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  #1  
Old March 18th 10, 06:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Default WIA and hibernation again

Jose wrote:

CCleaner is good for this since it shows more information in a bigger
display and CCLeaner has other useful functions you can check out
later. You can uninstall CCleaner later if you don't use it.

Get CCleaner he

http://www.ccleaner.com/

Here is mine:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6...nerstartup.jpg

(snip)
Jose, thanks mucho for all the instructions (which I have
printed out, and snipped). I did CCleaner, and have family
obligations for the next few days and may not get to do what
you asked. But it will be my priority in a few days. Stay loose.
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  #2  
Old March 18th 10, 07:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Posts: 811
Default WIA and hibernation again

William B. Lurie wrote:
Jose wrote:

CCleaner is good for this since it shows more information in a bigger
display and CCLeaner has other useful functions you can check out
later. You can uninstall CCleaner later if you don't use it.

Get CCleaner he

http://www.ccleaner.com/

Here is mine:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6...nerstartup.jpg

(snip)
Jose, thanks mucho for all the instructions (which I have
printed out, and snipped). I did CCleaner, and have family
obligations for the next few days and may not get to do what
you asked. But it will be my priority in a few days. Stay loose.


Jose, I think I got the shots you asked for.
Please check these and let me know if they are useful:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot4.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot5.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot7.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot8.jpg
  #3  
Old March 18th 10, 08:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Posts: 811
Default WIA and hibernation again

William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Jose wrote:

CCleaner is good for this since it shows more information in a bigger
display and CCLeaner has other useful functions you can check out
later. You can uninstall CCleaner later if you don't use it.

Get CCleaner he

http://www.ccleaner.com/

Here is mine:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6...nerstartup.jpg

(snip)
Jose, thanks mucho for all the instructions (which I have
printed out, and snipped). I did CCleaner, and have family
obligations for the next few days and may not get to do what
you asked. But it will be my priority in a few days. Stay loose.


Jose, I think I got the shots you asked for.
Please check these and let me know if they are useful:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot4.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot5.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot7.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot8.jpg


I didn/t ignore your request about Scheduled asks.
There was one back in 2009. The when column reads Never.

I use Gadwin to make screen shots. Can be .bmp .jpg or .gif.
Let me know if you could read mine.
  #4  
Old March 18th 10, 09:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Jose
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Default WIA and hibernation again

On Mar 18, 3:39*pm, "William B. Lurie" wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Jose wrote:


CCleaner is good for this since it shows more information in a bigger
display and CCLeaner has other useful functions you can check out
later. *You can uninstall CCleaner later if you don't use it.


Get CCleaner he


http://www.ccleaner.com/


Here is mine:


http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6...nerstartup.jpg
(snip)
Jose, thanks mucho for all the instructions (which I have
printed out, and snipped). I did CCleaner, and have family
obligations for the next few days and may not get to do what
you asked. But it will be my priority in a few days. Stay loose.


Jose, I think I got the shots you asked for.
Please check these and let me know if they are useful:


http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot4.jpg


http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot5.jpg


http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot7.jpg


http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot8.jpg


I didn/t ignore your request about Scheduled asks.
There was one back in 2009. The when column reads Never.

I use Gadwin to make screen shots. Can be .bmp *.jpg *or .gif.
Let me know if you could read mine.


I can see them just fine. I would like to get a CClearner shot though
when you have time.

William B Lurie - you have a lot of things running. You should get
yourself a boring system like mine.

I am going to have to noodle out an understandable strategy and with
your 2 hour wait and see if I can Hibernate setting, figuring it out
could take a lot of clock time - waiting. When it does work, I don't
want to be anywhere around for my personal safety.

Or, switch to one hour!

