Activation-How do I stop the insanity?

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"kurttrail" wrote in message
...
Richard Urban wrote:
I have plugged in thousands of USB devices into many hundreds of
different computers. The next time doing so causes me to have to
either reboot or reactivate a computer, will be the first time that I
have seen this phenomenon.

I would call this an anomaly, not a standard occurrence. Deal with it
and get on with your life. It is inconsequential, at best.


"Mark Smith" wrote in message
...
About three days ago I posted a message here or in the hardware group
defending MS Activation because it took me less than 3 clicks; it
was fast and easy. Well guess what.

I hooked up a USB camera last night. I got a popup saying that
before the effects could take place I had to reboot. When I
rebooted, I got the Activation popup saying I my hardware
configuration had changed. Before that I switched HDD's around and put
in a new cd drive. I
don't know how I could have exceeded anything. Anyway, I let the
activation automatically dial me into their 800 number. I am on
dial-up by the way. Then I got disconnected saying I had exceeded my
activations. I then
realized I was going to have to enter a 60 digit number, so I said
screw it and opted out to talk directly to a rep. I was on hold for
4 minutes. When she came on, I told her all I did was connect a usb
camera. She explained that everytime my hardware changed I would
have to reactivate. I told her I had a new video card coming and a new
DVD writer
coming, so I had better wait before reactivating now because I don't
want to have to go through this again when my new hardware arrives
from newegg. She said I could not wait and that I was going to have to
call out
my 60 digit number and then she would reissue me a new number that I
had to enter to reactivate.

This whole process took exactly 10 minutes. And I am going to have
to go through this every time I connect a USB camera? Are you
kidding me? The camera is a cybershot and when I plug it into my USB hub
it says
found new hardware but you must reboot before changes can take
effect. Will MS pay for me to get a card reader so I don't have to keep
disconnecting my camera? I can't believe I am going to have to go
through this again when my video card gets here. I am going to make
damn sure I do the DVD writer at the same time.

How much money is MS saving by doing this activation? I am telling
you that I am actually thinking about getting an illegal copy of XP
now!!!!! When I bought this XP from Circuit City, you guys should have
had
this disclaimer on it:

WARNING: Microsoft now makes it very inconvenient for you to use XP
if you are going to build your own computer.

Yes, other people being treated like they are guilty is inconsequential to
those that are fascists at heart.

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Mark Smith wrote:

About three days ago I posted a message here or in the hardware group
defending MS Activation because it took me less than 3 clicks; it was fast
and easy. Well guess what.

I hooked up a USB camera last night. I got a popup saying that before the
effects could take place I had to reboot. When I rebooted, I got the
Activation popup saying I my hardware configuration had changed.

Before that I switched HDD's around and put in a new cd drive. I don't know
how I could have exceeded anything. Anyway, I let the activation
automatically dial me into their 800 number. I am on dial-up by the way.

Then I got disconnected saying I had exceeded my activations. I then
realized I was going to have to enter a 60 digit number, so I said screw it
and opted out to talk directly to a rep. I was on hold for 4 minutes. When
she came on, I told her all I did was connect a usb camera. She explained
that everytime my hardware changed I would have to reactivate.

I told her I had a new video card coming and a new DVD writer coming, so I
had better wait before reactivating now because I don't want to have to go
through this again when my new hardware arrives from newegg.

She said I could not wait and that I was going to have to call out my 60
digit number and then she would reissue me a new number that I had to enter
to reactivate.

This whole process took exactly 10 minutes. And I am going to have to go
through this every time I connect a USB camera? Are you kidding me?

The camera is a cybershot and when I plug it into my USB hub it says found
new hardware but you must reboot before changes can take effect.

Will MS pay for me to get a card reader so I don't have to keep
disconnecting my camera? I can't believe I am going to have to go through
this again when my video card gets here. I am going to make damn sure I do
the DVD writer at the same time.

How much money is MS saving by doing this activation? I am telling you that
I am actually thinking about getting an illegal copy of XP now!!!!!

When I bought this XP from Circuit City, you guys should have had this
disclaimer on it:

WARNING: Microsoft now makes it very inconvenient for you to use XP if you
are going to build your own computer.

Man, this thread is ugly !

Gives me another reason to like my job - it comes with an XP Volume
License :-)

Triffid

I stopped following this thread days ago because it got too personal, but I
wanted to let everyone know that I just put in my new video card. I did not
get the activation screen upon reboot.

My 1gig memory will not be here until Tuesday though.

