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  #1  
Old November 12th 18, 10:39 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
freebody
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How do I tell if a mail subfolder is local or on the provider's server
without going to the provider.

For
hotmail.com
gmail.com

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  #2  
Old November 12th 18, 10:45 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 11/12/18 4:39 PM, freebody wrote:
How do I tell if a mail subfolder is local or on the provider's server
without going to the provider.

For
Â*Â*Â*Â*hotmail.com
Â*Â*Â*Â*gmail.com

Interesting question, maybe folders under "local folders" are your
locally created folders and anything else is from gmail or hotmail?


  #3  
Old November 12th 18, 11:24 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Big Al
writes:
On 11/12/18 4:39 PM, freebody wrote:
How do I tell if a mail subfolder is local or on the provider's
server without going to the provider.
For
****hotmail.com
****gmail.com

Interesting question, maybe folders under "local folders" are your
locally created folders and anything else is from gmail or hotmail?


What are you using to access the email:
o the webmail interface (i. e. you're using a browser)?
o a mail client, collecting by POP?
o a mail client, collecting by IMAP?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

If you help someone when they're in trouble, they will remember you when
they're in trouble again.
  #4  
Old November 12th 18, 11:42 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Rene Lamontagne
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On 11/12/2018 4:24 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Big Al
writes:
On 11/12/18 4:39 PM, freebody wrote:
How do I tell if a mail subfolder is local or on the provider's
serverÂ* without going to the provider.
Â*For
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*hotmail.com
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*gmail.com

Interesting question, maybe folders under "local folders" are your
locally created folders and anything else is from gmail or hotmail?


What are you using to access the email:


What is the meaning of the letter o in front of the 3 next sentences?
Just curious.

o the webmail interface (i. e. you're using a browser)?
o a mail client, collecting by POP?
o a mail client, collecting by IMAP?


Rene


  #5  
Old November 12th 18, 11:45 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Rene Lamontagne
writes:
On 11/12/2018 4:24 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Big Al
writes:
On 11/12/18 4:39 PM, freebody wrote:
How do I tell if a mail subfolder is local or on the provider's
server* without going to the provider.
*For
*****hotmail.com
*****gmail.com

Interesting question, maybe folders under "local folders" are your
locally created folders and anything else is from gmail or hotmail?


What are you using to access the email:


What is the meaning of the letter o in front of the 3 next sentences?
Just curious.

o the webmail interface (i. e. you're using a browser)?
o a mail client, collecting by POP?
o a mail client, collecting by IMAP?


Rene


A common way of doing bullet points in text-only situations. (I could
have used 1. 2. 3., I suppose. Or ".", but IMO a lower-case O looks
better.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

The early worm gets the bird.
  #6  
Old November 12th 18, 11:54 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Rene Lamontagne
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On 11/12/2018 4:45 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Rene Lamontagne
writes:
On 11/12/2018 4:24 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Big Al
writes:
On 11/12/18 4:39 PM, freebody wrote:
How do I tell if a mail subfolder is local or on the provider's
serverÂ* without going to the provider.
Â*For
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*hotmail.com
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*gmail.com

Interesting question, maybe folders under "local folders" are your
locally created folders and anything else is from gmail or hotmail?


What are you using to access the email:


What is the meaning of the letter o in front of the 3 next sentences?
Just curious.

o the webmail interface (i. e. you're using a browser)?
o a mail client, collecting by POP?
o a mail client, collecting by IMAP?


Rene


A common way of doing bullet points in text-only situations. (I could
have used 1. 2. 3., I suppose. Or ".", but IMO a lower-case O looks
better.)


Thanks for the explanation, It completely eluded me.

Rene


  #7  
Old November 13th 18, 12:24 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mayayana
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"freebody" wrote

| How do I tell if a mail subfolder is local or on the provider's server
| without going to the provider.
|

If you use TBird for POP3 or IMAP then you're
downloading the email from the server. The folder
is local. You can find it in your App Data....

| For
| hotmail.com
| gmail.com
|
.... But in this case it's academic because freebie
webmail providers also keep a copy. Usually they
keep a copy even if you think you deleted it.

If you want to back it up, back up the App Data
folders. If you're worried about privacy, don't use
hotmail or gmail.


  #8  
Old November 13th 18, 01:02 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 22:45:12 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Rene Lamontagne
writes:
On 11/12/2018 4:24 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Big Al
writes:
On 11/12/18 4:39 PM, freebody wrote:
How do I tell if a mail subfolder is local or on the provider's
serverÂ* without going to the provider.
Â*For
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*hotmail.com
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*gmail.com

Interesting question, maybe folders under "local folders" are your
locally created folders and anything else is from gmail or hotmail?


What are you using to access the email:


What is the meaning of the letter o in front of the 3 next sentences?
Just curious.

o the webmail interface (i. e. you're using a browser)?
o a mail client, collecting by POP?
o a mail client, collecting by IMAP?


Rene

?

A common way of doing bullet points in text-only situations. (I could
have used 1. 2. 3., I suppose. Or ".", but IMO a lower-case O looks
better.)



