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Old May 26th 19, 02:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default What is the active W/7 group?

I am finally reaching the point that too many things are not
supporting XP and I am moving over to the dark side.
I didn't see a W/7 group anywhere near this one in the list.
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Old May 26th 19, 03:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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wrote:
I am finally reaching the point that too many things are not
supporting XP and I am moving over to the dark side.
I didn't see a W/7 group anywhere near this one in the list.


For the alt.* hierarchy, newgroup() is handled manually.
Human intervention is now required, on each NNTP server.

Back when we wanted a Windows 7 group, we'd ask the admin
on the server we were on, to add it.

If you go to your newsgroup list, it can be missing for two reasons:

1) Nobody asked the admin on YOUR server to add it.

2) You haven't clicked the "Upgrade newsgroup list" lately,
and your newsgroup list is "stale".

Now, if you did (2) a year ago, you would easily have
the Windows7 one in your list.

With those issues out of the way, this is a non-exhaustive
list of things to look for.

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general \___ private hierarchy, no owner!
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general / Floats in the vacuum of space
alt.windows7.general \
alt.comp.os.windows-8 \__ Not managed by Big-8 MGMT board.
alt.comp.os.windows-10 / Only signed newgroup() would work
to automate the creation and make
these appear in Google Groups.
Signed with WHAT exactly ? :-)

In particular, Google Groups won't have the last three,
because they lack an "administrator contact" so we cannot
write to them and tell them to add the last three (as well
as a significant number of missing Linux ones).

Alt.* is the lazy guy way to add newsgroups. No "writing
a proposal, doing the RFC and vote thing" as in the Big-8
groups. Simply create them and hope the average administrator
applies their "naming standards" clue, to ensure the
systematic naming conventions are followed. You'll notice
in the above list, we had a "fail" on the Windows7 one :-)
Whoever added that the first time, wasn't wearing his
"big boy pants". But once a name is chosen, the name
must be the same on all servers, so the protocol for
syncing the servers will work correctly.

There are actually other randomly-added groups out there
which might be applicable, so don't give up when presented
with such a short list. For example, there might be UK
specific versions of some of those.

Paul
  #5  
Old May 26th 19, 08:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sun, 26 May 2019 11:02:53 -0600, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

wrote:
I am finally reaching the point that too many things are not
supporting XP and I am moving over to the dark side.
I didn't see a W/7 group anywhere near this one in the list.


If you want, just make sure you're using the latest XP versions of FF
(52.9esr) and Chrome (49.0), and you might get a little more mileage with
XP, in so far as browser limitations are as a limiting factor. Programs are
obviously another matter. BTW, you'll probably want to consider adding
Classic Shell to Windows 7 once you get there.


Is that something else or just clicking classic in the personalization
(or whatever). I did do that and things got more familiar. I do have
one machine on 7 now that seems fairly usable for my day to day.
The other 2 are just used as media machines and I don't really do much
else with them. (hooked to TVs)
My problem is the new FF 52.9 still will not stream a lot of stuff. It
was easier to just go dig out the original W/7 drives that were in
them when I got them and boot them up.
I poked around in the alt W/7 group and saw them talking about PC
Mover. Can you really port over all of your XP installed stuff to 7
with that? (assuming it will run on 7) Is there a legacy mode that
will let you run them?
I was really happy that my long lost buddy Attila the Hungarian wrote
his 20th century DOS MP3 player so it would run on 7 without doing
anything extra.
That was just a "copy and run it" thing.

  #6  
Old May 26th 19, 08:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sun, 26 May 2019 12:24:20 -0500, Paul in Houston TX
wrote:

wrote:
I am finally reaching the point that too many things are not
supporting XP and I am moving over to the dark side.
I didn't see a W/7 group anywhere near this one in the list.


alt.windows7.general
You will probably like W7. If you have 16 bit progs that you
want to run then install the 7/32 bit version.
However, I would install the 64 bit and increase RAM to get the
most functionality out of W7.
Might want to get ClassicShell / Classic Start Menu.
Research how to create a Quick Launch tool bar.
And get rid of the libraries except for "My Documents".


