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On 11/12/18 9:35 AM, Spooge wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 20:43:42 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
On 11/11/18 5:26 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-11 17:39, Snit wrote:
On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
[...]
That's fine.
I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but
notice above
where I noted your misleading link.

To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
Why do you suppose they would do that.
As a percent of total spending, defenseÂ*Â* is 12.5%.
As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.

Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates the
military
percentage and understates the education percentage.

Naughty, naughty.


You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.

I think percent of GDP is a better comparator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_expenditures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._(%25_of _GDP)


USA spends about 4.9% of GDP on education, and about 3.1% on defence.

Military:
#1 in the world, based on data from 2018.

We are number one based on total spending, but since our GDP is huge, it isn't
surprising.


I will admit my guess, though, would have been higher than 3.1% for
defense. Still very high.

Looks to be number 3.

Ah, yes. Re-looking at the page I stand corrected. Saudi Arabia and
Russia are #1 and #2, the US is #3. Thanks for the correction.

Education:
#58 in the world, based on data from 2013.

We are not number 58 in the world.

Also correct: I goofed there, too. We are #86!

We spend more than any other country, and rank high in spending/GDP.
Where we rank lowest is test scores.
Hmmm, wonder what that shows

I'm not sure what the ordering of that list means.

You can click on the columns to get the order. I goofed and did not. Now
I have.

So we are #3 on military spending, #86 on education spending, based on
those links (which are not the same year so the data is not perfect but
gets the idea across -- we put a LOT more focus on the military compared
to education than do most counties).

....


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 14:22:40 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
On 11/12/18 9:35 AM, Spooge wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 20:43:42 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
On 11/11/18 5:26 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-11 17:39, Snit wrote:
On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
[...]
That's fine.
I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but
notice above
where I noted your misleading link.

To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
Why do you suppose they would do that.
As a percent of total spending, defenseÂ*Â* is 12.5%.
As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.

Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates the
military
percentage and understates the education percentage.

Naughty, naughty.


You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.

I think percent of GDP is a better comparator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_expenditures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._(%25_of _GDP)


USA spends about 4.9% of GDP on education, and about 3.1% on defence.

Military:
#1 in the world, based on data from 2018.

We are number one based on total spending, but since our GDP is huge, it isn't
surprising.


I will admit my guess, though, would have been higher than 3.1% for
defense. Still very high.

Looks to be number 3.

Ah, yes. Re-looking at the page I stand corrected. Saudi Arabia and
Russia are #1 and #2, the US is #3. Thanks for the correction.

Education:
#58 in the world, based on data from 2013.

We are not number 58 in the world.

Also correct: I goofed there, too. We are #86!

Right, so by that ranking Lesotho is #2.
Because they spend 13% GDP, where the per capita income is $83/month and life
expectancy is 42 years.


We spend more than any other country, and rank high in spending/GDP.
Where we rank lowest is test scores.
Hmmm, wonder what that shows

I'm not sure what the ordering of that list means.

You can click on the columns to get the order. I goofed and did not. Now
I have.

I also didn't know they where clickable, I block script.

So we are #3 on military spending, #86 on education spending, based on
those links (which are not the same year so the data is not perfect but
gets the idea across -- we put a LOT more focus on the military compared
to education than do most counties).

Yeah, Lesotho scores 84 ranks ahead of the USA.
That why caravans of people want to live in Lesotho.

You should move there.
If you take a flashlight, they'll probably make you king.

--
Do not write below this line
____________________________

On 2018-11-12 1:40 p.m., Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-12 12:08, SilverSlimer wrote:
On 2018-11-12 9:03 a.m., Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-11 22:43, Snit wrote:
On 11/11/18 5:26 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-11 17:39, Snit wrote:
On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
[...]
That's fine.
I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but
notice above
where I noted your misleading link.

To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
Why do you suppose they would do that.
As a percent of total spending, defenseÂ*Â* is 12.5%.
As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.

Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates
the military
percentage and understates the education percentage.

Naughty, naughty.


You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.

I think percent of GDP is a better comparator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_expenditures


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._(%25_of _GDP)


USA spends about 4.9% of GDP on education, and about 3.1% on defence.

Military:
#1 in the world, based on data from 2018.

