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Old September 20th 09, 04:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
navnah
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How do you leave windows to return to DOS prompt? I need to use DOS XCOPY
command to back up damaged files.
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Old September 20th 09, 04:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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navnah wrote:

How do you leave windows to return to DOS prompt? I need to use DOS XCOPY
command to back up damaged files.


There is no DOS in Windows XP so you can't do this as you could in Win9x/ME.
If you can't get into Windows proper, you might be able to accomplish your
task by booting into Safe Mode Command Prompt. This will give you the
command prompt without a gui and you can use XCopy from there.

Malke
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Old September 20th 09, 10:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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Sun, 20 Sep 2009 08:53:41 -0700 from Malke :

navnah wrote:

How do you leave windows to return to DOS prompt? I need to use DOS XCOPY
command to back up damaged files.


There is no DOS in Windows XP so you can't do this as you could in Win9x/ME.


Or, to answer what the OP really wants to know, click
Start | Programs | Accessories | Command prompt.

If it's not there, click Start | Run and enter this command
cmd /k
then click OK

I will never understand why normally helpful people say "there is no
DOS" and then stop, when they know perfectly well that everyone but a
few use "DOS" as a short term for "the command prompt". Is it
technically accurate? no, but neither are lots of short forms of
speech.

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Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...
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Old September 20th 09, 10:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
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On Sep 20, 5:10*pm, Stan Brown wrote:
Sun, 20 Sep 2009 08:53:41 -0700 from Malke :



navnah wrote:


How do you leave windows to return to DOS prompt? I need to use DOS XCOPY
command to back up damaged files.


There is no DOS in Windows XP so you can't do this as you could in Win9x/ME.


Or, to answer what the OP really wants to know, click
Start | Programs | Accessories | Command prompt.

If it's not there, click Start | Run and enter this command
cmd /k
then click OK

I will never understand why normally helpful people say "there is no
DOS" and then stop, when they know perfectly well that everyone but a
few use "DOS" as a short term for "the command prompt". *Is it
technically accurate? no, but neither are lots of short forms of
speech.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...


I don't remember if xcopy is included in the recovery console or not,
but you could build a PE disc with Bart's PE Builder and copy files
that way. It boots from a cd so you can even copy/modify system
files. The URL for that is http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
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Old September 20th 09, 10:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Malke[_2_]
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Stan Brown wrote:

Sun, 20 Sep 2009 08:53:41 -0700 from Malke :

navnah wrote:

How do you leave windows to return to DOS prompt? I need to use DOS
XCOPY command to back up damaged files.


There is no DOS in Windows XP so you can't do this as you could in
Win9x/ME.


Or, to answer what the OP really wants to know, click
Start | Programs | Accessories | Command prompt.

If it's not there, click Start | Run and enter this command
cmd /k
then click OK

I will never understand why normally helpful people say "there is no
DOS" and then stop, when they know perfectly well that everyone but a
few use "DOS" as a short term for "the command prompt". Is it
technically accurate? no, but neither are lots of short forms of
speech.


Because the OP asked if there was a way to get out of Windows and into DOS
like you could in Win9x/ME. Unlike you, I *did* answer his question. He
apparently can't use the gui and your way won't be useful if that is the
case. If you hadn't "conveniently" snipped the rest of my answer, it would
be apparent to you.

And here it is! Surprise!

"If you can't get into Windows proper, you might be able to accomplish your
task by booting into Safe Mode Command Prompt. This will give you the
command prompt without a gui and you can use XCopy from there."

Malke
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Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

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Old September 22nd 09, 01:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Stan Brown
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Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:53:07 -0700 from Malke :
Because the OP asked if there was a way to get out of Windows and
into DOS like you could in Win9x/ME. Unlike you, I *did* answer his
question. He apparently can't use the gui and your way won't be
useful if that is the case. If you hadn't "conveniently" snipped
the rest of my answer, it would be apparent to you.

And here it is! Surprise!

"If you can't get into Windows proper, you might be able to accomplish your
task by booting into Safe Mode Command Prompt. This will give you the
command prompt without a gui and you can use XCopy from there."


