Does Vista Actually Want 18 Gigabytes Of Disc Space?

Does Vista Actually Want 18 Gigabytes Of Disc Space?

DSH

Hi

Vista needs that amount of disk space for the initial installation.

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Does Vista Actually Want 18 Gigabytes Of Disc Space?

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On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 05:36:19 -0000, "D. Spencer Hines"
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Does Vista Actually Want 18 Gigabytes Of Disc Space?

My install (business version) takes up just under 9 GB. That's after
it was installed. Needs more room TO install when it expands cab files
and makes backups, etc.. So the 15 GB free minimum Microsoft says you
need is pretty close to minimum I guess.

"Initial Installation"...

And how much after that?

DSH

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Hi

Vista needs that amount of disk space for the initial installation.

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DSH

Hi

The disk space used after the installation goes down dependent on what has
been installed - 9/10 GBs perhaps.

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"Initial Installation"...

And how much after that?

DSH

"Will Denny" wrote in message
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Hi

Vista needs that amount of disk space for the initial installation.

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Does Vista Actually Want 18 Gigabytes Of Disc Space?

DSH

It's a rather large OS, but nothing really to worry about in this day and
age of 500gb drives....I have Vista on a separate 60gb SATA drive and right
now it only has ~20gb free, with nothing especially large on it other than a
couple games, but that's why I have additional 310gb of space :-)



"Adam Albright" wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 05:36:19 -0000, "D. Spencer Hines"
wrote:

Does Vista Actually Want 18 Gigabytes Of Disc Space?

My install (business version) takes up just under 9 GB. That's after
it was installed. Needs more room TO install when it expands cab files
and makes backups, etc.. So the 15 GB free minimum Microsoft says you
need is pretty close to minimum I guess.

This includes the space needed to copy files during the installation. This
space is returned after the installation.

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"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
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Does Vista Actually Want 18 Gigabytes Of Disc Space?

DSH

D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Does Vista Actually Want 18 Gigabytes Of Disc Space?

Others have explained about the install requirements. As for "in use", I
wouldn't run Vista on anything less than a 60Gb partition... and would be
far happier with 80 to 100Gb if you keep your applications on the same
partition as the OS.

Now that people want miracle applications and OSes that do everything and
now that hard disks are so cheap, the amount of disk space consumed by new
stuff is only going to increase.

Yes, I understand that Vista "only" consumes about 9 GB of disk space after
installation is complete, depending on what is installed.

But I'm currently running XP Pro and even with all my programs installed and
many other files in storage, I'm only consuming 16.44 GB.

What I need to know is what this very bloated piece of software called Vista
will do for me that XP Pro won't and I still haven't heard it.

I need TEN Good Reasons why I should upgrade to Vista and I've yet to hear
them.

Microsoft needs to do a better marketing job on Vista.

I'm very Pro-Microsoft, a stockholder and long-time user -- but Microsoft
needs to SHOW ME the advantages of Vista -- and "Transparent Windows" and
other rinky-dink cosmetic enhancement simply don't cut it.

TEN Good Reasons to buy Vista -- in bullet form, like this:

1. ------------

2. ------------

3. ------------

And so forth.

I haven't seen it.

DSH

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Do your own research! How are the users here supposed to know your likes,
dislikes, and how you work. After you get the list together, then you can
come back and tell us the ten best reasons you like Vista.

Windows Vista: Home Page:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...a/default.mspx


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"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
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Yes, I understand that Vista "only" consumes about 9 GB of disk space
after installation is complete, depending on what is installed.

But I'm currently running XP Pro and even with all my programs installed
and
many other files in storage, I'm only consuming 16.44 GB.

What I need to know is what this very bloated piece of software called
Vista
will do for me that XP Pro won't and I still haven't heard it.

I need TEN Good Reasons why I should upgrade to Vista and I've yet to hear
them.

Microsoft needs to do a better marketing job on Vista.

I'm very Pro-Microsoft, a stockholder and long-time user -- but Microsoft
needs to SHOW ME the advantages of Vista -- and "Transparent Windows" and
other rinky-dink cosmetic enhancement simply don't cut it.

TEN Good Reasons to buy Vista -- in bullet form, like this:

1. ------------

2. ------------

3. ------------

And so forth.

I haven't seen it.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:46:20 -0000, "D. Spencer Hines"
wrote:

Yes, I understand that Vista "only" consumes about 9 GB of disk space after
installation is complete, depending on what is installed.

But I'm currently running XP Pro and even with all my programs installed and
many other files in storage, I'm only consuming 16.44 GB.

What I need to know is what this very bloated piece of software called Vista
will do for me that XP Pro won't and I still haven't heard it.

I need TEN Good Reasons why I should upgrade to Vista and I've yet to hear
them.

Microsoft needs to do a better marketing job on Vista.

I'm very Pro-Microsoft, a stockholder and long-time user -- but Microsoft
needs to SHOW ME the advantages of Vista -- and "Transparent Windows" and
other rinky-dink cosmetic enhancement simply don't cut it.

Me too, I'm also pro Microsoft, a long time user and stockholder.

TEN Good Reasons to buy Vista -- in bullet form, like this:

I can't give you five "good" reasons. That begs the question why I and
others did upgrade. Ok, a fair question.