I knew what you meant by the o, but I don't like the way it looks. I
think it's likely that some people would get confused by it, as Rene
did. I think 1. 2. 3. or "." would look better. And so would ° or · or
*

  #9  
Old November 13th 18, 02:12 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Ken Blake
writes:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 22:45:12 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Rene Lamontagne
writes:
On 11/12/2018 4:24 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Big Al
writes:
On 11/12/18 4:39 PM, freebody wrote:
How do I tell if a mail subfolder is local or on the provider's
server* without going to the provider.
*For
*****hotmail.com
*****gmail.com

Interesting question, maybe folders under "local folders" are your
locally created folders and anything else is from gmail or hotmail?


What are you using to access the email:

What is the meaning of the letter o in front of the 3 next sentences?
Just curious.

o the webmail interface (i. e. you're using a browser)?
o a mail client, collecting by POP?
o a mail client, collecting by IMAP?

Rene

?

A common way of doing bullet points in text-only situations. (I could
have used 1. 2. 3., I suppose. Or ".", but IMO a lower-case O looks
better.)



I knew what you meant by the o, but I don't like the way it looks. I


It's not ideal: it probably depends on the font being used. In the one I
generally use (some variety of Courier!), I think it looks reasonable.

think it's likely that some people would get confused by it, as Rene
did. I think 1. 2. 3. or "." would look better. And so would ° or · or
*

Except that of those, only * is plain text. In most cases these days,
the others will indeed pass through unchanged, but a small number of
people will see them as different characters, or even a string like =A9
or something like that.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Anything you add for security will slow the computer but it shouldn't be
significant or prolonged. Security software is to protect the computer, not
the primary use of the computer.
- VanguardLH in alt.windows7.general, 2018-1-28
  #10  
Old November 13th 18, 02:17 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Mayayana
writes:
"freebody" wrote

| How do I tell if a mail subfolder is local or on the provider's server
| without going to the provider.
|

If you use TBird for POP3 or IMAP then you're
downloading the email from the server. The folder
is local. You can find it in your App Data....


AIUI, if you're using IMAP, it's also on the server. (I thought one of
the alleged points of IMAP was that folders are sort of "synced" between
your machine[s] and the server.)
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Anything you add for security will slow the computer but it shouldn't be
significant or prolonged. Security software is to protect the computer, not
the primary use of the computer.
- VanguardLH in alt.windows7.general, 2018-1-28
  #11  
Old November 13th 18, 03:22 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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imap when available.

Did anybody answer my question ?

How do I tell if a subfolder is just on Thunderbird or at my provider so
if go to a vacation PC will I see the subfolder ???


Confused !

  #12  
Old November 13th 18, 03:44 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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"FREBODY" wrote

| imap when available.
|
| Did anybody answer my question ?
|
| How do I tell if a subfolder is just on Thunderbird or at my provider so
| if go to a vacation PC will I see the subfolder ???
|

You'd do better if you ask a clear question.
First you just wanted to know whether TBird mail
was local *or* on the server. If you have it set
up as POP3 it will delete the server version when
you download the email. If you use IMAP or webmail
it won't.

To see what you have set up, click on the account
name and then select the option to see the settings
for that account.

But if you go to another computer with TBird you'll
need to set up your email account before you can
get your email. You might be better off using webmail
while you're away, unless you know about how to
set up accounts, ports, etc in TBird.


  #13  
Old November 13th 18, 03:46 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mayayana
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote

|
| If you use TBird for POP3 or IMAP then you're
| downloading the email from the server. The folder
| is local. You can find it in your App Data....
|
| AIUI, if you're using IMAP, it's also on the server. (I thought one of
| the alleged points of IMAP was that folders are sort of "synced" between
| your machine[s] and the server.)

I didn't mean to contradict that. From his post
I couldn't tell what he wanted to know or why,
so I was just trying to answer whatever he *might*
be asking, figuring that maybe he was interested in
backing up his email but didn't know where it was.


  #14  
Old November 13th 18, 04:06 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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"Wolf K" wrote

| If you have it set
| up as POP3 it will delete the server version when
| you download the email.
|
| Only of you set it that way.
|

Woops. I think you're right. But isn't that the default?
I've never used it any other way because I don't want
email left on the server. That used to be the only
way people did it because servers had storage limits.
TBird has a setting to leave email on the server and
optionally to set a deletion time, but I think those
options are not set by default.


  #15  
Old November 13th 18, 04:11 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Char Jackson
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 21:49:05 -0500, Wolf K wrote:

On 2018-11-12 21:44, Mayayana wrote:
"FREBODY" wrote

| imap when available.
|
| Did anybody answer my question ?
|
| How do I tell if a subfolder is just on Thunderbird or at my provider so
| if go to a vacation PC will I see the subfolder ???
|

You'd do better if you ask a clear question.
First you just wanted to know whether TBird mail
was local *or* on the server. If you have it set
up as POP3 it will delete the server version when
you download the email.


Only of you set it that way.

[...]


Since 'delete after retrieval' is the default behavior with POP3, it's
not something you have to set. You'd only have to look for that setting
and change it if you wanted to leave a copy of each email on the server
after you retrieve it.

--

Char Jackson
 




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