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RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?
On 11/19/2018 7:37 PM, Paul wrote:
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-m...ive-windows-10 "Although relocating the user's default folders one by one means extra steps, we do not recommend moving the main account folder === as it may cause unexpected problems." This implies though, that there is a way to do that. I can see an option in lusrmgr.msc labeled "profile path" but the interface doesn't populate it with the current value. Which makes it difficult to verify if that's what the purpose is (move user entire folder, not just components, blowing up the ability to update). Paul Microsoft has been making this increasingly difficult over the versions of Windows. What used to work in Windows 7 is going to blow up Windows 10 now. Never mind that what used to work in Windows 95 is completely unthinkable now. Yousuf Khan |
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RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?
Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 11/18/2018 2:08 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote: Just installed an AMD RX 480 graphics card into my system (replacing the previous GTX 750 Ti). After installation, I keep getting a message, "Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)". I've looked up the code #43 and there doesn't really seem to be a solution, nobody seems to know how to fix. I installed the latest Adrenalin drivers 18.11.1. When that didn't work, I went back to the previous version 18.9.3. I've also used the DDU utilitiy to completely remove the driver remnants, but it didn't work any better. So I reinstalled the 750 Ti again, and reinstalled the Nvidia drivers, and it's working like normal before. Even the Sleep and Hibernate came back. So it looks like Nvidia's drivers are causing the issues, it's gotten itself intertwined into the power management in some way. It's equally plausible that it's the AMD drivers - in fact I'd suspect them over nvidia. Try removing the nvidia drivers and make sure the 750ti is running only with the windows stock driver. Does the PC behave normally? If so swap the 750ti for the AMD card. Check again. If all still good then install the AMD drivers. That should give you a good framework for finding the source of your problem. |
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RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?
On 11/20/2018 2:31 PM, Chris wrote:
It's equally plausible that it's the AMD drivers - in fact I'd suspect them over nvidia. Try removing the nvidia drivers and make sure the 750ti is running only with the windows stock driver. Does the PC behave normally? If so swap the 750ti for the AMD card. Check again. If all still good then install the AMD drivers. That should give you a good framework for finding the source of your problem. Or it could be the card itself. These RX 480's were very popular as Cryptominers. The Crypto community came up with even a few custom BIOSes to keep these cards operating at peak efficiency and prevent the system from going to sleep. I wonder if my lack of sleep or hibernate capability when this card is installed is related to that? Today, I carved out a separate little Windows 10 boot partition on one of my data HDD's. Then I tried to install the AMD drivers into the new environment, and the same error 43 occurred! So the same problem occurred in two totally separate installations of Windows 10. I'm going to try one more thing, which is to try to install the card into a completely separate machine, just in case there is an incompatibility with my hardware, and this will rule out that possibility. Yousuf Khan |
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RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?
On 2018-11-21 2:31 a.m., Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 11/20/2018 2:31 PM, Chris wrote: It's equally plausible that it's the AMD drivers - in fact I'd suspect them over nvidia. Try removing the nvidia drivers and make sure the 750ti is running only with the windows stock driver. Does the PC behave normally? If so swap the 750ti for the AMD card. Check again. If all still good then install the AMD drivers. That should give you a good framework for finding the source of your problem. Or it could be the card itself. These RX 480's were very popular as Cryptominers. The Crypto community came up with even a few custom BIOSes to keep these cards operating at peak efficiency and prevent the system from going to sleep. I wonder if my lack of sleep or hibernate capability when this card is installed is related to that? Today, I carved out a separate little Windows 10 boot partition on one of my data HDD's. Then I tried to install the AMD drivers into the new environment, and the same error 43 occurred! So the same problem occurred in two totally separate installations of Windows 10. I'm going to try one more thing, which is to try to install the card into a completely separate machine, just in case there is an incompatibility with my hardware, and this will rule out that possibility. I don't recall seeing it much anymore but I know that old motherboards sometimes had issues with specific ISA, PCI and AGP slots and users had to use the other one if it was present. I'm still leaning toward a hardware failure since you got the same error in a clean environment and I have to wonder why you're still wasting your time trying to get it to work for. -- SilverSlimer Minds: @silverslimer |
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RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?