  #5  
Old March 18th 10, 09:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Posts: 811
Default WIA and hibernation again

Jose wrote:
On Mar 18, 3:39 pm, "William B. Lurie" wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Jose wrote:
CCleaner is good for this since it shows more information in a bigger
display and CCLeaner has other useful functions you can check out
later. You can uninstall CCleaner later if you don't use it.
Get CCleaner he
http://www.ccleaner.com/
Here is mine:
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6...nerstartup.jpg
(snip)
Jose, thanks mucho for all the instructions (which I have
printed out, and snipped). I did CCleaner, and have family
obligations for the next few days and may not get to do what
you asked. But it will be my priority in a few days. Stay loose.
Jose, I think I got the shots you asked for.
Please check these and let me know if they are useful:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot4.jpg
http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot5.jpg
http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot7.jpg
http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot8.jpg

I didn/t ignore your request about Scheduled asks.
There was one back in 2009. The when column reads Never.

I use Gadwin to make screen shots. Can be .bmp .jpg or .gif.
Let me know if you could read mine.


I can see them just fine. I would like to get a CClearner shot though
when you have time.

William B Lurie - you have a lot of things running. You should get
yourself a boring system like mine.

I am going to have to noodle out an understandable strategy and with
your 2 hour wait and see if I can Hibernate setting, figuring it out
could take a lot of clock time - waiting. When it does work, I don't
want to be anywhere around for my personal safety.

Or, switch to one hour!

I ran CCleaner after I downloaded and installed it. It removed
120 MB of trash. Is there something more I should do? I will
have time sporadically.

Switching to one hour might be the practical engineer's solution,
but the scientist wants to know *why*.
  #6  
Old March 18th 10, 10:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Jose
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Posts: 3,140
Default WIA and hibernation again

On Mar 18, 4:31*pm, "William B. Lurie" wrote:
Jose wrote:
On Mar 18, 3:39 pm, "William B. Lurie" wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
Jose wrote:
CCleaner is good for this since it shows more information in a bigger
display and CCLeaner has other useful functions you can check out
later. *You can uninstall CCleaner later if you don't use it.
Get CCleaner he
http://www.ccleaner.com/
Here is mine:
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6...nerstartup.jpg
(snip)
Jose, thanks mucho for all the instructions (which I have
printed out, and snipped). I did CCleaner, and have family
obligations for the next few days and may not get to do what
you asked. But it will be my priority in a few days. Stay loose.
Jose, I think I got the shots you asked for.
Please check these and let me know if they are useful:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot4.jpg
http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot5.jpg
http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot7.jpg
http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/shot8.jpg
I didn/t ignore your request about Scheduled asks.
There was one back in 2009. The when column reads Never.


I use Gadwin to make screen shots. Can be .bmp *.jpg *or .gif.
Let me know if you could read mine.


I can see them just fine. *I would like to get a CClearner shot though
when you have time.


William B Lurie - you have a lot of things running. *You should get
yourself a boring system like mine.


I am going to have to noodle out an understandable strategy and with
your 2 hour wait and see if I can Hibernate setting, figuring it out
could take a lot of clock time - waiting. *When it does work, I don't
want to be anywhere around for my personal safety.


Or, switch to one hour!


I ran CCleaner after I downloaded and installed it. It removed
120 MB of trash. Is there something more I should do? I will
have time sporadically.

Switching to one hour might be the practical engineer's solution,
but the scientist wants to know *why*.


I posted how to collect the Startup info from CCleaner and an
example. It is just easier to read.

Being a Hibernator myself, I would be curious to know why you wait 2
hours. It should work of course (as far as I know), but that is a
long time.

Are you thinking that you might miss something - an incoming message
of some sort, a Skype call, etc.

I want to know what the problem is too and if I had it, I would really
try to fix it, but you have a lot of stuff running and trying to sort
it out to which item might be checking for something to do every hour
will take either a process of elimination (disable some, wait, disable
more, wait, eetc.) trial and error or researching every item you have
running. Not impossible, but time consuming.

