Consumers' privacy concerns not backed by their actions

Snit wrote:
On 6/3/18 7:59 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Snit wrote:
On 6/2/18 1:31 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

I'll stick to the one 90% of the population uses. More programs
available

yep

(no I won't say "apps", those are for phones),

app is short for application, a term that dates back at least to the
80s, probably even earlier

Right. It is the term Apple has used since AT LEAST the start of the Mac.

Who cares!? We're talking about the *real* world! (Just kidding!)

FWIW, I only first encountered the term for mobile devices, yes
Apples'. OTOH, 'applet' was known (to me) well before that time.


You only encountered it with mobile devices so you think that means the
term was not used... and more than that want to restrict how others use
the term!

Why?

https://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2011/10/14/the-rise-of-the-app/
But, unlike smartphones and tablets, app isn¹t new. According to the
OED?s historical entry for the word, app as a shortening of
application (as in application program) first found its way into
print in the 1980s. Back then it was mainly a colloquial term used in
computing circles: the OED?s early quotations for it come from such
computing trade publications as Info World and Dr. Dobb¹s Journal. It
often appeared not by itself but as part of the phrase killer app,
meaning a software application which makes a new computing platform
desirable or necessary. Later, it became part of webapp, meaning an
application made available as a website, but as a word used on its
own it remained relatively uncommon.

Good to see you found where "application" has been in use for quite some
time in this context. Heck, if you go to 1984 with the Macintosh it was
the primary term used. Since then it has been often shortened to just
"app", much as "Macintosh" itself has been shortened to "Mac".

Huh? The discussion was not about the term 'application', but about
the term 'app'. IME, the term 'application' has been in use at least as

"App" as an abbreviation for "application" goes back to at least 1981.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/app
-----
First Known Use of APP
1981
-----

It would have been nice if this part gave a actual reference. Not that
I doubt it, but without a reference, it's just a date.

The word itself, with any meaning, has been around a LOT longer, tjough
in recent years spiking in 1991 and 2003:
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/app

(See the "Trends of 'app'" section. "

But *because* the word "has been around a LOT longer", we have no
indication whether or not that spike is (only) for the computer-related
meaning of the word or (also) for the *non* computer-related meanings
(appendix, applied, appointed, apprentice, approved, etc. (appetizer
(Merriam-Webster)).

Anyway, considering what this (non-)discussion is about, it's funny to
see that both your references *do* confirm *our* (Jimmy Wilkinson Knife's
and my) POV! :-) :

[Emphasis mine:]

MW
*especially* : an application designed for a mobile device (such as a
smartphone)
/MW

CD
An app is a computer program that is designed for use on a mobile
digital device.
....
App in British
....
*esp* downloaded to a mobile device
/CD

(AFAIC,) EOD.

On 6/3/18 12:00 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Snit wrote:
On 6/3/18 7:59 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Snit wrote:
On 6/2/18 1:31 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

I'll stick to the one 90% of the population uses. More programs
available

yep

(no I won't say "apps", those are for phones),

app is short for application, a term that dates back at least to the
80s, probably even earlier

Right. It is the term Apple has used since AT LEAST the start of the Mac.

Who cares!? We're talking about the *real* world! (Just kidding!)

FWIW, I only first encountered the term for mobile devices, yes
Apples'. OTOH, 'applet' was known (to me) well before that time.


You only encountered it with mobile devices so you think that means the
term was not used... and more than that want to restrict how others use
the term!

Why?

https://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2011/10/14/the-rise-of-the-app/
But, unlike smartphones and tablets, app isn¹t new. According to the
OED?s historical entry for the word, app as a shortening of
application (as in application program) first found its way into
print in the 1980s. Back then it was mainly a colloquial term used in
computing circles: the OED?s early quotations for it come from such
computing trade publications as Info World and Dr. Dobb¹s Journal. It
often appeared not by itself but as part of the phrase killer app,
meaning a software application which makes a new computing platform
desirable or necessary. Later, it became part of webapp, meaning an
application made available as a website, but as a word used on its
own it remained relatively uncommon.

