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  #436  
Old December 12th 19, 09:32 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Carlos E.R.[_3_]
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On 08/12/2019 19.53, Mayayana wrote:
"Ken Springer" wrote

| "Microsofties"... meaning all programmers writing code for Windows, or
| just MS programmers?
|

MS programmers. The actual software they write usually
seems very clean and well done to me. Windows is amazing.
IE is amazing. Their tools are amazing. Without the greed
and strategizing it could be an incredible system. Though
there are some exceptions. The people who wrote the
scripting runtime (scrrun.dll) made quite a mess of it. And
of course IE is an ungodly mess, but that's only because
of Microsoft's ulterior motives. The actual software is
brilliant and beautifully put together. And they've been way
ahead of their time on multiple occasions. (The SPOT
watch could have beat the iPhone to creating the Dick
Tracy era, if only the wireless access had been there and
the thing hadn't looked like a tin potato.)


I had to program professionally using libraries and APIs made by
microsoft, and sometimes they were a bag of rubish. Stupid results from
the functions that were not as documented.

Long ago there was a pascal compiler made by microsoft. I met it because
the college I was at used it. It was horrible. Then Borland came with
Turbo Pascal and dominated the scene for years. THOSE were really
amazing tools they made.

Like the same code that compiled in a second with tpascal but took
minutes in "pascal", at a price more than ten times larger.

--
Cheers, Carlos.
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  #437  
Old December 12th 19, 10:02 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Carlos E.R.[_3_]
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On 08/12/2019 23.30, Mayayana wrote:
"Ken Springer" wrote

| Isn't the graphics coding done by graphics card makers and not MS?
|
Good question. I don't really know. I would guess that
they do at least some. At one time it was left to Linux
people to write drivers for Linux, but I suppose someone
like ATI probably writes Windows drivers. So I don't
know how to explain the difference in display.


Linux people do write graphics drivers, like for NVidia, but as many
companies refuse to publish the specs, they have to make do with reverse
engineering. Thus the drivers arrive later and may not have all the
features, like 3D. On the other hand the 2D open driver is very reliable
and stable.

Some companies, like that NVidia, publish closed source drivers for use
in Linux. As they are closed source, they have integration, legal, and
distribution problems. But they allow similar performance as their
Windows equivalents.

This situation makes very difficult to investigate problems that may be
partly due to the driver or to the kernel. Both sides do not coordinate
well (one wants secrecy, and the other wants full public view).


A problem example that affects me, my Nvidia card has about 10 years,
which means that the driver is obsolete and little maintained by Nvidia
(legacy driver?), which means that lacks certain modern features in
Linux that are needed by some demanding apps like the flight simulator.


People say that AMD integrates better, more open. Intel even better.


As an example of good coordination, consider exFAT, a very proprietary
format of Microsoft, useful for memory cards and sticks. AFAIK Linux
kernel people refused to implement it (via reverse engineering) for
legal reasons. But other people implemented a driver outside of the
kernel, in userland.

However, recently Microsoft listened to the demands, not only from
Linux, but card makers and camera makers, to open the format. And they
did so.

https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3080947/microsoft-exfat-open-source-linux-kernel

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/fileio/exfat-specification

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT

«On 28 August 2019, Microsoft published the exFAT specification for
the first time[7], and new driver was included in Linux kernel version
5.4.»


Most often, Linux devs do not demand that makers create Linux drivers.
What they want are the specs so that they can write drivers, at no cost
to the manufacturers. But they often prefer secrecy.


--
Cheers, Carlos.
  #438  
Old December 12th 19, 10:07 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Carlos E.R.[_3_]
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On 09/12/2019 20.14, Mayayana wrote:
"Ken Blake" wrote

| But personally I think choosing a program because it does two different
| things is a mistake. It's best to choose the program for each thing
| that works the best for you.

Makes sense. But I've always used OE and it
does what I want. I also have a system for backing
up old email. And I never read or write email or
usenet posts in anything but plain text. So there's
really no reason to need anything else.


Backing up email in Thunderbird is trivial, no need to "import": the
folders are just text files, basically the same format as Unix/Linux
uses for email (mbox). Thus they can be moved trivially, even across
several different applications. The indexes can be ignored and recreated
empty: then Thunderbird will populate them from scratch.

