Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man'selectrocution

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nospam wrote:

In article , Wolf K
wrote:


Established tort law makes it crystal clear that if you sell stuff, you
take on an obligation to ensure it's safe. McDonalds didn't. On the
contrary, they knowingly sold coffee that would cause 3rd degree burns.

exactly.

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:21:48 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2017-03-23 15:40, Ken Blake wrote:
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:18:40 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2017-03-23 11:20, Char Jackson wrote:

I guess it comes down to expectations and what you're used to, but I'd
be quite put off if I ordered coffee and they tried to add sugar or
creamer before they handed me the coffee. Good grief, do they also
pre-condiment your burger? :-)

You order and get exactly what you want: nothing, cream, double milk,
etc etc. "Double double" means double cream with double sugar.


Interesting! I've never heard "double milk" or "double sugar, but I'd
have no trouble understanding it. But if someone said "double double,"
I wouldn't know what he meant.

It's a Canadian thing.


Ah, thanks for the info. I would never have known.

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Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Sam E
wrote:

On 03/23/2017 05:05 AM, Tim Streater wrote:

[snip]

Sockets in bathroom in the UK are *forbidden*. End of story.


What about those who HAVE to use a hair dryer in the bathroom?

You use it somewhere else. That is what SWMBO does.

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Alrescha wrote:

On 2017-03-23 20:29:08 +0000, nospam said:

Yes, for a company the size of McDonalds, coffee burns at a rate of one
or two a week is probably a positive indication of how *good* they are
doing.

nonsense.

It is not nonsense. You seem to have no sense of proportion. Out of
450,000 burns/year requiring a trip to the ER, McD's might be
responsible for as much as .001% of them, and then *only* if you assume
that most or all of those were serious (which is an unjustified
assumption, given that the 700 reports were of "varying degrees of
severity").

Again, if McD's were the maimer of all these "children and babies" as
you claim, there would be an uproar. It is simply not true. Nothing
changed as a result of this fiasco except that McD's now has a warning
that 'coffee is hot'. We are all stupider for it.

A.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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mike wrote:

On 3/22/2017 5:54 AM, Yes They Are That Stupid wrote:
Here's a candidate for the annual Darwin Awards.

Some folks simply can’t resist taking their smartphone into the
bathtub to check their social media feeds or play games, and
occasional reports of fatal accidents suggest a small percentage
may be going one step further and also charging their device
while in the tub.

One such person, 32-year-old Richard Bull of London, died on
December 11 from an electric shock he received when his iPhone
charger touched the water of the bath he was in. The coroner
examining the case, Dr. Sean Cummings, last week ruled the death
as accidental, but said he intended to ask Apple to take steps
to help prevent further such incidents.

Cummings said that while smartphones “seem like innocuous
devices … they can be as dangerous as a hairdryer in a
bathroom,” adding that handset makers “should attach warnings”
to the devices to warn of the risks.

Problem with warnings is that the more you have, the less likely
you'll read 'em all.

A Mac user read? Did the moon crash into the earth?

Yah, we know how well the windoze users can read. They call up
the fake Micro$oft tech support and give them their credit card
numbers. That is real smart.

On 3/23/2017 9:12 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-03-23 21:58, Nathan Hale wrote:
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Wolf K wrote:
[...]

Like Jorge, Nathan doesn't know how to post. All I ever see from them is
the post they're answering, with nothing either above or below.



Are they so dumb as not to figure it out that other people can't see or
read their posts?

Rene

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Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 3/23/2017 9:12 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-03-23 21:58, Nathan Hale wrote:
In article
Wolf K wrote:
[...]

Like Jorge, Nathan doesn't know how to post. All I ever see from them is
the post they're answering, with nothing either above or below.



Are they so dumb as not to figure it out that other people can't see or
read their posts?

Rene

Are you so dumb that you don't realize which group they don't want your
off-topic crossposting to?