There is no way I am going to install all that stuff to try it. As
some other poster says:

In theory, your system should be fine with zero startup items. Take a
look at my CCleaner startup and Task Manager. But my computer life on
this box is very calm!

If you disable all the Startup items in msconfig, you may not be able
to do some things, missing some items in your system try for a while
when you are testing with the programs not loaded, but you could
disable them all, reboot then see what happens in two hours. You may
get some complaining messages, but does hibernate work now? If it
still doesn't work, we will know it is something else and can look
elsewhere.

Right now I see you can disable realsched, Reader_sl, ctfmon (unless
you are using a multilingual interface), dumprep, ACLMTR, STTask,
VProTray to start. You don't "need" them to survive and they are not
your hibernation problem (I don't think) but they are things you can
eliminate from the equation - at least temporarily. Then you will
have 7 less possibilities - but it will take you 2 hours to find out.
If it doesn't work, do some more.

Plus you have a pesky empty Startup item and we can fix that easily
later.

Let's say you just disable 5 and test. No good? Do 5 more and test
again. Works now? Turn 1 of the last 5 on and test again. Sooner or
later (hours later), you will find the culprit. Maybe you can Google
(yes it is now an official verb in the English language) the items to
help you see what they do, if they are on some auto update/check thing
and if you can do without them - at least for testing.

You have many, many variables and the process of elimination may take
less time than researching individual items to find out what they do.
When you find the one that prevents hibernation, research that one and
figure out if you can change it. If you can't figure out what it is,
figure out what it's not.

  #7  
Old March 19th 10, 12:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Default WIA and hibernation again



Let's say you just disable 5 and test. No good? Do 5 more and test
again. Works now? Turn 1 of the last 5 on and test again. Sooner or
later (hours later), you will find the culprit. Maybe you can Google
(yes it is now an official verb in the English language) the items to
help you see what they do, if they are on some auto update/check thing
and if you can do without them - at least for testing.

You have many, many variables and the process of elimination may take
less time than researching individual items to find out what they do.
When you find the one that prevents hibernation, research that one and
figure out if you can change it. If you can't figure out what it is,
figure out what it's not.

Jose, my work on this will continue but very sporadic until
after Sunday, because we have a daughter and 30-year old granddaughter
visiting us and sharing the computer until then. Your advice is sound
and welcome and I started with the 7 you listed, overnight, taking
them out of startup. Was no help. But I'll be back.

I like to snip off a bunch of older stuff, so if anybody objects,
let me know.
  #8  
Old March 19th 10, 01:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Posts: 811
Default WIA and hibernation again

William B. Lurie wrote:


Let's say you just disable 5 and test. No good? Do 5 more and test
again. Works now? Turn 1 of the last 5 on and test again. Sooner or
later (hours later), you will find the culprit. Maybe you can Google
(yes it is now an official verb in the English language) the items to
help you see what they do, if they are on some auto update/check thing
and if you can do without them - at least for testing.

You have many, many variables and the process of elimination may take
less time than researching individual items to find out what they do.
When you find the one that prevents hibernation, research that one and
figure out if you can change it. If you can't figure out what it is,
figure out what it's not.

Jose, my work on this will continue but very sporadic until
after Sunday, because we have a daughter and 30-year old granddaughter
visiting us and sharing the computer until then. Your advice is sound
and welcome and I started with the 7 you listed, overnight, taking
them out of startup. Was no help. But I'll be back.

I like to snip off a bunch of older stuff, so if anybody objects,
let me know.


Continuing on, since the computer is available, I have disabled many
of the items, leaving only 3 questionable "user" items in the
TaskManager list. I have to track down, for one thing, why
RealSched keeps coming back onto the startup list even when I
uncheck it. Not vital, because for the 2-hour test, I can just
delete it from RAM.

There is RTHDCPL.EXE which is some kind of Windows Audio program
which I can uncheck for these tests.