--
Cheers, Carlos.
  #439  
Old December 12th 19, 10:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 08/12/2019 19.53, Mayayana wrote:
"Ken Springer" wrote

| "Microsofties"... meaning all programmers writing code for Windows, or
| just MS programmers?
|

MS programmers. The actual software they write usually
seems very clean and well done to me. Windows is amazing.
IE is amazing. Their tools are amazing. Without the greed
and strategizing it could be an incredible system. Though
there are some exceptions. The people who wrote the
scripting runtime (scrrun.dll) made quite a mess of it. And
of course IE is an ungodly mess, but that's only because
of Microsoft's ulterior motives. The actual software is
brilliant and beautifully put together. And they've been way
ahead of their time on multiple occasions. (The SPOT
watch could have beat the iPhone to creating the Dick
Tracy era, if only the wireless access had been there and
the thing hadn't looked like a tin potato.)


I had to program professionally using libraries and APIs made by
microsoft, and sometimes they were a bag of rubish. Stupid results from
the functions that were not as documented.

Long ago there was a pascal compiler made by microsoft. I met it because
the college I was at used it. It was horrible. Then Borland came with
Turbo Pascal and dominated the scene for years. THOSE were really
amazing tools they made.

Like the same code that compiled in a second with tpascal but took
minutes in "pascal", at a price more than ten times larger.


Not all softwares distributed by Microsoft, are
written by Microsoft.

Take the defragmenter in WinXP, which is written
by Presidents? Software.

There was a time not too many years ago, when
"network stacks" were by third-parties and not
well integrated into the OS of the makers using
those stacks. Today the situation is entirely
different, with network stacks written incorporated
like any other codes (kernel, filesystem). One of the
reason for this, is more than one free network
stack was publicly distributed, to break the logjam.
So even companies without the chops, could have
their own stack, and do a much better job of
integrating it (OS no longer freezes up on network
calls), and also tuning for performance (ability
to use a GbE to the full link rate).

An example of a company that sold a network
stack was Tenon Intersystems (MachTen). But I don't
know who bought it, if anyone did. I had a copy of
MachTen (the OS) here, but I don't recollect it lasting
long. Probably lasted about as long as my copy of FreeBSD :-)
(It's still on the hard drive of my Win98 computer
for lack of a reason to do something about it.)

Paul
  #440  
Old December 12th 19, 11:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mayayana
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"Frank Slootweg" wrote

| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode#Origin_and_development
|
| "The first 256 code points were made identical to the content of
| ISO-8859-1 so as to make it trivial to convert existing western text."
|
| Here it says 'code points', not 'character encodings'. The use of the
| term 'code points' made me realize that it talks about something else
| than I thought it was talking about.
|

It's still confusing, isn't it? The code points following
127 in UTF-8 are not "trivial" no matter how they figure it.
Once it gets into needing 2+ bytes to create one
character one needs to have some kind of extra step
to do that.


  #441  
Old December 13th 19, 12:12 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Carlos E.R.[_3_]
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You dropped "alt.computer.workshop" intentionally?

On 12/12/2019 22.37, Paul wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 08/12/2019 19.53, Mayayana wrote:
"Ken Springer" wrote

| "Microsofties"...Â* meaning all programmers writing code for
Windows, or
| just MS programmers?
|

Â* MS programmers. The actual software they write usually
seems very clean and well done to me. Windows is amazing.
IE is amazing. Their tools are amazing. Without the greed
and strategizing it could be an incredible system. Though
there are some exceptions. The people who wrote the
scripting runtime (scrrun.dll) made quite a mess of it. And
of course IE is an ungodly mess, but that's only because
of Microsoft's ulterior motives. The actual software is
brilliant and beautifully put together. And they've been way
ahead of their time on multiple occasions. (The SPOT
watch could have beat the iPhone to creating the Dick
Tracy era, if only the wireless access had been there and
the thing hadn't looked like a tin potato.)


I had to program professionally using libraries and APIs made by
microsoft, and sometimes they were a bag of rubish. Stupid results from
the functions that were not as documented.

Long ago there was a pascal compiler made by microsoft. I met it because
the college I was at used it. It was horrible. Then Borland came with
Turbo Pascal and dominated the scene for years. THOSE were really
amazing tools they made.

Like the same code that compiled in a second with tpascal but took
minutes in "pascal", at a price more than ten times larger.


Not all softwares distributed by Microsoft, are
written by Microsoft.

Take the defragmenter in WinXP, which is written
by Presidents? Software.


And the one in MsDOS 6 came from either Norton or PCTools. It was
excellent, but the original had more features. Similarly with the backup
program. Microsoft purchased tools from others, and they were mostly
wonderful additions (which did not destroy the parent companies).