As I said, you answered the literal words of his question but not
what the real question actually was. You can't really believe that
the OP really wanted to reboot, as opposed to opening a command
window within Windows.

You're a smart guy, and I know you want to be helpful, but I believe
that exalting form over substance because newbies don't know the
official vocabulary doesn't help them most effectively.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...
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Old September 22nd 09, 05:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
N. Miller
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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:57:30 -0400, Stan Brown wrote:

You're a smart guy, and I know you want to be helpful, but I believe
that exalting form over substance because newbies don't know the
official vocabulary doesn't help them most effectively.


There is a reason for the official vocabulary, and anybody trying to move
beyond casual use should learn it, and the reason for it. There is a reason
for everything, including, "All hands to the left!" That won't fly aboard a
ship as a quarter of the crew will be facing one of four ways, and all will
move to their left; not the desired result. "All hands to port!" will get
the desired result, of course.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
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Old September 22nd 09, 03:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Jim[_33_]
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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:57:30 -0400, Stan Brown
wrote:

Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:53:07 -0700 from Malke :
Because the OP asked if there was a way to get out of Windows and
into DOS like you could in Win9x/ME. Unlike you, I *did* answer his
question. He apparently can't use the gui and your way won't be
useful if that is the case. If you hadn't "conveniently" snipped
the rest of my answer, it would be apparent to you.

And here it is! Surprise!

"If you can't get into Windows proper, you might be able to accomplish your
task by booting into Safe Mode Command Prompt. This will give you the
command prompt without a gui and you can use XCopy from there."


As I said, you answered the literal words of his question but not
what the real question actually was. You can't really believe that
the OP really wanted to reboot, as opposed to opening a command
window within Windows.

You're a smart guy, and I know you want to be helpful, but I believe
that exalting form over substance because newbies don't know the
official vocabulary doesn't help them most effectively.


Malke is a lady .
Stan Brown - plonk
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Old September 22nd 09, 03:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Unknown
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You sure do make a lot of erroneous assumptions.
"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...
Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:53:07 -0700 from Malke :
Because the OP asked if there was a way to get out of Windows and
into DOS like you could in Win9x/ME. Unlike you, I *did* answer his
question. He apparently can't use the gui and your way won't be
useful if that is the case. If you hadn't "conveniently" snipped
the rest of my answer, it would be apparent to you.

And here it is! Surprise!

"If you can't get into Windows proper, you might be able to accomplish
your
task by booting into Safe Mode Command Prompt. This will give you the
command prompt without a gui and you can use XCopy from there."


As I said, you answered the literal words of his question but not
what the real question actually was. You can't really believe that
the OP really wanted to reboot, as opposed to opening a command
window within Windows.

You're a smart guy, and I know you want to be helpful, but I believe
that exalting form over substance because newbies don't know the
official vocabulary doesn't help them most effectively.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...



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Old September 22nd 09, 05:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
N. Miller
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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:57:30 -0400, Stan Brown wrote:

You're a smart guy, and I know you want to be helpful, but I believe
that exalting form over substance because newbies don't know the
official vocabulary doesn't help them most effectively.


There is a reason for the official vocabulary, and anybody trying to move
beyond casual use should learn it, and the reason for it. There is a reason
for everything, including, "All hands to the left!" That won't fly aboard a
ship as a quarter of the crew will be facing one of four ways, and all will
move to their left; not the desired result. "All hands to port!" will get
the desired result, of course.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
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Old September 22nd 09, 03:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Jim[_33_]
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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:57:30 -0400, Stan Brown
wrote:

Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:53:07 -0700 from Malke :
Because the OP asked if there was a way to get out of Windows and
into DOS like you could in Win9x/ME. Unlike you, I *did* answer his
question. He apparently can't use the gui and your way won't be
useful if that is the case. If you hadn't "conveniently" snipped
the rest of my answer, it would be apparent to you.

And here it is! Surprise!

"If you can't get into Windows proper, you might be able to accomplish your
task by booting into Safe Mode Command Prompt. This will give you the
command prompt without a gui and you can use XCopy from there."


