System Restore not keeping restore points

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On Friday, February 8, 2013 6:57:49 PM UTC-8, David H. Lipman wrote:
From:

OK, this is what I've done, I went back to My
DocumentsPropertiesSystem

Restore tab and

disabled the System Restore monitoring of the D and F drives via the set

button as I have

my OS on the C drive. I then made a restore point and logged off System

Restore and then

logged back on and the test restore point was there but a previous one I

set a few days

earlier wasn't.

To Twayne - I'm very leery about messing around with the registry for
the

very reasons you

stated and do not know how to export. I can follow step by step
directions

but simply

telling me to do this or that without instructions isn't going to work.

Not everyone is as

computer literate.

Thanks,

Robert

What is the size of the hard disk(s) and what is the size of the System

Restore cache ?

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Dave

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The disk space is:
C=44.58
D= 47.70
D= 56.76
Total = 149.05 disk space

I'm not sure what you mean by the size of the System Restore cache or
where to find it? If
you mean how many restore points there are there's only (1). The previous
test restore
point is gone and I only made it recently.

Robert

The System Restore cache uses a percentage of the disk. So if the System
Restore cache is set for 10% of a 60GB HD then only 6GB is allocated to the
cache. Thus the cache size can limit the number of System Restore points
stored within that cache.

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

wrote in message
...

Glen,
You may or may not have seen my reply to your last message but I
indicated that I went
back and did find the System Restore tab in System Properties and then
disabled the
monitoring of the D and F drives.

I'm using XP Home version.

Thanks,
Robert

Yes, I saw it. I was busy elsewhere... sorry. Turning off SR on D and
F are fine. I only leave it on my C, and I have a D drive with all my
programs installed so I leave it on there too.

I'm not sure what your status is now. Are automatic restore points
being created? In other words, when you start System Restore (Start
All Programs Accessories System Tools System Restore), select
"Restore my computer to an earlier time" and click Next, does the
calendar show restore points available?

Your settings are apparently the default of making a point every 24
hours, so unless you have deleted them all during that time, by turning
off SR and turning it back on, there should be some points there.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

On Saturday, February 9, 2013 11:02:50 AM UTC-8, glee wrote:
wrote in message

...



Glen,

You may or may not have seen my reply to your last message but I

indicated that I went

back and did find the System Restore tab in System Properties and then

disabled the

monitoring of the D and F drives.



I'm using XP Home version.



Thanks,

Robert



Yes, I saw it. I was busy elsewhere... sorry. Turning off SR on D and

F are fine. I only leave it on my C, and I have a D drive with all my

programs installed so I leave it on there too.



I'm not sure what your status is now. Are automatic restore points

being created? In other words, when you start System Restore (Start

All Programs Accessories System Tools System Restore), select

"Restore my computer to an earlier time" and click Next, does the

calendar show restore points available?



Your settings are apparently the default of making a point every 24

hours, so unless you have deleted them all during that time, by turning

off SR and turning it back on, there should be some points there.

--

Glen Ventura

MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009

CompTIA A+

I tried checking System Restore for restore points as you suggested but it only shows the last test. It doesn't show any of my previous restore points which I've created.

I thought I had turned off System Restore when I inadvertently disabled System Restore monitoring all the drives. I was able to enable it again and then proceed with disabling the monitoring of System Restore of the D and F drives.

So how exactly do I turn off system restore?

Thanks,
Robert

On Saturday, February 9, 2013 8:57:36 AM UTC-8, David H. Lipman wrote:
From:



On Friday, February 8, 2013 6:57:49 PM UTC-8, David H. Lipman wrote:

From:



OK, this is what I've done, I went back to My

DocumentsPropertiesSystem



Restore tab and



disabled the System Restore monitoring of the D and F drives via the set



button as I have



my OS on the C drive. I then made a restore point and logged off System



Restore and then



logged back on and the test restore point was there but a previous one I



set a few days



earlier wasn't.



To Twayne - I'm very leery about messing around with the registry for

the



very reasons you



stated and do not know how to export. I can follow step by step

directions



but simply



telling me to do this or that without instructions isn't going to work.



Not everyone is as



computer literate.



Thanks,



Robert



What is the size of the hard disk(s) and what is the size of the System



Restore cache ?



--



Dave



Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk



http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



The disk space is:

C=44.58

D= 47.70

D= 56.76

Total = 149.05 disk space



I'm not sure what you mean by the size of the System Restore cache or

where to find it? If

you mean how many restore points there are there's only (1). The previous

test restore

point is gone and I only made it recently.



