A Windows XP help forum. PCbanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » PCbanter forum » Windows 10 » Windows 10 Help Forum
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?



 
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #16  
Old November 20th 18, 07:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,447
Default RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?

On 11/19/2018 7:37 PM, Paul wrote:
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-m...ive-windows-10


"Although relocating the user's default folders one by one means
extra steps, we do not recommend moving the main account folder ===
as it may cause unexpected problems."

This implies though, that there is a way to do that. I
can see an option in lusrmgr.msc labeled "profile path"
but the interface doesn't populate it with the
current value. Which makes it difficult to verify if
that's what the purpose is (move user entire folder,
not just components, blowing up the ability to update).

Paul


Microsoft has been making this increasingly difficult over the versions
of Windows. What used to work in Windows 7 is going to blow up Windows
10 now. Never mind that what used to work in Windows 95 is completely
unthinkable now.

Yousuf Khan
Ads
  #17  
Old November 20th 18, 08:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Chris
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 832
Default RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?

Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 11/18/2018 2:08 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Just installed an AMD RX 480 graphics card into my system (replacing the
previous GTX 750 Ti). After installation, I keep getting a message,
"Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code
43)".

I've looked up the code #43 and there doesn't really seem to be a
solution, nobody seems to know how to fix.

I installed the latest Adrenalin drivers 18.11.1. When that didn't work,
I went back to the previous version 18.9.3. I've also used the DDU
utilitiy to completely remove the driver remnants, but it didn't work
any better.


So I reinstalled the 750 Ti again, and reinstalled the Nvidia drivers,
and it's working like normal before. Even the Sleep and Hibernate came
back. So it looks like Nvidia's drivers are causing the issues, it's
gotten itself intertwined into the power management in some way.


It's equally plausible that it's the AMD drivers - in fact I'd suspect them
over nvidia.

Try removing the nvidia drivers and make sure the 750ti is running only
with the windows stock driver. Does the PC behave normally? If so swap the
750ti for the AMD card. Check again. If all still good then install the AMD
drivers. That should give you a good framework for finding the source of
your problem.

  #18  
Old November 21st 18, 08:31 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,447
Default RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?

On 11/20/2018 2:31 PM, Chris wrote:
It's equally plausible that it's the AMD drivers - in fact I'd suspect them
over nvidia.

Try removing the nvidia drivers and make sure the 750ti is running only
with the windows stock driver. Does the PC behave normally? If so swap the
750ti for the AMD card. Check again. If all still good then install the AMD
drivers. That should give you a good framework for finding the source of
your problem.


Or it could be the card itself. These RX 480's were very popular as
Cryptominers. The Crypto community came up with even a few custom BIOSes
to keep these cards operating at peak efficiency and prevent the system
from going to sleep. I wonder if my lack of sleep or hibernate
capability when this card is installed is related to that?

Today, I carved out a separate little Windows 10 boot partition on one
of my data HDD's. Then I tried to install the AMD drivers into the new
environment, and the same error 43 occurred! So the same problem
occurred in two totally separate installations of Windows 10. I'm going
to try one more thing, which is to try to install the card into a
completely separate machine, just in case there is an incompatibility
with my hardware, and this will rule out that possibility.

Yousuf Khan
  #19  
Old November 21st 18, 05:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
SilverSlimer[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 120
Default RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?

On 2018-11-21 2:31 a.m., Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 11/20/2018 2:31 PM, Chris wrote:
It's equally plausible that it's the AMD drivers - in fact I'd suspect
them
over nvidia.

Try removing the nvidia drivers and make sure the 750ti is running only
with the windows stock driver. Does the PC behave normally? If so swap
the
750ti for the AMD card. Check again. If all still good then install
the AMD
drivers. That should give you a good framework for finding the source of
your problem.


Or it could be the card itself. These RX 480's were very popular as
Cryptominers. The Crypto community came up with even a few custom BIOSes
to keep these cards operating at peak efficiency and prevent the system
from going to sleep. I wonder if my lack of sleep or hibernate
capability when this card is installed is related to that?

Today, I carved out a separate little Windows 10 boot partition on one
of my data HDD's. Then I tried to install the AMD drivers into the new
environment, and the same error 43 occurred! So the same problem
occurred in two totally separate installations of Windows 10. I'm going
to try one more thing, which is to try to install the card into a
completely separate machine, just in case there is an incompatibility
with my hardware, and this will rule out that possibility.


I don't recall seeing it much anymore but I know that old motherboards
sometimes had issues with specific ISA, PCI and AGP slots and users had
to use the other one if it was present. I'm still leaning toward a
hardware failure since you got the same error in a clean environment and
I have to wonder why you're still wasting your time trying to get it to
work for.


