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Old June 17th 10, 04:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Default System size keeps growing......

My Master system (XP/Home/SP3) has been growing and growing
and is now nearing 20GB. I get rid of programs that I have
no need for periodically, but it occurs to me that Windows
Update has favored me with a zillion KB's over the years,
downloaded and installed them. I wonder why I still need to
store the KB's themselves. Isn't there a way to delete
the accumulated KB's that have been incorporated? Such
as, why not from Add/Remove Programs?

I will always have a backup system that has them if they're needed.
And I'm aware that 'support' for XP/SP2 is going away shortly.
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Old June 17th 10, 04:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Bickford Shmeckler
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Default System size keeps growing......

If you remove them with Add/Remove programs, you will no longer have the
security updates, which you DO need.

You can remove the $Uninstall files from C: Windows. However, then you can
never uninstall them from add/remove if you need to for some reason or
another.

Another Option: Buy a bigger drive.

"William B. Lurie" wrote in message
...
: My Master system (XP/Home/SP3) has been growing and growing
: and is now nearing 20GB. I get rid of programs that I have
: no need for periodically, but it occurs to me that Windows
: Update has favored me with a zillion KB's over the years,
: downloaded and installed them. I wonder why I still need to
: store the KB's themselves. Isn't there a way to delete
: the accumulated KB's that have been incorporated? Such
: as, why not from Add/Remove Programs?
:
: I will always have a backup system that has them if they're needed.
: And I'm aware that 'support' for XP/SP2 is going away shortly.


  #3  
Old June 17th 10, 04:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Bickford Shmeckler
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Default System size keeps growing......

If you remove them with Add/Remove programs, you will no longer have the
security updates, which you DO need.

You can remove the $Uninstall files from C: Windows. However, then you can
never uninstall them from add/remove if you need to for some reason or
another.

Another Option: Buy a bigger drive.

"William B. Lurie" wrote in message
...
: My Master system (XP/Home/SP3) has been growing and growing
: and is now nearing 20GB. I get rid of programs that I have
: no need for periodically, but it occurs to me that Windows
: Update has favored me with a zillion KB's over the years,
: downloaded and installed them. I wonder why I still need to
: store the KB's themselves. Isn't there a way to delete
: the accumulated KB's that have been incorporated? Such
: as, why not from Add/Remove Programs?
:
: I will always have a backup system that has them if they're needed.
: And I'm aware that 'support' for XP/SP2 is going away shortly.


  #4  
Old June 17th 10, 04:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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Default System size keeps growing......

Don't understand your post. If you install a security update (KBxxxxxx) why
would you want to delete it by
using Add/Remove programs??
"William B. Lurie" wrote in message
...
My Master system (XP/Home/SP3) has been growing and growing
and is now nearing 20GB. I get rid of programs that I have
no need for periodically, but it occurs to me that Windows
Update has favored me with a zillion KB's over the years,
downloaded and installed them. I wonder why I still need to
store the KB's themselves. Isn't there a way to delete
the accumulated KB's that have been incorporated? Such
as, why not from Add/Remove Programs?

I will always have a backup system that has them if they're needed.
And I'm aware that 'support' for XP/SP2 is going away shortly.



  #5  
Old June 17th 10, 04:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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Default System size keeps growing......

Don't understand your post. If you install a security update (KBxxxxxx) why
would you want to delete it by
using Add/Remove programs??
"William B. Lurie" wrote in message
...
My Master system (XP/Home/SP3) has been growing and growing
and is now nearing 20GB. I get rid of programs that I have
no need for periodically, but it occurs to me that Windows
Update has favored me with a zillion KB's over the years,
downloaded and installed them. I wonder why I still need to
store the KB's themselves. Isn't there a way to delete
the accumulated KB's that have been incorporated? Such
as, why not from Add/Remove Programs?

I will always have a backup system that has them if they're needed.
And I'm aware that 'support' for XP/SP2 is going away shortly.



  #6  
Old June 17th 10, 04:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
kraut[_2_]
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Default System size keeps growing......

On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:13:30 -0400, "William B. Lurie"
wrote:

My Master system (XP/Home/SP3) has been growing and growing
and is now nearing 20GB. I get rid of programs that I have
no need for periodically, but it occurs to me that Windows
Update has favored me with a zillion KB's over the years,
downloaded and installed them. I wonder why I still need to
store the KB's themselves. Isn't there a way to delete
the accumulated KB's that have been incorporated? Such
as, why not from Add/Remove Programs?