And there is RecGuard which also keeps coming back when I uncheck it.
Maybe you can advise me on those. Anyway, I still have a running system
with darn near everything that is "Compaq User" and suspicious in the
Task List, unchecked and not in RAM
  #9  
Old March 19th 10, 02:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Posts: 811
Default WIA and hibernation again

William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:


Let's say you just disable 5 and test. No good? Do 5 more and test
again. Works now? Turn 1 of the last 5 on and test again. Sooner or
later (hours later), you will find the culprit. Maybe you can Google
(yes it is now an official verb in the English language) the items to
help you see what they do, if they are on some auto update/check thing
and if you can do without them - at least for testing.

You have many, many variables and the process of elimination may take
less time than researching individual items to find out what they do.
When you find the one that prevents hibernation, research that one and
figure out if you can change it. If you can't figure out what it is,
figure out what it's not.

Jose, my work on this will continue but very sporadic until
after Sunday, because we have a daughter and 30-year old granddaughter
visiting us and sharing the computer until then. Your advice is sound
and welcome and I started with the 7 you listed, overnight, taking
them out of startup. Was no help. But I'll be back.

I like to snip off a bunch of older stuff, so if anybody objects,
let me know.


Continuing on, since the computer is available, I have disabled many
of the items, leaving only 3 questionable "user" items in the
TaskManager list. I have to track down, for one thing, why
RealSched keeps coming back onto the startup list even when I
uncheck it. Not vital, because for the 2-hour test, I can just
delete it from RAM.

There is RTHDCPL.EXE which is some kind of Windows Audio program
which I can uncheck for these tests.

And there is RecGuard which also keeps coming back when I uncheck it.
Maybe you can advise me on those. Anyway, I still have a running system
with darn near everything that is "Compaq User" and suspicious in the
Task List, unchecked and not in RAM.


And further!!!!
ISUSPM.exe and ISSCH.EXE ...
Install Shield Update Service!!! And Scheduler!!!!
It obviously runs without being asked to by *me*.
I have searched but can't find out what the built-in parameters are.
Maybe one of them runs every hour!!!!
Anybody got any suggestions of built-in, hard-wired
'helpful' programs, like these, that maybe run every hour?
  #10  
Old March 19th 10, 06:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Bill P[_3_]
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Posts: 99
Default WIA and hibernation again

"Purpose of this file:
Isuspm.exe is a program which may have been installed by you when you
installed other software programs. The actual disk location is shown below
for you, so you can always verify the location of the file to make sure it
is not spyware or adware, as the file should be located in the proper folder
and not elsewhere. This is a program which is from a company called
Macrovision. The purpose of this isuspm.exe software program is to check for
the latest updates from Macrovision products. This can be removed from your
startup if you wish to check for updates yourself manually. This file is
considered safe and is not considered spyware, adware, or virus related.
Visit isuspm.exe for complete information on this task or process. If you
would like help on other tasks or processes, you can view the entire process
and task directory here.

What is the isuspm.exe location, where is it stored on my computer?
This file will be found on your hard drive at
C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\INSTAL~1\UPDATE~1\ISUSPM.exe "



"Purpose of this file:
Issch.exe is a program that part of an installshield utility. The exact disk
location where it should be stored on your computer is also shown below to
verify it is not spyware, as many spyware programs use similar names and
just locate them elsewhere on your hard drive. Always check the proper disk
location of your programs if you are concerned that they may be spyware or
virus. This issch.exe programs purpose is to keep the software up to date.
Basically it checks for new versions and is not necessary to always run in
your system startup. This file is considered safe and is not spyware or
adware related. Visit issch.exe for complete information on this task or
process. If you would like help on other tasks or processes, you can view
the entire process and task directory here.

What is the issch.exe location, where is it stored on my computer?
This file will be found on your hard drive at
C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\INSTAL~1\UPDATE~1\issch.exe "

Just some info that Google threw up.