I will admit my guess, though, would have been higher than 3.1% for
defense. Still very high.

Education:
#58 in the world, based on data from 2013.

And our trend has been downward in education:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SE.XPD.TOTL.GD.ZS?end=2014&locations=US&start=2010 &view=chart


Used to be closer to what you show for Canada.

Canada spends 5.5% of GDP on education, and about 1.25% on defence.
Best data I have seen anyone else post. Thank you. Not from the same
year, which does add some confounding factors, BUT the data seems
reasonably solid. And it also puts it into context of how much we
spend compared to others. As you note, Canada does a MUCH better job
on focusing on education (though I think we can also safely say the
US has more reason to put money into defense).

Here are the tope 100 arms manufacturers in 2009 and 2010:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/dat...-100-producers

You'll note that 8 of the top 10 are American. I doubt that has
changed much since 2010. Also, many of the non-US companies are
subsidiaries of the larger US companies.

Not sure the connection you are trying to make here.

When Donald Trump complains about underspending on defence by other
NATO nations, IMO the context is that a large chunk of that spending
is for US made weapons.

No, his meaning is that the European nations which were at some point
"saved" by American presence in the continent during the Cold War are
all now taking it for granted and deciding that they don't need to pay
into it. While Europe, at one point, was rebuilding and couldn't
afford to provide its own protection (hence, the Marshall Plan), they
now have the means and the funds to do so and should at least assist
the United States in paying for the protection especially since they
will be solely responsible for the next, religious conflict to come
(Christians/Jews vs. Muslims and their useful idiot atheists created
by their decision to "tolerate" murderous invaders from Africa and the
Middle East).

I know that Poland have stepped forward to help foot the bill but who
else?


You obviously know a lot of Muslims.

I do, actually. The reality is that while a handful of Muslims might
actually be peace-loving and desire to be a part of the community, once
their numbers swell, that desire for peace quickly turns into a desire
to change the host country into one which follows the Islamic belief. At
first they ask for tolerance, then concessions for their faith and soon
they're demanding that we all adapt to them rather than the other way
around. We've seen it in a number of Western countries to the point that
some of them are avoided altogether by tourists (France, for instance)
and there is no reason whatsoever to believe that they will somehow do
differently in Canada and in the United States. They've already demanded
all sorts of changes in Canada, none of them reported by the media which
seeks to protect them, yet those changes still happened.

As a fellow Canadian, I'm sure you feel fantastic knowing that Trudeau
has already given away millions to _convicted_ terrorists and that he is
willing to pay taxpayer money to bring in yet another who has been
deemed unfit for England and who isn't even a Canadian citizen. Our
beloeved man-child of a Prime Minister will bend over backwards for the
people who seek to take over our country and eventually put a sword to
our throats but doesn't even bat an eye at the fact that Christians are
systematically being slaughtered by these "peaceful," "wonderful" people
in the Middle East.

So a big middle finger to you and your ignorant belief that these people
as well as their faith is somehow peaceful. I actually read the Qu'ran
and I doubt sincerely that you have so read it, IN REVERSE CHRONOLOGICAL
ORDER to remove their pathetic encryption, and see for yourself what
these pedophile-worshipping barbarians have planned for us all.

--
SilverSlimer
Minds: @silverslimer

On 11/12/18 3:00 PM, Spooge wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 14:22:40 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
On 11/12/18 9:35 AM, Spooge wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 20:43:42 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
On 11/11/18 5:26 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-11 17:39, Snit wrote:
On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
[...]
That's fine.
I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but
notice above
where I noted your misleading link.

To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
Why do you suppose they would do that.
As a percent of total spending, defenseÂ*Â* is 12.5%.
As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.

Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates the
military
percentage and understates the education percentage.

Naughty, naughty.


You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.

I think percent of GDP is a better comparator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_expenditures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._(%25_of _GDP)


USA spends about 4.9% of GDP on education, and about 3.1% on defence.

Military:
#1 in the world, based on data from 2018.

We are number one based on total spending, but since our GDP is huge, it isn't
surprising.


I will admit my guess, though, would have been higher than 3.1% for
defense. Still very high.

Looks to be number 3.

