System Restore not keeping restore points

I have a Dell Dimension 8200 with XP, SP3 , Windows Firewall, Avast antivirus, Spywareblaster, and run Firefox for the Internet and all the programs work well together and are up to date.

Recently I noticed that System Restore isn’t storing the restore points I’ve made.

The only other issue is that I have is that Live Messenger will not complete a previous upload process and I’ve tried (6) times but it seems it’s caught in a loop. I’ve tried using system restore to finish the process but it never does yet I keep having these pop-ups saying a new version is available. I'm trying to log-in to Hotmail via Live Messenger;I can always log-in via a web browser but I was hoping to still use Live Messenger as my client application. Although as I understand it Live Messenger is being phased out in favor of Skype so I will have to find some other client application, perhaps via MSN but that is the only other issue I have at present.

Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated

Thanks,
Robert

From:

I have a Dell Dimension 8200 with XP, SP3 , Windows Firewall, Avast
antivirus,
Spywareblaster, and run Firefox for the Internet and all the programs
work well together
and are up to date.

Recently I noticed that System Restore isn’t storing the restore points I’ve
made.

The only other issue is that I have is that Live Messenger will not
complete a previous
upload process and I’ve tried (6) times but it seems it’s caught in a
loop. I’ve tried
using system restore to finish the process but it never does yet I keep
having these
pop-ups saying a new version is available. I'm trying to log-in to
Hotmail via Live
Messenger;I can always log-in via a web browser but I was hoping to still
use Live
Messenger as my client application. Although as I understand it Live
Messenger is being
phased out in favor of Skype so I will have to find some other client
application, perhaps
via MSN but that is the only other issue I have at present.

Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated

Thanks,
Robert

Malware may be corrupting the System Restore service.

Let me suggest guided assistance just in case...
http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showforum=7

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Per :

Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated

Am I the only one that thinks there is a fallacy in system restore
points?

To wit, the system can acquire a root kit or some other type of malware
and the system restore point is not going to help.

This is from somebody who professes little or no technical knowledge...
but my money is on keeping system images instead of restore points.
--
Pete Cresswell

From: "(PeteCresswell)"

Per :

Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated

Am I the only one that thinks there is a fallacy in system restore
points?

To wit, the system can acquire a root kit or some other type of malware
and the system restore point is not going to help.

This is from somebody who professes little or no technical knowledge...
but my money is on keeping system images instead of restore points.

It has its abilities and disabilities. Most notable is the ability in the
ease of a rollback to a previous state without affecting data files.

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

On Monday, February 4, 2013 4:30:59 PM UTC-6, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per :



Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated



Am I the only one that thinks there is a fallacy in system restore

points?



To wit, the system can acquire a root kit or some other type of malware

and the system restore point is not going to help.



This is from somebody who professes little or no technical knowledge...

but my money is on keeping system images instead of restore points.

--

Pete Cresswell

It's easier to use a disk imaging program and store the images on another drive.

If you have downloaded files since your last image backup, copy them to another drive before you create the new image.

System restore is unreliable.

Andy

From: "Andy"

On Monday, February 4, 2013 4:30:59 PM UTC-6, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per :

Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated

Am I the only one that thinks there is a fallacy in system restore

points?

To wit, the system can acquire a root kit or some other type of malware

and the system restore point is not going to help.

This is from somebody who professes little or no technical knowledge...

but my money is on keeping system images instead of restore points.

--

Pete Cresswell

It's easier to use a disk imaging program and store the images on another
drive.

If you have downloaded files since your last image backup, copy them to
another drive
before you create the new image.

System restore is unreliable.

Andy

Not true at all. It is reliable for short term OS chnages. In all the
times I have used it it hasn't failed me once.

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Per Andy:
It's easier to use a disk imaging program and store the images on another drive.

If you have downloaded files since your last image backup, copy them to another drive before you create the new image.

What I do:

- Learn the discipline of not saving data to C:\

- Assume that the discipline will not always have been
followed 100%.

- Before re-imaging, take a "Just-In-Case" image of
C: using a tool that allows the image to be mounted
as if it were another drive.