And further!!!!
ISUSPM.exe and ISSCH.EXE ...
Install Shield Update Service!!! And Scheduler!!!!
It obviously runs without being asked to by *me*.
I have searched but can't find out what the built-in parameters are.
Maybe one of them runs every hour!!!!
Anybody got any suggestions of built-in, hard-wired
'helpful' programs, like these, that maybe run every hour?



  #11  
Old March 19th 10, 06:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Posts: 811
Default WIA and hibernation again

Bill P wrote:
"Purpose of this file:
Isuspm.exe is a program which may have been installed by you when you
installed other software programs. The actual disk location is shown below
for you, so you can always verify the location of the file to make sure it
is not spyware or adware, as the file should be located in the proper folder
and not elsewhere. This is a program which is from a company called
Macrovision. The purpose of this isuspm.exe software program is to check for
the latest updates from Macrovision products. This can be removed from your
startup if you wish to check for updates yourself manually. This file is
considered safe and is not considered spyware, adware, or virus related.
Visit isuspm.exe for complete information on this task or process. If you
would like help on other tasks or processes, you can view the entire process
and task directory here.

What is the isuspm.exe location, where is it stored on my computer?
This file will be found on your hard drive at
C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\INSTAL~1\UPDATE~1\ISUSPM.exe "



"Purpose of this file:
Issch.exe is a program that part of an installshield utility. The exact disk
location where it should be stored on your computer is also shown below to
verify it is not spyware, as many spyware programs use similar names and
just locate them elsewhere on your hard drive. Always check the proper disk
location of your programs if you are concerned that they may be spyware or
virus. This issch.exe programs purpose is to keep the software up to date.
Basically it checks for new versions and is not necessary to always run in
your system startup. This file is considered safe and is not spyware or
adware related. Visit issch.exe for complete information on this task or
process. If you would like help on other tasks or processes, you can view
the entire process and task directory here.

What is the issch.exe location, where is it stored on my computer?
This file will be found on your hard drive at
C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\INSTAL~1\UPDATE~1\issch.exe "

Just some info that Google threw up.



And further!!!!
ISUSPM.exe and ISSCH.EXE ...
Install Shield Update Service!!! And Scheduler!!!!
It obviously runs without being asked to by *me*.
I have searched but can't find out what the built-in parameters are.
Maybe one of them runs every hour!!!!
Anybody got any suggestions of built-in, hard-wired
'helpful' programs, like these, that maybe run every hour?



Thank you, Bill.

These two say they do updating and scheduling, and it is
just such intrusion that I'm trying to track down.
Even though it is a .exe, and they cleaim info is available
there, I can't manage to extract any. Maybe if I go to their
source, Macrovision.....
  #12  
Old March 19th 10, 08:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Bill P[_3_]
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Posts: 99
Default WIA and hibernation again


"William B. Lurie" wrote in message
...
Bill P wrote:
"Purpose of this file:
Isuspm.exe is a program which may have been installed by you when you
installed other software programs. The actual disk location is shown
below for you, so you can always verify the location of the file to make
sure it is not spyware or adware, as the file should be located in the
proper folder and not elsewhere. This is a program which is from a
company called Macrovision. The purpose of this isuspm.exe software
program is to check for the latest updates from Macrovision products.
This can be removed from your startup if you wish to check for updates
yourself manually. This file is considered safe and is not considered
spyware, adware, or virus related. Visit isuspm.exe for complete
information on this task or process. If you would like help on other
tasks or processes, you can view the entire process and task directory
here.

What is the isuspm.exe location, where is it stored on my computer?
This file will be found on your hard drive at
C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\INSTAL~1\UPDATE~1\ISUSPM.exe "



"Purpose of this file:
Issch.exe is a program that part of an installshield utility. The exact
disk location where it should be stored on your computer is also shown
below to verify it is not spyware, as many spyware programs use similar
names and just locate them elsewhere on your hard drive. Always check the
proper disk location of your programs if you are concerned that they may
be spyware or virus. This issch.exe programs purpose is to keep the
software up to date. Basically it checks for new versions and is not
necessary to always run in your system startup. This file is considered
safe and is not spyware or adware related. Visit issch.exe for complete
information on this task or process. If you would like help on other
tasks or processes, you can view the entire process and task directory
here.

