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On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 18:50:28 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Ken Blake
wrote:

Absolutely. Bread, too. We make our own homemade bread... and at this point
cannot even stand the smell of the bread isle in super markets. We also have
made our own ice cream but there are brands we buy which I think are also
good.

There's supermarket bread and there's bakery bread. There are some
exceptions, but unlike supermarket bread, most bakery bread is very
good

most supermarkets have their own bakeries and bake fresh on site, in
addition to the packaged stuff.



Maybe so, but that's very different from the bread in real bakeries.

In article , Ken Blake
wrote:

There's supermarket bread and there's bakery bread. There are some
exceptions, but unlike supermarket bread, most bakery bread is very
good

most supermarkets have their own bakeries and bake fresh on site, in
addition to the packaged stuff.


Maybe so, but that's very different from the bread in real bakeries.

they *are* real bakeries.

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 23:25:55 -0000, Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 3/25/2017 6:05 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 19:40:49 -0000, Ken Blake wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:18:40 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2017-03-23 11:20, Char Jackson wrote:

I guess it comes down to expectations and what you're used to, but I'd
be quite put off if I ordered coffee and they tried to add sugar or
creamer before they handed me the coffee. Good grief, do they also
pre-condiment your burger? :-)

You order and get exactly what you want: nothing, cream, double milk,
etc etc. "Double double" means double cream with double sugar.


Interesting! I've never heard "double milk" or "double sugar, but I'd
have no trouble understanding it. But if someone said "double double,"
I wouldn't know what he meant.

Isn't it just quadruple?

No.

Yes it is. Pick up a calculator and type 2x2. Educate yourself.

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He died laughing before he could tell anybody.

On 3/25/17, 3:47 PM, in article ,
"Ken Blake" wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 15:38:09 -0700, Snit
wrote:

On 3/25/17, 3:29 PM, in article ,
"Ken Blake" wrote:


To further illustrate that we all have our own preferences, which is a
good thing and not a bad thing, here are mine. With extremely few
exceptions, I've found hamburgers in 'real' restaurants to be generally
awful, or at best mediocre.

Interesting. Yes, we all have different tastes and different opinions,
but it surprises me that anyone would feel that way.

At our house we make what we call "real" food -- or at least largely (we
also have our share of junk, too). We make our own bread from scratch, make
mac and cheese from scratch (sometimes going as far as to make our own
pasta, though less often now than in the past), make our own soups, etc. We
do not buy much prepared stuff.

I'm the cook in our family, and I also make most things from scratch.
We buy very little prepared food. But it sounds like you make more
things than I do.

I should give credit where credit is due: my wife makes more than I do,
though I do tend to make more of the sauces and have thing like my own lower
healthier pancake / waffle mix (though you cannot get waffle irons today
without Teflon, which we do not like).

One thing you do that I don't is make pasta. Although many people
think that fresh pasta is better than dried, most chefs disagree. I
disagree too. They are *different*, rather than one being better.

We do buy pasta as well... the home made stuff can be great for ravioli and
some other dishes, but even when I make the cheese sauce for mac and cheese
I mostly use store bought macaroni.

Oh, and we do use a fair mount of spiralized vegetable "pasta" -- alone or
replacing half or so of the pasta (not with mac and cheese, but with other
recipes). It definitely is different but better for you and, I think, tastes
great. I do like the texture of real pasta so I mostly do half and half.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 3/25/17, 3:48 PM, in article ,
"Ken Blake" wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 15:26:17 -0700, Snit
wrote:

On 3/25/17, 2:47 PM, in article , "Mark
Lloyd" wrote:

On 03/25/2017 02:47 PM, Ken Blake wrote:

[snip]

The meat is flavorless, like cardboard. I'd much rather have a homemade
hamburger, with good meat and I've never been able to make a patty that
wasn't thicker than TWO of the fast-food ones.



As far as I'm concerned, they are two very different things:
hamburgers and fast food hamburgers. They are so different that an
example of one shouldn't be compared with an example of the other;
it's almost like comparing fried chicken with lamb chops.

I find a lot of things (including biscuits and ice cream), where the
fast food (and grocery store) versions are very different from the
homemade one.

Absolutely. Bread, too. We make our own homemade bread... and at this point
cannot even stand the smell of the bread isle in super markets. We also have
made our own ice cream but there are brands we buy which I think are also
good.

