Fully (?) Functional

"TW700": Sixty bucks at Micro Center.... impulse buy... couldn't pass it
up.

Surprisingly functional... Only a gig of RAM, but Windows 8 runs and it
takes a micro SD card.... BlueTooth, WiFi, charges via micro USB... the
whole nine yards.


But it always opens windows maximized.

I guess somebody thought they were doing a favor for 7" tablet users,
but I'd like to change it.

Lots of Google hits on "Remember Window Size"... but the ones I've tried
do not seem to apply.

Anybody got an idea?
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Pete Cresswell

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"(PeteCresswell)" writes
"TW700": Sixty bucks at Micro Center.... impulse buy... couldn't pass it
up.

Surprisingly functional... Only a gig of RAM, but Windows 8 runs and it
takes a micro SD card.... BlueTooth, WiFi, charges via micro USB... the
whole nine yards.


But it always opens windows maximized.

I guess somebody thought they were doing a favor for 7" tablet users,
but I'd like to change it.

Lots of Google hits on "Remember Window Size"... but the ones I've tried
do not seem to apply.

Anybody got an idea?

No idea how to change this, but am very interested in comparing notes
with my "Linx" tablet which sounds like the 10" version of the same
device.

Mine does open Windows at the size they closed, so maybe it is a 7"
"Feature".

What I'm intrigued to know is how it uses the main drive. Mine has the
32GB ssd, with 6GB reserved for the recovery partition. The recovery
partition is used to decompress to provide much of the OS.
This leaves 24GB for the rest of the OS and programs, of which 19GB was
free when new. Now after a week or two of very light use, I'm down to
15.4GB free and paranoid about installing much in the way of programs.

A real working W7 laptop here has a Users directory of approx 28GB.
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Bill

PeteCresswell wrote:

bought Windows 8
Surprisingly functional...
But it always opens windows maximized.
Googled on "Remember Window Size"... the ones tried didn't work

As I recall from past discussions of similar problems in past versions
of Windows, users had maximimzed or fullscreened the app's window. It
was not sized to less than maximized or fullscreen to then remember that
less-than-max/full size when the app got reloaded. If an app is closed
with its window maximized or fullscreened then that's the size reused
when the app's window is next opened. The app's window had to be closed
when it was less than maximized or not fullscreened. That meant
restoring the window's prior size or getting out of fullscreened view
before closing the app.

Use the window's Restore toolbar button or right-click on the taskbar
button to restore the app's window (to something less than maximized).
Make sure not to close the window when it was still fullscreened.

Was the above one of the unmentioned various solutions you tried before
from your Google searching? I cannot guarantee a non-duplicated
suggestion that you already tried but did not mention.

(PeteCresswell) wrote:
"TW700": Sixty bucks at Micro Center.... impulse buy... couldn't pass it
up.

Surprisingly functional... Only a gig of RAM, but Windows 8 runs and it
takes a micro SD card.... BlueTooth, WiFi, charges via micro USB... the
whole nine yards.


But it always opens windows maximized.

I guess somebody thought they were doing a favor for 7" tablet users,
but I'd like to change it.

Lots of Google hits on "Remember Window Size"... but the ones I've tried
do not seem to apply.

Anybody got an idea?


http://www.microcenter.com/product/4...Tablet_-_Black

HD IPS LCD 7" 1280x800 Display

It's below the 1366 pixel width needed for split screen.
It's above the 1024x768 minimum for Windows 8.

That may be an incentive for applications to open full screen.
For Metro applications.

For your regular desktop applications, you can try resizing.
Download a copy of desktop Firefox from mozilla.org, if you
don't have anything else to test with.

Paul

Per Bill:
What I'm intrigued to know is how it uses the main drive. Mine has the
32GB ssd, with 6GB reserved for the recovery partition. The recovery
partition is used to decompress to provide much of the OS.
This leaves 24GB for the rest of the OS and programs, of which 19GB was
free when new. Now after a week or two of very light use, I'm down to
15.4GB free and paranoid about installing much in the way of programs.

My SSD looks to be something like 16 gigs, 8.77 of which is available,
5.57 allocated as a recovery partition, and 100 megs as "EFI
something-or-other".

With no installs by Yours Truly, I have 3.83 gigs left on C:.

I added a 32-gig micro SD card and am doing all my installs to it.

The touch characteristics of the screen are noticeably inferior to my
$500 Samsung 10" tablet but geeze... this thing only cost sixty bucks
and it actually works. I am impressed - if only by those two
facts....and it seems to speak well for the immediate future of these
things.

FWIW, I put SageTV Client on it and it seems to be fully functional in
rendering recorded TV and movies. Have not bought a micro HDMI cable
yet, so I don't know if it will render more than 1280x800 on my TV. If
it will do 1920x1080, that would be a big deal because it would make it
a workable replacement for the now-defunct SageTV media extenders.
--
Pete Cresswell

Per VanguardLH:

Was the above one of the unmentioned various solutions you tried before
from your Google searching? I cannot guarantee a non-duplicated
suggestion that you already tried but did not mention.

Was not... but it does not seem to apply in this case.
--
Pete Cresswell

Per (PeteCresswell):
Anybody got an idea?

Got it.

"ShellFolderFix" - 32-bit version: http://tinyurl.com/l2trzbk
--
Pete Cresswell

(PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per (PeteCresswell):
Anybody got an idea?

Got it.

"ShellFolderFix" - 32-bit version: http://tinyurl.com/l2trzbk

Can you elaborate on what this does ?

I thought that was for fixing some sort of
Explorer file manager issues.

Paul

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"(PeteCresswell)" writes
My SSD looks to be something like 16 gigs, 8.77 of which is available,
5.57 allocated as a recovery partition, and 100 megs as "EFI
something-or-other".

