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Microsoft Changes WGA Following Spyware Allegations
HeyBub wrote:
Tom Willett wrote: http://www.informationweek.com/inter...leID=188703441 Yes. They were caught by surprise in the vast number of priated copies reporting in. The volume of data no doubt overwhelmed the poor folks. By off-loading some of the work to the client computers -- so called "distributed processing" -- the analysts at Micros~1 can concentrate on big trends and not be buried in the details. Source? Or are you dabbling in Fairy Tales? -- Peace! Kurt Kirsch Self-anointed Moderator http://microscum.com "It'll soon shake your Windows And rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin'." |
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Microsoft Changes WGA Following Spyware Allegations
"kurttrail" wrote in message ... HeyBub wrote: Tom Willett wrote: http://www.informationweek.com/inter...leID=188703441 Yes. They were caught by surprise in the vast number of priated copies reporting in. The volume of data no doubt overwhelmed the poor folks. By off-loading some of the work to the client computers -- so called "distributed processing" -- the analysts at Micros~1 can concentrate on big trends and not be buried in the details. How long until someone writes some code to spam their servers with millions of requests to validate bogus software? |
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Microsoft Changes WGA Following Spyware Allegations
POP wrote:
Tom Willett wrote: http://www.informationweek.com/inter...leID=188703441 If you want the real story, go to MS and read it there. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Yeah, I'm sure MS has paid for the best marketing talent to make up a nice bed time story. WGA and the Three Billion Pirates. Never, ever rely on the media for an accurate account of anything, not even quotes! Who needs the media, when it is quite clear that MS is the largest distributor of spy/malware on the planet Earth? Beta software that is absolutely no use to the security of the End User, disguised as a security high priority update, that phones home to MS. So when is the MSkeystroke Logger coming to Microsoft Update? All media links are good for are to tell you what to look for at the horse's mouth (or whichever end). I'm sure you are at the opposite end of the digestive tract from MS's mouth. -- Peace! Kurt Kirsch Self-anointed Moderator http://microscum.com "It'll soon shake your Windows And rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin'." |
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Microsoft Changes WGA Following Spyware Allegations
Who needs the media, when it is quite clear that MS is the largest
distributor of spy/malware on the planet Earth? Beta software that is absolutely no use to the security of the End User, disguised as a security high priority update, that phones home to MS. So when is the MSkeystroke Logger coming to Microsoft Update? It already is... The software "Compares user input". |
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Microsoft Changes WGA Following Spyware Allegations
Ghostrider wrote:
kurttrail wrote: Tom Willett wrote: http://www.informationweek.com/inter...leID=188703441 LOL! Instead of phoning home every day, MS is changing it to every 14 days! Whoopy-do! Now that the CIA has a real spymeister as its Director, maybe Microsoft has to make good at being a legal, US Monopoly, as sanctioned by Bush and friends. Reports at 14-day intervals make for easier analysis of snooping. Perhaps a kind of payback for the lackadaisical enforcement of the consent decree by DoJ? Besides, what kind of spin is this? "Microsoft said the phone-in feature is to check for updates and is a kind of safety feature in case Microsoft has to suddenly disable the program. The latter scenario would occur if the program, for example, started to report pirated versions of Windows XP on computers that had legitimate copies. No other information is passed on to Microsoft through this feature, the company said." There are already a number of false negatives, countered by MGADiag.exe. And not one report of MS disabling WGA remotely. -- Peace! Kurt Kirsch Self-anointed Moderator http://microscum.com "It'll soon shake your Windows And rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin'." |
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Microsoft Changes WGA Following Spyware Allegations
Gary wrote: Paranoid people should not use computers, credit cards, telephones, or store discount cards to name a few. What world you are living in? Business today and mercantilism are demanding more on-line activity using computers, credit card transactions, fax transmissions, and so forth. They should not become the instruments that induce paranoia or even irrational fears. But all it takes are devious minds to generate some real concerns of privacy. |
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Microsoft Changes WGA Following Spyware Allegations
Gary wrote:
Paranoid people should not use computers, credit cards, telephones, or store discount cards to name a few. LOL! It's not paranioa when your concerns are justified. WGA is of absolutely no use to me. Computers, credit cards, telephones, and store discount cards are of varying use to me. -- Peace! Kurt Kirsch Self-anointed Moderator http://microscum.com "It'll soon shake your Windows And rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin'." |
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Microsoft Changes WGA Following Spyware Allegations
If credit card companys monitor everything you purchase, Banks every
transaction you make, Telephone companys every call you make, Stores every purchase you make, etc, etc. Then what is it about WGA that is makeing you so paranoid? Or is just something you can stand on your soap box and rant about? "kurttrail" wrote in message ... Gary wrote: Paranoid people should not use computers, credit cards, telephones, or store discount cards to name a few. LOL! It's not paranioa when your concerns are justified. WGA is of absolutely no use to me. Computers, credit cards, telephones, and store discount cards are of varying use to me. -- Peace! Kurt Kirsch Self-anointed Moderator http://microscum.com "It'll soon shake your Windows And rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin'." |
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Microsoft Changes WGA Following Spyware Allegations
