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  #301  
Old July 8th 17, 09:40 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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PF1E4jV6iSIb, Diesel wrote:


itunes: set itunes to automatically transcode your music on the
fly, from lossless or 320k mp3/aac to 128k for the ipod, because
you can't hear any difference while jogging with cars/trucks going
by. as above, connect ipod, sync. music transcoded on the fly, no
additional steps.


Why would I want to transcode what's already more than acceptable drm
free mp3? Seems like i'm wasting time going thru that step.


because there's no need for high bit rate audio on a portable player.
it's a waste of space, as i said.

it's much better to transcode to a lower bitrate and get more songs on
the device.

Especially when I can drag/drop or copy/paste. I can drop entire
albums in track order with a few clicks or a single command at
console. I don't have to 'initialize' my mp3 player either.


that's more work than is necessary.

And, it works the same way under *nix as it does Windows. Makes life
easy. No special software needed as it's treated as an external
drive.


and greatly limited in functionality.


itunes: subscribe to a podcast and set itunes to auto-sync new
episodes. connect ipod and the episodes you already listened to
are replaced with new ones which were downloaded when they were
published, entirely automatically, no user interaction. required.


RSS feeds do that for me, though. I don't need itunes for that.


no they don't.

The
podcasts I've seen are also available in trusty, good ol mp3, too.


nobody said they weren't mp3.

where did you get the idea they were in another format??



itunes: create a smart playlist of 250 of the most listened to
songs plus 50 of the least recently listened to songs and 25
totally random songs, to always have some new music cycled through
rather than listen to the same old stuff all the time. optionally
replace any songs that were skipped more than a certain amount
(which means you really don't want that song on the ipod), connect
ipod, sync. the play count, skip count and date/time last played
are all managed for you.


I don't need that either.


you might not, but many other people do.

My mp3 player keeps a little record that I
can change/delete at any time. If I let the song play, it gets a good
mark. if I tend to skip it, the mp3 player won't pick it often during
random playback. It 'learns' what I like based on what I have on it.

I don't have to sync it to anything either.


then it's useless.

And, if a friend wants a
copy of all of the music on it, or a single song, they can just plug
it into their device and copy the tune(s) over. No software required.


that's called piracy.

I can even copy non audio files over to it and treat it like a USB
stick, if I so desire. It knows it can't play them, it ignores
them but keeps them in memory for me to do whatever I want with the
non audio files.


so what? ipods can do that too.

itunes: share music to other computers, set top boxes and other
peripherals on the network (which do not have to be from apple).


I already do that, without itunes. Every single computer on this
network has read access to the share. Some computers are tied into
stereo systems, others are tied into large TV sets for movie
watching. Which is a seperate share. It's very organized. Watch,
listen, to whatever you like, whenever you like. Wanna copy it to
yours to take with you? You can do that too, no software required;
since NONE of my stuff is DRM.


who said anything about drm?

you really have *no* clue.

your way: not possible, other than file sharing to another
computer, which would require a suitable media player.


You must have no idea how a LAN works...


wrong on that too.

and knowing how a lan works has nothing to do with itunes or asset
managers in general.

what's clear is that you haven't any clue whatsoever about itunes and
many other topics.
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Old July 8th 17, 09:40 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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PF1E4jV6iSIb, Diesel wrote:

Only to the ignorant. Meanwhile those of us who have actually used
it have no problem with it because it works great. Go figure.


In a home based LAN setup, maybe. If you need more control, doesn't
seem like a good choice. I might not want computers in another dept
using my printer.


nothing prevents anyone from configuring access to the printer or
anything else.

as he said, ignorant.
  #303  
Old July 8th 17, 09:40 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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PF1E4jV6iSIb, Diesel wrote:


You don't need bonjour for the computer to discover devices on
LAN.

yes you do. that's the point of bonjour.

Er, I don't. My computers see each other and various other LAN
enabled devices just fine, without bonjour. Networking protocols
are funny like that. /sarcasm.


not without manual configuration, they don't.