Ah, yes. Re-looking at the page I stand corrected. Saudi Arabia and
Russia are #1 and #2, the US is #3. Thanks for the correction.

Education:
#58 in the world, based on data from 2013.

We are not number 58 in the world.

Also correct: I goofed there, too. We are #86!

Right,

Good we reached agreement.

For below, I did not check the data for Lesotho.

so by that ranking Lesotho is #2.
Because they spend 13% GDP, where the per capita income is $83/month and life
expectancy is 42 years.


We spend more than any other country, and rank high in spending/GDP.
Where we rank lowest is test scores.
Hmmm, wonder what that shows

I'm not sure what the ordering of that list means.

You can click on the columns to get the order. I goofed and did not. Now
I have.

I also didn't know they where clickable, I block script.

I knew it... I just goofed as I looked at it. Fully my error -- but
corrected now. Thanks or your pointing out my mistake (sincerely... I
appreciate when people correct me).

So we are #3 on military spending, #86 on education spending, based on
those links (which are not the same year so the data is not perfect but
gets the idea across -- we put a LOT more focus on the military compared
to education than do most counties).

Yeah, Lesotho scores 84 ranks ahead of the USA.
That why caravans of people want to live in Lesotho.

I am not aware of any such caravan and fail to see the connection you
are trying to make.

You should move there.
If you take a flashlight, they'll probably make you king.

Seems like an odd way to select a king, but I will not pretend to know
anything about their politics.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308

On 11/12/18 4:33 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
On 2018-11-12 1:40 p.m., Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-12 12:08, SilverSlimer wrote:
On 2018-11-12 9:03 a.m., Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-11 22:43, Snit wrote:
On 11/11/18 5:26 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-11 17:39, Snit wrote:
On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
[...]
That's fine.
I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but
notice above
where I noted your misleading link.

To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
Why do you suppose they would do that.
As a percent of total spending, defenseÂ*Â* is 12.5%.
As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.

Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates
the military
percentage and understates the education percentage.

Naughty, naughty.


You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.

I think percent of GDP is a better comparator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_expenditures


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._(%25_of _GDP)


USA spends about 4.9% of GDP on education, and about 3.1% on defence.

Military:
#1 in the world, based on data from 2018.

I will admit my guess, though, would have been higher than 3.1% for
defense. Still very high.

Education:
#58 in the world, based on data from 2013.

And our trend has been downward in education:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SE.XPD.TOTL.GD.ZS?end=2014&locations=US&start=2010 &view=chart


Used to be closer to what you show for Canada.

Canada spends 5.5% of GDP on education, and about 1.25% on defence.
Best data I have seen anyone else post. Thank you. Not from the
same year, which does add some confounding factors, BUT the data
seems reasonably solid. And it also puts it into context of how
much we spend compared to others. As you note, Canada does a MUCH
better job on focusing on education (though I think we can also
safely say the US has more reason to put money into defense).

Here are the tope 100 arms manufacturers in 2009 and 2010:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/dat...-100-producers

You'll note that 8 of the top 10 are American. I doubt that has
changed much since 2010. Also, many of the non-US companies are
subsidiaries of the larger US companies.

Not sure the connection you are trying to make here.

When Donald Trump complains about underspending on defence by other
NATO nations, IMO the context is that a large chunk of that spending
is for US made weapons.

No, his meaning is that the European nations which were at some point
"saved" by American presence in the continent during the Cold War are
all now taking it for granted and deciding that they don't need to
pay into it. While Europe, at one point, was rebuilding and couldn't
afford to provide its own protection (hence, the Marshall Plan), they
now have the means and the funds to do so and should at least assist
the United States in paying for the protection especially since they
will be solely responsible for the next, religious conflict to come
(Christians/Jews vs. Muslims and their useful idiot atheists created
by their decision to "tolerate" murderous invaders from Africa and
the Middle East).

I know that Poland have stepped forward to help foot the bill but who
else?


You obviously know a lot of Muslims.

I do, actually. The reality is that while a handful of Muslims might
actually be peace-loving and desire to be a part of the community, once
their numbers swell, that desire for peace quickly turns into a desire
to change the host country into one which follows the Islamic belief.

Much as you push Christian beliefs.

