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registry cleaner and back up
Linda W wrote:
Why did I purchase Registry Cleaner last week and tonight when I typed in www.windows.com I was hit with Registry Smart that found over 1000 errors on my computer after Registry Cleaner had found errors and fixes them after I paid them the $39.95 fee last week? Now Registry Smart wants me to pay them to correct these other 1000 errors. Is all of this a scam? Yes, registry cleaners are all a scam. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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Registry Cleaner
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
CCleaner is very helpful in this respect. No, it is not. It''s not better than any of the other snake oil scams available. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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Registry Cleaner
Nonsense.
Chambers is just blustering and burbling. CCleaner works beautifully as a Registry Cleaner. http://www.ccleaner.com/ Try it... DSH "Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ... D. Spencer Hines wrote: CCleaner is very helpful in this respect. No, it is not. It''s [sic] not better than any of the other snake oil scams available. -- Bruce Chambers |
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Registry Cleaner
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
Nonsense. Chambers is just blustering and burbling. CCleaner works beautifully as a Registry Cleaner. *NO* registry cleaner works "beautifully," as *NONE* of them do anything in the least bit useful or beneficial. And CCLeaner, in particular, products nothing but false positives, identifying orphaned entries where none exist. I've tested it. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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Registry Cleaner
Evidence?
D. Spencer Hines wrote: CCleaner is very helpful in this respect. DSH "Edward W. Thompson" wrote in message ... "Linda W" Linda wrote in message ... Why did I purchase Registry Cleaner last week and tonight when I typed in www.windows.com I was hit with Registry Smart that found over 1000 errors on my computer after Registry Cleaner had found errors and fixes them after I paid them the $39.95 fee last week? Now Registry Smart wants me to pay them to correct these other 1000 errors. Is all of this a scam? snip Yes, it is a scam. Firstly and most importantly, if you have 'errors' in your Registry you will have problems running the OS and/or program. If you do have these problems Registry Cleaners will not help. What these cleaners term as errors are not errors they are simply entries in the Registry that the 'Cleaners' determine are redundant. Contrary to what many may tell you, these redundant entries do absolutely no harm and have no effect on the operation of the OS or programs. They may inflate the size of the Registry but as disk space is the least of problems with modern machines, this is of no consequence. Further, occasionally Registry Cleaners will remove or advise removal of Registry entries that are required for the running of installed programs and if acted upon will require you to reinstall the program. There are many who will tell you that Registry Cleaners will/may damage the OS. So far no one has yet given any evidence of this other than hearsay but the overall advice of these programs have the potential of doing harm without doing any good is valid. |
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Registry Cleaner
I have to say that I recommend CCleaner and use I regularly myself. While I
agree with Bruce Chambers sentiments regarding CCleaner checking what CCleaner is actually removing, in the few years I've been using CCleaner I can't say that I've actually been in a position were CCleaner has located a large amount of 'problems' that needed fixing, even on brand new machine. I purchased a new machine two weeks ago, installed and run CCleaner and it only found 2 problems. Speed increase is probably relative. It is amazing how, after using a registry cleaner one automatically thinks, WoW that certainly improved things when, in reality it has done nothing of the sort. I certainly haven't seen any increase in speed - well that has been noticeable, anyway. One thing I have noticed, with Windows Vista Ultimate at any rate is that when CCleaner is doing general housekeeping, i.e., removing temporary internet files, history etc I am actually seeing a ghost image of Windows Vista's Disk Cleanup Tool, so unless my machine happens to be a fluke I am beginning to ask myself who I actually cleaning what CCleaner or Vista Disk Cleanup? -- -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows - Shell/User Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "Daave" wrote in message ... No bait. You're the one who made the claim. I've used Ccleaner and have only found the clearing of temp files to be beneficial. If you've done more extensive testing, good for you. But bear in mind that is was YOU who made the claim in the first place! And I still find it interesting you're unwilling to back it up. Belief and knowledge are two different things... "D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message ... Right! He just wants someone else to do his work for him. DSH " db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com wrote in message news:%23duS% ... he is a sly one and was just baiting you. if he had such an open mind, he could download the program and test it himself. -- db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸. )))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º "D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message ... I don't give a rat's rear end whether you believe me or not. I'm not trying to sell anything. So, it's not worth my time and effort to post elaborate results of the tests I ran -- which will simply lead to a long thread of worthless back and forth caterwauling. I can use that time far better in other useful pursuits such as managing my stock portfolio, working on the car, writing a historical post or email or doing something nice for my wife -- not necessarily in that order. g I ran controlled tests on nine different machines with various configurations -- using the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner. Performance was improved on all of them -- fewer hangs and pauses, faster loading of applications, faster executions of commands and faster startups and shutdowns. No Glitches -- Removing Something That Should Not Have Been Removed -- No FUD. I have no experience of using other Registry Cleaners -- so I can't speak to them. I do, carefully, sometimes manually remove or make changes to the Registry. So, I'm not a barefoot empiricist. Your Mileage May Vary... So, Run Your Own Tests. Bonne Chance! DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas |
