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Philosophically, how do you "organize" two monitors (only applicable to those of you with dual monitors)
Philosophically, how do you "organize" two monitors?
(the question is only applicable to those of you with dual monitors) I'm a noob at Windows/Android where the IDE is so complex that one false move causes tremendously different things to happen, so I added a second monitor just so that I could start:stop:backup:repeat play video tutorials in one monitor and then try to reproduce those actions in another monitor. https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com/0dR8Lodl/report-my-first-hello-world-using-android-studio-freeware-on-windows-worked-just-fine-in-about-an#post18 That works fine, but now I use dual monitors for everything. Hence the issue of windows popping up comes to the fore. For example, sometimes I doubleclick on a taskbar icon and the result pops up in monitorleft, while other times it pops up in monitorright. Where it pops up seems to simply be the last place it was put, where it seems that, for efficiency, a set of "guidelines" should be in place for efficiency (i.e., one should never have to search is a maxim I employ). Often, when there are a lot of windows, I find myself glancing left and right to *find* where that window popped up. If you have dual monitors, you'll know what I mean (if you don't have dual monitors, you'll have lots of solutions because you won't understand the problem - where those with the most solutions least understand the issues). *What's a good philosophy for which windows go where?* For example: o My taskbar is only on the left monitor, so everything opens from left. o I have browsers opening at left because you generally read left to right. o I have file systems opening on the right because mice are to the right. But what else do you do, philosophically, to streamline the use of dual monitors? |
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Philosophically, how do you "organize" two monitors (only applicable to those of you with dual monitors)
So because a person with only one monitor in your mind has no knowledge of
what two monitors look like? You are not as bright as you say you are.... I have 3 monitors but I'll be damned if I'd take the time to tell you a solution after the way you talk down to others. You sir - a first class ass. Bob S. |
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Philosophically, how do you "organize" two monitors (only applicable to those of you with dual monitors)
In message , Bob_S
writes: So because a person with only one monitor in your mind has no knowledge of what two monitors look like? I sincerely hope no-one has a monitor in my mind. You are not as bright as you say you are.... Whatever I may think, I'm usually quite careful not to _say_ that I'm bright. I have 3 monitors but I'll be damned if I'd take the time to tell you a solution after the way you talk down to others. I haven't done that. You sir - a first class ass. By posting a post like this one (especially adding newsgroups as you appear to have done, as this is the first I've seen of this thread in the 'group _I_ am reading it in), without quoting anything or saying to whom you are replying, I think readers can make their own minds as to who is an ass, of whatever class. Bob S. John G. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf did you hear about the guy who was frozen to absolute zero? He was 0K ... - Jason in alt.windows7.general (and three other 'groups), 2018-5-1 |
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Philosophically, how do you "organize" two monitors (only applicable to those of you with dual monitors)
In message , arlen michael holder
writes: Philosophically, how do you "organize" two monitors? (the question is only applicable to those of you with dual monitors) I'm a noob at Windows/Android where the IDE is so complex that one false (What's an IDE - is it another "word" for user interface?) [] That works fine, but now I use dual monitors for everything. Hence the issue of windows popping up comes to the fore. For example, sometimes I doubleclick on a taskbar icon and the result pops up in monitorleft, while other times it pops up in monitorright. Where it pops up seems to simply be the last place it was put, where it seems that, for efficiency, a set of "guidelines" should be in place for efficiency (i.e., one should never have to search is a maxim I employ). Some people might consider a window popping up in _other_ than the last place it was put is a _cause_ of searching; it depends on whether you remember where it was when you minimised/closed it, or not. (Neither viewpoint is _wrong_; they're just different.) I suspect this applies whether you have one monitor or many. Often, when there are a lot of windows, I find myself glancing left and right to *find* where that window popped up. If you have dual monitors, you'll know what I mean (if you don't have dual monitors, you'll have lots of solutions because you won't understand the problem - where those with the most solutions least understand the issues). *What's a good philosophy for which windows go where?* For example: o My taskbar is only on the left monitor, so everything opens from left. o I have browsers opening at left because you generally read left to right. o I have file systems opening on the right because mice are to the right. Those "so/because/because" may seem logical ("a good philosophy") for you, but won't for many (on the third one, for example, not everyone's pointing device is on the right - and even if it is, the attachment of [only?] "file systems" to the pointing device isn't obvious, to me anyway). But what else do you do, philosophically, to streamline the use of dual monitors? A good question, though I suspect answers will be so personal - or usage-specific - that we won't come up with anything of wide usefulness. But I might be wrong there. I suspect we might get _some_ people who think their way/answer is the best one, though. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities. - Ayn Rand, quoted by Deb Shinder 2012-3-30 |