At
first they ask for tolerance, then concessions for their faith and soon
they're demanding that we all adapt to them rather than the other way
around. We've seen it in a number of Western countries to the point that
some of them are avoided altogether by tourists (France, for instance)
and there is no reason whatsoever to believe that they will somehow do
differently in Canada and in the United States. They've already demanded
all sorts of changes in Canada, none of them reported by the media which
seeks to protect them, yet those changes still happened.

Are you speaking of the Christians or the Muslims? Seems to apply to both.

As a fellow Canadian, I'm sure you feel fantastic knowing that Trudeau
has already given away millions to _convicted_ terrorists and that he is
willing to pay taxpayer money to bring in yet another who has been
deemed unfit for England and who isn't even a Canadian citizen. Our
beloeved man-child of a Prime Minister will bend over backwards for the
people who seek to take over our country and eventually put a sword to
our throats but doesn't even bat an eye at the fact that Christians are
systematically being slaughtered by these "peaceful," "wonderful" people
in the Middle East.

He does not share your bigotry toward Muslims. Got it.

So a big middle finger to you and your ignorant belief that these people
as well as their faith is somehow peaceful. I actually read the Qu'ran
and I doubt sincerely that you have so read it, IN REVERSE CHRONOLOGICAL
ORDER to remove their pathetic encryption, and see for yourself what
these pedophile-worshipping barbarians have planned for us all.

You pretend the Bible is somehow better than the Qu'ran... a demand for
special entitlements for Christians.




--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308

On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:51:06 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
On 11/12/18 3:00 PM, Spooge wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 14:22:40 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
On 11/12/18 9:35 AM, Spooge wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 20:43:42 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
On 11/11/18 5:26 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-11 17:39, Snit wrote:
On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
[...]
That's fine.
I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but
notice above
where I noted your misleading link.

To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
Why do you suppose they would do that.
As a percent of total spending, defenseÂ*Â* is 12.5%.
As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.

Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates the
military
percentage and understates the education percentage.

Naughty, naughty.


You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.

I think percent of GDP is a better comparator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_expenditures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._(%25_of _GDP)


USA spends about 4.9% of GDP on education, and about 3.1% on defence.

Military:
#1 in the world, based on data from 2018.

We are number one based on total spending, but since our GDP is huge, it isn't
surprising.


I will admit my guess, though, would have been higher than 3.1% for
defense. Still very high.

Looks to be number 3.

Ah, yes. Re-looking at the page I stand corrected. Saudi Arabia and
Russia are #1 and #2, the US is #3. Thanks for the correction.

Education:
#58 in the world, based on data from 2013.

We are not number 58 in the world.

Also correct: I goofed there, too. We are #86!

Right,

Good we reached agreement.

No we didn't, doofus.

For below, I did not check the data for Lesotho.

No one checks the data for Lesotho.
Only a wacko would compare Lesotho to the United States.
Lesotho GDP- $2,721,000,000
United States GDP-$19,390,600,000,000

More realistic comparisons he
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_cmd.asp

so by that ranking Lesotho is #2.
Because they spend 13% GDP, where the per capita income is $83/month and life
expectancy is 42 years.


We spend more than any other country, and rank high in spending/GDP.
Where we rank lowest is test scores.
Hmmm, wonder what that shows

I'm not sure what the ordering of that list means.

You can click on the columns to get the order. I goofed and did not. Now
I have.

I also didn't know they where clickable, I block script.

I knew it... I just goofed as I looked at it. Fully my error -- but
corrected now. Thanks or your pointing out my mistake (sincerely... I
appreciate when people correct me).

It didn't _matter_ .

So we are #3 on military spending, #86 on education spending, based on
those links (which are not the same year so the data is not perfect but
gets the idea across -- we put a LOT more focus on the military compared
to education than do most counties).

Yeah, Lesotho scores 84 ranks ahead of the USA.
That why caravans of people want to live in Lesotho.

I am not aware of any such caravan and fail to see the connection you
are trying to make.

You don't _see_ a problem with Lesotho out-ranking the US in education?

You should move there.
If you take a flashlight, they'll probably make you king.

Seems like an odd way to select a king, but I will not pretend to know
anything about their politics.

You're not too swift.