The machines I have shipped with the 32 bit w/7 OS. That is what I am
using. I put another drive in them when I went back to XP so it was
easy to get up to 7 again. Just swap drives.
They are all some kind of dual core so I guess they might run 64 bit
if I saw the need.
Seven seems tolerable, people say 8 is not worth doing and I hate 10.
I may die running 7 as long as they still have a browser that works on
media files.
Since Microsoft is pretty much telling us they are going to a
subscription service, I suspect there may be other options soon
besides linux.
  #7  
Old May 26th 19, 08:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill in Co[_3_]
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wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 11:02:53 -0600, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

wrote:
I am finally reaching the point that too many things are not
supporting XP and I am moving over to the dark side.
I didn't see a W/7 group anywhere near this one in the list.


If you want, just make sure you're using the latest XP versions of FF
(52.9esr) and Chrome (49.0), and you might get a little more mileage with
XP, in so far as browser limitations are as a limiting factor. Programs
are obviously another matter. BTW, you'll probably want to consider
adding Classic Shell to Windows 7 once you get there.


Is that something else or just clicking classic in the personalization
(or whatever). I did do that and things got more familiar. I do have
one machine on 7 now that seems fairly usable for my day to day.
The other 2 are just used as media machines and I don't really do much
else with them. (hooked to TVs)
My problem is the new FF 52.9 still will not stream a lot of stuff. It
was easier to just go dig out the original W/7 drives that were in
them when I got them and boot them up.
I poked around in the alt W/7 group and saw them talking about PC
Mover. Can you really port over all of your XP installed stuff to 7
with that? (assuming it will run on 7) Is there a legacy mode that
will let you run them?
I was really happy that my long lost buddy Attila the Hungarian wrote
his 20th century DOS MP3 player so it would run on 7 without doing
anything extra.
That was just a "copy and run it" thing.


Here is a link for Classic Shell:
http://www.classicshell.net/

When FF fails to work properly on some sites, I fall back to Chrome, which
might work for your streaming issue. There is also the possibility of
needing some additional codec software for FF to enable some better video
playback capabilities, but that can get a bit complicated to track down and
resolve.

PC Mover does let you port your XP stuff over to Windows 7, or at least the
old versions of PC Mover did. Not sure if the latest version does, so you
would have to find an older version on eBay. My guess is the current
version won't, since Laplink most likely doesn't want to "support" XP
transitions anymore.


  #8  
Old May 26th 19, 10:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sun, 26 May 2019 13:52:42 -0600, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 11:02:53 -0600, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

wrote:
I am finally reaching the point that too many things are not
supporting XP and I am moving over to the dark side.
I didn't see a W/7 group anywhere near this one in the list.

If you want, just make sure you're using the latest XP versions of FF
(52.9esr) and Chrome (49.0), and you might get a little more mileage with
XP, in so far as browser limitations are as a limiting factor. Programs
are obviously another matter. BTW, you'll probably want to consider
adding Classic Shell to Windows 7 once you get there.


Is that something else or just clicking classic in the personalization
(or whatever). I did do that and things got more familiar. I do have
one machine on 7 now that seems fairly usable for my day to day.
The other 2 are just used as media machines and I don't really do much
else with them. (hooked to TVs)
My problem is the new FF 52.9 still will not stream a lot of stuff. It
was easier to just go dig out the original W/7 drives that were in
them when I got them and boot them up.
I poked around in the alt W/7 group and saw them talking about PC
Mover. Can you really port over all of your XP installed stuff to 7
with that? (assuming it will run on 7) Is there a legacy mode that
will let you run them?
I was really happy that my long lost buddy Attila the Hungarian wrote
his 20th century DOS MP3 player so it would run on 7 without doing
anything extra.
That was just a "copy and run it" thing.


Here is a link for Classic Shell:
http://www.classicshell.net/

When FF fails to work properly on some sites, I fall back to Chrome, which
might work for your streaming issue. There is also the possibility of
needing some additional codec software for FF to enable some better video
playback capabilities, but that can get a bit complicated to track down and
resolve.

I figured out it was just easier to load 7 on my media machines than
try to jury rig XP to run all of those things that black box and say
"Upgrade your browser".