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Philosophically, how do you "organize" two monitors (only applicableto those of you with dual monitors)
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
By posting a post like this one (especially adding newsgroups as you appear to have done He didn't add newsgroups. All three messages are to: alt.windows7.general microsoft.public.windowsxp.general You could easily have found the original post. By using the MIDs in the References on the header of the Bob_S message. http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi....mixmin.net%3E Paul |
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Philosophically, how do you "organize" two monitors (only applicable to those of you with dual monitors)
Paul,
That url you posted to find newsgroup messages back using the reference, http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...sgid&A=0&MSGI= .... is that available to any random dude (myself included :-) ) ? (asking because of a persons name in the domain name). Sometimes I've got the need to do such a search, but throwing it into Google mostly hasn't given me what I was after ... Regards, Rudy Wieser |
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Philosophically, how do you "organize" two monitors (only applicable to those of you with dual monitors)
In message , Paul
writes: J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: By posting a post like this one (especially adding newsgroups as you appear to have done He didn't add newsgroups. All three messages are to: alt.windows7.general microsoft.public.windowsxp.general You could easily have found the original post. By using the MIDs in the References on the header of the Bob_S message. http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...%3Cpsn5sc%242h 3%241%40news.mixmin.net%3E Paul You are correct. I know why I didn't see the original. My fault. The rest of my comments stand though (-: -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf If you're playing a killer monster, be very quiet. - Anthony Hopkins, RT 2016/10/22-28 |
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Philosophically, how do you "organize" two monitors (only applicable to those of you with dual monitors)
John,
So because a person with only one monitor in your mind has no knowledge of what two monitors look like? .... I sincerely hope no-one has a monitor in my mind. .... The rest of my comments stand though (-: I think you read that one the wrong way around : Its about persons who have only a single monitor (implanted) in(to) Arlens mind. Which I do not quite understand, because why would anyone want or need to put more than one into such a brain ? :-) Also, while I suspect there shrinks would actually benefit from being able to do so, I'm quite certain that most of us here would not enjoy it in the least. :-p Regards, Rudy Wieser |
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Philosophically, how do you "organize" two monitors (only applicable to those of you with dual monitors)
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
| I'm a noob at Windows/Android where the IDE is so complex that one false | | (What's an IDE - is it another "word" for user interface?) Integrated development environment. Like Visual Studio. Generally used to refer to programming tools where you can get at anything you need through a single UI. A code editor will usually have things like debugging, but an IDE will provide access to work as a "project", allowing you to deal with all files, resources, compiler, docs, etc through the single program window. IDE is a somewhat stuffy term, but we can be thankful that Microsoft don't call it a Next Gen Solutionizing Modern Software Solution for Enterprise Services. Then we'd have to say NGSMSSES and people would probably fight over how to pronounce it. Is it "nagsmisses" or "nig some esses"? [Hint: Losers say nig some esses.] If I understand correctly, Arlen is talking about making Android phone apps with a tool that Microsoft provides, and despite trying to exert military discipline over the IDE, it isn't listening to him. Which of course has nothing whatever to do with Win7 or XP. I doubt the MS code editor will run on the latter. |
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[OT] How (not) to show parent of current article. (was: Philosophically, how do you "organize" two monitors (only applicable to those of you with dual monitors))
Paul wrote:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: By posting a post like this one (especially adding newsgroups as you appear to have done He didn't add newsgroups. All three messages are to: alt.windows7.general microsoft.public.windowsxp.general You could easily have found the original post. By using the MIDs in the References on the header of the Bob_S message. http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi....mixmin.net%3E Why go to all that trouble? I've yet to encounter a newsreader (the software) which does not have the capability to show the 'parent' of the article you're currently looking at. 'Even' simple GUI newsreaders like OE/WM/WLM/TB, etc. can do that by just 'opening' the thread in the threads pane and see in which branch/subthread the current post is and look 'up' the thread to see the parent. In my CUI newsreader (tin) it's even simpler. I just press 'u' - for up the thread - to see the parent, 'u' again to see the grandparent, etc.. So John may want to have a look if Turnpike does (not) have this essential functionality. |