That actually depends on the device and router settings. But, I won't
bore you with technical details.


wise move, because you'll show yourself to be a much bigger fool than
you already have.

and the crashes you claim are pure fabrication anyway. roughly
a *billion* people use itunes without issue. it's one of the
most popular apps on windows (source: microsoft).

With field experience, I have to disagree with you. I've seen
bonjour crash out; it's not always a pleasant experience.


bull****.
you're blaming bonjour without having investigated the cause,
which is almost certainly *not* bonjour.


Event viewer and memory dumps tend to tell the tale. Ever analyzed a
dump?


sure have. more than i can count. i've been writing software for years.

you're still wrong.

or, don't realize that they don't
infact have to have it?


people use itunes because they *want* to use itunes, not because
they *have* to use it, because of the numerous features and
benefits it provides. it empowers users to do things that are not
possible any other way.


Again, they may not be aware it's not required in some cases.


itunes is not required.

users *want* to use itunes for all sorts of reasons.


I personally refuse to buy ANY mp3/audio
player that demands I use a 'special' app to load it with
music/video, etc.


your loss.


I see no loss in that decision.


of course you don't, because you don't know anything beyond your
outdated methods, and since you use linux, you're *stuck* with them.

by doing so, you end up with fewer features, a lot more effort to
use whatever player you get and a significantly worse user
experience.


I disagree.


then you'd be wrong.

there's also no need for a usb port or a usb cable because modern
devices sync over wifi and even automatically if the user chooses,
or the user can use the cloud and have access to *everything*.


I *don't* want it to sync over wifi. I tend to keep my data local,
thanks.


what ever gave you the idea it wouldn't be local????

as you said in another post:

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PF1E4jV6iSIb, Diesel wrote:

You must have no idea how a LAN works...


not only do you not know how a lan works but you clearly do not know
how wifi works or how both can be configured.

The cloud is a cute buzzword for offsite storage. Of which
you have limited to no control over, depending on the situation.


it's more than a cute buzzword and a user can have as much control as
they want.
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Old July 9th 17, 01:14 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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On Sat, 8 Jul 2017 17:09:04 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
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In message Eric Stevens wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jul 2017 06:19:58 +0200, Joerg Lorenz
wrote:


Am 07.07.17 um 06:03 schrieb Lucifer Morningstar:
You get that for $2.60 when you buy from China.

Who wants to buy from China in the first place?


Apple.


You're confused.


Think Foxcon.
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Old July 9th 17, 01:19 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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You get that for $2.60 when you buy from China.

Who wants to buy from China in the first place?


Apple.


You're confused.


Think Foxcon.


lots of companies use foxconn, not just apple.

it's also made to apple's specs, not cheap knock-off crap you find on
ebay or alibaba.
  #306  
Old July 9th 17, 01:35 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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On 09/07/2017 01:19, nospam wrote:
it's also made to apple's specs, not cheap knock-off crap you find on
ebay or alibaba.


Please leave eBay alone because SteveGG buys dead donkeys on eBay and
comes here for somebody to give life to it.

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Old July 9th 17, 09:26 AM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 20:19:43 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

You get that for $2.60 when you buy from China.

Who wants to buy from China in the first place?

Apple.

You're confused.


Think Foxcon.


lots of companies use foxconn, not just apple.

it's also made to apple's specs, not cheap knock-off crap you find on
ebay or alibaba.


None of which is really relevant to the subject under discussion.
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  #308  
Old July 9th 17, 04:07 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

You get that for $2.60 when you buy from China.

Who wants to buy from China in the first place?

Apple.

You're confused.

Think Foxcon.


lots of companies use foxconn, not just apple.

it's also made to apple's specs, not cheap knock-off crap you find on
ebay or alibaba.


None of which is really relevant to the subject under discussion.


it's exactly relevant.
  #309  
Old July 9th 17, 08:26 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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Sat, 08 Jul 2017
20:40:24 GMT in alt.comp.os.windows-10, wrote:

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i717K PF1E4jV6iSIb, Diesel wrote:


itunes: set itunes to automatically transcode your music on the
fly, from lossless or 320k mp3/aac to 128k for the ipod,
because you can't hear any difference while jogging with
cars/trucks going by. as above, connect ipod, sync. music
transcoded on the fly, no additional steps.