I will always have a backup system that has them if they're needed.
And I'm aware that 'support' for XP/SP2 is going away shortly.



Check out Windows Update Remover at

http://www.tech-pro.net/windows-update-remover.html

Windows XP Update Remover provides a quick and easy way to delete the
backup files left behind after every Windows update and reclaim
valuable disk space. It can also remove Windows updates that appear to
be causing trouble.

Whenever Windows Update runs to install security fixes and other
updates to your system, it creates a folder within the Windows folder
containing all the files replaced during the update. These folders
have names like "$NtUninstall..." and are highlighted in blue. The
contents of these folders are only ever needed if you uninstall an
update. If you are not going to uninstall an update then its backup
folder can be removed to save disk space. However, these folders
cannot (or should not) simply be deleted, because they are referred to
by links in the Registry.

Manually removing these folders and their related Registry links is
possible, but not easy. This is where Windows XP Update Remover comes
in. It makes clean removal of these folders easy. Just select an
update from the list, read the information about it to see what it is,
and then click Remove backup folder. If you want to know what an
update does before deleting its backup folders then you can click on a
link to Microsoft web pages that describe the update.

Windows XP Update Remover can uninstall Windows updates as well. This
is not something you will often need to do, unless you suspect that an
update has caused problems with your computer, so the program displays
a warning before allowing you to proceed with removal of an update.


If an update has been running fine for months then it is safe to bet
that you will not need the backup files and it is safe to delete them.

I use this prog and have had no problems.


  #7  
Old June 17th 10, 04:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
kraut[_2_]
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Default System size keeps growing......

On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:13:30 -0400, "William B. Lurie"
wrote:

My Master system (XP/Home/SP3) has been growing and growing
and is now nearing 20GB. I get rid of programs that I have
no need for periodically, but it occurs to me that Windows
Update has favored me with a zillion KB's over the years,
downloaded and installed them. I wonder why I still need to
store the KB's themselves. Isn't there a way to delete
the accumulated KB's that have been incorporated? Such
as, why not from Add/Remove Programs?

I will always have a backup system that has them if they're needed.
And I'm aware that 'support' for XP/SP2 is going away shortly.



Check out Windows Update Remover at

http://www.tech-pro.net/windows-update-remover.html

Windows XP Update Remover provides a quick and easy way to delete the
backup files left behind after every Windows update and reclaim
valuable disk space. It can also remove Windows updates that appear to
be causing trouble.

Whenever Windows Update runs to install security fixes and other
updates to your system, it creates a folder within the Windows folder
containing all the files replaced during the update. These folders
have names like "$NtUninstall..." and are highlighted in blue. The
contents of these folders are only ever needed if you uninstall an
update. If you are not going to uninstall an update then its backup
folder can be removed to save disk space. However, these folders
cannot (or should not) simply be deleted, because they are referred to
by links in the Registry.

Manually removing these folders and their related Registry links is
possible, but not easy. This is where Windows XP Update Remover comes
in. It makes clean removal of these folders easy. Just select an
update from the list, read the information about it to see what it is,
and then click Remove backup folder. If you want to know what an
update does before deleting its backup folders then you can click on a
link to Microsoft web pages that describe the update.

Windows XP Update Remover can uninstall Windows updates as well. This
is not something you will often need to do, unless you suspect that an
update has caused problems with your computer, so the program displays
a warning before allowing you to proceed with removal of an update.


If an update has been running fine for months then it is safe to bet
that you will not need the backup files and it is safe to delete them.

I use this prog and have had no problems.


  #8  
Old June 17th 10, 04:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Daave[_8_]
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Default System size keeps growing......

William B. Lurie wrote:
My Master system (XP/Home/SP3) has been growing and growing
and is now nearing 20GB. I get rid of programs that I have
no need for periodically, but it occurs to me that Windows
Update has favored me with a zillion KB's over the years,
downloaded and installed them. I wonder why I still need to
store the KB's themselves. Isn't there a way to delete
the accumulated KB's that have been incorporated? Such
as, why not from Add/Remove Programs?

I will always have a backup system that has them if they're needed.
And I'm aware that 'support' for XP/SP2 is going away shortly.