PC Mover does let you port your XP stuff over to Windows 7, or at least the
old versions of PC Mover did. Not sure if the latest version does, so you
would have to find an older version on eBay. My guess is the current
version won't, since Laplink most likely doesn't want to "support" XP
transitions anymore.

Can't you just have both drives in the machine and let mover move it
.... or use the LAN?
I guess I will have to do more digging on this myself. I just heard
about it today.
  #9  
Old May 26th 19, 10:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill in Co[_3_]
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wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 13:52:42 -0600, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 11:02:53 -0600, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

wrote:
I am finally reaching the point that too many things are not
supporting XP and I am moving over to the dark side.
I didn't see a W/7 group anywhere near this one in the list.

If you want, just make sure you're using the latest XP versions of FF
(52.9esr) and Chrome (49.0), and you might get a little more mileage
with XP, in so far as browser limitations are as a limiting factor.
Programs are obviously another matter. BTW, you'll probably want to
consider adding Classic Shell to Windows 7 once you get there.


Is that something else or just clicking classic in the personalization
(or whatever). I did do that and things got more familiar. I do have
one machine on 7 now that seems fairly usable for my day to day.
The other 2 are just used as media machines and I don't really do much
else with them. (hooked to TVs)
My problem is the new FF 52.9 still will not stream a lot of stuff. It
was easier to just go dig out the original W/7 drives that were in
them when I got them and boot them up.
I poked around in the alt W/7 group and saw them talking about PC
Mover. Can you really port over all of your XP installed stuff to 7
with that? (assuming it will run on 7) Is there a legacy mode that
will let you run them?
I was really happy that my long lost buddy Attila the Hungarian wrote
his 20th century DOS MP3 player so it would run on 7 without doing
anything extra.
That was just a "copy and run it" thing.


Here is a link for Classic Shell:
http://www.classicshell.net/

When FF fails to work properly on some sites, I fall back to Chrome,
which might work for your streaming issue. There is also the
possibility of needing some additional codec software for FF to enable
some better video playback capabilities, but that can get a bit
complicated to track down and resolve.

I figured out it was just easier to load 7 on my media machines than
try to jury rig XP to run all of those things that black box and say
"Upgrade your browser".

PC Mover does let you port your XP stuff over to Windows 7, or at least
the old versions of PC Mover did. Not sure if the latest version does,
so you would have to find an older version on eBay. My guess is the
current version won't, since Laplink most likely doesn't want to
"support" XP transitions anymore.

Can't you just have both drives in the machine and let mover move it
... or use the LAN?
I guess I will have to do more digging on this myself. I just heard
about it today.


PC Mover is in charge of the process, and what it will and will not install
on - it's not a dumb file copy process. The way it worked for me was with
the specially supplied USB cable connecting the two PCs together. The
process took a bit of time (both setting up correctly and running), and
wasn't completely seemless, in that a few apps still had to be "reinstalled"
due to some licensing issues or whatever, but most did not. And keep in
mind it's locked to the original PCs it's installed on. I think you have to
have two separate PC's for it to work. Just go to their web site and read
more about it. I just looked, and it seems the current version can indeed
work on XP (for the source). The user manuals are there too.

https://web.laplink.com/pcmover_feature_overview/


  #10  
Old May 27th 19, 03:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sun, 26 May 2019 15:35:25 -0600, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 13:52:42 -0600, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 11:02:53 -0600, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

wrote:
I am finally reaching the point that too many things are not
supporting XP and I am moving over to the dark side.
I didn't see a W/7 group anywhere near this one in the list.

If you want, just make sure you're using the latest XP versions of FF
(52.9esr) and Chrome (49.0), and you might get a little more mileage
with XP, in so far as browser limitations are as a limiting factor.
Programs are obviously another matter. BTW, you'll probably want to
consider adding Classic Shell to Windows 7 once you get there.


