win10 software keeps XP from starting.

On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 09:17:57 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

On 2018-09-06 07:16, mechanic wrote:
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 11:23:13 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

Though language is a "living" thing (always changing), and
dictionaries, by definition, are always trailing the facts. In
other words, a dictonary describes "yesteryears" words, while the
populous has (presumably) already progressed to a
just-a-bit-different interpretation of it.

But to how many words would this scenario apply? There are tens if
not hundreds of thousands of words in the OED, how many are obsolete
and how many are current? This generation of kids will happily
redefine words to suit their purposes but their vocabulary is
counted in a few hundred words only.


Actually, they have the same range of of vocabulary sizes as their
elders did at the same age.

Quite possibly although they would be different words. I thought I
may have over estimated the number - kids I know seem to get by on
'wha..?', 'like', 'hashtag' and one or two others. Apparently there
is poll data that the number might be nearly 1000!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/educatio...rds-a-day.html

The OED makes some attempt to track changes (see the book Gilliver
mentioned) and:

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/ex...lish-language/

As far as relevance to the newsgroups goes, I think we can take it
that 'obsolete' is a disparaging word as in "he's using Windows7 -
how obsolete!"

mechanic,

I think we can take it that 'obsolete' is a disparaging word
as in "he's using Windows7 - how obsolete!"

Not according to the dictionary, but it's currently certainly used with such
a negative connotation.

Than again, putting two rather conflicting definitions on the same word -
which also makes it effectivily impossible to use in a normal conversation -
was just asking for it. Its current usage just combines parts of both
definitions, and tries to play it off as if its from a single one.
Disingenuous really.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 20:36:13 +0200, "R.Wieser"
wrote:

You shot yourself in the foot I'm afraid. :-)

If I may take the "no longer produced or used" as meaning that if "its still
produced OR its still used" its not obsolete, and "being driven from point A
to point B" constitutes to being used, than a car being driven is, by your
quoted definition, not obsolete.

As for the synonyms ? They all refer to something that determined by
consensus. Even the first two, as even if I take those to mean "best used
before" its something thats applicable to perishables, not cars.


You might be thinking of another use of "obsolete", being used by either
salespeople or the obnoxious neighbour/coworker/whomever who whants to show
off its new (and most always costly) shiny, while declaring anything not as
new/costly being of lesser/no value.

FYI: *anyone* trying to use "obsolete" as/in an argument gets automatically
red-flagged by me. They show that they cannot come up with a(n underbuild)
reasoning to why they need (a newer version of) something, and are using
"obsolete" as a magical "it explains everything" incantation. It doesn't.

My five cents.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

Windows XP and Windows 98 are both said to be obsolete. Well, I am
posting this using Win98. So Win98 is still useful. XP works fine for me
too. In fact the only two operating systems I use are these two. I have
no intention of upgrading. Anything newer is just bloated junk, that
requires far too much CPU power, not to mention all the spying and
tracking in the newer OSs.

If it was possible, I'd go back to the 1960s technology and stay there.
Thats when life was still simple and things were built to last and made
with pride. (Yea, I know there would not be any computers, and in many
ways, I'd be fine with that).

This coming Spring I will turn 65. I am waiting to get that notice in
the mail telling me my penis is obsolete. I am sure that'll be next.

On 09/06/2018 10:20 PM, wrote:

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This coming Spring I will turn 65. I am waiting to get that notice in
the mail telling me my penis is obsolete. I am sure that'll be next.

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