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Philosophically, how do you "organize" two monitors (only applicable to those of you with dual monitors)
On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 12:35:27 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: In message , Paul writes: J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: By posting a post like this one (especially adding newsgroups as you appear to have done He didn't add newsgroups. All three messages are to: alt.windows7.general microsoft.public.windowsxp.general You could easily have found the original post. By using the MIDs in the References on the header of the Bob_S message. http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...%3Cpsn5sc%242h 3%241%40news.mixmin.net%3E Paul You are correct. I know why I didn't see the original. My fault. The rest of my comments stand though (-: With all due respect, I thought your entire post completely missed the mark, which is extremely unusual for you. Bob_S was right on, IMHO, although he might have quoted something to help folks understand to whom he was responding. (the troll, arlen, obviously) -- Char Jackson |
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[OT] How (not) to show parent of current article. (was: Philosophically, how do you "organize" two monitors (only applicable to those of you with dual monitors))
Frank,
'Even' simple GUI newsreaders like OE Yes, even back in OE5 you could switch between a sorted on date/name/subject/etc list and a thread tree. But that always needs to be done by toolbar - "view" - "currrent view" - "group messages by conversation" (I've never seen (an addition for) a simple (switch between list and tree) button for it). It also drops any message focus it might have had, leaving it upto the user to find it back again. Which is no fun in a long thread that has several/many subthreads. .... Which is also the reason why I seldom switch from one to the other. Its often easier to switch to "sort by subject" (from the defailt "sort by date") and than looking up a bit. Also, your "go to parent" probably breaks when you have certain posters blocked - and which probably is why John didn't see the parent message in the first place. Regards, Rudy Wieser |
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Philosophically, how do you "organize" two monitors (only applicableto those of you with dual monitors)
R.Wieser wrote:
Paul, That url you posted to find newsgroup messages back using the reference, http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...sgid&A=0&MSGI= .... is that available to any random dude (myself included :-) ) ? (asking because of a persons name in the domain name). Sometimes I've got the need to do such a search, but throwing it into Google mostly hasn't given me what I was after ... Regards, Rudy Wieser It doesn't "give threading for free", that site. But it is useful, in cases where you want to generate a web page for someone, so they can see source material without having to fumble around with other stuff. http://al.howardknight.net/ It's better than Google, because it includes alt.windows7.general. It's worse than Google, because long messages get truncated. Howard had to add the truncation feature, after movie pirates decided to try to fill it with movie uploads and then use it as their bitch. So Howard retaliated by ruining the archive, and truncating *any* long message, not just ones with obvious movie payloads. Which is a smart move on Howards part, as the movie pirates can't game the system if all long posts are ruined. So if a post is really long, you can't read all of it on the resulting web page. Paul |
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[OT] How (not) to show parent of current article.
Frank Slootweg wrote:
Paul wrote: J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: By posting a post like this one (especially adding newsgroups as you appear to have done He didn't add newsgroups. All three messages are to: alt.windows7.general microsoft.public.windowsxp.general You could easily have found the original post. By using the MIDs in the References on the header of the Bob_S message. http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi....mixmin.net%3E Why go to all that trouble? When a message hasn't yet shown up on a server for some reason, Howard is my backup system. If I need someone to see a message *right now*, I generate a reference using Howard. That's why I used it. In case John couldn't see the message where he is sitting. Right now, some messages are coming into E-S about 12 hours late. And it almost looks like the spool is corrupted right now. That's why I'm reading and posting via AIOE for the time being. Paul |
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Philosophically, how do you "organize" two monitors (only applicableto those of you with dual monitors)
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , arlen michael holder writes: Philosophically, how do you "organize" two monitors? (the question is only applicable to those of you with dual monitors) I'm a noob at Windows/Android where the IDE is so complex that one false (What's an IDE - is it another "word" for user interface?) A neat thing about an IDE, is you can run a program you just wrote, attach a debugger, and when you hit a breakpoint, the text editor in the IDE "jumps" to the line of code where the program is currently stopped. This is an aid to debugging, saving developer time opening files manually. A number of features are "Integrated" together, to improve workflow efficiency. Doing things like Syntax Coloring in the text editor, makes your glaring errors stand out better :-) Compared to writing C in Notepad (which is what I use when making 60 line programs for MinGW). Paul |
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