Richard Urban wrote:
The last time I reactivated by phone I WAS done within 5 minutes.
Sorry to inform you of this. I was here - you weren't!


If it was a forced phone activation, then it is practically impossible.


"kurttrail" wrote in
message ...
Richard Urban wrote:
I know that it seems to suck, but you just got a bad tech. A popup
on your screen will tell you exactly how many days you have to
activate or reactivate. Believe what your computer tells you, not
some person from a third world country.

I change hardware much more than others also. I have had to
reactivate about 4-5 times over the years because of this. My
situation is NOT the norm. Many, many people buy a computer and used
it until it dies, without even adding one additional program or
piece of hardware. They don't know that they can. They replace what
may go bad by sending the computer back to the manufacturer. What
they usually get is an exact replacement part.
Also, their computer may have, in fact, been activated by the
manufacturer or need no activation because of the way the
manufacturer installs the operating system on their computers. The
customer/user does not even know that the process exists.

You and I are different. I have learned to live with it and I am
certain that you can also. At most, it is a phone call of about 5
minutes.

Yep and some Americans learned to live with the Bush administrations
lies. And the phone call takes more than 5 minutes liar. Just
navigating
the BS menus, and typing in your activation code, and then having to
repeat it takes longer than 5 minutes. And that is if a rep is
available immediately. MS seems to have cut down on the number of
phone reps, and a wait on hold is likely to.



"Mark Smith" wrote in message
...
"Richard Urban" wrote in
message news:eaMB1D6%

......you turned to ranting.
BTW, the time you took with only your first post would have been
well spent
by just reactivating your operating system. You have spent well
over ten times that amount of time now!


Thanks for the recap.

You are right that I am ranting now. I am frustrated, especially
because I know I have a new video card coming and a 1gig of ram
coming. The MS tech said when I install that I am going to have
activate again. You are wrong about the USB not needed in my
original post. I have
never seen a pop up like that before, so it was relevant.

And I did reactivate. I had no choice. The tech said I had no
choice, even though there was a tab on the activation screen that
said I could continue later. I had asked if I could wait because I
knew I had new hardware coming.

I hope you noticed from all this that I have not complained about
XP at all. It is just the activation, and because I just learned
from the tech that I am going to have to get a new number every
time I activate from now on.

And before when all I had to do was click three times, I had no
complaint about the activation process.



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echy wrote:
Wondering why you adopt such an aggressive/angry stance. Doesn't seem
like such a good idea when you are seeking help or advice. Just my
personal opinionthough, not trying to be a "pain".

Regards
Echy

Mark Smith wrote:
I never said the camera caused the activation!!!!!!! What is wrong
with you people? I said that is why I rebooted!! I also said right
after that that I switched around two HDD's and put in a new cdrom.
What post were you guys reading?

"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...

I have plugged in thousands of USB devices into many hundreds of
different computers. The next time doing so causes me to have to
either reboot or reactivate a computer, will be the first time that
I have seen this phenomenon.

I would call this an anomaly, not a standard occurrence. Deal with
it and get on with your life. It is inconsequential, at best.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Mark Smith" wrote in message
...

About three days ago I posted a message here or in the hardware
group defending MS Activation because it took me less than 3
clicks; it was fast and easy. Well guess what.

I hooked up a USB camera last night. I got a popup saying that
before the effects could take place I had to reboot. When I
rebooted, I got the Activation popup saying I my hardware
configuration had changed. Before that I switched HDD's around and
put in a new cd drive. I
don't know how I could have exceeded anything. Anyway, I let the
activation automatically dial me into their 800 number. I am on
dial-up by the way. Then I got disconnected saying I had exceeded
my activations. I
then realized I was going to have to enter a 60 digit number, so I
said screw it and opted out to talk directly to a rep. I was on
hold for 4 minutes. When she came on, I told her all I did was
connect a usb camera. She explained that everytime my hardware
changed I would have to reactivate. I told her I had a new video
card coming and a new DVD writer
coming, so I had better wait before reactivating now because I
don't want to have to go through this again when my new hardware
arrives from newegg. She said I could not wait and that I was going
to have to call out
my 60 digit number and then she would reissue me a new number that
I had to enter to reactivate.

This whole process took exactly 10 minutes. And I am going to have
to go through this every time I connect a USB camera? Are you
kidding me? The camera is a cybershot and when I plug it into my
USB hub it
says found new hardware but you must reboot before changes can
take effect. Will MS pay for me to get a card reader so I don't
have to keep
disconnecting my camera? I can't believe I am going to have to go
through this again when my video card gets here. I am going to
make damn sure I do the DVD writer at the same time.