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 19:19:34 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

On 2017-03-23 18:15, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:21:48 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

On 2017-03-23 15:40, Ken Blake wrote:
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:18:40 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2017-03-23 11:20, Char Jackson wrote:

I guess it comes down to expectations and what you're used to, but I'd
be quite put off if I ordered coffee and they tried to add sugar or
creamer before they handed me the coffee. Good grief, do they also
pre-condiment your burger? :-)

You order and get exactly what you want: nothing, cream, double milk,
etc etc. "Double double" means double cream with double sugar.


Interesting! I've never heard "double milk" or "double sugar, but I'd
have no trouble understanding it. But if someone said "double double,"
I wouldn't know what he meant.

It's a Canadian thing.

:-)

As is Timmie's. ;-)

Timmie's has a handful of locations where Canadians travel, eg along I75
in Michigan. But the new owners have plans to expand into the US and
other countries.

Yep, I'm aware of the Michigan locations, but I'll always consider it to
be Canadian.

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Char Jackson wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 19:19:34 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

On 2017-03-23 18:15, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:21:48 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

On 2017-03-23 15:40, Ken Blake wrote:
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:18:40 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2017-03-23 11:20, Char Jackson wrote:

I guess it comes down to expectations and what you're used to, but I'd
be quite put off if I ordered coffee and they tried to add sugar or
creamer before they handed me the coffee. Good grief, do they also
pre-condiment your burger? :-)

You order and get exactly what you want: nothing, cream, double milk,
etc etc. "Double double" means double cream with double sugar.


Interesting! I've never heard "double milk" or "double sugar, but I'd
have no trouble understanding it. But if someone said "double double,"
I wouldn't know what he meant.

It's a Canadian thing.

:-)

As is Timmie's. ;-)

Timmie's has a handful of locations where Canadians travel, eg along I75
in Michigan. But the new owners have plans to expand into the US and
other countries.

Yep, I'm aware of the Michigan locations, but I'll always consider it to
be Canadian.

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Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2017-03-23, PAS wrote:
On 3/23/2017 10:06 AM, PAS wrote:

Of course, the woman who put the cup between her legs and drove away
with it still between her legs bears no responsibility at all.

To clarify: she was not driving the car, she was a passenger. The
driver drove off while she held the cup of coffee between her legs.

Nope. The car wasn't moving when she put the cup between her legs to
remove the lid in order to add creamer, etc.

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PAS wrote:

On 3/23/2017 10:06 AM, PAS wrote:
On 3/22/2017 5:17 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Silver-Tongued Heel
wrote:

I guess this goes along with the lady that burned herself with
McDonald's hot coffee and won a suit that they should have warned her.

And they walk among us?
The reason the woman was burned, if I recall correctly, is because the
coffee's temperature was too hot (obviously) and because the ****ty car
she was in had no cup holder. In the end, if McDonald's can be sued for
the coffee being too hot then the car manufacturer should also have
been
sued for not providing a place for the old bag to put her drink.
you don't recall correctly, or at all, actually.

mcdonald's knowingly served coffee that was far too hot for human
consumption, which they knew could cause serious burns, which had
burned over 700 other people and they had *no* interest in changing
anything.

Of course, the woman who put the cup between her legs and drove away
with it still between her legs bears no responsibility at all.


To clarify: she was not driving the car, she was a passenger. The
driver drove off while she held the cup of coffee between her legs.

Why did the driver get off the hook? That was reckless
endangerment. The driver caused the burns by taking off in an
unsafe manner.

On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 08:44:31 +0000, Fritz Wuehler
wrote:

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PAS wrote:

On 3/23/2017 10:06 AM, PAS wrote:
On 3/22/2017 5:17 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Silver-Tongued Heel
wrote:

I guess this goes along with the lady that burned herself with
McDonald's hot coffee and won a suit that they should have warned her.