Yes, SP2 will soon no longer be supported. But since you have SP3, this
shouldn't be an issue. :-)

Although there is a way to delete some of that stuff, as long as your
hard drive is large enough, I wouldn't worry about it.

How large is your hard drive? How much free space do you have on it? (If
there is more than one partition, please include those figures for each
partition.)

BTW, if you use Add or Remove Programs, you will wind up uninstalling
those updates. So don't do that!!!

Yes, there is a way to delete those particular KB installation files
(and the method does *not* involve Add or Remove Programs!) and that
could be discussed in another post. But as long as space isn't an issue,
since they're not bothering anything, you might as well leave them
alone.


  #9  
Old June 17th 10, 04:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Daave[_8_]
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Default System size keeps growing......

William B. Lurie wrote:
My Master system (XP/Home/SP3) has been growing and growing
and is now nearing 20GB. I get rid of programs that I have
no need for periodically, but it occurs to me that Windows
Update has favored me with a zillion KB's over the years,
downloaded and installed them. I wonder why I still need to
store the KB's themselves. Isn't there a way to delete
the accumulated KB's that have been incorporated? Such
as, why not from Add/Remove Programs?

I will always have a backup system that has them if they're needed.
And I'm aware that 'support' for XP/SP2 is going away shortly.


Yes, SP2 will soon no longer be supported. But since you have SP3, this
shouldn't be an issue. :-)

Although there is a way to delete some of that stuff, as long as your
hard drive is large enough, I wouldn't worry about it.

How large is your hard drive? How much free space do you have on it? (If
there is more than one partition, please include those figures for each
partition.)

BTW, if you use Add or Remove Programs, you will wind up uninstalling
those updates. So don't do that!!!

Yes, there is a way to delete those particular KB installation files
(and the method does *not* involve Add or Remove Programs!) and that
could be discussed in another post. But as long as space isn't an issue,
since they're not bothering anything, you might as well leave them
alone.


  #10  
Old June 17th 10, 05:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Default System size keeps growing......

kraut wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:13:30 -0400, "William B. Lurie"
wrote:

My Master system (XP/Home/SP3) has been growing and growing
and is now nearing 20GB. I get rid of programs that I have
no need for periodically, but it occurs to me that Windows
Update has favored me with a zillion KB's over the years,
downloaded and installed them. I wonder why I still need to
store the KB's themselves. Isn't there a way to delete
the accumulated KB's that have been incorporated? Such
as, why not from Add/Remove Programs?

I will always have a backup system that has them if they're needed.
And I'm aware that 'support' for XP/SP2 is going away shortly.



Check out Windows Update Remover at

http://www.tech-pro.net/windows-update-remover.html

Windows XP Update Remover provides a quick and easy way to delete the
backup files left behind after every Windows update and reclaim
valuable disk space. It can also remove Windows updates that appear to
be causing trouble.

Whenever Windows Update runs to install security fixes and other
updates to your system, it creates a folder within the Windows folder
containing all the files replaced during the update. These folders
have names like "$NtUninstall..." and are highlighted in blue. The
contents of these folders are only ever needed if you uninstall an
update. If you are not going to uninstall an update then its backup
folder can be removed to save disk space. However, these folders
cannot (or should not) simply be deleted, because they are referred to
by links in the Registry.

Manually removing these folders and their related Registry links is
possible, but not easy. This is where Windows XP Update Remover comes
in. It makes clean removal of these folders easy. Just select an
update from the list, read the information about it to see what it is,
and then click Remove backup folder. If you want to know what an
update does before deleting its backup folders then you can click on a
link to Microsoft web pages that describe the update.

Windows XP Update Remover can uninstall Windows updates as well. This
is not something you will often need to do, unless you suspect that an
update has caused problems with your computer, so the program displays
a warning before allowing you to proceed with removal of an update.


If an update has been running fine for months then it is safe to bet
that you will not need the backup files and it is safe to delete them.

I use this prog and have had no problems.


Thanks for that tool, Kraut. I forgot to mention earlier that
I was aware of the $NtUninstall series in c:\Windows but also
that there were too many to delete manually, and then there
would be Registry to contemplate.