- Set up my backup utility to copy those files that
just *have* to be on C: to a staging area every time
a daily backup is done.

- After re-imaging, copy any files from the staging area
back on to C:

As far as files that just *have* to be on C: are concerned,
I find vanishingly few of them. Mostly they only seem
to have to be on C: because the app cannot handle working
over a LAN share - so moving them to the D: partition works.
--
Pete Cresswell

In ,
(PeteCresswell) typed:
Per :

Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated

Am I the only one that thinks there is a fallacy in
system restore points?

To wit, the system can acquire a root kit or some other
type of malware and the system restore point is not going
to help.

This is from somebody who professes little or no
technical knowledge... but my money is on keeping system
images instead of restore points.

Restore Points are a reasonably fast, usually useful first attempt when you
have a problem. Especially if something went awry during an install, say, or
file corruption in the registry.

If it works, one has possbly saved themselves many hours of work. Worst
case, it finds nothing and the first Restore POint tried can be rolled back
to the latest version.

Nothng is perfect, and that includes ALL AV and anti-malware programs out
there! But they certainly have their place before attempting anything as
rash as a full system reinstall including deletion of and replacement of the
partition/s when one suspects a rootkit or otherwse.

Rather than concentrate on the weak points, you should instead provide
something useful that a poster can actually use, or ask questions to pin
down better descriptions, etc..

HTH,

Twayne`

On Tuesday, February 5, 2013 11:49:58 AM UTC-8, Twayne wrote:
In ,

(PeteCresswell) typed:

Per :



Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated



Am I the only one that thinks there is a fallacy in

system restore points?



To wit, the system can acquire a root kit or some other

type of malware and the system restore point is not going

to help.



This is from somebody who professes little or no

technical knowledge... but my money is on keeping system

images instead of restore points.



Restore Points are a reasonably fast, usually useful first attempt when you

have a problem. Especially if something went awry during an install, say, or

file corruption in the registry.



If it works, one has possbly saved themselves many hours of work. Worst

case, it finds nothing and the first Restore POint tried can be rolled back

to the latest version.



Nothng is perfect, and that includes ALL AV and anti-malware programs out

there! But they certainly have their place before attempting anything as

rash as a full system reinstall including deletion of and replacement of the

partition/s when one suspects a rootkit or otherwse.



Rather than concentrate on the weak points, you should instead provide

something useful that a poster can actually use, or ask questions to pin

down better descriptions, etc..



HTH,



Twayne`

Exactly, lets not get pulled off the subject with what I should have or should do regarding storage. That's another subject entirely and as others have stated System Restore does have it's place. I've stated my problem as accurately as possible but if you need more information please ask.

As far as the other post from D. Lipman about seeking guided assistance with the following link:

http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showforum=7

If indeed it's malware that is corrupting my System Restore surely it would be much better to provide a removal tool than a forum?

Thoughts/Suggestions
Robert

On Tuesday, February 5, 2013 10:06:16 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Tuesday, February 5, 2013 11:49:58 AM UTC-8, Twayne wrote:

In ,



(PeteCresswell) typed:



Per :







Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated







Am I the only one that thinks there is a fallacy in



system restore points?







To wit, the system can acquire a root kit or some other



type of malware and the system restore point is not going



to help.







This is from somebody who professes little or no



technical knowledge... but my money is on keeping system



images instead of restore points.







Restore Points are a reasonably fast, usually useful first attempt when you



have a problem. Especially if something went awry during an install, say, or



file corruption in the registry.







If it works, one has possbly saved themselves many hours of work. Worst



case, it finds nothing and the first Restore POint tried can be rolled back



to the latest version.







Nothng is perfect, and that includes ALL AV and anti-malware programs out



there! But they certainly have their place before attempting anything as



rash as a full system reinstall including deletion of and replacement of the



partition/s when one suspects a rootkit or otherwse.







Rather than concentrate on the weak points, you should instead provide



something useful that a poster can actually use, or ask questions to pin



down better descriptions, etc..







HTH,







Twayne`



Exactly, lets not get pulled off the subject with what I should have or should do regarding storage. That's another subject entirely and as others have stated System Restore does have it's place. I've stated my problem as accurately as possible but if you need more information please ask.