Is that something else or just clicking classic in the personalization
(or whatever). I did do that and things got more familiar. I do have
one machine on 7 now that seems fairly usable for my day to day.
The other 2 are just used as media machines and I don't really do much
else with them. (hooked to TVs)
My problem is the new FF 52.9 still will not stream a lot of stuff. It
was easier to just go dig out the original W/7 drives that were in
them when I got them and boot them up.
I poked around in the alt W/7 group and saw them talking about PC
Mover. Can you really port over all of your XP installed stuff to 7
with that? (assuming it will run on 7) Is there a legacy mode that
will let you run them?
I was really happy that my long lost buddy Attila the Hungarian wrote
his 20th century DOS MP3 player so it would run on 7 without doing
anything extra.
That was just a "copy and run it" thing.

Here is a link for Classic Shell:
http://www.classicshell.net/

When FF fails to work properly on some sites, I fall back to Chrome,
which might work for your streaming issue. There is also the
possibility of needing some additional codec software for FF to enable
some better video playback capabilities, but that can get a bit
complicated to track down and resolve.

I figured out it was just easier to load 7 on my media machines than
try to jury rig XP to run all of those things that black box and say
"Upgrade your browser".

PC Mover does let you port your XP stuff over to Windows 7, or at least
the old versions of PC Mover did. Not sure if the latest version does,
so you would have to find an older version on eBay. My guess is the
current version won't, since Laplink most likely doesn't want to
"support" XP transitions anymore.

Can't you just have both drives in the machine and let mover move it
... or use the LAN?
I guess I will have to do more digging on this myself. I just heard
about it today.


PC Mover is in charge of the process, and what it will and will not install
on - it's not a dumb file copy process. The way it worked for me was with
the specially supplied USB cable connecting the two PCs together. The
process took a bit of time (both setting up correctly and running), and
wasn't completely seemless, in that a few apps still had to be "reinstalled"
due to some licensing issues or whatever, but most did not. And keep in
mind it's locked to the original PCs it's installed on. I think you have to
have two separate PC's for it to work. Just go to their web site and read
more about it. I just looked, and it seems the current version can indeed
work on XP (for the source). The user manuals are there too.

https://web.laplink.com/pcmover_feature_overview/


Thanks I am talking to then now. They are telling me I need the pro
version but they are selling me one for $48
  #11  
Old May 27th 19, 03:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Bill in Co
writes:
wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 11:02:53 -0600, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

wrote:
I am finally reaching the point that too many things are not
supporting XP and I am moving over to the dark side.
I didn't see a W/7 group anywhere near this one in the list.

[]
are obviously another matter. BTW, you'll probably want to consider
adding Classic Shell to Windows 7 once you get there.

+1 on Classic Shell.

Is that something else or just clicking classic in the personalization


Download and run - it's not part of 7, just something written by someone
who got frustrated with the differences. Free (though IIRR he accepts
donations [though development has stopped]; there's another one, called
something like Start8 [often referred to in jest as StarDate], which
costs something like $4.95 - said by most of its users to be better.
I've found Classic Shell sufficient.)

(or whatever). I did do that and things got more familiar. I do have


I think that just affects themes - colour schemes and the like. Lets you
turn off the Aero themes, which some people hate with a passion (the
ones that make your title bars look a bit like fuzzy glass, so you can
see what's behind them); I quite liked them, and only turned them off
because they interfered with something (tooltip background colours [I
have yellow text on brown], IIRR).

one machine on 7 now that seems fairly usable for my day to day.


If you mostly only _run_ things (browser, email, word processor, image
and movie editor/viewer, ...), then what OS is underneath doesn't
impinge on what you're doing much.
[]
I poked around in the alt W/7 group and saw them talking about PC
Mover. Can you really port over all of your XP installed stuff to 7
with that? (assuming it will run on 7) Is there a legacy mode that
will let you run them?


I've not experienced PC Mover, but yes, there is a compatibility mode
you can set - on a per-application basis: "Run as if under ..." (you can
specify Vista, XP, or I think even earlier). It's very much a patch - it
will make _some_ things runnable. By this stage, I've found _most_ of
the software I like (IrfanView, Everything, AVP, Brother's Keeper,
Firefox, Chrome, Office 2003, ...) run fine under 7 anyway; some I had
to find a later version (though none of those listed).
[]
Here is a link for Classic Shell:
http://www.classicshell.net/

When FF fails to work properly on some sites, I fall back to Chrome, which


Me too (and still, under 7, as I like Firefox 27); or, "View | No Style"
often gets round whatever isn't working.
[]
PC Mover does let you port your XP stuff over to Windows 7, or at least the
old versions of PC Mover did. Not sure if the latest version does, so you
would have to find an older version on eBay. My guess is the current
version won't, since Laplink most likely doesn't want to "support" XP
transitions anymore.