--
Do not write below this line
____________________________

On 11/13/18 4:49 PM, Spooge wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:51:06 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
On 11/12/18 3:00 PM, Spooge wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 14:22:40 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
On 11/12/18 9:35 AM, Spooge wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 20:43:42 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
On 11/11/18 5:26 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-11 17:39, Snit wrote:
On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
[...]
That's fine.
I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but
notice above
where I noted your misleading link.

To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
Why do you suppose they would do that.
As a percent of total spending, defenseÂ*Â* is 12.5%.
As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.

Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates the
military
percentage and understates the education percentage.

Naughty, naughty.


You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.

I think percent of GDP is a better comparator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_expenditures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._(%25_of _GDP)


USA spends about 4.9% of GDP on education, and about 3.1% on defence.

Military:
#1 in the world, based on data from 2018.

We are number one based on total spending, but since our GDP is huge, it isn't
surprising.


I will admit my guess, though, would have been higher than 3.1% for
defense. Still very high.

Looks to be number 3.

Ah, yes. Re-looking at the page I stand corrected. Saudi Arabia and
Russia are #1 and #2, the US is #3. Thanks for the correction.

Education:
#58 in the world, based on data from 2013.

We are not number 58 in the world.

Also correct: I goofed there, too. We are #86!

Right,

Good we reached agreement.

No we didn't, doofus.

For below, I did not check the data for Lesotho.

No one checks the data for Lesotho.
Only a wacko would compare Lesotho to the United States.
Lesotho GDP- $2,721,000,000
United States GDP-$19,390,600,000,000

More realistic comparisons he
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_cmd.asp

so by that ranking Lesotho is #2.
Because they spend 13% GDP, where the per capita income is $83/month and life
expectancy is 42 years.


We spend more than any other country, and rank high in spending/GDP.
Where we rank lowest is test scores.
Hmmm, wonder what that shows

I'm not sure what the ordering of that list means.

You can click on the columns to get the order. I goofed and did not. Now
I have.

I also didn't know they where clickable, I block script.

I knew it... I just goofed as I looked at it. Fully my error -- but
corrected now. Thanks or your pointing out my mistake (sincerely... I
appreciate when people correct me).

It didn't _matter_ .

So we are #3 on military spending, #86 on education spending, based on
those links (which are not the same year so the data is not perfect but
gets the idea across -- we put a LOT more focus on the military compared
to education than do most counties).

Yeah, Lesotho scores 84 ranks ahead of the USA.
That why caravans of people want to live in Lesotho.

I am not aware of any such caravan and fail to see the connection you
are trying to make.

You don't _see_ a problem with Lesotho out-ranking the US in education?

Nope. If you do by all means explain.

You should move there.
If you take a flashlight, they'll probably make you king.

Seems like an odd way to select a king, but I will not pretend to know
anything about their politics.

You're not too swift.

You are the one suggesting people would make me their king merely for
having a flashlight.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308

On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:51:38 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
On 11/13/18 4:49 PM, Spooge wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:51:06 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
On 11/12/18 3:00 PM, Spooge wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 14:22:40 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
On 11/12/18 9:35 AM, Spooge wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 20:43:42 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
On 11/11/18 5:26 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-11 17:39, Snit wrote:
On 11/11/18 3:26 PM, Spooge wrote:
[...]
That's fine.
I'm not sure if you are intentionally unaware of the facts, but
notice above
where I noted your misleading link.

To get the 54% they mention discretionary spending.
Why do you suppose they would do that.
As a percent of total spending, defenseÂ*Â* is 12.5%.
As a percent of total spending, education is 15.2%.

Hiding non-discretionary spending, state, local taxes inflates the
military
percentage and understates the education percentage.

Naughty, naughty.


You making up numbers with no support is, well, no support.

I think percent of GDP is a better comparator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_expenditures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._(%25_of _GDP)


USA spends about 4.9% of GDP on education, and about 3.1% on defence.

Military:
#1 in the world, based on data from 2018.

We are number one based on total spending, but since our GDP is huge, it isn't
surprising.


I will admit my guess, though, would have been higher than 3.1% for
defense. Still very high.

Looks to be number 3.

Ah, yes. Re-looking at the page I stand corrected. Saudi Arabia and
Russia are #1 and #2, the US is #3. Thanks for the correction.