--
SilverSlimer
Minds: @silverslimer
  #20  
Old November 21st 18, 05:25 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 11,873
Default RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?

SilverSlimer wrote:
On 2018-11-21 2:31 a.m., Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 11/20/2018 2:31 PM, Chris wrote:
It's equally plausible that it's the AMD drivers - in fact I'd
suspect them
over nvidia.

Try removing the nvidia drivers and make sure the 750ti is running only
with the windows stock driver. Does the PC behave normally? If so
swap the
750ti for the AMD card. Check again. If all still good then install
the AMD
drivers. That should give you a good framework for finding the source of
your problem.


Or it could be the card itself. These RX 480's were very popular as
Cryptominers. The Crypto community came up with even a few custom
BIOSes to keep these cards operating at peak efficiency and prevent
the system from going to sleep. I wonder if my lack of sleep or
hibernate capability when this card is installed is related to that?

Today, I carved out a separate little Windows 10 boot partition on one
of my data HDD's. Then I tried to install the AMD drivers into the new
environment, and the same error 43 occurred! So the same problem
occurred in two totally separate installations of Windows 10. I'm
going to try one more thing, which is to try to install the card into
a completely separate machine, just in case there is an
incompatibility with my hardware, and this will rule out that
possibility.


I don't recall seeing it much anymore but I know that old motherboards
sometimes had issues with specific ISA, PCI and AGP slots and users had
to use the other one if it was present. I'm still leaning toward a
hardware failure since you got the same error in a clean environment and
I have to wonder why you're still wasting your time trying to get it to
work for.


You just have to look in the right place :-/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1921225.0

"You need to use AMD Pixel Clock Patcher tool

Download from here - https://www.monitortests.com/forum/T...-Clock-Patcher

Run it and reboot.

It modifies the drivers to allow running of non-signed
custom BIOS which sounds like the problem you are having.
"

Think like a miner. Look to mining threads. With a
used card, you have to expect surprises.

Paul
  #21  
Old November 21st 18, 06:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,447
Default RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?

On 11/21/2018 11:04 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
I don't recall seeing it much anymore but I know that old motherboards
sometimes had issues with specific ISA, PCI and AGP slots and users had
to use the other one if it was present. I'm still leaning toward a
hardware failure since you got the same error in a clean environment and
I have to wonder why you're still wasting your time trying to get it to
work for.


Well obviously because I need to show that I've tried everything
possible to get it to work, before I ask for a refund.

Yousuf Khan
  #22  
Old November 21st 18, 06:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,447
Default RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?

On 11/21/2018 11:25 AM, Paul wrote:
You just have to look in the right place :-/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1921225.0

"You need to use AMD Pixel Clock Patcher tool

Download from here -
https://www.monitortests.com/forum/T...-Clock-Patcher

Run it and reboot.

It modifies the drivers to allow running of non-signed
custom BIOS which sounds like the problem you are having.
"

Think like a miner. Look to mining threads. With a
used card, you have to expect surprises.

Paul


How do you know that this is for mining? All they seem to be talking
about is how to overclock the monitor refresh rates here.

Yousuf Khan
  #23  
Old November 21st 18, 06:29 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 11,873
Default RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?

Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 11/21/2018 11:25 AM, Paul wrote:
You just have to look in the right place :-/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1921225.0

"You need to use AMD Pixel Clock Patcher tool

Download from here -
https://www.monitortests.com/forum/T...-Clock-Patcher

Run it and reboot.

It modifies the drivers to allow running of non-signed
custom BIOS which sounds like the problem you are having.
"

Think like a miner. Look to mining threads. With a
used card, you have to expect surprises.

Paul


How do you know that this is for mining? All they seem to be talking
about is how to overclock the monitor refresh rates here.

Yousuf Khan


Using your clean install experimental disk, give it a try.

Maybe if you boot a Linux distro, it will comment about the
state of the video BIOS.

I don't know what's "signed" in this case. The video card
BIOS, if they were standard, I could see something like this being
possible. But how close to a reference design do they stay
on these things ? In the old days, the BIOS had memory settings
(CAS or whatever). And the BIOS had to match the hardware (memory
type) for a custom VESA BIOS to work.

I flashed a video card once, and used a second PCI video card
so I could observe the screen while I worked. And the BIOS
I used for the video card, came from a database full of scavenged
video BIOS. I was converting a Macintosh video card to a PC
video card (as Apple didn't have a driver update for it,
so I moved the card to a PC with better support). I got another
five years out of the card after that. One of the differences
back then, is the Apple card had a 128KB ROM and the PC version
had a 64KB ROM. Which makes it possible to go from Apple to PC,
but not PC to Apple. A soldering iron would be needed for PC to Apple,
to change ROMs.

Paul
  #24  
Old November 23rd 18, 05:03 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,447
Default RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?