antioch wrote:
"John" wrote in message news:1A0jg.24102$%m5.7592@trnddc04... antioch wrote: "The Unknown P" ( ) wrote in message ... Oddly enough it's quite simple to stop the Genuine advantage from writing to memory at boot time as well as calling home when it does so. Both I've done without any negative affects what so ever, and it's simple. Done through my firewall program. TTFN. Do you go in and get updates or leave it blocked all the time???? Antioch If you decide to decline there are no updates. John That's what I thought - he cant want them then? Antioch One can always get the patches manually. |
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Microsoft Changes WGA Following Spyware Allegations
Gary wrote: If credit card companys monitor everything you purchase, Banks every transaction you make, Telephone companys every call you make, Stores every purchase you make, etc, etc. Then what is it about WGA that is makeing you so paranoid? Or is just something you can stand on your soap box and rant about? The concern is that the "spying" proclivities of WGA was foisted upon all unsuspecting and unexpecting most private users of Windows XP. Users working in businesses that had VLK versions of Windows XP were exempt from WGA but these users can expect their activities to be monitored. There is no reason for WGA to be reporting back to Microsoft on a daily basis (or even a 14-day basis). There is already an established database of all activations; re-activation taps back into it in any event and validates the PK if it is genuine. So, just what is the purpose of WGA? Why now and not 3 months ago or next September? Microsoft admits that WGA is a "pilot" program but does not offer an opt out for those who had "automatically" updated. These are some very serious concerns for the wary, not the paranoid. Those of us who live in the US enjoy great personal privacy and security. Many of us probably think that they should also continue unfettered. |
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Microsoft Changes WGA Following Spyware Allegations
Gary wrote: If credit card companys monitor everything you purchase, Banks every transaction you make, Telephone companys every call you make, Stores every purchase you make, etc, etc. Then what is it about WGA that is makeing you so paranoid? Or is just something you can stand on your soap box and rant about? And yes, almost forgot to add, that credit card companies, banks, telephone companies, etc., are regulated in what they can do with the information that has been collected. WGA and Microsoft are not, other than a single statement of privacy. And, also, just who are the "client" computers and what type of security exists within the "data farm" that holds all of the activation, validation and WGA data? Whom do you trust? Want to trust a company that surreptitiously innoculates an unremovable trojan into your computer? |
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Microsoft Changes WGA Following Spyware Allegations
Hi Rhoda
Got my firewall blocking it as well for the moment - getting same message etc. I have not crashed yet :-) Rgds Antioch "Rhonda Lea Kirk" wrote in message ... POP wrote: Tom Willett wrote: http://www.informationweek.com/inter...leID=188703441 If you want the real story, go to MS and read it there. According to MS... "Important You've hidden important updates You've asked us not to show you one or more high-priority updates but your computer might be at risk until they are installed. Restore them now" ...my computer is at risk because I won't let it reinstall WGA. Never, ever rely on the media for an accurate account of anything, not even quotes! Totally agreed. All media links are good for are to tell you what to look for at the horse's mouth (or whichever end). In this case, I do believe it's the other end. I could allow WGA to reinstall itself--it's already downloaded, but I disabled it, and no matter what, my firewall will not be letting it out--but I'm annoyed, and I don't see that Microsoft has addressed the overall intrusiveness issue. Until it does, no WGA for me, even if it really does mean buying a Mac or switching to Linux. rl -- Rhonda Lea Kirk Insisting on perfect safety is for people without the balls to live in the real world. Mary Shafer Iliff |
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Microsoft Changes WGA Following Spyware Allegations
Gary wrote:
If credit card companys monitor everything you purchase, They don't. They only monitor the purchases I used my credit card I have with them. I still use cash alot. Banks every transaction you make, No they don't. Telephone companys every call you make, I've used anonymous phone cards. Stores every purchase you make, Again, I still use cash. etc, etc. Then what is it about WGA that is makeing you so paranoid? I'm not paranoid about it. I don't NEED it for ANYTHING! It doesn't make my computer run faster, better, or more efficiently. In fact, it wastes my bandwith, adds more things that can go wrong with my OS, and is still beta code on top of all that! Or is just something you can stand on your soap box and rant about? Copy-protection is anti-consumer technology. No consumer NEEDS it. Period! -- Peace! Kurt Kirsch Self-anointed Moderator http://microscum.com "It'll soon shake your Windows And rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin'." |
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Microsoft Changes WGA Following Spyware Allegations
"Gary" wrote in message ... If credit card companys monitor everything you purchase, Banks every transaction you make, Telephone companys every call you make, Stores every purchase you make, etc, etc. Then what is it about WGA that is makeing you so paranoid? Or is just something you can stand on your soap box and rant about? I would have thought the answer to that was obvious - FREEDOM OF CHOICE - perhaps you don't use it, want it or need it. I do. Antioch |
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Microsoft Changes WGA Following Spyware Allegations
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:52:05 -0400, kurttrail wrote:
Tom Willett wrote: http://www.informationweek.com/inter...leID=188703441 LOL! Instead of phoning home every day, MS is changing it to every 14 days! Whoopy-do! With a summary of the past 2 weeks perhaps :-) Jon |
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