Education:
#58 in the world, based on data from 2013.

We are not number 58 in the world.

Also correct: I goofed there, too. We are #86!

Right,

Good we reached agreement.

No we didn't, doofus.

For below, I did not check the data for Lesotho.

No one checks the data for Lesotho.
Only a wacko would compare Lesotho to the United States.
Lesotho GDP- $2,721,000,000
United States GDP-$19,390,600,000,000

More realistic comparisons he
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_cmd.asp

??


so by that ranking Lesotho is #2.
Because they spend 13% GDP, where the per capita income is $83/month and life
expectancy is 42 years.


We spend more than any other country, and rank high in spending/GDP.
Where we rank lowest is test scores.
Hmmm, wonder what that shows

I'm not sure what the ordering of that list means.

You can click on the columns to get the order. I goofed and did not. Now
I have.

I also didn't know they where clickable, I block script.

I knew it... I just goofed as I looked at it. Fully my error -- but
corrected now. Thanks or your pointing out my mistake (sincerely... I
appreciate when people correct me).

It didn't _matter_ .

So we are #3 on military spending, #86 on education spending, based on
those links (which are not the same year so the data is not perfect but
gets the idea across -- we put a LOT more focus on the military compared
to education than do most counties).

Yeah, Lesotho scores 84 ranks ahead of the USA.
That why caravans of people want to live in Lesotho.

I am not aware of any such caravan and fail to see the connection you
are trying to make.

You don't _see_ a problem with Lesotho out-ranking the US in education?

Nope. If you do by all means explain.

Let Wolf respond, he linked to wikipedia.

You should move there.
If you take a flashlight, they'll probably make you king.

Seems like an odd way to select a king, but I will not pretend to know
anything about their politics.

You're not too swift.

You are the one suggesting people would make me their king merely for
having a flashlight.

I have serious doubts Lesotho would make you a teacher.

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On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 09:27:50 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
On 2018-11-15 08:22, Spooge wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:51:38 -0700, S[...]
You don't _see_ a problem with Lesotho out-ranking the US in education?

Nope. If you do by all means explain.

Let Wolf respond, he linked to wikipedia.

[...]

High percentage of a small GDP will be a small actual spend. Low
percentage of a large GDP will be a large spend. Comparing GDP fractions
works reasonably well when GDP/person is in the same order of magnitude.
Thus, comparing US to oher G20 countries is a good first approximation.

Where the US ranks quite high
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_cmd.asp


The best comparator would be per capita spend, but even that has
problems. Averages hide details.

Spending is no comparator to results.
Spending in public schools is an indicator of how much is paid to teachers.
Spending on student's needs accounts for only 8% of spending.
Charter schools in the US outperform public schools routinely, yet for less
spending.

Easy example of how averages can mislead:

Set A (10,5,5) -- ave 6.7
Set B (16,2,2) -- ave 6.7

That's why statisticians prefer median and mode, plus standard
deviation, to characterise date sets.

Snot said we spend more on the military.
Snot says he's a teacher, yet Snot was wrong.
What is Snot teaching, one may wonder?

Best,

Back at ya.

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On 2018-11-15 11:35 a.m., Spooge wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 09:27:50 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
On 2018-11-15 08:22, Spooge wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:51:38 -0700, S[...]
You don't _see_ a problem with Lesotho out-ranking the US in education?

Nope. If you do by all means explain.

Let Wolf respond, he linked to wikipedia.

[...]

High percentage of a small GDP will be a small actual spend. Low
percentage of a large GDP will be a large spend. Comparing GDP fractions
works reasonably well when GDP/person is in the same order of magnitude.
Thus, comparing US to oher G20 countries is a good first approximation.

Where the US ranks quite high
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_cmd.asp


The best comparator would be per capita spend, but even that has
problems. Averages hide details.

Spending is no comparator to results.
Spending in public schools is an indicator of how much is paid to teachers.
Spending on student's needs accounts for only 8% of spending.
Charter schools in the US outperform public schools routinely, yet for less
spending.

Easy example of how averages can mislead:

Set A (10,5,5) -- ave 6.7
Set B (16,2,2) -- ave 6.7

That's why statisticians prefer median and mode, plus standard
deviation, to characterise date sets.