Good to see you found where "application" has been in use for quite some
time in this context. Heck, if you go to 1984 with the Macintosh it was
the primary term used. Since then it has been often shortened to just
"app", much as "Macintosh" itself has been shortened to "Mac".

Huh? The discussion was not about the term 'application', but about
the term 'app'. IME, the term 'application' has been in use at least as

"App" as an abbreviation for "application" goes back to at least 1981.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/app
-----
First Known Use of APP
1981
-----

It would have been nice if this part gave a actual reference. Not that
I doubt it, but without a reference, it's just a date.

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The word itself, with any meaning, has been around a LOT longer, tjough
in recent years spiking in 1991 and 2003:
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/app

(See the "Trends of 'app'" section. "

But *because* the word "has been around a LOT longer", we have no
indication whether or not that spike is (only) for the computer-related
meaning of the word or (also) for the *non* computer-related meanings
(appendix, applied, appointed, apprentice, approved, etc. (appetizer
(Merriam-Webster)).

Anyway, considering what this (non-)discussion is about, it's funny to
see that both your references *do* confirm *our* (Jimmy Wilkinson Knife's
and my) POV! :-) :

[Emphasis mine:]

MW
*especially* : an application designed for a mobile device (such as a
smartphone)
/MW

CD
An app is a computer program that is designed for use on a mobile
digital device.
....
App in British
....
*esp* downloaded to a mobile device
/CD

(AFAIC,) EOD.


Wow... this is how Thunderbird shows me your post. What a garbage program.

Anyway, back on topic... I showed you that the word in this context goes
back to at least 1981. It is not as though it is new. YOU might not have
encountered it. Fine. Not sure what other point you are trying to make.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308

In article
Frank Slootweg wrote:

Snit wrote:
On 6/3/18 7:59 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Snit wrote:
On 6/2/18 1:31 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

I'll stick to the one 90% of the population uses. More programs
available

yep

(no I won't say "apps", those are for phones),

app is short for application, a term that dates back at least to the
80s, probably even earlier

Right. It is the term Apple has used since AT LEAST the start of the Mac.

Who cares!? We're talking about the *real* world! (Just kidding!)

FWIW, I only first encountered the term for mobile devices, yes
Apples'. OTOH, 'applet' was known (to me) well before that time.


You only encountered it with mobile devices so you think that means the
term was not used... and more than that want to restrict how others use
the term!

Why?

https://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2011/10/14/the-rise-of-the-app/
But, unlike smartphones and tablets, app isn¹t new. According to the
OED?s historical entry for the word, app as a shortening of
application (as in application program) first found its way into
print in the 1980s. Back then it was mainly a colloquial term used in
computing circles: the OED?s early quotations for it come from such
computing trade publications as Info World and Dr. Dobb¹s Journal. It
often appeared not by itself but as part of the phrase killer app,
meaning a software application which makes a new computing platform
desirable or necessary. Later, it became part of webapp, meaning an
application made available as a website, but as a word used on its
own it remained relatively uncommon.

Good to see you found where "application" has been in use for quite some
time in this context. Heck, if you go to 1984 with the Macintosh it was
the primary term used. Since then it has been often shortened to just
"app", much as "Macintosh" itself has been shortened to "Mac".

Huh? The discussion was not about the term 'application', but about
the term 'app'. IME, the term 'application' has been in use at least as

"App" as an abbreviation for "application" goes back to at least 1981.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/app
-----
First Known Use of APP
1981
-----

It would have been nice if this part gave a actual reference. Not that
I doubt it, but without a reference, it's just a date.