How much money is MS saving by doing this activation? I am telling
you that I am actually thinking about getting an illegal copy of
XP now!!!!! When I bought this XP from Circuit City, you guys
should have had
this disclaimer on it:

WARNING: Microsoft now makes it very inconvenient for you to use
XP if you are going to build your own computer.

Screw you! I hope karma finds you on the wrong end of a PA fault, and
then we'll see aggressive/angry you get!

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Richard Urban wrote:
Having a good day I see! You can't flap the unflappable.

So your heart doesn't beat at all!

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Mark Smith wrote:
I stopped following this thread days ago because it got too personal,
but I wanted to let everyone know that I just put in my new video
card. I did not get the activation screen upon reboot.

My 1gig memory will not be here until Tuesday though.

LOL! PA is particularly flakey with RAM upgrades.

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kurttrail wrote:
echy wrote:

Wondering why you adopt such an aggressive/angry stance. Doesn't seem
like such a good idea when you are seeking help or advice. Just my
personal opinionthough, not trying to be a "pain".

Regards
Echy

Mark Smith wrote:

I never said the camera caused the activation!!!!!!! What is wrong
with you people? I said that is why I rebooted!! I also said right
after that that I switched around two HDD's and put in a new cdrom.
What post were you guys reading?

"Richard Urban" wrote in message
.. .


I have plugged in thousands of USB devices into many hundreds of
different computers. The next time doing so causes me to have to
either reboot or reactivate a computer, will be the first time that
I have seen this phenomenon.

I would call this an anomaly, not a standard occurrence. Deal with
it and get on with your life. It is inconsequential, at best.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Mark Smith" wrote in message
.. .


About three days ago I posted a message here or in the hardware
group defending MS Activation because it took me less than 3
clicks; it was fast and easy. Well guess what.

I hooked up a USB camera last night. I got a popup saying that
before the effects could take place I had to reboot. When I
rebooted, I got the Activation popup saying I my hardware
configuration had changed. Before that I switched HDD's around and
put in a new cd drive. I
don't know how I could have exceeded anything. Anyway, I let the
activation automatically dial me into their 800 number. I am on
dial-up by the way. Then I got disconnected saying I had exceeded
my activations. I
then realized I was going to have to enter a 60 digit number, so I
said screw it and opted out to talk directly to a rep. I was on
hold for 4 minutes. When she came on, I told her all I did was
connect a usb camera. She explained that everytime my hardware
changed I would have to reactivate. I told her I had a new video
card coming and a new DVD writer
coming, so I had better wait before reactivating now because I
don't want to have to go through this again when my new hardware
arrives from newegg. She said I could not wait and that I was going
to have to call out
my 60 digit number and then she would reissue me a new number that
I had to enter to reactivate.

This whole process took exactly 10 minutes. And I am going to have
to go through this every time I connect a USB camera? Are you
kidding me? The camera is a cybershot and when I plug it into my
USB hub it
says found new hardware but you must reboot before changes can
take effect. Will MS pay for me to get a card reader so I don't
have to keep
disconnecting my camera? I can't believe I am going to have to go
through this again when my video card gets here. I am going to
make damn sure I do the DVD writer at the same time.

How much money is MS saving by doing this activation? I am telling
you that I am actually thinking about getting an illegal copy of
XP now!!!!! When I bought this XP from Circuit City, you guys
should have had
this disclaimer on it:

WARNING: Microsoft now makes it very inconvenient for you to use
XP if you are going to build your own computer.


Screw you! I hope karma finds you on the wrong end of a PA fault, and
then we'll see aggressive/angry you get!


I wish you luck with your problem I would help if I could.

P.S........ and possibly it could be time for you to consider an anger
management program. Just a suggestion.

echy wrote:
kurttrail wrote:
echy wrote:

Wondering why you adopt such an aggressive/angry stance. Doesn't
seem like such a good idea when you are seeking help or advice.
Just my personal opinionthough, not trying to be a "pain".

Regards
Echy

Mark Smith wrote:

I never said the camera caused the activation!!!!!!! What is wrong
with you people? I said that is why I rebooted!! I also said right
after that that I switched around two HDD's and put in a new cdrom.
What post were you guys reading?

"Richard Urban" wrote in
message ...


I have plugged in thousands of USB devices into many hundreds of
different computers. The next time doing so causes me to have to
either reboot or reactivate a computer, will be the first time
that I have seen this phenomenon.