There's supermarket bread and there's bakery bread. There are some
exceptions, but unlike supermarket bread, most bakery bread is very
good

Agreed. I do not buy much but have friend who works at a local bakery and
she sometimes gives us their leftover bread... excellent. And we like
Einstein's bagels. Have tried to make my own bagels with, shall we say, less
than pleasing results.

Then again, before it sound like I am claiming to eat only healthy foods or
to be so great in the kitchen, made a cake the other day (easy recipe even)
and it collapsed and was, well, OK but a bit dense. Does not help that I
live at a relatively high elevation and recipes have to be modified
somewhat, but, really, I have made this cake many times before. Sometimes
the great kitchen gods smile on you... sometimes they do not.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

In article
Ken Blake wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 15:38:09 -0700, Snit
wrote:

On 3/25/17, 3:29 PM, in article =
,
"Ken Blake" wrote:

=20
To further illustrate that we all have our own preferences, which is =
a
good thing and not a bad thing, here are mine. With extremely few
exceptions, I've found hamburgers in 'real' restaurants to be =
generally
awful, or at best mediocre.
=20
=20
=20
Interesting. Yes, we all have different tastes and different opinions,
but it surprises me that anyone would feel that way.

At our house we make what we call "real" food -- or at least largely (we
also have our share of junk, too). We make our own bread from scratch, =
make
mac and cheese from scratch (sometimes going as far as to make our own
pasta, though less often now than in the past), make our own soups, etc.=
We
do not buy much prepared stuff.


I'm the cook in our family, and I also make most things from scratch.
We buy very little prepared food. But it sounds like you make more
things than I do.

One thing you do that I don't is make pasta. Although many people
think that fresh pasta is better than dried, most chefs disagree. I
disagree too. They are *different*, rather than one being better.

In article
"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote:

On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 21:10:32 -0000, Wolf K wrote:

On 2017-03-24 15:03, Ken Blake wrote:
[...]
How old are you? Fifteen or sixteen?

Why do so many of you think that calling someone a kid is an insult?

Agreed. Adults are boring. I'm glad I never grew up :-)

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a voice came on and said, "Not tonight. I have an earache."

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 19:45:03 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

My hamburger recipe:

Sufficient ground meat for the number of patties you want, approx 4oz
per patty.

For every 4 patties add
1 medium whole egg
2 tablespoons oatmeal
Celery and green/red peppers chopped fine to suit (about 1/4 to 1/2 cup)
Dash or two of garlic powder
Dash or two of chili powder
Salt to taste (about 1/2 to 1 teaspoon)
Any other spices? You decide.

Mix it all up, let sit for about 1/2 hour for oatmeal to soak up juices,
form into patties, and broil or barbecue.


My hamburger recipe:

Sufficient ground *beef* for the number of patties you want, approx
*8*oz per patty.

Nothing else.

Barbecue

Better yet is not using store-bought ground beef but buying large
pieces of meat and chopping it yourself in a food processor. If you do
that and wash it before chopping, you can make it as rare as you want
(I like it *very* rare) without worrying about e. coli.

On 3/25/2017 6:35 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 23:25:55 -0000, Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

On 3/25/2017 6:05 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 19:40:49 -0000, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:18:40 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2017-03-23 11:20, Char Jackson wrote:

I guess it comes down to expectations and what you're used to, but
I'd
be quite put off if I ordered coffee and they tried to add sugar or
creamer before they handed me the coffee. Good grief, do they also
pre-condiment your burger? :-)

You order and get exactly what you want: nothing, cream, double milk,
etc etc. "Double double" means double cream with double sugar.


Interesting! I've never heard "double milk" or "double sugar, but I'd
have no trouble understanding it. But if someone said "double double,"
I wouldn't know what he meant.

Isn't it just quadruple?

No.

Yes it is. Pick up a calculator and type 2x2. Educate yourself.


2 sugars X 2 creams does not make a quadruple, They are different elements,
Educate your own self.

Rene

In article
Snit wrote:

On 3/25/17, 2:47 PM, in article , "Mark
Lloyd" wrote:

On 03/25/2017 02:47 PM, Ken Blake wrote:

[snip]

The meat is flavorless, like cardboard. I'd much rather have a homemade
hamburger, with good meat and I've never been able to make a patty that
wasn't thicker than TWO of the fast-food ones.