Why would I want to transcode what's already more than acceptable
drm free mp3? Seems like i'm wasting time going thru that step.


because there's no need for high bit rate audio on a portable
player. it's a waste of space, as i said.


Depends on the portable player and what you've connected it's output
to...

it's much better to transcode to a lower bitrate and get more
songs on the device.


That's your own personal opinion. I don't share it. Quantity isn't
the same as quality, remember?

Especially when I can drag/drop or copy/paste. I can drop entire
albums in track order with a few clicks or a single command at
console. I don't have to 'initialize' my mp3 player either.


that's more work than is necessary.


What specifically is more work than necessary? Be specific.

And, it works the same way under *nix as it does Windows. Makes
life easy. No special software needed as it's treated as an
external drive.


and greatly limited in functionality.


Er, you have no idea what my mp3 player has or doesn't. What
functionality do you think I'm missing?


itunes: subscribe to a podcast and set itunes to auto-sync new
episodes. connect ipod and the episodes you already listened to
are replaced with new ones which were downloaded when they were
published, entirely automatically, no user interaction.
required.


RSS feeds do that for me, though. I don't need itunes for that.


no they don't.


You don't know what RSS feeds are? Gotcha.

The
podcasts I've seen are also available in trusty, good ol mp3,
too.


nobody said they weren't mp3.

where did you get the idea they were in another format??


Heh, you can download them in a variety of formats, actually. Didn't
you know that?

you might not, but many other people do.


Are you sure they need it? They might not even be aware your precious
itunes even supports it.

My mp3 player keeps a little record that I
can change/delete at any time. If I let the song play, it gets a
good mark. if I tend to skip it, the mp3 player won't pick it
often during random playback. It 'learns' what I like based on
what I have on it.

I don't have to sync it to anything either.


then it's useless.


Hows that?

And, if a friend wants a
copy of all of the music on it, or a single song, they can just
plug it into their device and copy the tune(s) over. No software
required.


that's called piracy.


Awe. Doesn't your apple toy let you do that too?

I can even copy non audio files over to it and treat it like a
USB stick, if I so desire. It knows it can't play them, it
ignores them but keeps them in memory for me to do whatever I
want with the non audio files.


so what? ipods can do that too.


I don't need itunes to do it for me.

itunes: share music to other computers, set top boxes and other
peripherals on the network (which do not have to be from
apple).


I already do that, without itunes. Every single computer on this
network has read access to the share. Some computers are tied
into stereo systems, others are tied into large TV sets for movie
watching. Which is a seperate share. It's very organized. Watch,
listen, to whatever you like, whenever you like. Wanna copy it to
yours to take with you? You can do that too, no software
required; since NONE of my stuff is DRM.


who said anything about drm?


I did. My stuff has NEVER been DRM, whereas Apple has in the past,
and, afaik, is still partially today with the Movies, unless thats
changed too?

your way: not possible, other than file sharing to another
computer, which would require a suitable media player.


You must have no idea how a LAN works...


wrong on that too.


Oh? So why did you write what you did then? Go ahead, enlighten me.

what's clear is that you haven't any clue whatsoever about itunes
and many other topics.


Says the one who incorrectly labeled me as a wannabe script kiddie.
Actually, truth be told, it's you who's been writing alot of bull****
about a wide variety of topics you know nothing about, first or even
second hand.

You provide vague answers to any questions asked of you and tend to
try to insult the other poster whenever you think you can sneak one
in. I've read alot of threads now involving you. I'm just stopping
short of calling you a troll at this point.


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Old July 9th 17, 08:26 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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Sat, 08 Jul 2017
20:40:23 GMT in alt.comp.os.windows-10, wrote:

In article
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i717K PF1E4jV6iSIb, Diesel wrote:


That means I can collect all the iPods in the neighborhood,
and connect them at once to the network, and just share files
at will.

translated: you pirate music and movies.


Bad translation. No evidence to support it.


other than admitting it, you mean?