Robert



The System Restore cache uses a percentage of the disk. So if the System

Restore cache is set for 10% of a 60GB HD then only 6GB is allocated to the

cache. Thus the cache size can limit the number of System Restore points

stored within that cache.



--

Dave

Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk

http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Understood but I still don't know how or where to find the System Restore cache or what its set at. I do seem to remember however that at one point System Restore cache was set too high and was eating my HD memory so I was given instructions to lower it but I don't remember how I got there or how I did it.

Robert

From:


The System Restore cache uses a percentage of the disk. So if the System

Restore cache is set for 10% of a 60GB HD then only 6GB is allocated to the

cache. Thus the cache size can limit the number of System Restore points

stored within that cache.




Understood but I still don't know how or where to find the System Restore cache or what
its set at. I do seem to remember however that at one point System Restore cache was set
too high and was eating my HD memory so I was given instructions to lower it but I don't
remember how I got there or how I did it.

Robert

Right-Click on "My Computer" -- properties -- system restore -- settings

Example:
http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk/o...e-settings.jpg


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On Saturday, February 9, 2013 11:02:50 AM UTC-8, glee wrote:
wrote in message

...



Glen,

You may or may not have seen my reply to your last message but I

indicated that I went

back and did find the System Restore tab in System Properties and then

disabled the

monitoring of the D and F drives.



I'm using XP Home version.



Thanks,

Robert



Yes, I saw it. I was busy elsewhere... sorry. Turning off SR on D and

F are fine. I only leave it on my C, and I have a D drive with all my

programs installed so I leave it on there too.



I'm not sure what your status is now. Are automatic restore points

being created? In other words, when you start System Restore (Start

All Programs Accessories System Tools System Restore), select

"Restore my computer to an earlier time" and click Next, does the

calendar show restore points available?



Your settings are apparently the default of making a point every 24

hours, so unless you have deleted them all during that time, by turning

off SR and turning it back on, there should be some points there.

--

Glen Ventura

MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009

CompTIA A+

I kind of figured out what to do I think;

I opened up System Restore and clicked System Restore settings, then clicked settings again and it shows that my disk space usage is set to the max 12% (5478 MB).

I also saw that System Restore has to be turned off on all drives not just the C: drive to turn it off.

So I turned off System Restore and then restarted my computer then turned System Restore back on and checked for restore points and there were none!@ All the test and previous restore points have been deleted.

I also had to disabled the System Restore monitoring D and F drives again.

Thoughts/Suggestions

Robert

From:


I kind of figured out what to do I think;

I opened up System Restore and clicked System Restore settings, then
clicked settings
again and it shows that my disk space usage is set to the max 12% (5478
MB).

I also saw that System Restore has to be turned off on all drives not just
the C: drive to
turn it off.

So I turned off System Restore and then restarted my computer then turned
System Restore
back on and checked for restore points and there were none!@ All the test
and previous
restore points have been deleted.

I also had to disabled the System Restore monitoring D and F drives
again.

Thoughts/Suggestions

Robert

OK. Now manually create 2 or more Restore Points. Reboot and then go back
and check their existence.

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

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On Saturday, February 9, 2013 11:02:50 AM UTC-8, glee wrote:
wrote in message

...



Glen,

You may or may not have seen my reply to your last message but I

indicated that I went

back and did find the System Restore tab in System Properties and
then

disabled the

monitoring of the D and F drives.



I'm using XP Home version.



Thanks,

Robert



Yes, I saw it. I was busy elsewhere... sorry. Turning off SR on D
and

F are fine. I only leave it on my C, and I have a D drive with all
my

programs installed so I leave it on there too.



I'm not sure what your status is now. Are automatic restore points

being created? In other words, when you start System Restore (Start

All Programs Accessories System Tools System Restore), select

"Restore my computer to an earlier time" and click Next, does the

calendar show restore points available?



Your settings are apparently the default of making a point every 24

hours, so unless you have deleted them all during that time, by
turning

off SR and turning it back on, there should be some points there.

I kind of figured out what to do I think;

I opened up System Restore and clicked System Restore settings, then
clicked settings again and it shows that my disk space usage is set to
the max 12% (5478 MB).

I also saw that System Restore has to be turned off on all drives not
just the C: drive to turn it off.