Take the editor. MsDOS came with edlin. Horrible thing, although
sometimes it saved my day. I think that it was MsDOS 5 which finally
came with a good editor, "edit", with mouse support! (text mode). I
don't know who did it.


There was a time not too many years ago, when
"network stacks" were by third-parties and not
well integrated into the OS of the makers using
those stacks. Today the situation is entirely
different, with network stacks written incorporated
like any other codes (kernel, filesystem). One of the
reason for this, is more than one free network
stack was publicly distributed, to break the logjam.
So even companies without the chops, could have
their own stack, and do a much better job of
integrating it (OS no longer freezes up on network
calls), and also tuning for performance (ability
to use a GbE to the full link rate).

An example of a company that sold a network
stack was Tenon Intersystems (MachTen). But I don't
know who bought it, if anyone did. I had a copy of
MachTen (the OS) here, but I don't recollect it lasting
long. Probably lasted about as long as my copy of FreeBSD :-)
(It's still on the hard drive of my Win98 computer
for lack of a reason to do something about it.)

Â*Â* Paul



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Cheers, Carlos.
  #442  
Old December 14th 19, 09:44 AM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 22:07:48 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
wrote:

Backing up email in Thunderbird is trivial, no need to "import": the
folders are just text files, basically the same format as Unix/Linux
uses for email (mbox). Thus they can be moved trivially, even across
several different applications. The indexes can be ignored and recreated
empty: then Thunderbird will populate them from scratch.


Perhaps I'm doing something wrong but it's not always obvious in
Thunderbird where it wants to do your backups which has led to my
saving them on my c: drive which is unfortunate as that's my SSD and I
have LARGE archives of e-mail going back before 2010 (I'm on boards of
multiple provincial and national non-profits) and it's NOT obvious
where one sets one's default directories (as in sometimes it changes
from release to release and sometimes I just plain forget then have to
spelunk to remember where they're set).

On a day to day basis I like Thunderbird a lot but for sure I need to
keep better records (preferably in a paper notebook about where things
are kept). It's important to me as I lost both my hard drives back in
2010 due to an intermittant spike coming from a dying power supply
which I didn't understand that the power supply and not the
motherboard was the problem (e.g. we had first replaced the
motherboard so when it fried the second drive it fried a second
motherboard too. The whole experience nearly 10 years later has made
one mildly paranoid.....)
  #443  
Old December 14th 19, 02:19 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Mayayana
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"The Horny Goat" wrote

| Perhaps I'm doing something wrong but it's not always obvious in
| Thunderbird where it wants to do your backups which has led to my
| saving them on my c: drive which is unfortunate as that's my SSD and I
| have LARGE archives of e-mail going back before 2010 (I'm on boards of
| multiple provincial and national non-profits) and it's NOT obvious
| where one sets one's default directories (as in sometimes it changes
| from release to release and sometimes I just plain forget then have to
| spelunk to remember where they're set).
|

Don't you also back up off-disk? I like to
clean out excess email, then back it up to
secondary disk, then write that backup
periodically to DVD.

I also made myself a little HTA utility that
runs on VBScript and MSIs, to back up older
emails in a searchable database.

So nothing depends on a disk not failing and
here's always a recent backup in multiple
locations. Occasionally I also drop a DVD in
my safe deposit box. That might seem extreme,
but it's only about $70/year. I started using it
to keep customer records but ended up using it
mostly to keep disk image backups and data
backups. A copy of email files on C drive, when
the original files are on C drive, is not a backup.



  #444  
Old December 14th 19, 03:25 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Carlos E.R.[_3_]
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On 14/12/2019 09.44, The Horny Goat wrote:
On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 22:07:48 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
wrote:

Backing up email in Thunderbird is trivial, no need to "import": the
folders are just text files, basically the same format as Unix/Linux
uses for email (mbox). Thus they can be moved trivially, even across
several different applications. The indexes can be ignored and recreated
empty: then Thunderbird will populate them from scratch.


Perhaps I'm doing something wrong but it's not always obvious in
Thunderbird where it wants to do your backups which has led to my
saving them on my c: drive which is unfortunate as that's my SSD and I
have LARGE archives of e-mail going back before 2010 (I'm on boards of
multiple provincial and national non-profits) and it's NOT obvious
where one sets one's default directories (as in sometimes it changes
from release to release and sometimes I just plain forget then have to
spelunk to remember where they're set).