Nope. Re-read what I wrote.

sharing music without permission from the copyright owner, which
he does not have from 'collecting ipods in the neighborhood', is
piracy.


He specifically mentioned files. Do you know what those files actually
are? Neither do I. So, how do you know he doesn't have permission?
You're making assumptions.


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Old July 9th 17, 08:26 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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Jolly Roger
Sat, 08 Jul 2017 20:21:39 GMT
in alt.comp.os.windows-10, wrote:

On 2017-07-08, Diesel wrote:
Jolly Roger
Sat, 17 Jun 2017 20:38:55
GMT in alt.comp.os.windows-10, wrote:

Only to the ignorant. Meanwhile those of us who have actually
used it have no problem with it because it works great. Go
figure.


In a home based LAN setup, maybe. If you need more control,
doesn't seem like a good choice.


Most people don't "need more control".


Oh? How do you know what most people need?

I might not want computers in another dept using my printer.


Straw man. Nobody here claimed that Bonjour was compulsory - only
that it adds value and isn't the so-called huge problem
Apple-hating trolls love to claim it is on Windows. If you don't
want it, nobody is stopping you from avoiding it or removing it.


You seem to be a bit of an Apple fanboy to me, but, I'm not an Apple
hating troll. I don't hate Apple per say, but, I wouldn't call myself
a fan of them, either. And btw, no strawman argument or setup for one
exists in my post, despite you thinking the contrary.




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Old July 9th 17, 08:26 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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20:40:26 GMT in alt.comp.os.windows-10, wrote:

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i717K PF1E4jV6iSIb, Diesel wrote:


You don't need bonjour for the computer to discover devices
on LAN.

yes you do. that's the point of bonjour.

Er, I don't. My computers see each other and various other LAN
enabled devices just fine, without bonjour. Networking
protocols are funny like that. /sarcasm.

not without manual configuration, they don't.


That actually depends on the device and router settings. But, I
won't bore you with technical details.


wise move, because you'll show yourself to be a much bigger fool
than you already have.


*larf*

and the crashes you claim are pure fabrication anyway.
roughly a *billion* people use itunes without issue. it's
one of the most popular apps on windows (source: microsoft).

With field experience, I have to disagree with you. I've seen
bonjour crash out; it's not always a pleasant experience.

bull****.
you're blaming bonjour without having investigated the cause,
which is almost certainly *not* bonjour.


Event viewer and memory dumps tend to tell the tale. Ever
analyzed a dump?


sure have. more than i can count. i've been writing software for
years.


Sure you have...

you're still wrong.


I doubt it.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread...art=0&tstart=0
https://apple.stackexchange.com/ques...our-on-windows

or, don't realize that they don't
infact have to have it?

people use itunes because they *want* to use itunes, not
because they *have* to use it, because of the numerous features
and benefits it provides. it empowers users to do things that
are not possible any other way.


Again, they may not be aware it's not required in some cases.


itunes is not required.


https://discussions.apple.com/thread...art=0&tstart=0

Yes it is. For initial setup, firmware updates, etc.

I don't have that problem with my mp3 player. I don't need special
software installed to update it's firmware, change the music, or set
it up, initially.

users *want* to use itunes for all sorts of reasons.


Some do. Not all.


I personally refuse to buy ANY mp3/audio
player that demands I use a 'special' app to load it with
music/video, etc.

your loss.


I see no loss in that decision.


of course you don't, because you don't know anything beyond your
outdated methods, and since you use linux, you're *stuck* with
them.


ROFL! I use Linux and Windows. Thanks.

by doing so, you end up with fewer features, a lot more effort
to use whatever player you get and a significantly worse user
experience.


I disagree.


then you'd be wrong.


Cite specific examples, then.

there's also no need for a usb port or a usb cable because
modern devices sync over wifi and even automatically if the
user chooses, or the user can use the cloud and have access to
*everything*.


I *don't* want it to sync over wifi. I tend to keep my data
local, thanks.


what ever gave you the idea it wouldn't be local????


Did you miss the period at the end of the sentence?

not only do you not know how a lan works but you clearly do not
know how wifi works or how both can be configured.