So I turned off System Restore and then restarted my computer then
turned System Restore back on and checked for restore points and there
were none!@ All the test and previous restore points have been
deleted.

I also had to disabled the System Restore monitoring D and F drives
again.

Thoughts/Suggestions

Robert

Turning off system restore for all drives deletes all restore points you
had, as you discovered. It is set to create a restore point every day,
so see if a restore point shows up in SR's calendar tomorrow.... that
will show that the automatic points are being made.

The 12% setting is too large on newer larger hard drives. XP's System
Restore can have trouble if its cache is too large. Slide the slider to
the left till you have about 2 MB for the SR space setting. That's all
you need and keeps it within an amount it can manage. System Restore
should not be to be used for going back months, only days are a couple
of weeks.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

From: "glee"



Turning off system restore for all drives deletes all restore points you
had, as you discovered. It is set to create a restore point every day,
so see if a restore point shows up in SR's calendar tomorrow.... that
will show that the automatic points are being made.

The 12% setting is too large on newer larger hard drives. XP's System
Restore can have trouble if its cache is too large. Slide the slider to
the left till you have about 2 MB for the SR space setting. That's all
you need and keeps it within an amount it can manage. System Restore
should not be to be used for going back months, only days are a couple
of weeks.

Surely Glen that was in error "...about 2 MB for the SR space setting."

You did mean, 2GB - Yes ?

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

On Saturday, February 9, 2013 1:14:31 PM UTC-8, glee wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Saturday, February 9, 2013 11:02:50 AM UTC-8, glee wrote:

wrote in message



...







Glen,



You may or may not have seen my reply to your last message but I



indicated that I went



back and did find the System Restore tab in System Properties and

then



disabled the



monitoring of the D and F drives.







I'm using XP Home version.







Thanks,



Robert







Yes, I saw it. I was busy elsewhere... sorry. Turning off SR on D

and



F are fine. I only leave it on my C, and I have a D drive with all

my



programs installed so I leave it on there too.







I'm not sure what your status is now. Are automatic restore points



being created? In other words, when you start System Restore (Start



All Programs Accessories System Tools System Restore), select



"Restore my computer to an earlier time" and click Next, does the



calendar show restore points available?







Your settings are apparently the default of making a point every 24



hours, so unless you have deleted them all during that time, by

turning



off SR and turning it back on, there should be some points there.



I kind of figured out what to do I think;



I opened up System Restore and clicked System Restore settings, then

clicked settings again and it shows that my disk space usage is set to

the max 12% (5478 MB).



I also saw that System Restore has to be turned off on all drives not

just the C: drive to turn it off.



So I turned off System Restore and then restarted my computer then

turned System Restore back on and checked for restore points and there

were none!@ All the test and previous restore points have been

deleted.



I also had to disabled the System Restore monitoring D and F drives

again.



Thoughts/Suggestions



Robert



Turning off system restore for all drives deletes all restore points you

had, as you discovered. It is set to create a restore point every day,

so see if a restore point shows up in SR's calendar tomorrow.... that

will show that the automatic points are being made.



The 12% setting is too large on newer larger hard drives. XP's System

Restore can have trouble if its cache is too large. Slide the slider to

the left till you have about 2 MB for the SR space setting. That's all

you need and keeps it within an amount it can manage. System Restore

should not be to be used for going back months, only days are a couple

of weeks.

--

Glen Ventura

MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009

CompTIA A+



Ok, I moved the slider to 2MB and will check tomorrow if there are any restore points and will let you know.

Thanks,
Robert

2 GB (not MB) should typ allow you around 10 restore points, at least as I
recall (Figure around 200 MB per restore point, on average), but it really
depends on what you've installed or uninstalled).

wrote:
On Saturday, February 9, 2013 1:14:31 PM UTC-8, glee wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Saturday, February 9, 2013 11:02:50 AM UTC-8, glee wrote:

wrote in message



...







Glen,



You may or may not have seen my reply to your last message but I



indicated that I went



back and did find the System Restore tab in System Properties and

then



disabled the



monitoring of the D and F drives.







I'm using XP Home version.







Thanks,



Robert







Yes, I saw it. I was busy elsewhere... sorry. Turning off SR on D

and



F are fine. I only leave it on my C, and I have a D drive with all

my



programs installed so I leave it on there too.







I'm not sure what your status is now. Are automatic restore points



being created? In other words, when you start System Restore (Start



All Programs Accessories System Tools System Restore), select



"Restore my computer to an earlier time" and click Next, does the



calendar show restore points available?