SilverSlimer wrote:
On 2018-11-21 2:31 a.m., Yousuf Khan wrote: On 11/20/2018 2:31 PM, Chris wrote: It's equally plausible that it's the AMD drivers - in fact I'd suspect them over nvidia. Try removing the nvidia drivers and make sure the 750ti is running only with the windows stock driver. Does the PC behave normally? If so swap the 750ti for the AMD card. Check again. If all still good then install the AMD drivers. That should give you a good framework for finding the source of your problem. Or it could be the card itself. These RX 480's were very popular as Cryptominers. The Crypto community came up with even a few custom BIOSes to keep these cards operating at peak efficiency and prevent the system from going to sleep. I wonder if my lack of sleep or hibernate capability when this card is installed is related to that? Today, I carved out a separate little Windows 10 boot partition on one of my data HDD's. Then I tried to install the AMD drivers into the new environment, and the same error 43 occurred! So the same problem occurred in two totally separate installations of Windows 10. I'm going to try one more thing, which is to try to install the card into a completely separate machine, just in case there is an incompatibility with my hardware, and this will rule out that possibility. I don't recall seeing it much anymore but I know that old motherboards sometimes had issues with specific ISA, PCI and AGP slots and users had to use the other one if it was present. I'm still leaning toward a hardware failure since you got the same error in a clean environment and I have to wonder why you're still wasting your time trying to get it to work for. You just have to look in the right place :-/ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1921225.0 "You need to use AMD Pixel Clock Patcher tool Download from here - https://www.monitortests.com/forum/T...-Clock-Patcher Run it and reboot. It modifies the drivers to allow running of non-signed custom BIOS which sounds like the problem you are having. " Think like a miner. Look to mining threads. With a used card, you have to expect surprises. Paul |
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RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?
On 11/21/2018 11:04 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
I don't recall seeing it much anymore but I know that old motherboards sometimes had issues with specific ISA, PCI and AGP slots and users had to use the other one if it was present. I'm still leaning toward a hardware failure since you got the same error in a clean environment and I have to wonder why you're still wasting your time trying to get it to work for. Well obviously because I need to show that I've tried everything possible to get it to work, before I ask for a refund. Yousuf Khan |
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RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?
On 11/21/2018 11:25 AM, Paul wrote:
You just have to look in the right place :-/ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1921225.0 "You need to use AMD Pixel Clock Patcher tool Download from here - https://www.monitortests.com/forum/T...-Clock-Patcher Run it and reboot. It modifies the drivers to allow running of non-signed custom BIOS which sounds like the problem you are having. " Think like a miner. Look to mining threads. With a used card, you have to expect surprises. Paul How do you know that this is for mining? All they seem to be talking about is how to overclock the monitor refresh rates here. Yousuf Khan |
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RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?
Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 11/21/2018 11:25 AM, Paul wrote: You just have to look in the right place :-/ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1921225.0 "You need to use AMD Pixel Clock Patcher tool Download from here - https://www.monitortests.com/forum/T...-Clock-Patcher Run it and reboot. It modifies the drivers to allow running of non-signed custom BIOS which sounds like the problem you are having. " Think like a miner. Look to mining threads. With a used card, you have to expect surprises. Paul How do you know that this is for mining? All they seem to be talking about is how to overclock the monitor refresh rates here. Yousuf Khan Using your clean install experimental disk, give it a try. Maybe if you boot a Linux distro, it will comment about the state of the video BIOS. I don't know what's "signed" in this case. The video card BIOS, if they were standard, I could see something like this being possible. But how close to a reference design do they stay on these things ? In the old days, the BIOS had memory settings (CAS or whatever). And the BIOS had to match the hardware (memory type) for a custom VESA BIOS to work. I flashed a video card once, and used a second PCI video card so I could observe the screen while I worked. And the BIOS I used for the video card, came from a database full of scavenged video BIOS. I was converting a Macintosh video card to a PC video card (as Apple didn't have a driver update for it, so I moved the card to a PC with better support). I got another five years out of the card after that. One of the differences back then, is the Apple card had a 128KB ROM and the PC version had a 64KB ROM. Which makes it possible to go from Apple to PC, but not PC to Apple. A soldering iron would be needed for PC to Apple, to change ROMs. Paul |
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RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?
