1809
Server: Windows 7 Pro SP1

YIKES !!!!Â*Â* Micro textÂ* !!!Â*Â*Â* It is so small that it is
impossible to read !!!

How do I increase the font size?

RDCman instead of MSTSC can help, needs some tinkering with the settings
though.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=44989

On 8/23/19 2:10 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
T wrote:

Client: Windows 10 Pro - 1809
Server: Windows 7 Pro SP1

YIKES !!!!Â*Â* Micro textÂ* !!!Â*Â*Â* It is so small that it is
impossible to read !!!

How do I increase the font size?

RDCman instead of MSTSC can help, needs some tinkering with the settings
though.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=44989


Hi Andy,

Thank you!

I think RDCman is more for server based terminal service
administration. The server in this instance is running
of Windows 7 Pro.

Am I missing something?

-T

T wrote:

I think RDCman is more for server based terminal service
administration.Â* The server in this instance is running
of Windows 7 Pro.

It is meant for that, but I have a customer with a surface (stupidly
high res screen) who uses it to connect back to Win10 desktop in offic
(merely fullHD) was previously Win7, and with careful tweaks to
settings, you can make it readable ...

T wrote:

Client: Windows 10 Pro - 1809
Server: Windows 7 Pro SP1

YIKES !!!! Micro text !!! It is so small that it is
impossible to read !!!

How do I increase the font size? (wfreerdp scales fine,
but it has issues of its own.)

Screen resolution on your end?
Screen resolutios on the remote host's end?
DPI on the remote host?
Just some things to look at.

https://social.technet.microsoft.com...10itprogeneral
was ZERO help.

But neither were you.

On 8/23/19 2:37 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Screen resolution on your end?
Screen resolutios on the remote host's end?
DPI on the remote host?
Just some things to look at.

from memory:

server: medium fonts and 96 dpi, 1150 by xxx or some such

client: large fonts, 1920 x 1080, 96 dpi

Played around with these, made no difference.


But neither were you.

Exactly how do you answer such a question? He clearly
did not have the knowledge to help. I thought I was
quite polite, even though I though he was a bit ...

On 8/23/19 2:28 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
T wrote:

I think RDCman is more for server based terminal service
administration.Â* The server in this instance is running
of Windows 7 Pro.

It is meant for that, but I have a customer with a surface (stupidly
high res screen) who uses it to connect back to Win10 desktop in offic
(merely fullHD) was previously Win7, and with careful tweaks to
settings, you can make it readable ...

Cool. Will try it out next log in.


This goes on the server side, I presume?

On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 22:10:45 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:

T wrote:

Client: Windows 10 Pro - 1809
Server: Windows 7 Pro SP1

YIKES !!!!** Micro text* !!!*** It is so small that it is
impossible to read !!!

How do I increase the font size?

Sometimes you can hold down the 'Ctrl' key and rotate the mouse wheel
to increase or decrease the font size.

On 8/23/19 2:28 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
T wrote:

I think RDCman is more for server based terminal service
administration.Â* The server in this instance is running
of Windows 7 Pro.

It is meant for that, but I have a customer with a surface (stupidly
high res screen) who uses it to connect back to Win10 desktop in offic
(merely fullHD) was previously Win7, and with careful tweaks to
settings, you can make it readable ...


Hi Andy,

I installed and opened it on both the client and their server.
figured out it was meant to run on the client, so I removed it from the
server.

This is one sweet tool! I copied it to my stick to carry
with me to customer sites. Thank you!

Unfortunately, I can set the screen to a different resultion, but
unfortunately, it just creates a different sized window
with the same micro text.

Poop!

-T

On 8/23/19 6:05 PM, Monty wrote:
On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 22:10:45 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:

T wrote:

Client: Windows 10 Pro - 1809
Server: Windows 7 Pro SP1

YIKES !!!!Â*Â* Micro textÂ* !!!Â*Â*Â* It is so small that it is
impossible to read !!!

How do I increase the font size?

Sometimes you can hold down the 'Ctrl' key and rotate the mouse wheel
to increase or decrease the font size.


It only affects the icon sizes. Program text is still microscopic.

Rat!

Thank you anyway

-T

T wrote:
Hi All,

Yes, I am cross posting. The subject matter deals with both.


Client: Windows 10 Pro - 1809
Server: Windows 7 Pro SP1

YIKES !!!! Micro text !!! It is so small that it is
impossible to read !!!

How do I increase the font size? (wfreerdp scales fine,
but it has issues of its own.)

https://social.technet.microsoft.com...10itprogeneral

was ZERO help.

Many thanks,
-T

Part of the problem, is likely "too many variables".

https://forums.windowscentral.com/mi...g-how-fix.html

The behavior of what you're remoting into, is part of the problem.

The resolution of the viewing device also seems to be part of
the problem, as they use different techniques when the
viewing device is a HiDPI Surface product.

At one point, Windows 10 had a font control screen, with five
items and point size settings, and this allowed control. But
this was removed - why, who knows. Maybe it generated too many
phone calls for Tech Support, or the GUI experts said it
needed to be "dumbed down to uselessness". You know how that
works by now. Even Linux has inherited "dumbing down" as
a thing (file managers).

Paul

On 8/23/19 8:42 PM, Paul wrote:
T wrote:
Hi All,

Yes, I am cross posting. The subject matter deals with both.


Client: Windows 10 Pro - 1809
Server: Windows 7 Pro SP1

YIKES !!!!Â*Â* Micro textÂ* !!!Â*Â*Â* It is so small that it is
impossible to read !!!