I see them here (W10):

C:\Users\Carlos\Application Data -- C:\Users\Carlos\AppData\Roaming

C:\Users\NAME\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles \RANDOM.default\Mail\Local
Folders

And there you find the folders, in this form:

Drafts (mail folder)
Drafts.msf (index file)

Saved
Saved.msf

....

If there is a directory, there will be:

Interesting.sbd\ (directory)
Interesting (file)
Interesting.msf


Those are the emails; to backup them, just copy them somewhere.

Those files above are plain text files that can be read with an editor,
even changed if you are careful.


There is another structu

\C\Users\NAME\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles \RANDOM.default\ImapMail\imap.googlemail.com


which containst the *local copy* of the remote mail server, the cache:

[Gmail].msf INBOX msgFilterRules.dat Receipts.msf Work.msf
[Gmail].sbd INBOX.msf Personal.msf Travel.msf

Normally you do not backup these.


Or backup the entire Thunderbird\* structure. Configuration, filters,
all. Should work.



On a day to day basis I like Thunderbird a lot but for sure I need to
keep better records (preferably in a paper notebook about where things
are kept). It's important to me as I lost both my hard drives back in
2010 due to an intermittant spike coming from a dying power supply


:-(

which I didn't understand that the power supply and not the
motherboard was the problem (e.g. we had first replaced the
motherboard so when it fried the second drive it fried a second
motherboard too.


:-((

The whole experience nearly 10 years later has made
one mildly paranoid.....)


Sure.

You need to keep backups on an external hard disk connected via USB.

Recently I lost a hard disk suddenly for no cause (no SMART warning). It
just went dead. 3 TB of things, including backups.

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  #445  
Old December 14th 19, 03:43 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 00:44:28 -0800, The Horny Goat
wrote:

On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 22:07:48 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
wrote:

Backing up email in Thunderbird is trivial, no need to "import": the
folders are just text files, basically the same format as Unix/Linux
uses for email (mbox). Thus they can be moved trivially, even across
several different applications. The indexes can be ignored and recreated
empty: then Thunderbird will populate them from scratch.


Perhaps I'm doing something wrong but it's not always obvious in
Thunderbird where it wants to do your backups which has led to my
saving them on my c: drive which is unfortunate as that's my SSD and I
have LARGE archives of e-mail going back before 2010 (I'm on boards of
multiple provincial and national non-profits) and it's NOT obvious
where one sets one's default directories (as in sometimes it changes
from release to release and sometimes I just plain forget then have to
spelunk to remember where they're set).

On a day to day basis I like Thunderbird a lot but for sure I need to
keep better records (preferably in a paper notebook about where things
are kept). It's important to me as I lost both my hard drives back in
2010 due to an intermittant spike coming from a dying power supply
which I didn't understand that the power supply and not the
motherboard was the problem (e.g. we had first replaced the
motherboard so when it fried the second drive it fried a second
motherboard too. The whole experience nearly 10 years later has made
one mildly paranoid.....)


I use an old version of Thunderbird, and don't use it for
newsgroups, but MozBackup has served me well. It creates a zip archive
of all your data. (mail compacts well, videos and images less so).
You can save that on a DVD, pendrive or whatever.

http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/

Or Sourceforge, for a slightly older version.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/mozbackup/files/

Note that "restoring" will overwrite the current install,
unless you create a new profile and use 7-Zip to extract to the "new"
profile folder and the "point" Thunderbird to that.
Probably a better idea, try restoring to another computer with
a new install of Thunderbird and see if everything is working. Then
just uninstall/delete.
(not tested on later versions of Thunderbird, but should
work).
[]'s
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  #446  
Old December 14th 19, 05:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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The Horny Goat wrote:
On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 22:07:48 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
wrote:

Backing up email in Thunderbird is trivial, no need to "import": the
folders are just text files, basically the same format as Unix/Linux
uses for email (mbox). Thus they can be moved trivially, even across
several different applications. The indexes can be ignored and recreated
empty: then Thunderbird will populate them from scratch.


Perhaps I'm doing something wrong but it's not always obvious in
Thunderbird where it wants to do your backups which has led to my
saving them on my c: drive which is unfortunate as that's my SSD and I
have LARGE archives of e-mail going back before 2010 (I'm on boards of
multiple provincial and national non-profits) and it's NOT obvious
where one sets one's default directories (as in sometimes it changes
from release to release and sometimes I just plain forget then have to
spelunk to remember where they're set).