And they walk among us?
The reason the woman was burned, if I recall correctly, is because the
coffee's temperature was too hot (obviously) and because the ****ty car
she was in had no cup holder. In the end, if McDonald's can be sued for
the coffee being too hot then the car manufacturer should also have
been
sued for not providing a place for the old bag to put her drink.
you don't recall correctly, or at all, actually.

mcdonald's knowingly served coffee that was far too hot for human
consumption, which they knew could cause serious burns, which had
burned over 700 other people and they had *no* interest in changing
anything.

Of course, the woman who put the cup between her legs and drove away
with it still between her legs bears no responsibility at all.


To clarify: she was not driving the car, she was a passenger. The
driver drove off while she held the cup of coffee between her legs.

Why did the driver get off the hook? That was reckless
endangerment. The driver caused the burns by taking off in an
unsafe manner.

It's already been established that the car wasn't moving.

On 22/03/2017 8:54 PM, Yes They Are That Stupid wrote:
One such person, 32-year-old Richard Bull of London, died on
December 11 from an electric shock he received when his iPhone
charger touched the water of the bath he was in. The coroner
examining the case, Dr. Sean Cummings, last week ruled the death
as accidental, but said he intended to ask Apple to take steps
to help prevent further such incidents.

This accident could happen with older generation of mobile phones. And
don't forget about the light switches.

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On 3/23/2017 5:52 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-03-23 18:18:40 +0000, Wolf K said:

On 2017-03-23 11:20, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 10:45:12 -0400, Wolf K wrote
:

On 2017-03-23 10:26, Jolly Roger wrote:
Nope. The car wasn't moving when she put the cup between her legs to
remove the lid in order to add creamer, etc.

Good grief. Do you mean that McDonald's didn't add that before handing

her the coffee?

I guess one reason that we prefer Timmie's is that they add the
cream/milk/sugar before they hand you the coffee. And while it's hot,
it's never too hot.

I guess it comes down to expectations and what you're used to, but I'd
be quite put off if I ordered coffee and they tried to add sugar or
creamer before they handed me the coffee. Good grief, do they also
pre-condiment your burger? :-)

You order and get exactly what you want: nothing, cream, double milk,
etc etc. "Double double" means double cream with double sugar. For some
reason, a lot of people like that. Not me, I hate sugar in coffee. ;-)

Have a good day,

In California a "Double-Double" is the In-n-Out Burger go-to burger.

I've not eaten at an In-n-Out Burger place yet.

The double-double is also a a burger at a great independent place on
Long Island "All-American Burger". It was featured on Travel Channel's
"Hamburger Paradise" show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5ivMlIq4sI

Here's their double double:
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Location..._New_York.html

On 2017-03-24 13:10:51 +0000, PAS said:

On 3/23/2017 5:52 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-03-23 18:18:40 +0000, Wolf K said:

On 2017-03-23 11:20, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 10:45:12 -0400, Wolf K wrote
:

On 2017-03-23 10:26, Jolly Roger wrote:
Nope. The car wasn't moving when she put the cup between her legs to
remove the lid in order to add creamer, etc.

Good grief. Do you mean that McDonald's didn't add that before handing

her the coffee?

I guess one reason that we prefer Timmie's is that they add the
cream/milk/sugar before they hand you the coffee. And while it's hot,
it's never too hot.

I guess it comes down to expectations and what you're used to, but I'd
be quite put off if I ordered coffee and they tried to add sugar or
creamer before they handed me the coffee. Good grief, do they also
pre-condiment your burger? :-)

You order and get exactly what you want: nothing, cream, double milk,
etc etc. "Double double" means double cream with double sugar. For some
reason, a lot of people like that. Not me, I hate sugar in coffee. ;-)

Have a good day,

In California a "Double-Double" is the In-n-Out Burger go-to burger.

I've not eaten at an In-n-Out Burger place yet.

The double-double is also a a burger at a great independent place on
Long Island "All-American Burger". It was featured on Travel Channel's
"Hamburger Paradise" show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5ivMlIq4sI

Here's their double double:
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Location..._New_York.html

Hmmm...
Note:

"Double-Double" is an In-n-Out registered trademark.
http://www.in-n-out.com/mobile/double-double.aspx
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