Ah, a venerable name: I remember a "laplink cable" being one for
transferring files between two PCs via the parallel ports! (There was
also a serial one, but - in those days - the parallel went a lot more
quickly.)

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Security is the perfect excuse to lock you out of your own computer.
- Mayayana in alt.windows7.general, 2015-12-4
  #12  
Old May 27th 19, 03:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Bill in Co
writes:
[]
I've found many of the alt newsgroups unfortunately filled with trolls.
It's really a pity, but just another sign of the times.

alt.windows7.general so far isn't filled with them. There _are_ one or
two (I think they post here too, at least some of them do), but they're
easily killfiled (apart from one who keeps tweaking his posting identity
- needs a clever kill rule).

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Security is the perfect excuse to lock you out of your own computer.
- Mayayana in alt.windows7.general, 2015-12-4
  #13  
Old May 27th 19, 03:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill in Co[_3_]
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Bill in Co
writes:
[]
I've found many of the alt newsgroups unfortunately filled with trolls.
It's really a pity, but just another sign of the times.

alt.windows7.general so far isn't filled with them. There _are_ one or
two (I think they post here too, at least some of them do), but they're
easily killfiled (apart from one who keeps tweaking his posting identity
- needs a clever kill rule).


I was thinking of some of the science newsgroups that I once frequented. I
think you're right about some of the OS ones.


  #14  
Old May 27th 19, 03:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill in Co[_3_]
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wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 15:35:25 -0600, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 13:52:42 -0600, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 11:02:53 -0600, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

wrote:
I am finally reaching the point that too many things are not
supporting XP and I am moving over to the dark side.
I didn't see a W/7 group anywhere near this one in the list.

If you want, just make sure you're using the latest XP versions of
FF (52.9esr) and Chrome (49.0), and you might get a little more
mileage with XP, in so far as browser limitations are as a limiting
factor. Programs are obviously another matter. BTW, you'll probably
want to consider adding Classic Shell to Windows 7 once you get
there.


Is that something else or just clicking classic in the personalization
(or whatever). I did do that and things got more familiar. I do have
one machine on 7 now that seems fairly usable for my day to day.
The other 2 are just used as media machines and I don't really do much
else with them. (hooked to TVs)
My problem is the new FF 52.9 still will not stream a lot of stuff. It
was easier to just go dig out the original W/7 drives that were in
them when I got them and boot them up.
I poked around in the alt W/7 group and saw them talking about PC
Mover. Can you really port over all of your XP installed stuff to 7
with that? (assuming it will run on 7) Is there a legacy mode that
will let you run them?
I was really happy that my long lost buddy Attila the Hungarian wrote
his 20th century DOS MP3 player so it would run on 7 without doing
anything extra.
That was just a "copy and run it" thing.

Here is a link for Classic Shell:
http://www.classicshell.net/

When FF fails to work properly on some sites, I fall back to Chrome,
which might work for your streaming issue. There is also the
possibility of needing some additional codec software for FF to enable
some better video playback capabilities, but that can get a bit
complicated to track down and resolve.

I figured out it was just easier to load 7 on my media machines than
try to jury rig XP to run all of those things that black box and say
"Upgrade your browser".

PC Mover does let you port your XP stuff over to Windows 7, or at least
the old versions of PC Mover did. Not sure if the latest version does,
so you would have to find an older version on eBay. My guess is the
current version won't, since Laplink most likely doesn't want to
"support" XP transitions anymore.

Can't you just have both drives in the machine and let mover move it
... or use the LAN?
I guess I will have to do more digging on this myself. I just heard
about it today.