On 11/21/2018 12:01 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 11/21/2018 11:04 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
I don't recall seeing it much anymore but I know that old motherboards
sometimes had issues with specific ISA, PCI and AGP slots and users
had to use the other one if it was present. I'm still leaning toward a
hardware failure since you got the same error in a clean environment
and I have to wonder why you're still wasting your time trying to get
it to work for.


Well obviously because I need to show that I've tried everything
possible to get it to work, before I ask for a refund.

Yousuf Khan


So I've now tried it on a friends completely different system, and the
exact same problem occurred. So now it's beyond doubt that the card is
defective.

Yousuf Khan
  #25  
Old November 23rd 18, 05:12 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 11,873
Default RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?

Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 11/21/2018 12:01 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 11/21/2018 11:04 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
I don't recall seeing it much anymore but I know that old
motherboards sometimes had issues with specific ISA, PCI and AGP
slots and users had to use the other one if it was present. I'm still
leaning toward a hardware failure since you got the same error in a
clean environment and I have to wonder why you're still wasting your
time trying to get it to work for.


Well obviously because I need to show that I've tried everything
possible to get it to work, before I ask for a refund.

Yousuf Khan


So I've now tried it on a friends completely different system, and the
exact same problem occurred. So now it's beyond doubt that the card is
defective.

Yousuf Khan


It's not defective. It's been modified.

The seller should have "unmodified" it before shipping it,
and put back the original BIOS image.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1786833.0

" Modified BIOS 480 Code 43
February 11, 2017, 10:34:57 PM

Use drivers 16.11.5
"

Paul
  #26  
Old November 23rd 18, 03:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,447
Default RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?

On 11/22/2018 11:12 PM, Paul wrote:
It's not defective. It's been modified.

The seller should have "unmodified" it before shipping it,
and put back the original BIOS image.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1786833.0

" Modified BIOS 480 Code 43
February 11, 2017, 10:34:57 PM

Use drivers 16.11.5
"

Paul


Yeah, well whatever, it's defective until the proper BIOS is put back on
it. I've been in contact with the seller, threatening to go into dispute
on Ebay, he's not really denying that he had modified the BIOS, and is
offering to send over the original BIOS soon.

Yousuf Khan
  #27  
Old November 23rd 18, 05:53 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 11,873
Default RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?

Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 11/22/2018 11:12 PM, Paul wrote:
It's not defective. It's been modified.

The seller should have "unmodified" it before shipping it,
and put back the original BIOS image.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1786833.0

" Modified BIOS 480 Code 43
February 11, 2017, 10:34:57 PM

Use drivers 16.11.5
"

Paul


Yeah, well whatever, it's defective until the proper BIOS is put back on
it. I've been in contact with the seller, threatening to go into dispute
on Ebay, he's not really denying that he had modified the BIOS, and is
offering to send over the original BIOS soon.

Yousuf Khan


If you're going to flash it, it helps to have
two video cards in your hands, and a slot
to fit the second one while flashing.

I have a FX5200 PCI card for this purpose.
That's PCI, not PCI Express. It's a **** card
for any other purpose, but it was perfect for
when I had a card to flash. (Target card was AGP,
second card was PCI and monitor was connected to
PCI card.)

In an emergency, you could consider getting a USB3
to VGA or USB3 to HDMI adapter, and using that during
the emergency flash, but then you won't have any access
to BIOS screens. Those adapters are only available
while the OS is operational.

Unfortunately, when it comes to video cards, we now
live in an era of "coincidental expenses", where
you need this or that dongle to get things done.
And suddenly a thing you thought was a bargain,
isn't. For example, at one time, a $40 video card
was available with VGA connector. Today, Nvidia
wants you to spend $150, then buy a DisplayPort to
VGA active converter for $20-$60 to finish the job.
And if you insisted on digging up a rubbish card,
like my HD5450-type card, there'd be no driver
official driver support (use whatever drivers
exist).

Paul
  #28  
Old December 3rd 18, 12:15 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,447
Default RX 480 gives Error 43 upon installation?

On 11/23/2018 11:53 AM, Paul wrote:
Yousuf Khan wrote:
Yeah, well whatever, it's defective until the proper BIOS is put back
on it. I've been in contact with the seller, threatening to go into
dispute on Ebay, he's not really denying that he had modified the
BIOS, and is offering to send over the original BIOS soon.

Yousuf Khan


If you're going to flash it, it helps to have
two video cards in your hands, and a slot
to fit the second one while flashing.


Well, the seller and I have gone into dispute now. It may end up turning
out that I may keep this card for free. I have talked to MSI, and they
said they will simply take the card back under RMA and replace it with a
card with a proper BIOS on it.

Yousuf Khan
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off






All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:00 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 PCbanter.
The comments are property of their posters.