Snot said we spend more on the military.
Snot says he's a teacher, yet Snot was wrong.
What is Snot teaching, one may wonder?

He's not a teacher but when he IS in front of a classroom, he only
propagandizes.

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On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:09:42 -0500, SilverSlimer, tweeted:
On 2018-11-15 11:35 a.m., Spooge wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 09:27:50 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
On 2018-11-15 08:22, Spooge wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:51:38 -0700, S[...]
You don't _see_ a problem with Lesotho out-ranking the US in education?

Nope. If you do by all means explain.

Let Wolf respond, he linked to wikipedia.

[...]

High percentage of a small GDP will be a small actual spend. Low
percentage of a large GDP will be a large spend. Comparing GDP fractions
works reasonably well when GDP/person is in the same order of magnitude.
Thus, comparing US to oher G20 countries is a good first approximation.

Where the US ranks quite high
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_cmd.asp


The best comparator would be per capita spend, but even that has
problems. Averages hide details.

Spending is no comparator to results.
Spending in public schools is an indicator of how much is paid to teachers.
Spending on student's needs accounts for only 8% of spending.
Charter schools in the US outperform public schools routinely, yet for less
spending.

Easy example of how averages can mislead:

Set A (10,5,5) -- ave 6.7
Set B (16,2,2) -- ave 6.7

That's why statisticians prefer median and mode, plus standard
deviation, to characterise date sets.

Snot said we spend more on the military.
Snot says he's a teacher, yet Snot was wrong.
What is Snot teaching, one may wonder?

He's not a teacher but when he IS in front of a classroom, he only
propagandizes.


Oh, my bad.
I thought I read he teaches computer classes.
My mistake.
His argument lead me even more to believe he was.

And, once more, I support teachers.
I support many fields of endeavour, least of which is statistical
analysis

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On 2018-11-15 12:17 p.m., Spooge wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:09:42 -0500, SilverSlimer, tweeted:
On 2018-11-15 11:35 a.m., Spooge wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 09:27:50 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
On 2018-11-15 08:22, Spooge wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:51:38 -0700, S[...]
You don't _see_ a problem with Lesotho out-ranking the US in education?

Nope. If you do by all means explain.

Let Wolf respond, he linked to wikipedia.

[...]

High percentage of a small GDP will be a small actual spend. Low
percentage of a large GDP will be a large spend. Comparing GDP fractions
works reasonably well when GDP/person is in the same order of magnitude.
Thus, comparing US to oher G20 countries is a good first approximation.

Where the US ranks quite high
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_cmd.asp


The best comparator would be per capita spend, but even that has
problems. Averages hide details.

Spending is no comparator to results.
Spending in public schools is an indicator of how much is paid to teachers.
Spending on student's needs accounts for only 8% of spending.
Charter schools in the US outperform public schools routinely, yet for less
spending.

Easy example of how averages can mislead:

Set A (10,5,5) -- ave 6.7
Set B (16,2,2) -- ave 6.7

That's why statisticians prefer median and mode, plus standard
deviation, to characterise date sets.

Snot said we spend more on the military.
Snot says he's a teacher, yet Snot was wrong.
What is Snot teaching, one may wonder?

He's not a teacher but when he IS in front of a classroom, he only
propagandizes.


Oh, my bad.
I thought I read he teaches computer classes.
My mistake.
His argument lead me even more to believe he was.

And, once more, I support teachers.
I support many fields of endeavour, least of which is statistical
analysis

Snot likes to talk about his many experiences teaching but the reality
is that even the hillbillies of Prescott, Arizona aren't dumb enough to
employ him.


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Minds: @silverslimer

On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:49:38 -0500, SilverSlimer, tweeted:
On 2018-11-15 12:17 p.m., Spooge wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:09:42 -0500, SilverSlimer, tweeted:
On 2018-11-15 11:35 a.m., Spooge wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 09:27:50 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
On 2018-11-15 08:22, Spooge wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:51:38 -0700, S[...]
You don't _see_ a problem with Lesotho out-ranking the US in education?

Nope. If you do by all means explain.

Let Wolf respond, he linked to wikipedia.

[...]