My certifications would tend to disagree, but, I digress.

The cloud is a cute buzzword for offsite storage. Of which
you have limited to no control over, depending on the situation.


it's more than a cute buzzword and a user can have as much control
as they want.


It's offsite storage controlled by other parties. You don't have
full control over that.



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Old July 9th 17, 10:40 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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Diesel wrote on 7/9/2017 12:26 PM:
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Sat, 08 Jul 2017
20:40:26 GMT in alt.comp.os.windows-10, wrote:
itunes is not required.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread...art=0&tstart=0

Yes it is. For initial setup, firmware updates, etc.



As of iOS 5, you don't need iTunes to update or activate your iOS device.

https://web.archive.org/web/20120910101357/https://www.apple.com/ios/features.html

| Independence for all iOS devices.
|
| With iOS 5, you no longer need a computer to own an iPad, iPhone, or
| iPod touch. Activate and set up your device wirelessly, right out of
| the box. Download free iOS software updates directly on your device.
| Do more with your apps — like editing your photos or adding new email
| folders — on your device, without the need for a Mac or PC. And back
| up and restore your device automatically using iCloud.

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Old July 9th 17, 11:51 PM posted to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.mac.apps
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In article , Diesel
wrote:

itunes: set itunes to automatically transcode your music on the
fly, from lossless or 320k mp3/aac to 128k for the ipod,
because you can't hear any difference while jogging with
cars/trucks going by. as above, connect ipod, sync. music
transcoded on the fly, no additional steps.

Why would I want to transcode what's already more than acceptable
drm free mp3? Seems like i'm wasting time going thru that step.


because there's no need for high bit rate audio on a portable
player. it's a waste of space, as i said.


Depends on the portable player and what you've connected it's output
to...


which will be headphones (it's a portable music player, after all) and,
usually cheap crappy ones.

it's much better to transcode to a lower bitrate and get more
songs on the device.


That's your own personal opinion. I don't share it. Quantity isn't
the same as quality, remember?


it's not an opinion, and quantity versus quality is exactly the point.

you're very confused.

Especially when I can drag/drop or copy/paste. I can drop entire
albums in track order with a few clicks or a single command at
console. I don't have to 'initialize' my mp3 player either.


that's more work than is necessary.


What specifically is more work than necessary? Be specific.


'a few clicks' is more work than no clicks.

the computer is there to do work *for* you.

And, it works the same way under *nix as it does Windows. Makes
life easy. No special software needed as it's treated as an
external drive.


and greatly limited in functionality.


Er, you have no idea what my mp3 player has or doesn't. What
functionality do you think I'm missing?


i already gave several examples.

managing content directly in the file system is very limiting. there's
no getting around that basic fact.

itunes: subscribe to a podcast and set itunes to auto-sync new
episodes. connect ipod and the episodes you already listened to
are replaced with new ones which were downloaded when they were
published, entirely automatically, no user interaction.
required.

RSS feeds do that for me, though. I don't need itunes for that.


no they don't.


You don't know what RSS feeds are? Gotcha.


an rss feed *cannot* do what itunes can do.

The
podcasts I've seen are also available in trusty, good ol mp3,
too.


nobody said they weren't mp3.

where did you get the idea they were in another format??


Heh, you can download them in a variety of formats, actually. Didn't
you know that?


only if the creator offers them in a variety of formats. some do, but
not all.

that also has nothing to do with itunes. itunes will play good ol' mp3
without issue.

you might not, but many other people do.


Are you sure they need it? They might not even be aware your precious
itunes even supports it.


it's not my precious itunes, and all that matters is if *they* want to
use it, which they do.

you don't get to decide or dictate what others want or need.

as much as it offends you, a whole ****load of people like apple
products and want to use them.

My mp3 player keeps a little record that I
can change/delete at any time. If I let the song play, it gets a
good mark. if I tend to skip it, the mp3 player won't pick it
often during random playback. It 'learns' what I like based on
what I have on it.

I don't have to sync it to anything either.


then it's useless.