As far as the other post from D. Lipman about seeking guided assistance with the following link:



http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showforum=7



If indeed it's malware that is corrupting my System Restore surely it would be much better to provide a removal tool than a forum?



Thoughts/Suggestions

Robert

P.s. I forgot to add, please post all replies to this thread here as it's very confusing for me to look for separate responses and reply so that were all on one page.

Thanks,
Robert

wrote:
I have a Dell Dimension 8200 with XP, SP3 , Windows Firewall, Avast
antivirus, Spywareblaster, and run Firefox for the Internet and all
the programs work well together and are up to date.

Recently I noticed that System Restore isn’t storing the restore
points I’ve made.

The only other issue is that I have is that Live Messenger will not
complete a previous upload process and I’ve tried (6) times but it
seems it’s caught in a loop. I’ve tried using system restore to
finish the process but it never does yet I keep having these pop-ups
saying a new version is available. I'm trying to log-in to Hotmail
via Live Messenger;I can always log-in via a web browser but I was
hoping to still use Live Messenger as my client application. Although
as I understand it Live Messenger is being phased out in favor of
Skype so I will have to find some other client application, perhaps
via MSN but that is the only other issue I have at present.

Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated

Thanks, Robert

Try turning off system restore, rebooting, then re-enabling it,
and creating a new restore point. I bet it will then work on
the new point that you made.
NOTE: you will lose all previous restore points. But since
they don't work anyways, it may not matter.
Can't help with the Live Hot Mess Skype Mail.
I don't and won't use any of them.

From:


P.s. I forgot to add, please post all replies to this thread here as it's very confusing
for me to look for separate responses and reply so that were all on one page.

Thanks,
Robert

You are using Google Groups and THAT is the problem. Usenet News Groups are *BEST* served
using a News Client via NNTP connected to a News Server than the crap called Google
Groups.

The following News URL will take your default News Client to the Free AIOE News Server and
this News Group...
news://nntp.aioe.org/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general


--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

From:


Exactly, lets not get pulled off the subject with what I should have or should do
regarding storage. That's another subject entirely and as others have stated System
Restore does have it's place. I've stated my problem as accurately as possible but if
you
need more information please ask.

As far as the other post from D. Lipman about seeking guided assistance with the
following
link:

http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showforum=7

If indeed it's malware that is corrupting my System Restore surely it would be much
better
to provide a removal tool than a forum?

Thoughts/Suggestions
Robert



'Cause it may not be a case that the mere removal of a file by a application may correct
the issue.
Going to a forum and getting directed help from a trained person you may get a better
result.

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

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I have a Dell Dimension 8200 with XP, SP3 , Windows Firewall, Avast
antivirus,
Spywareblaster, and run Firefox for the Internet and all the programs
work well together
and are up to date.

Recently I noticed that System Restore isn’t storing the restore points
I’ve made.

The only other issue is that I have is that Live Messenger will not
complete a previous
upload process and I’ve tried (6) times but it seems it’s caught in a
loop. I’ve tried
using system restore to finish the process but it never does yet I keep
having these
pop-ups saying a new version is available. I'm trying to log-in to
Hotmail via Live
Messenger;I can always log-in via a web browser but I was hoping to
still use Live
Messenger as my client application. Although as I understand it Live
Messenger is being
phased out in favor of Skype so I will have to find some other client
application, perhaps
via MSN but that is the only other issue I have at present.

Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated

Thanks,
Robert


Troubleshooting steps to take when System Restore fails to create an
automatic restore point:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srauto.html

Troubleshooting missing restore points:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/missingrps.html

Tips on keeping System Restore healthy:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/healthy.html

I can't access Hotmail from Windows Live Messenger:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...c-59f7ddb078e3

--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

Troubleshooting steps to take when System Restore fails to create an
automatic restore point:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srauto.html

Troubleshooting missing restore points:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/missingrps.html

Tips on keeping System Restore healthy:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/healthy.html

I can't access Hotmail from Windows Live Messenger:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...c-59f7ddb078e3

--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+