On 11/21/2018 12:01 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 11/21/2018 11:04 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: I don't recall seeing it much anymore but I know that old motherboards sometimes had issues with specific ISA, PCI and AGP slots and users had to use the other one if it was present. I'm still leaning toward a hardware failure since you got the same error in a clean environment and I have to wonder why you're still wasting your time trying to get it to work for. Well obviously because I need to show that I've tried everything possible to get it to work, before I ask for a refund. Yousuf Khan So I've now tried it on a friends completely different system, and the exact same problem occurred. So now it's beyond doubt that the card is defective. Yousuf Khan |
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RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?
Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 11/21/2018 12:01 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote: On 11/21/2018 11:04 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: I don't recall seeing it much anymore but I know that old motherboards sometimes had issues with specific ISA, PCI and AGP slots and users had to use the other one if it was present. I'm still leaning toward a hardware failure since you got the same error in a clean environment and I have to wonder why you're still wasting your time trying to get it to work for. Well obviously because I need to show that I've tried everything possible to get it to work, before I ask for a refund. Yousuf Khan So I've now tried it on a friends completely different system, and the exact same problem occurred. So now it's beyond doubt that the card is defective. Yousuf Khan It's not defective. It's been modified. The seller should have "unmodified" it before shipping it, and put back the original BIOS image. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1786833.0 " Modified BIOS 480 Code 43 February 11, 2017, 10:34:57 PM Use drivers 16.11.5 " Paul |
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RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?
On 11/22/2018 11:12 PM, Paul wrote:
It's not defective. It's been modified. The seller should have "unmodified" it before shipping it, and put back the original BIOS image. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1786833.0 " Modified BIOS 480 Code 43 February 11, 2017, 10:34:57 PM Use drivers 16.11.5 " Paul Yeah, well whatever, it's defective until the proper BIOS is put back on it. I've been in contact with the seller, threatening to go into dispute on Ebay, he's not really denying that he had modified the BIOS, and is offering to send over the original BIOS soon. Yousuf Khan |
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RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?
Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 11/22/2018 11:12 PM, Paul wrote: It's not defective. It's been modified. The seller should have "unmodified" it before shipping it, and put back the original BIOS image. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1786833.0 " Modified BIOS 480 Code 43 February 11, 2017, 10:34:57 PM Use drivers 16.11.5 " Paul Yeah, well whatever, it's defective until the proper BIOS is put back on it. I've been in contact with the seller, threatening to go into dispute on Ebay, he's not really denying that he had modified the BIOS, and is offering to send over the original BIOS soon. Yousuf Khan If you're going to flash it, it helps to have two video cards in your hands, and a slot to fit the second one while flashing. I have a FX5200 PCI card for this purpose. That's PCI, not PCI Express. It's a **** card for any other purpose, but it was perfect for when I had a card to flash. (Target card was AGP, second card was PCI and monitor was connected to PCI card.) In an emergency, you could consider getting a USB3 to VGA or USB3 to HDMI adapter, and using that during the emergency flash, but then you won't have any access to BIOS screens. Those adapters are only available while the OS is operational. Unfortunately, when it comes to video cards, we now live in an era of "coincidental expenses", where you need this or that dongle to get things done. And suddenly a thing you thought was a bargain, isn't. For example, at one time, a $40 video card was available with VGA connector. Today, Nvidia wants you to spend $150, then buy a DisplayPort to VGA active converter for $20-$60 to finish the job. And if you insisted on digging up a rubbish card, like my HD5450-type card, there'd be no driver official driver support (use whatever drivers exist). Paul |
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RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?
On 11/23/2018 11:53 AM, Paul wrote:
Yousuf Khan wrote: Yeah, well whatever, it's defective until the proper BIOS is put back on it. I've been in contact with the seller, threatening to go into dispute on Ebay, he's not really denying that he had modified the BIOS, and is offering to send over the original BIOS soon. Yousuf Khan If you're going to flash it, it helps to have two video cards in your hands, and a slot to fit the second one while flashing. Well, the seller and I have gone into dispute now. It may end up turning out that I may keep this card for free. I have talked to MSI, and they said they will simply take the card back under RMA and replace it with a card with a proper BIOS on it. Yousuf Khan |
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