Hows that?


because it's local to the device.

listen to music on another device and it won't know about what you
skipped or played on that device unless you manually export/import it
(assuming that's possible), which is additional work that itunes does
automatically *for* you.

And, if a friend wants a
copy of all of the music on it, or a single song, they can just
plug it into their device and copy the tune(s) over. No software
required.


that's called piracy.


Awe. Doesn't your apple toy let you do that too?


of course it does, but that doesn't make it legal.

you're trying to justify piracy, which you've done in other posts too.

you have no ethics or morals.

I can even copy non audio files over to it and treat it like a
USB stick, if I so desire. It knows it can't play them, it
ignores them but keeps them in memory for me to do whatever I
want with the non audio files.


so what? ipods can do that too.


I don't need itunes to do it for me.


nor does anyone else.

your ignorance about itunes continues to grow.

itunes: share music to other computers, set top boxes and other
peripherals on the network (which do not have to be from
apple).

I already do that, without itunes. Every single computer on this
network has read access to the share. Some computers are tied
into stereo systems, others are tied into large TV sets for movie
watching. Which is a seperate share. It's very organized. Watch,
listen, to whatever you like, whenever you like. Wanna copy it to
yours to take with you? You can do that too, no software
required; since NONE of my stuff is DRM.


who said anything about drm?


I did. My stuff has NEVER been DRM, whereas Apple has in the past,
and, afaik, is still partially today with the Movies, unless thats
changed too?


apple has always been anti-drm. apple does not want drm at all. even
mac os isn't drm'ed (unlike windows).

the music industry *forced* apple to use drm for music that was sold on
the itunes music store because the music industry was terrified of
rampant piracy.

back then, drm was everywhere. nobody sold drm-free music, and out of
all of the drm schemes that existed at the time, apple's was the
*least* restrictive.

of course, ipods played music from any source, not just the itunes
store. users could extract audio from their own cds or they could
pirate it.

once the music industry realized that online music sales was actually
profitable and that it reduced piracy, they stopped requiring drm, at
which point apple was able to drop on the music store, as did other
music sellers.

however, the movie industry continues to require drm, and it's not just
apple either. buy/rent a movie on the google play store and it's
drm'ed.

your way: not possible, other than file sharing to another
computer, which would require a suitable media player.

You must have no idea how a LAN works...


wrong on that too.


Oh? So why did you write what you did then? Go ahead, enlighten me.


because you can't do the things that itunes can do, or at best, not
without a *lot* of work.

that has nothing to do with lans or my knowledge of them.

what's clear is that you haven't any clue whatsoever about itunes
and many other topics.


Says the one who incorrectly labeled me as a wannabe script kiddie.
Actually, truth be told, it's you who's been writing alot of bull****
about a wide variety of topics you know nothing about, first or even
second hand.


that would be you.

you've yet to get *anything* about apple correct. not a single thing.

You provide vague answers to any questions asked of you and tend to
try to insult the other poster whenever you think you can sneak one
in. I've read alot of threads now involving you. I'm just stopping
short of calling you a troll at this point.


i do not insult anyone unless insulted first, which you did long ago.

my answers are *not* vague. they're very specific, with numerous
references backing up what i say.

you're also highly combative, arguing at every turn, even when shown to
be wrong.

all you do is spew, which is quickly refuted and shown to be bull****.

that makes *you* the troll.
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In article , Diesel
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That means I can collect all the iPods in the neighborhood,
and connect them at once to the network, and just share files
at will.

translated: you pirate music and movies.

Bad translation. No evidence to support it.


other than admitting it, you mean?


Nope. Re-read what I wrote.

sharing music without permission from the copyright owner, which
he does not have from 'collecting ipods in the neighborhood', is
piracy.


He specifically mentioned files. Do you know what those files actually
are? Neither do I. So, how do you know he doesn't have permission?
You're making assumptions.


they're music and movies and you know it.

there's no point in using an ipod to share data files when a usb stick
would be easier, or just connect directly.

not only that, but according to you, an ipod is so crippled that it
can't store anything *but* music and movies, which would make it
impossible for it not to be piracy (that is of course false, but that
was your claim).
 




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