As I said, you answered the literal words of his question but not
what the real question actually was. You can't really believe that
the OP really wanted to reboot, as opposed to opening a command
window within Windows.

You're a smart guy, and I know you want to be helpful, but I believe
that exalting form over substance because newbies don't know the
official vocabulary doesn't help them most effectively.


Malke is a lady .
Stan Brown - plonk
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Old September 22nd 09, 03:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Unknown
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You sure do make a lot of erroneous assumptions.
"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...
Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:53:07 -0700 from Malke :
Because the OP asked if there was a way to get out of Windows and
into DOS like you could in Win9x/ME. Unlike you, I *did* answer his
question. He apparently can't use the gui and your way won't be
useful if that is the case. If you hadn't "conveniently" snipped
the rest of my answer, it would be apparent to you.

And here it is! Surprise!

"If you can't get into Windows proper, you might be able to accomplish
your
task by booting into Safe Mode Command Prompt. This will give you the
command prompt without a gui and you can use XCopy from there."


As I said, you answered the literal words of his question but not
what the real question actually was. You can't really believe that
the OP really wanted to reboot, as opposed to opening a command
window within Windows.

You're a smart guy, and I know you want to be helpful, but I believe
that exalting form over substance because newbies don't know the
official vocabulary doesn't help them most effectively.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...



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Old September 22nd 09, 01:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Stan Brown
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Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:53:07 -0700 from Malke :
Because the OP asked if there was a way to get out of Windows and
into DOS like you could in Win9x/ME. Unlike you, I *did* answer his
question. He apparently can't use the gui and your way won't be
useful if that is the case. If you hadn't "conveniently" snipped
the rest of my answer, it would be apparent to you.

And here it is! Surprise!

"If you can't get into Windows proper, you might be able to accomplish your
task by booting into Safe Mode Command Prompt. This will give you the
command prompt without a gui and you can use XCopy from there."


As I said, you answered the literal words of his question but not
what the real question actually was. You can't really believe that
the OP really wanted to reboot, as opposed to opening a command
window within Windows.

You're a smart guy, and I know you want to be helpful, but I believe
that exalting form over substance because newbies don't know the
official vocabulary doesn't help them most effectively.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...
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Old September 21st 09, 04:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
N. Miller
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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:10:23 -0400, Stan Brown wrote:

I will never understand why normally helpful people say "there is no
DOS" and then stop, when they know perfectly well that everyone but a
few use "DOS" as a short term for "the command prompt". Is it
technically accurate? no, but neither are lots of short forms of
speech.


Like the "hard disc", "power unit", "CPU", and such for the system unit? I
don't know that there is a proper term for the "tower", but it is much more
than just a "hard disc", "power unit", or "CPU". It is all of those, plus
I/O system, all in one box. Which is why "system unit" for that box is as
good a term as any.

I have a friend who keeps referring to removable media as, "tapes". Matters
not whether it is a floppy disc, CD, or DVD. It goes into a slot in the
system unit, much as an old eight-track, so, to her, it is a, "tape".

But it is hard for us geeks to understand what they mean, more often than
not. There is a reason for techno-jargon.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
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Old September 21st 09, 06:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Twayne[_2_]
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"N. Miller" wrote in message

On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:10:23 -0400, Stan Brown wrote:

I will never understand why normally helpful people say "there is no
DOS" and then stop, when they know perfectly well that everyone but a
few use "DOS" as a short term for "the command prompt". Is it
technically accurate? no, but neither are lots of short forms of
speech.


Like the "hard disc", "power unit", "CPU", and such for the system
unit? I don't know that there is a proper term for the "tower", but
it is much more than just a "hard disc", "power unit", or "CPU". It
is all of those, plus I/O system, all in one box. Which is why
"system unit" for that box is as good a term as any.

I have a friend who keeps referring to removable media as, "tapes".
Matters not whether it is a floppy disc, CD, or DVD. It goes into a
slot in the system unit, much as an old eight-track, so, to her, it
is a, "tape".

But it is hard for us geeks to understand what they mean, more often
than not. There is a reason for techno-jargon.


But their meaning is often in their content and context if one bothers
to pay attention rather than showing off.


 




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