I'm not concerned with deleting all those already-installed
downloads. If it should ever be a concern, I always have a recent
clone to fall back on. What I don't like is having a 20GB-sized
system that used to be a lot smaller.....and now performing
partition operations takes just that much longer, moving all
that stuff which I regard as having served its purpose.
  #11  
Old June 17th 10, 05:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Default System size keeps growing......

kraut wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:13:30 -0400, "William B. Lurie"
wrote:

My Master system (XP/Home/SP3) has been growing and growing
and is now nearing 20GB. I get rid of programs that I have
no need for periodically, but it occurs to me that Windows
Update has favored me with a zillion KB's over the years,
downloaded and installed them. I wonder why I still need to
store the KB's themselves. Isn't there a way to delete
the accumulated KB's that have been incorporated? Such
as, why not from Add/Remove Programs?

I will always have a backup system that has them if they're needed.
And I'm aware that 'support' for XP/SP2 is going away shortly.



Check out Windows Update Remover at

http://www.tech-pro.net/windows-update-remover.html

Windows XP Update Remover provides a quick and easy way to delete the
backup files left behind after every Windows update and reclaim
valuable disk space. It can also remove Windows updates that appear to
be causing trouble.

Whenever Windows Update runs to install security fixes and other
updates to your system, it creates a folder within the Windows folder
containing all the files replaced during the update. These folders
have names like "$NtUninstall..." and are highlighted in blue. The
contents of these folders are only ever needed if you uninstall an
update. If you are not going to uninstall an update then its backup
folder can be removed to save disk space. However, these folders
cannot (or should not) simply be deleted, because they are referred to
by links in the Registry.

Manually removing these folders and their related Registry links is
possible, but not easy. This is where Windows XP Update Remover comes
in. It makes clean removal of these folders easy. Just select an
update from the list, read the information about it to see what it is,
and then click Remove backup folder. If you want to know what an
update does before deleting its backup folders then you can click on a
link to Microsoft web pages that describe the update.

Windows XP Update Remover can uninstall Windows updates as well. This
is not something you will often need to do, unless you suspect that an
update has caused problems with your computer, so the program displays
a warning before allowing you to proceed with removal of an update.


If an update has been running fine for months then it is safe to bet
that you will not need the backup files and it is safe to delete them.

I use this prog and have had no problems.


Thanks for that tool, Kraut. I forgot to mention earlier that
I was aware of the $NtUninstall series in c:\Windows but also
that there were too many to delete manually, and then there
would be Registry to contemplate.

I'm not concerned with deleting all those already-installed
downloads. If it should ever be a concern, I always have a recent
clone to fall back on. What I don't like is having a 20GB-sized
system that used to be a lot smaller.....and now performing
partition operations takes just that much longer, moving all
that stuff which I regard as having served its purpose.
  #12  
Old June 17th 10, 06:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Daave[_8_]
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Default System size keeps growing......

William B. Lurie wrote:

What I don't like is having a 20GB-sized
system that used to be a lot smaller.....and now performing
partition operations takes just that much longer, moving all
that stuff which I regard as having served its purpose.


In the overall scheme of things, 20GB isn't that huge. What kind of
partition operations do you perform that are now taking longer than they
used to?


  #13  
Old June 17th 10, 06:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Daave[_8_]
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Default System size keeps growing......

William B. Lurie wrote:

What I don't like is having a 20GB-sized
system that used to be a lot smaller.....and now performing
partition operations takes just that much longer, moving all
that stuff which I regard as having served its purpose.


In the overall scheme of things, 20GB isn't that huge. What kind of
partition operations do you perform that are now taking longer than they
used to?


  #14  
Old June 17th 10, 06:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Posts: 811
Default System size keeps growing......

kraut wrote:



Check out Windows Update Remover at

http://www.tech-pro.net/windows-update-remover.html

Windows XP Update Remover provides a quick and easy way to delete the
backup files left behind after every Windows update and reclaim
valuable disk space. It can also remove Windows updates that appear to
be causing trouble.


Using it fine, Kraut, and thanx again. It saves 800MB that now
doesn't need moving whenevr I do a partition operation.
  #15  
Old June 17th 10, 06:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Posts: 811
Default System size keeps growing......


kraut wrote:



Check out Windows Update Remover at

http://www.tech-pro.net/windows-update-remover.html

Windows XP Update Remover provides a quick and easy way to delete the
backup files left behind after every Windows update and reclaim
valuable disk space. It can also remove Windows updates that appear to
be causing trouble.


Using it fine, Kraut, and thanx again. It saves 800MB that now
doesn't need moving whenevr I do a partition operation.
 




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