High percentage of a small GDP will be a small actual spend. Low
percentage of a large GDP will be a large spend. Comparing GDP fractions
works reasonably well when GDP/person is in the same order of magnitude.
Thus, comparing US to oher G20 countries is a good first approximation.

Where the US ranks quite high
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_cmd.asp


The best comparator would be per capita spend, but even that has
problems. Averages hide details.

Spending is no comparator to results.
Spending in public schools is an indicator of how much is paid to teachers.
Spending on student's needs accounts for only 8% of spending.
Charter schools in the US outperform public schools routinely, yet for less
spending.

Easy example of how averages can mislead:

Set A (10,5,5) -- ave 6.7
Set B (16,2,2) -- ave 6.7

That's why statisticians prefer median and mode, plus standard
deviation, to characterise date sets.

Snot said we spend more on the military.
Snot says he's a teacher, yet Snot was wrong.
What is Snot teaching, one may wonder?

He's not a teacher but when he IS in front of a classroom, he only
propagandizes.


Oh, my bad.
I thought I read he teaches computer classes.
My mistake.
His argument lead me even more to believe he was.

And, once more, I support teachers.
I support many fields of endeavour, least of which is statistical
analysis

Snot likes to talk about his many experiences teaching but the reality
is that even the hillbillies of Prescott, Arizona aren't dumb enough to
employ him.

I'm no longer sure what he does.
He is one of the more obviously biased, clueless people I have read.
He must just be a union minion.
He's fun to argue with, because you know he'll likely be wrong

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On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 13:23:02 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
On 2018-11-15 13:01, Spooge wrote:
[...]
He's fun to argue with, because you know he'll likely be wrong

Ah, I see, you think of argument as a contest.

I think of it as a method of augmenting and rearranging knowledge so
that it's more accurate.

Glad I could set you right
We spend too much on education.

Your augmented reality made Lesotho the number 2 country in the world
for education.

Back it up at anytime

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On 2018-11-15 1:01 p.m., Spooge wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:49:38 -0500, SilverSlimer, tweeted:
On 2018-11-15 12:17 p.m., Spooge wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:09:42 -0500, SilverSlimer, tweeted:
On 2018-11-15 11:35 a.m., Spooge wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 09:27:50 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
On 2018-11-15 08:22, Spooge wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:51:38 -0700, S[...]
You don't _see_ a problem with Lesotho out-ranking the US in education?

Nope. If you do by all means explain.

Let Wolf respond, he linked to wikipedia.

[...]

High percentage of a small GDP will be a small actual spend. Low
percentage of a large GDP will be a large spend. Comparing GDP fractions
works reasonably well when GDP/person is in the same order of magnitude.
Thus, comparing US to oher G20 countries is a good first approximation.

Where the US ranks quite high
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_cmd.asp


The best comparator would be per capita spend, but even that has
problems. Averages hide details.

Spending is no comparator to results.
Spending in public schools is an indicator of how much is paid to teachers.
Spending on student's needs accounts for only 8% of spending.
Charter schools in the US outperform public schools routinely, yet for less
spending.

Easy example of how averages can mislead:

Set A (10,5,5) -- ave 6.7
Set B (16,2,2) -- ave 6.7

That's why statisticians prefer median and mode, plus standard
deviation, to characterise date sets.

Snot said we spend more on the military.
Snot says he's a teacher, yet Snot was wrong.
What is Snot teaching, one may wonder?

He's not a teacher but when he IS in front of a classroom, he only
propagandizes.


Oh, my bad.
I thought I read he teaches computer classes.
My mistake.
His argument lead me even more to believe he was.

And, once more, I support teachers.
I support many fields of endeavour, least of which is statistical
analysis

Snot likes to talk about his many experiences teaching but the reality
is that even the hillbillies of Prescott, Arizona aren't dumb enough to
employ him.

I'm no longer sure what he does.

Trolls Usenet 24/7.

He is one of the more obviously biased, clueless people I have read.

Absolutely everyone on Usenet concurs with your assessment.

He must just be a union minion.
He's fun to argue with, because you know he'll likely be wrong

Arguing to him is both pointless and fruitless. Your time can be better
spent watching paint dry or scouring the world in search of the heated
dirt Peter the Klöwn keeps referring to.

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