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Registry Cleaner
John Barnett MVP wrote:
I have to say that I recommend CCleaner and use I regularly myself. While I agree with Bruce Chambers sentiments regarding CCleaner checking what CCleaner is actually removing, in the few years I've been using CCleaner I can't say that I've actually been in a position were CCleaner has located a large amount of 'problems' that needed fixing, even on brand new machine. I purchased a new machine two weeks ago, installed and run CCleaner and it only found 2 problems. I tried the latest version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files. Speed increase is probably relative. It is amazing how, after using a registry cleaner one automatically thinks, WoW that certainly improved things when, in reality it has done nothing of the sort. I certainly haven't seen any increase in speed - well that has been noticeable, anyway. One thing I have noticed, with Windows Vista Ultimate at any rate is that when CCleaner is doing general housekeeping, i.e., removing temporary internet files, history etc I am actually seeing a ghost image of Windows Vista's Disk Cleanup Tool, so unless my machine happens to be a fluke I am beginning to ask myself who I actually cleaning what CCleaner or Vista Disk Cleanup? CCleaner's sole strength, and the only reason I use it, lies in its usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard drive. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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Registry Cleaner
Utter Nonsense.
CCleaner has worked beautifully for me for several years. I've cleaned out thousands of useless entries from my Registry. DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas "Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ... D. Spencer Hines wrote: Nonsense. Chambers is just blustering and burbling. CCleaner works beautifully as a Registry Cleaner. *NO* registry cleaner works "beautifully," as *NONE* of them do anything in the least bit useful or beneficial. And CCLeaner, in particular, products nothing but false positives, identifying orphaned entries where none exist. I've tested it. |
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Registry Cleaner
There you have it.
Even this MVP uses it. So do I. It's a very useful tool. DSH "John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... I have to say that I recommend CCleaner and use I [sic] regularly myself.... |
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Registry Cleaner
Are you able to show evidence that the deletion of useless registry
entries appreciably improves the performance of a PC? D. Spencer Hines wrote: Utter Nonsense. CCleaner has worked beautifully for me for several years. I've cleaned out thousands of useless entries from my Registry. DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas "Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ... D. Spencer Hines wrote: Nonsense. Chambers is just blustering and burbling. CCleaner works beautifully as a Registry Cleaner. *NO* registry cleaner works "beautifully," as *NONE* of them do anything in the least bit useful or beneficial. And CCLeaner, in particular, products nothing but false positives, identifying orphaned entries where none exist. I've tested it. |
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Registry Cleaner
It is nothing but trash taking up space on your system. It has NO benefits,
only potential problems. "D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message ... Utter Nonsense. CCleaner has worked beautifully for me for several years. I've cleaned out thousands of useless entries from my Registry. DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas "Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ... D. Spencer Hines wrote: Nonsense. Chambers is just blustering and burbling. CCleaner works beautifully as a Registry Cleaner. *NO* registry cleaner works "beautifully," as *NONE* of them do anything in the least bit useful or beneficial. And CCLeaner, in particular, products nothing but false positives, identifying orphaned entries where none exist. I've tested it. |
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Registry Cleaner
D. Spencer Hines wrote:
There you have it. Even this MVP uses it. And clearly stated that it did *NOT* provide any performance benefits.... So do I. It's a very useful tool. Useful, how, precisely? It doesn't do anything of any value. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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Registry Cleaner
My box runs faster and smoother after I use CCleaner, including both the
Registry Cleaner and Basic Cleaner, which does much more than just delete Temporary Internet Files, properly employed. DSH "Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ... D. Spencer Hines wrote: There you have it. Even this MVP uses it. And clearly stated that it did *NOT* provide any performance benefits.... So do I. It's a very useful tool. Useful, how, precisely? It doesn't do anything of any value. |
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Registry Cleaner
yes, DHS, I do use CCleaner and, as I have stated in my original post,
regularly recommend it but, unlike you, I haven't seen any speed increase through its use. Once again I have to quote Bruce Chambers in as much as "CCleaner's sole strength lies in its usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard drive." If there is any performance, and without testing it rigourously solely for the purpose of ascertaining any increase in performance I would have to say that any such claim to fame regarding current increase in performance, if indeed there is any, is negligible. -- -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows - Shell/User Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message ... There you have it. Even this MVP uses it. So do I. It's a very useful tool. DSH "John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... I have to say that I recommend CCleaner and use I [sic] regularly myself.... |
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