With no installs by Yours Truly, I have 3.83 gigs left on C:.

I added a 32-gig micro SD card and am doing all my installs to it.

The touch characteristics of the screen are noticeably inferior to my
$500 Samsung 10" tablet but geeze... this thing only cost sixty bucks
and it actually works. I am impressed - if only by those two
facts....and it seems to speak well for the immediate future of these
things.

I have been wondering whether there would be any future in trying to
mount the micro-SD card as a file rather than leaving it as a separate
partition. I suppose it would not make any difference.
I bought a couple of 32-gig cards, and will try installing some
different programs on the second one. I'm not sure whether this would be
a problem because of the way Microsoft entwines the user directories and
registry.

As I understand it, all updates will sit there uncompressed, and that
could eat into the free space in the longer term.

I bought my 10" similar device in the UK for 80ukp, which includes the
20% tax, and it is similarly impressive. I can't say I like Windows 8.1
all that much as a pure tablet OS - I keep having to drop into the
desktop and my fingers are too big.
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Bill

Per Bill:
As I understand it, all updates will sit there uncompressed, and that
could eat into the free space in the longer term.

I foolishly went ahead and told Windows Update to do it's thing with
something like 55 updates before taking an image of it.

The table was unavailable for at least an hour and the updates ate about
2 gigs of space.

Right now, after applying the "WBOptimize.exe" utility downloaded from
Micro Center, I have 3 gigs (actually 2.98) available on C:.

I would say that my device would be doomed if I were to allow MS to keep
applying Windows Updates.

Also, I find that even when I do an install to D:, it still eats a
little bit of the System drive's space.
--
Pete Cresswell

Per Paul:
"ShellFolderFix" - 32-bit version: http://tinyurl.com/l2trzbk

Can you elaborate on what this does ?

It loads itself at boot time and automagically remembers the size and
location of each folder opened under Windows Explorer. When the same
folder is opened again, it comes up sized and positioned as it was when
it was last closed.

The TW700 is slow enough that I can see the folder coming up maximized
and then being sized down as ShellFolderFix kicks in. It's only a
blink of an eye... but I can see it.... totally transparent/invisible on
my desktop machine.

If you install it, just be sure to choose the 32-bit version.
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Pete Cresswell

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"(PeteCresswell)" writes
I foolishly went ahead and told Windows Update to do it's thing with
something like 55 updates before taking an image of it.

Assuming it's like mine you should be able to get to the recovery
section in PC Settings, where it is implied that one can set the machine
back to initial factory state.

I haven't yet been brave enough to try it.

This feature also shows up on a W8.1 laptop where the Recovery partition
is, I believe, still W7.

I actually have a few laptops where I think the recovery partition
doesn't match the current OS. Is there an easy way of interrogating the
contents to see which OS would be recovered if I hit the magic button?
--
Bill

4Per Bill:
Assuming it's like mine you should be able to get to the recovery
section in PC Settings, where it is implied that one can set the machine
back to initial factory state.

I haven't yet been brave enough to try it.

I don't want to go there either.

Apparently they do something that I do not think I understand where
files in the "Recovery" partition are also used by the system when it is
running. Supposedly this is to save space.

Got my three little gigs.... and too many man hours that would be lost
if I reverted to "Factory". I'll do it if push comes to shove, but not
just on GPs.

I'm waiting for the YouTube vids to start coming out on how to replace
the 16-gig SD with something bigger.
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Pete Cresswell

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"(PeteCresswell)" writes
Got my three little gigs....

Well, I thought I would do a little experiment.
Switched on my tablet and saw that it had 8 updates available.
Went to properties of the C: drive and snipped the properties Window.
Hit the update button and allowed it to update. Went to C: properties
and snipped the Window.
Compared use of drive before and after.
Pre 8 691 347 456
Post 8 671 760 384
which is not at all what I expected.

I then started to wonder whether the tablet might have initially
downloaded but not installed the updates. It had been set to auto-update
before this, but the first usage was noted very shortly after being
switched on.

I suppose I'll have to try again next time with auto update off.

Maybe Microsoft is somehow managing these updates or maybe the
Malicious Software Tool found some malicious software to delete.

In "Normal" W 8.1, are the KB updates retained on the machine after
being applied and, if so, where?

--
Bill

On 1/17/2015 8:53 AM, Bill wrote:
In message ,
"(PeteCresswell)" writes
Got my three little gigs....

Well, I thought I would do a little experiment.
Switched on my tablet and saw that it had 8 updates available.
Went to properties of the C: drive and snipped the properties Window.
Hit the update button and allowed it to update. Went to C: properties
and snipped the Window.
Compared use of drive before and after.
Pre 8 691 347 456
Post 8 671 760 384
which is not at all what I expected.

I then started to wonder whether the tablet might have initially
downloaded but not installed the updates. It had been set to auto-update
before this, but the first usage was noted very shortly after being
switched on.

I suppose I'll have to try again next time with auto update off.

Maybe Microsoft is somehow managing these updates or maybe the
Malicious Software Tool found some malicious software to delete.

In "Normal" W 8.1, are the KB updates retained on the machine after
being applied and, if so, where?


Some of that overhead is temporary files, created to store the previous
version of the updates. This allows you to go back to the old version,
if necessary.

Supposedly Windows 8.1 removes these files when you clean old files from
the disk. (Right click on the C drive in File Explorer, Click Disk
Cleanup, Make sure you include the system files which is another check
later in the operation.)

The same thing happens in older version of windows, and there are
programs to remove these old files.

If you don't removing them they just keep accumulating taking up disk
spac. If you have never run Disk Cleanup you could remove many
megabytes of obsolete files.