For me, and I'm sure it is true for a lot of people I upgraded for a
single reason, I sometimes still dabble in writing code, I'm still
fairly active in creating web content and since I also author a lot of
DVD content I NEED to see how each new OS performs. As simple as that.

While Vista is being touted as a new "major" release, I don't see it
that way. To me and to many, it is mostly a face lift and a needed
one. Windows in XP was getting tired looking and a bit behind the
times. Vista, especially if your system can support Aero is slicker,
visually. I guess that's a benefit, but hardly one that justifies the
cost of upgrading.

Several little things have been fixed. About time! One thing I do like
is now with Windows Explorer when you drag and drop files you get a
tiny little pop up that TELLS you what folder you're over which avoids
a long time annoyance of mine, hoving over a folder and if you do it
hundreds of times a day it was too easy to be in a hurry and "drop"
the file in the folder above or below your intented target. Now that's
less likely.

Vista's help system is much improved over XP. So is how details about
where your files are for example when clicking on Start then All
Programs. No more annoying ever expanding to the right list that takes
over your monitor. Now each category opens in the same window and
scrolls in place. Takes a little getting used to, but better once you
get use to the change.

Believe it or not (except for UAC) Vista is less of a nag and actually
tries to be more helpful. Little windows pop up and give more specific
information like when installing new hardware, information in Event
logs is better, Control Panel has undergone a major face lift.

I'm sure there are many improvements under the hood I haven't had time
to explore yet. These and any one of many little things may be enough
for somebody to consider upgrading a good idea. Asking to make a list
is simply too difficult not knowing everybody's likes or dislikes in
XP and saying if or not they've been fixed, or made worse.

One thing that does seem to be a glaring mistake was forcing UAC on
users without asking if they wanted it forcing you to discover how to
turn UAC off as opposed to learning on to turn it on if you want it.

I bet that will get changed. Quick. Its ****ing off a lot of users.

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
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Yes, I understand that Vista "only" consumes about 9 GB of disk space
after -chop-

TEN Good Reasons to buy Vista -- in bullet form, like this:

1. ------------

2. ------------

3. ------------




[Features new to Windows Vista]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature..._Windows_Vista


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Keith Schaefer wrote:

It's a rather large OS, but nothing really to worry about in this day
and age of 500gb drives....


Right! The way I always think it should be looked at is not in terms of
megabytes or gigabytes, but in terms of the dollar cost (substitute your own
local currency, if necessary) of providing hard disk space for the operating
system.

My first hard drive, about 20 years ago, was 20MB, and cost $200. DOS used
about 1MB, or $20 worth, of that drive.

Today, one can readily buy a 250GB drive for less than half of that, $90 or
so. That makes the cost of 18GB around $6.50. And that's without even
considering that 20-year old dollars were worth much more than today's
dollars. The cost of providing space for the operating system has gone down
substantially and continues to go down substantially all the time.

Modern versions of Windows do much more and do it much more easily than
20-year-old versions of DOS. I think it's wonderful that we can get so much
more capability while still spending much less for the disk space needed for
it.

It's hard for me to understand someone's getting upset about an operating
system's using $6.50 worth of disk space.

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Does Vista Actually Want 18 Gigabytes Of Disc Space?

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 09:11:24 -0000, "Robert Moir"
wrote:

D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Does Vista Actually Want 18 Gigabytes Of Disc Space?

Others have explained about the install requirements. As for "in use", I
wouldn't run Vista on anything less than a 60Gb partition... and would be
far happier with 80 to 100Gb if you keep your applications on the same
partition as the OS.

Now that people want miracle applications and OSes that do everything and
now that hard disks are so cheap, the amount of disk space consumed by new
stuff is only going to increase.


True enough, I gave Windows a 50 GB partition to play with.

What gripes me as a old dog seat of the pants programmer from way back
is Windows is beyond bloated. Far beyond. Somebody said 500 million
lines of code? I don't know if that's true, but BIG sure describes
Windows Vista.

A sobering thought... many of your are probably too young to remember
or weren't even alive when NASA way back in 1969 landed men on the
moon. The computer onboard that got them there and back (actually
there were three) had less computing power than today's average
desktop caculator.

Back then "programmers" knew how to write tight code. They had too,
not much memory to play with. Today's generation who fancy themselves
"software engineers" don't know how to write tight compact code. They
only know how to write bloatware and need hundreds of thousands of
lines of code, sometimes millions. This is progress?

No it isn't for one simple reason. We're all human. Humans make
mistakes. Its in our nature. The point is the more lines of code you
have the more prone you are to introducing mistakes. If Vista is
anywhere near as big as some claim that means even if it is 99% error
free there are still many thousands, likely tens of thousands of lines
of buggy programming, much of it yet still to surface. Hackers will
find it and exploit it. Take that to the bank.

One poster who complained loudly about Vista's 18GB of space on his computer
finally admitted that 6GB of that was his own emails and the backup of those
emails left behind by the Vista upgrade process. On top of that, he has a
120GB raid drive on his PC. I wouldn't run Vista on a 120GB drive. Not
that you can't do it but that's just so lame. If you really want to have
the state of the art OS, wouldn't you like to have at least a current model
drive size?

Dale

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