What is the issch.exe location, where is it stored on my computer?
This file will be found on your hard drive at
C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\INSTAL~1\UPDATE~1\issch.exe "

Just some info that Google threw up.



And further!!!!
ISUSPM.exe and ISSCH.EXE ...
Install Shield Update Service!!! And Scheduler!!!!
It obviously runs without being asked to by *me*.
I have searched but can't find out what the built-in parameters are.
Maybe one of them runs every hour!!!!
Anybody got any suggestions of built-in, hard-wired
'helpful' programs, like these, that maybe run every hour?



Thank you, Bill.

These two say they do updating and scheduling, and it is
just such intrusion that I'm trying to track down.
Even though it is a .exe, and they cleaim info is available
there, I can't manage to extract any. Maybe if I go to their
source, Macrovision.....


And they can both be stopped from running in your startup system.


  #13  
Old March 20th 10, 03:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Posts: 811
Default WIA and hibernation again

Bill P wrote:
"William B. Lurie" wrote in message
...
Bill P wrote:
"Purpose of this file:
Isuspm.exe is a program which may have been installed by you when you
installed other software programs. The actual disk location is shown
below for you, so you can always verify the location of the file to make
sure it is not spyware or adware, as the file should be located in the
proper folder and not elsewhere. This is a program which is from a
company called Macrovision. The purpose of this isuspm.exe software
program is to check for the latest updates from Macrovision products.
This can be removed from your startup if you wish to check for updates
yourself manually. This file is considered safe and is not considered
spyware, adware, or virus related. Visit isuspm.exe for complete
information on this task or process. If you would like help on other
tasks or processes, you can view the entire process and task directory
here.

What is the isuspm.exe location, where is it stored on my computer?
This file will be found on your hard drive at
C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\INSTAL~1\UPDATE~1\ISUSPM.exe "



"Purpose of this file:
Issch.exe is a program that part of an installshield utility. The exact
disk location where it should be stored on your computer is also shown
below to verify it is not spyware, as many spyware programs use similar
names and just locate them elsewhere on your hard drive. Always check the
proper disk location of your programs if you are concerned that they may
be spyware or virus. This issch.exe programs purpose is to keep the
software up to date. Basically it checks for new versions and is not
necessary to always run in your system startup. This file is considered
safe and is not spyware or adware related. Visit issch.exe for complete
information on this task or process. If you would like help on other
tasks or processes, you can view the entire process and task directory
here.

What is the issch.exe location, where is it stored on my computer?
This file will be found on your hard drive at
C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\INSTAL~1\UPDATE~1\issch.exe "

Just some info that Google threw up.



And further!!!!
ISUSPM.exe and ISSCH.EXE ...
Install Shield Update Service!!! And Scheduler!!!!
It obviously runs without being asked to by *me*.
I have searched but can't find out what the built-in parameters are.
Maybe one of them runs every hour!!!!
Anybody got any suggestions of built-in, hard-wired
'helpful' programs, like these, that maybe run every hour?


Thank you, Bill.

These two say they do updating and scheduling, and it is
just such intrusion that I'm trying to track down.
Even though it is a .exe, and they cleaim info is available
there, I can't manage to extract any. Maybe if I go to their
source, Macrovision.....


And they can both be stopped from running in your startup system.