The word itself, with any meaning, has been around a LOT longer, tjough
in recent years spiking in 1991 and 2003:
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/app

(See the "Trends of 'app'" section. "

But *because* the word "has been around a LOT longer", we have no
indication whether or not that spike is (only) for the computer-related
meaning of the word or (also) for the *non* computer-related meanings
(appendix, applied, appointed, apprentice, approved, etc. (appetizer
(Merriam-Webster)).

Anyway, considering what this (non-)discussion is about, it's funny to
see that both your references *do* confirm *our* (Jimmy Wilkinson Knife's
and my) POV! :-) :

[Emphasis mine:]

MW
*especially* : an application designed for a mobile device (such as a
smartphone)
/MW

CD
An app is a computer program that is designed for use on a mobile
digital device.
...
App in British
...
*esp* downloaded to a mobile device
/CD

(AFAIC,) EOD.

On 2018-06-03, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
Intel graphics is pretty horrid, but it seems to be catching up with
discrete graphics cards which have pretty much stayed still for the last
few years.

Intel graphics is awful for gaming, especially on older and lower-end chips.
However it is perfectly fine for most general internet activities such as
reading emails, browsing web sites, watching facetube videos, etc. The
target market for the Wow and similar computers is probably not much
interested in games beyond Solitaire and Mahjong.

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In article
Roger Blake wrote:

On 2018-06-03, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
Intel graphics is pretty horrid, but it seems to be catching up with
discrete graphics cards which have pretty much stayed still for the last
few years.

Intel graphics is awful for gaming, especially on older and lower-end chips.
However it is perfectly fine for most general internet activities such as
reading emails, browsing web sites, watching facetube videos, etc. The
target market for the Wow and similar computers is probably not much
interested in games beyond Solitaire and Mahjong.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.)

NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com
Don't talk to cops! -- http://www.DontTalkToCops.com
Badges don't grant extra rights -- http://www.CopBlock.org
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Frank Slootweg wrote:

Snit wrote:

*plonk*

Ant wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Snit wrote:

*plonk*

nospam wrote:

In article , Snit
wrote:

*plonk*

Roger Blake wrote:

On 2018-06-02, Snit wrote:

*plonk*

On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 07:20:41 -0500, chrisv
wrote:

Frank Slootweg wrote:

Snit wrote:

*plonk*

Soon, the only things that won't be "plonked" are your own posts.

SilverSlimer wrote:

chrisv wrote:

Frank Slootweg wrote:

Snit wrote:

*plonk*

Soon, the only things that won't be "plonked" are your own posts.

Nah. Today's batch of plonkees were all from other newsgroups. I
just felt like making the point that troll feeding is not advisable
behavior.

--
'I have noted before how the herd sees me as a god.' - the "Snit"
thing

In article
chrisv wrote:

SilverSlimer wrote:

chrisv wrote:

Frank Slootweg wrote:

Snit wrote:

*plonk*

Soon, the only things that won't be "plonked" are your own posts.

Nah. Today's batch of plonkees were all from other newsgroups. I
just felt like making the point that troll feeding is not advisable
behavior.

On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 10:38:37 -0500, chrisv
wrote:

--
'I have noted before how the herd sees me as a god.' - the "Snit"
thing

Damn, our standards must have dropped to critical levels!

On 06/08/2018 12:03 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 10:38:37 -0500, chrisv
wrote:

--
'I have noted before how the herd sees me as a god.' - the "Snit"
thing

Damn, our standards must have dropped to critical levels!


Yep, its a bitch when you have to dig *up* to find the bottom.

Rene

On 6/8/18 10:03 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 10:38:37 -0500, chrisv
wrote:

--
'I have noted before how the herd sees me as a god.' - the "Snit"
thing

Damn, our standards must have dropped to critical levels!

Hey, Carroll still claims I am a Hollywood Hacker who can do things it
took he and Sandman years to figure out, AND that I hacked his Gmail
account in a way Google and "several federal agencies" could not (and
cannot) stop.

Yeah, pretty much a god.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308