On a day to day basis I like Thunderbird a lot but for sure I need to
keep better records (preferably in a paper notebook about where things
are kept). It's important to me as I lost both my hard drives back in
2010 due to an intermittant spike coming from a dying power supply
which I didn't understand that the power supply and not the
motherboard was the problem (e.g. we had first replaced the
motherboard so when it fried the second drive it fried a second
motherboard too. The whole experience nearly 10 years later has made
one mildly paranoid.....)


If we use Carlos example:

C:\Users\NAME\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles

In there is a text file "profiles.ini" and a folder is
next to the profiles.ini with ABCD1234.default, where the
first part is randomly assigned. The "profiles.ini"
keeps note of the ABCD1234.default part.

Thunderbird supports multiple profiles and has
a command line capability to bring up the Profile
Manager and select a second profile. I don't bother
with this, but understanding that capability is to
better understand why the tool needs a profiles.ini.
Typically the user does not use that capability and
a single profile can interface to multiple email servers
or USENET news servers.

At one time, Thunderbird had a path string in the interface,
which probably points to the currently in-use profile.

You would back up the whole profile.

Steps I would use, for the unwary.

1) Install Agent Ransack.
https://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/

It's a brute force search engine that covers more of C:\
for you, than the built-in Windows Search. For example, it
is more likely to find "windows.edb" when you want it.

2) Search for Thunderbird.
There are two folders.
The "large" folder has your emails. The materials
consisting of "profiles.ini" plus the profile folder
itself in the ABCD1234.default format.
The "small" folder has things like XUL files, but
this is more part of tool operation than personal content.

3) Use external magnetic storage for backups.
Use *two* drives, alternating between them.
If one drive fails, you still have half your backups
and half of the temporal resolution. It's generally
a suggestion, to power off hard drives like that which
are not in usage. This gives some protection against
catastrophic electrical events or ransomware (only
the older ransomware, not the newer stuff).

4) 7ZIP

https://www.7-zip.org/

can be used to simply compress the Profiles folder
and place it on the backup drive. You can use it to
implement your "copying" step.

7ZIP: C:\...\Profiles = E:\Profiles__Dec14_2019.7z

You only need to compress the materials if space is an issue.
7ZIP can be run in Store mode too (uncompressed).
The mode can be changed to TAR (tape archive) which is
a sequential presentation of the files as one large file.

7ZIP: C:\...\Profiles = E:\Profiles__Dec14_2019.tar

Some of the storage formats that 7ZIP offers, have
a "checksum", and doing a -t or "test" on the archive,
gives you an overall idea whether the object is corrupted.

Real backup software also does that, and a number
of the 20-30 Windows backup products that use VSS,
offer *free* versions for making complete backups of C: .

https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

For someone using an SSD for C: , I recommend doing
a full backup once in a while and storing it on
your external storage device. A number of the full backup
softwares, they allow "mounting" the image and allow
random access to individual files within the image.
There is no need in most cases, to restore an entire
image just to get at one file. Full backups allow
rapid restore of materials, in the event of
things like "software meltdowns".

Paul
  #447  
Old December 24th 19, 06:42 AM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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David
Fri, 13 Dec 2019 22:57:43 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

On 13/12/2019 20:32, Diesel lied.

I am an honest individual, David.


No, Dustin, you are not. :-(


Lemme rephrase that then, I'm *MUCH MORE* honest than you've ever
been, a single day in your entire life.

Here's some of what you neglected to respond to. And, I understand
why you didn't. It's all public knowledge, and I can backup every
single statement I wrote with your own emails and usenet posts. You
don't have any valid recourse or response. I know this, you know
this, and anyone who knows our history or you specifically also knows
what I wrote is all true concerning you.

So here it is again:

No bull****. I believed that something untoward was happening on
the Annexcafe forums and I asked if you would check. IIRC, I even
suggested that YOU should take the credit for exposing any illegal
activity which you may have found.


Again, I asked you multiple times to provide a url that pointed to
something you thought was malicious or could be. Not one single time
did you provide any urls pointing to what you felt might be malware
or something else malicious. Instead, you continued demanding that I
should break into the server and have a closer look around. Yet, you
wouldn't/couldn't provide ANY evidence to support your accusations
against the site and it's administrators. You had a personal problem
with one or more people on the site and thought you'd con me into
helping you get even with the admins. At no time do I believe you
ever thought malware was actually on the site.

You just used that as a ruse to try and play me into hacking into the
site for you. I didn't take the bait.

My big mistake was somehow imagining that you had had an epiphany
(BugHunter) and that you would thereafter have had the mindset of
an honest individual, like all of my real-life friends and
contacts.