No, Bill....Macrovision (to me) was a dead end.
And I can't stop them from running in the startup program. It's
half a day later, but I couldn't do anything with them. Tried to run
them manually from command prompt and couldn't. But see below.
Maybe Tcpip is leading somewhere.
  #14  
Old March 20th 10, 03:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
William B. Lurie
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Default WIA and hibernation again

Jose wrote:
(snip)
Let's say you just disable 5 and test. No good? Do 5 more and test
again. Works now? Turn 1 of the last 5 on and test again. Sooner or
later (hours later), you will find the culprit. Maybe you can Google
(yes it is now an official verb in the English language) the items to
help you see what they do, if they are on some auto update/check thing
and if you can do without them - at least for testing.

You have many, many variables and the process of elimination may take
less time than researching individual items to find out what they do.
When you find the one that prevents hibernation, research that one and
figure out if you can change it. If you can't figure out what it is,
figure out what it's not.

Jose, I stripped everything out of the TaskList, that had
"Compaq-Owner", except for what I feel is one HP necessity.
And my StartupList I cleared out, too. See these:

Event Type: Information
Event Source: Tcpip
Event Category: None
Event ID: 4201
Date: 3/19/2010
Time: 4:27:51 PM
User: N/A
Computer: COMPAQ-2006
Description:
The system detected that network adapter
\DEVICE\TCPIP_{D5E50A75-4A1C-4421-A5B4-569C9FE131B8} was connected to
the network, and has initiated normal operation over the network adapter.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 00 00 00 00 02 00 50 00 ......P.
0008: 00 00 00 00 69 10 00 40 ....i..@
0010: 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

What happens every hour is identified.

Now look at the Task Manager.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/taskmgr1.jpg

What next?
  #15  
Old March 20th 10, 03:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Jose
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Posts: 3,140
Default WIA and hibernation again

On Mar 19, 9:31*am, "William B. Lurie" wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:


Let's say you just disable 5 and test. *No good? *Do 5 more and test
again. *Works now? *Turn 1 of the last 5 on and test again. *Sooner or
later (hours later), you will find the culprit. *Maybe you can Google
(yes it is now an official verb in the English language) the items to
help you see what they do, if they are on some auto update/check thing
and if you can do without them - at least for testing.


You have many, many variables and the process of elimination may take
less time than researching individual items to find out what they do.
When you find the one that prevents hibernation, research that one and
figure out if you can change it. *If you can't figure out what it is,
figure out what it's not.


Jose, my work on this will continue but very sporadic until
after Sunday, because we have a daughter and 30-year old granddaughter
visiting us and sharing the computer until then. Your advice is sound
and welcome and I started with the 7 *you listed, overnight, taking
them out of startup. Was no help. But I'll be back.


I like to snip off a bunch of older stuff, so if anybody objects,
let me know.


Continuing on, since the computer is available, I have disabled many
of the items, leaving only 3 questionable "user" items in the
TaskManager list. I have to track down, for one thing, why
RealSched keeps coming back onto the startup list even when I
uncheck it. Not vital, because for the 2-hour test, I can just
delete it from RAM.


There is RTHDCPL.EXE which is some kind of Windows Audio program
which I can uncheck for these tests.


And there is RecGuard which also keeps coming back when I uncheck it.
Maybe you can advise me on those. Anyway, I still have a running system
with darn near everything that is "Compaq User" and suspicious in the
Task List, unchecked and not in RAM.


And further!!!!
ISUSPM.exe and ISSCH.EXE ...
Install Shield Update Service!!! And Scheduler!!!!
It obviously runs without being asked to by *me*.
I have searched but can't find out what the built-in parameters are.
Maybe one of them runs every hour!!!!
Anybody got any suggestions of built-in, hard-wired
'helpful' programs, like these, that maybe run every hour?


Uncheck ISUSPM - that is the InstallShield stuff which does want to
run and look for updates periodically. It is configurable, but wants
to look once a day. That could mean after 1 hour of idle, it checks.
You can change it, but I would uninstall it, but you will have to look
for it yourself to see how to do these things. Look in Add/Remove
Programs.

Reboot and if those processes are still running in TM, terminate them.

Where is that CCcleaner Startup screenshot!?
 




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