Your settings are apparently the default of making a point every 24



hours, so unless you have deleted them all during that time, by

turning



off SR and turning it back on, there should be some points there.



I kind of figured out what to do I think;



I opened up System Restore and clicked System Restore settings, then

clicked settings again and it shows that my disk space usage is set to

the max 12% (5478 MB).



I also saw that System Restore has to be turned off on all drives not

just the C: drive to turn it off.



So I turned off System Restore and then restarted my computer then

turned System Restore back on and checked for restore points and there

were none!@ All the test and previous restore points have been

deleted.



I also had to disabled the System Restore monitoring D and F drives

again.



Thoughts/Suggestions



Robert



Turning off system restore for all drives deletes all restore points you

had, as you discovered. It is set to create a restore point every day,

so see if a restore point shows up in SR's calendar tomorrow.... that

will show that the automatic points are being made.



The 12% setting is too large on newer larger hard drives. XP's System

Restore can have trouble if its cache is too large. Slide the slider to

the left till you have about 2 MB for the SR space setting. That's all

you need and keeps it within an amount it can manage. System Restore

should not be to be used for going back months, only days are a couple

of weeks.

--

Glen Ventura

MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009

CompTIA A+



Ok, I moved the slider to 2MB and will check tomorrow if there are any
restore points and will let you know.

Thanks,
Robert

"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "glee"



Turning off system restore for all drives deletes all restore points
you had, as you discovered. It is set to create a restore point
every day, so see if a restore point shows up in SR's calendar
tomorrow.... that will show that the automatic points are being made.

The 12% setting is too large on newer larger hard drives. XP's
System Restore can have trouble if its cache is too large. Slide the
slider to the left till you have about 2 MB for the SR space setting.
That's all you need and keeps it within an amount it can manage.
System Restore should not be to be used for going back months, only
days are a couple of weeks.

Surely Glen that was in error "...about 2 MB for the SR space
setting."

You did mean, 2GB - Yes ?

YES! 2 GB... 2046 MB. I hate when that happens....
Thanks.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

wrote in message
...
On Saturday, February 9, 2013 1:14:31 PM UTC-8, glee wrote:


Turning off system restore for all drives deletes all restore points
you
had, as you discovered. It is set to create a restore point every
day,
so see if a restore point shows up in SR's calendar tomorrow.... that
will show that the automatic points are being made.

The 12% setting is too large on newer larger hard drives. XP's
System
Restore can have trouble if its cache is too large. Slide the slider
to
the left till you have about 2 MB for the SR space setting. That's
all
you need and keeps it within an amount it can manage. System Restore
should not be to be used for going back months, only days are a
couple
of weeks.



Ok, I moved the slider to 2MB and will check tomorrow if there are any
restore points and will let you know.

2GB, not MB.... I made a typing error..... sorry. Set it to 2046MB or
thereabouts..... between 1GB and 2GB is enough.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 22:15:43 -0500, "glee"
wrote:

"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...

Surely Glen that was in error "...about 2 MB for the SR space
setting."

You did mean, 2GB - Yes ?

YES! 2 GB... 2046 MB. I hate when that happens....


LOL! You did mean 2048MB - Yes ? vbg

On Saturday, February 9, 2013 7:18:05 PM UTC-8, glee wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Saturday, February 9, 2013 1:14:31 PM UTC-8, glee wrote:





Turning off system restore for all drives deletes all restore points

you

had, as you discovered. It is set to create a restore point every

day,

so see if a restore point shows up in SR's calendar tomorrow.... that

will show that the automatic points are being made.



The 12% setting is too large on newer larger hard drives. XP's

System

Restore can have trouble if its cache is too large. Slide the slider

to

the left till you have about 2 MB for the SR space setting. That's

all

you need and keeps it within an amount it can manage. System Restore

should not be to be used for going back months, only days are a

couple

of weeks.







Ok, I moved the slider to 2MB and will check tomorrow if there are any

restore points and will let you know.



2GB, not MB.... I made a typing error..... sorry. Set it to 2046MB or

thereabouts..... between 1GB and 2GB is enough.

--

Glen Ventura

MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009

CompTIA A+


Ok, you guys have now confused me. The slider is in MB not GB, what should I do?

I checked System Restore today and it did indeed make a restore point for the 9th.

Thoughts/Suggestions?
Robert