As far as I'm concerned, they are two very different things:
hamburgers and fast food hamburgers. They are so different that an
example of one shouldn't be compared with an example of the other;
it's almost like comparing fried chicken with lamb chops.

I find a lot of things (including biscuits and ice cream), where the
fast food (and grocery store) versions are very different from the
homemade one.

Absolutely. Bread, too. We make our own homemade bread... and at this point
cannot even stand the smell of the bread isle in super markets. We also have
made our own ice cream but there are brands we buy which I think are also
good.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

In article
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 3/25/2017 6:05 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 19:40:49 -0000, Ken Blake wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:18:40 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2017-03-23 11:20, Char Jackson wrote:

I guess it comes down to expectations and what you're used to, but I'd
be quite put off if I ordered coffee and they tried to add sugar or
creamer before they handed me the coffee. Good grief, do they also
pre-condiment your burger? :-)

You order and get exactly what you want: nothing, cream, double milk,
etc etc. "Double double" means double cream with double sugar.


Interesting! I've never heard "double milk" or "double sugar, but I'd
have no trouble understanding it. But if someone said "double double,"
I wouldn't know what he meant.

Isn't it just quadruple?



No.

Rene

Quit crossposting to the privacy group.

In article
"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote:

On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 19:03:18 -0000, Ken Blake wrote:

On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 11:51:02 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Ken Blake
wrote:


In California a "Double-Double" is the In-n-Out Burger go-to burger.

I've not eaten at an In-n-Out Burger place yet.

you haven't missed a thing. it's just another fast food joint.

There are fast food joints and there are fast food joints. They all
have a lot in common, but they are not all equal in quality. As far as
I'm concerned, In-n-Out Burger is not the best, but it's one of the
better choices.

definitely not. it's a run of the mill fast food joint, only more
crowded because of the hype.


Notice the phrase I used above "as far as I'm concerned." I try to
point out that we all have different tastes and different opinions,
but you reject that and tell me that your tastes are right and mine
are wrong.

How old are you? Fifteen or sixteen?

Why, do you want him in your bed?

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In article
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 3/25/2017 6:35 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 23:25:55 -0000, Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

On 3/25/2017 6:05 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 19:40:49 -0000, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:18:40 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2017-03-23 11:20, Char Jackson wrote:

I guess it comes down to expectations and what you're used to, but
I'd
be quite put off if I ordered coffee and they tried to add sugar or
creamer before they handed me the coffee. Good grief, do they also
pre-condiment your burger? :-)

You order and get exactly what you want: nothing, cream, double milk,
etc etc. "Double double" means double cream with double sugar.


Interesting! I've never heard "double milk" or "double sugar, but I'd
have no trouble understanding it. But if someone said "double double,"
I wouldn't know what he meant.

Isn't it just quadruple?

No.

Yes it is. Pick up a calculator and type 2x2. Educate yourself.


2 sugars X 2 creams does not make a quadruple, They are different elements,
Educate your own self.

Rene

In article
Ken Blake wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 19:45:03 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

My hamburger recipe:

Sufficient ground meat for the number of patties you want, approx 4oz=20
per patty.

For every 4 patties add
1 medium whole egg
2 tablespoons oatmeal
Celery and green/red peppers chopped fine to suit (about 1/4 to 1/2 cup)
Dash or two of garlic powder
Dash or two of chili powder
Salt to taste (about 1/2 to 1 teaspoon)
Any other spices? You decide.

Mix it all up, let sit for about 1/2 hour for oatmeal to soak up juices,=
=20
form into patties, and broil or barbecue.


My hamburger recipe:

Sufficient ground *beef* for the number of patties you want, approx
*8*oz per patty.

Nothing else.

Barbecue

Better yet is not using store-bought ground beef but buying large
pieces of meat and chopping it yourself in a food processor. If you do
that and wash it before chopping, you can make it as rare as you want
(I like it *very* rare) without worrying about e. coli.

On 03/25/2017 06:07 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

[snip]

And the lifelong cigarette smoker has no responsibility for ANYONE
getting emphysema.

The others are free to move away from the smoke.


So you also support the unrestricted firing of automatic weapons in
public places. Anyone who doesn't like getting shot is free to move away
from the bullets.

Actually requiring potential victims to move away is denying their right
to enjoy those places. It is NOT ACCEPTABLE to be putting that poison in
unwilling people's lungs.