Ahh, a snide remark directed at me. Cute. I am an honest individual,
David, it's why I refused to hack into any sites for you. I offered
to examine any urls you wanted to send along for analysis, but you
opted not to do so. Instead, you continued harping on me about the
servers. Well, I'm not going to break into someone elses gear and get
all up in it's **** because you got a 'hinky' that something might be
off with it. I require evidence, something solid. A hinky won't
suffice.

How is that exposing me, David?

I'm fairly sure that most people have no idea that you are a
criminal.


Ahh, more slander. You are well known for that, too, David.


Not slander.


Yes, that's slander.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/criminal

Read it and weep, dishonest asshole.

You *KNOW* that many of the things which you have done were wrong.


Heh, not only does that more so apply to you, you continue doing
things you know for a fact are wrong. Soliciting the help from others
to try and 'hang me out to dry' is one good example.

I've tried to help you recognise that. Perhaps there's still hope
that you *WILL* have that 'lightbulb' moment! :-D


You tried to play me into breaking into someone elses private servers
for your personal benefit. When I refused, multiple times and quit
responding to your non BugHunter support related, nosy as ****
emails; you attempted to dox me on usenet. You can lie about that all
you want, but I know it's what you intended, and so do you.

You just didn't expect the type of response that I provided you for
your trouble of doing that. Granted, I waited two years to return the
favor, because I wanted to know why you did it - Correction, I
already knew why you did it; I wanted you to admit it.

And you still try to google **** me or otherwise intentionally not
follow proper usenet etiquette by using my real name (instead of my
posting nym) and this time, being so thoughtful as to modify the
subject with my name.


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  #448  
Old December 25th 19, 06:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Kobac
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On 12/14/2019 3:44 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:
On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 22:07:48 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
wrote:

Backing up email in Thunderbird is trivial, no need to "import": the
folders are just text files, basically the same format as Unix/Linux
uses for email (mbox). Thus they can be moved trivially, even across
several different applications. The indexes can be ignored and recreated
empty: then Thunderbird will populate them from scratch.


Perhaps I'm doing something wrong but it's not always obvious in
Thunderbird where it wants to do your backups which has led to my
saving them on my c: drive which is unfortunate as that's my SSD and I
have LARGE archives of e-mail going back before 2010 (I'm on boards of
multiple provincial and national non-profits) and it's NOT obvious
where one sets one's default directories (as in sometimes it changes
from release to release and sometimes I just plain forget then have to
spelunk to remember where they're set).

On a day to day basis I like Thunderbird a lot but for sure I need to
keep better records (preferably in a paper notebook about where things
are kept). It's important to me as I lost both my hard drives back in
2010 due to an intermittant spike coming from a dying power supply
which I didn't understand that the power supply and not the
motherboard was the problem (e.g. we had first replaced the
motherboard so when it fried the second drive it fried a second
motherboard too. The whole experience nearly 10 years later has made
one mildly paranoid.....)


You can move your Thunderbird profile to your hard disk drive (HDD) if
you wish. I did that with my 'new' refurbished Win 10 Pro PC, which has
a setup similar to yours — a 256-GB SSD with a 1-TB HDD. Windows and all
my programs are on the SSD while all my data is on the HDD.

Details he
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb...profile-stored
  #449  
Old December 26th 19, 12:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Carlos E.R.[_3_]
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Default 7 Best Alternatives To Microsoft Office Suite - 2019 Edition

On 14/12/2019 17.23, Paul wrote:
The Horny Goat wrote:
On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 22:07:48 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
wrote:


....

If we use Carlos example:

C:\Users\NAME\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles

In there is a text file "profiles.ini" and a folder is
next to the profiles.ini with ABCD1234.default, where the
first part is randomly assigned. The "profiles.ini"
keeps note of the ABCD1234.default part.

Thunderbird supports multiple profiles and has
a command line capability to bring up the Profile
Manager and select a second profile. I don't bother
with this, but understanding that capability is to
better understand why the tool needs a profiles.ini.
Typically the user does not use that capability and
a single profile can interface to multiple email servers
or USENET news servers.


I used it on a laptop. I created a different profile for using in an
internet cafe with a shared untrusted wifi: I did not add there the
settings to use some accounts that used plain text authorization or
password, because they can be sniffed in transit.

Or, you can have a profile for work and another for home.

You may have access on one profile to local mail folders of another
profile, using file links. The idea just occurred to me, so I can not
propose the details.




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