PC Mover is in charge of the process, and what it will and will not
install on - it's not a dumb file copy process. The way it worked for
me was with the specially supplied USB cable connecting the two PCs
together. The process took a bit of time (both setting up correctly and
running), and wasn't completely seemless, in that a few apps still had
to be "reinstalled" due to some licensing issues or whatever, but most
did not. And keep in mind it's locked to the original PCs it's
installed on. I think you have to have two separate PC's for it to
work. Just go to their web site and read more about it. I just looked,
and it seems the current version can indeed work on XP (for the source).
The user manuals are there too.

https://web.laplink.com/pcmover_feature_overview/


Thanks I am talking to then now. They are telling me I need the pro
version but they are selling me one for $48


Good. Just be prepared to spend a bit of time being careful in what you
select to move over, when you look at all the program lists (which have
checkboxes). And be sure to set aside enough time to do this whole thing,
like perhaps a couple of hours or so (total time including setup, I mean).
I used the supplied USB 2.0 Laplink cable for the transfer.

In general, I was pretty happy with the results, as there was no way I
wanted to install Windows 7 fresh and start all over again - not with the
abundance of programs I've collected and installed over the past few
decades.


  #15  
Old May 27th 19, 03:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill in Co[_3_]
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Bill in Co
writes:
wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2019 11:02:53 -0600, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote:

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I am finally reaching the point that too many things are not
supporting XP and I am moving over to the dark side.
I didn't see a W/7 group anywhere near this one in the list.

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are obviously another matter. BTW, you'll probably want to consider
adding Classic Shell to Windows 7 once you get there.

+1 on Classic Shell.

Is that something else or just clicking classic in the personalization


Download and run - it's not part of 7, just something written by someone
who got frustrated with the differences. Free (though IIRR he accepts
donations [though development has stopped]; there's another one, called
something like Start8 [often referred to in jest as StarDate], which
costs something like $4.95 - said by most of its users to be better.
I've found Classic Shell sufficient.)

(or whatever). I did do that and things got more familiar. I do have


I think that just affects themes - colour schemes and the like. Lets you
turn off the Aero themes, which some people hate with a passion (the
ones that make your title bars look a bit like fuzzy glass, so you can
see what's behind them); I quite liked them, and only turned them off
because they interfered with something (tooltip background colours [I
have yellow text on brown], IIRR).

one machine on 7 now that seems fairly usable for my day to day.


If you mostly only _run_ things (browser, email, word processor, image
and movie editor/viewer, ...), then what OS is underneath doesn't
impinge on what you're doing much.
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I poked around in the alt W/7 group and saw them talking about PC
Mover. Can you really port over all of your XP installed stuff to 7
with that? (assuming it will run on 7) Is there a legacy mode that
will let you run them?


I've not experienced PC Mover, but yes, there is a compatibility mode
you can set - on a per-application basis: "Run as if under ..." (you can
specify Vista, XP, or I think even earlier). It's very much a patch - it
will make _some_ things runnable. By this stage, I've found _most_ of
the software I like (IrfanView, Everything, AVP, Brother's Keeper,
Firefox, Chrome, Office 2003, ...) run fine under 7 anyway; some I had
to find a later version (though none of those listed).
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Here is a link for Classic Shell:
http://www.classicshell.net/

When FF fails to work properly on some sites, I fall back to Chrome,
which


Me too (and still, under 7, as I like Firefox 27); or, "View | No Style"
often gets round whatever isn't working.
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PC Mover does let you port your XP stuff over to Windows 7, or at least
the old versions of PC Mover did. Not sure if the latest version does,
so you would have to find an older version on eBay. My guess is the
current version won't, since Laplink most likely doesn't want to
"support" XP transitions anymore.

Ah, a venerable name: I remember a "laplink cable" being one for
transferring files between two PCs via the parallel ports! (There was
also a serial one, but - in those days - the parallel went a lot more
quickly.)


It's USB 2.0, or maybe 3.0, now. I can't even imagine doing it with the
serial port, timewise! Yup, that special Laplink cable, with the orange
blob in the middle.

And I think I corrected this to say that PC Mover will indeed work with
Windows XP as the source PC, according to the spec sheet.

The process wasn't perfectly seemless, but pretty close. :-)


 




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