I would call this an anomaly, not a standard occurrence. Deal with
it and get on with your life. It is inconsequential, at best.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Mark Smith" wrote in message
...


About three days ago I posted a message here or in the hardware
group defending MS Activation because it took me less than 3
clicks; it was fast and easy. Well guess what.

I hooked up a USB camera last night. I got a popup saying that
before the effects could take place I had to reboot. When I
rebooted, I got the Activation popup saying I my hardware
configuration had changed. Before that I switched HDD's around
and put in a new cd drive. I
don't know how I could have exceeded anything. Anyway, I let the
activation automatically dial me into their 800 number. I am on
dial-up by the way. Then I got disconnected saying I had exceeded
my activations. I
then realized I was going to have to enter a 60 digit number, so
I said screw it and opted out to talk directly to a rep. I was on
hold for 4 minutes. When she came on, I told her all I did was
connect a usb camera. She explained that everytime my hardware
changed I would have to reactivate. I told her I had a new video
card coming and a new DVD writer
coming, so I had better wait before reactivating now because I
don't want to have to go through this again when my new hardware
arrives from newegg. She said I could not wait and that I was
going to have to call out
my 60 digit number and then she would reissue me a new number
that I had to enter to reactivate.

This whole process took exactly 10 minutes. And I am going to
have to go through this every time I connect a USB camera? Are
you kidding me? The camera is a cybershot and when I plug it
into my USB hub it
says found new hardware but you must reboot before changes can
take effect. Will MS pay for me to get a card reader so I don't
have to keep
disconnecting my camera? I can't believe I am going to have to go
through this again when my video card gets here. I am going to
make damn sure I do the DVD writer at the same time.

How much money is MS saving by doing this activation? I am
telling you that I am actually thinking about getting an illegal
copy of XP now!!!!! When I bought this XP from Circuit City, you
guys should have had
this disclaimer on it:

WARNING: Microsoft now makes it very inconvenient for you to use
XP if you are going to build your own computer.


Screw you! I hope karma finds you on the wrong end of a PA fault,
and then we'll see aggressive/angry you get!


I wish you luck with your problem I would help if I could.

P.S........ and possibly it could be time for you to consider an
anger management program. Just a suggestion.

I have no problem, Itchy, and if I did, I'd be able to find my own
solution.

And as for anger, I handle that just fine, thanks.

But here is a suggestion for you:

Kiss my big fat pimply pasty white ass! ;-)

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kurttrail wrote:

LOL! PA is particularly flakey with RAM upgrades.



It is only flakey with people with low intelligence! I have never had
any problems thus far and I only upgrade memory modules as and when I
get throw-aways from my university.

Mark Smith wrote:

I stopped following this thread days ago because it got too personal, but I
wanted to let everyone know that I just put in my new video card. I did not
get the activation screen upon reboot.



You haven't missed anything as I too was away busy keeping up-do-date
with World Cup qualifying Groups. Have a look here since you like ball
games:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...06/4511110.stm

USA is in Group E!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot..._a/default.stm

echy wrote:

I wish you luck with your problem I would help if I could.

P.S........ and possibly it could be time for you to consider an anger
management program. Just a suggestion.


He is not likely to need any help as he is using cracked software which
is not supported.

No amount of anger management is going to make any difference with him.

ANONYMOUS wrote:


kurttrail wrote:

LOL! PA is particularly flakey with RAM upgrades.




It is only flakey with people with low intelligence!

How, spray tell, does a program know the difference?

I have never had
any problems thus far and I only upgrade memory modules as and when I
get throw-aways from my university.

Not very clear. If you had said, "I originally had 128MB and I went to
1.5GB and had no problems", you might have a point.

Alias

ANONYMOUS wrote:


echy wrote:

I wish you luck with your problem I would help if I could.

P.S........ and possibly it could be time for you to consider an anger
management program. Just a suggestion.



He is not likely to need any help as he is using cracked software which
is not supported.

Um, cracked versions of XP need not be activated. Paid for versions are
not all "supported" either.

Alias

ANONYMOUS wrote:
echy wrote:

I wish you luck with your problem I would help if I could.

P.S........ and possibly it could be time for you to consider an
anger management program. Just a suggestion.


He is not likely to need any help as he is using cracked software
which is not supported.


You have no idea about what you are talking about.

No amount of anger management is going to make any difference with
him.

Since, I ain't angry, of course not.

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