How do I increase the font size?Â* (wfreerdp scales fine,
but it has issues of its own.)

https://social.technet.microsoft.com...10itprogeneral

was ZERO help.

Many thanks,
-T

Part of the problem, is likely "too many variables".

https://forums.windowscentral.com/mi...g-how-fix.html


The behavior of what you're remoting into, is part of the problem.

The resolution of the viewing device also seems to be part of
the problem, as they use different techniques when the
viewing device is a HiDPI Surface product.

At one point, Windows 10 had a font control screen, with five
items and point size settings, and this allowed control. But
this was removed - why, who knows. Maybe it generated too many
phone calls for Tech Support, or the GUI experts said it
needed to be "dumbed down to uselessness". You know how that
works by now. Even Linux has inherited "dumbing down" as
a thing (file managers).

Â*Â* Paul

Thank you!

WfreeRDP works, but you have to fuss with the screen size. From
what I can tell it is half what you think of it. But you get
nice big fonts.

Just figure out on wfreerdp that

/drive:home:c:

the the c: has to be lower case.

T wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Screen resolution on your end?
Screen resolutios on the remote host's end?
DPI on the remote host?
Just some things to look at.

from memory:

server: medium fonts and 96 dpi, 1150 by xxx or some such

client: large fonts, 1920 x 1080, 96 dpi

Played around with these, made no difference.

Did you make sure the client's remote host's resolution is smaller than
your local host's resolution. The local host has to show its own
desktop, the window for the RDP client, and then the remote host's
desktop inside the window.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...window-to-full

Check you aren't using full screen on the remote host. Go into the RDP
settings and move the slider back for the display size. As I recall,
you must set the remote host's screen size BEFORE you connect to it.
This updates the .rdp definition file for that connection.

After you do a Save As to create/update the .rdp file, you can enable
smart sizing by adding the following line at the end of the .rdp file:

smart sizing:i:1

See:
https://blog.concurrency.com/blog/w/...op-ui,-at-last.

https://i.stack.imgur.com/MmSkB.jpg

T snipped the link to his forum post. The following is not reply content within this thread.
But neither were you.

Exactly how do you answer such a question? He clearly
did not have the knowledge to help. I thought I was
quite polite, even though I though he was a bit ...

He wanted details, just like I asked here (but I asked for specific
details). Your response was basically "I don't need to give no stinking
details. Just fix it without any details." Well, that request isn't
working here, either. Your response comes off as a petulant user that
has absolutely no computer expertise. Maybe you wanted to portray an
uber-boob over there.

On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 18:36:52 -0700, T wrote:

YIKES !!!!Â*Â* Micro textÂ* !!!Â*Â*Â* It is so small that it is
impossible to read !!!

How do I increase the font size?

Sometimes you can hold down the 'Ctrl' key and rotate the mouse wheel
to increase or decrease the font size.


It only affects the icon sizes. Program text is still microscopic.

Ctrl +/- changes text size in applications sometimes.

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please send any emails to the address below
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On 8/23/19 10:50 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
T wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Did you make sure the client's remote host's resolution is smaller than
your local host's resolution.

No. And it does not matter. RDP scales to the client's monitor and
does not care what the hosts monitor is.

The local host has to show its own
desktop, the window for the RDP client, and then the remote host's
desktop inside the window.

Check you aren't using full screen on the remote host.

Windowed or full screen, symptom is the same. Again,
RDP scales to the client's screen, not the host's. Don't
confuse RDP with GoToMyPC or VNC.

Go into the RDP
settings and move the slider back for the display size.

That setting only creates a smaller window with scroll
bars. The size of everything inside the window does
not change. It is still set to the clients full screen.

As I recall,
you must set the remote host's screen size BEFORE you connect to it.
This updates the .rdp definition file for that connection.

After you do a Save As to create/update the .rdp file, you can enable
smart sizing by adding the following line at the end of the .rdp file:

smart sizing:i:1

Same window, same scroll bars, same s*** inside. Sizing is only the
window, not the contents. The contents are still sized to the
clients full screen.

There "was" a now pulled hot patch for this at M$:

You cannot change the DPI setting through a Remote Desktop session
on a computer that is running Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2


https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...top-session-on

The description is pretty clear and will help you understand the issue:

Symptoms:

Assume that you use a Remote Desktop session to connect to
a computer that is running Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2.
In this situation, you cannot change the dots per inch (DPI)
setting on the computer.

Note The DPI setting enables you to change the size of all fonts
and other UI elements on the computer. For example, you change
the setting to increase the legibility of the UI.

See:
https://blog.concurrency.com/blog/w/...op-ui,-at-last.

https://i.stack.imgur.com/MmSkB.jpg

Exactly how do you answer such a question? He clearly
did not have the knowledge to help. I thought I was
quite polite, even though I though he was a bit ...

He wanted details, just like I asked here (but I asked for specific
details). Your response was basically "I don't need to give no stinking
details. Just fix it without any details." Well, that request isn't
working here, either. Your response comes off as a petulant user that
has absolutely no computer expertise. Maybe you wanted to portray an
uber-boob over there.

Oh brother Vanguard. He did not know how RDP worked
any more than you just demonstrated that you did.
I was polite to both of you.

And that does not mean that I don't appreciate your help.
You are typically encyclopedic and a mensch too boot.
And you are only sometimes crabby, as are all of us.

-T