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Dell computer with no input (now CD writing speed)
On 02 Dec 2017, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in alt.windows7.general: I would disagree: the media is designed such that, up to a certain speed, it will work with an acceptable number of errors - i. e. if you try to use it above that speed, you're on your own. But I don't think that means it is _best_ at that speed, only that it will probably _work_ at that speed (because people want high speeds). I still think slower will make a better burn - sharper edges between burn and no burn, deeper blacks (or whatever) in the burns. All I can say after burning many hundreds of CDRs and DVDrs over the the years, I've never noticed any disavantage to burning at the highest rated speed or advantage to burning at a lower speed. I get the same percentage of good or bad burns either way. |
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Dell computer with no input (now CD writing speed)
On 12/02/2017 5:22 PM, Nil wrote:
On 02 Dec 2017, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in alt.windows7.general: I would disagree: the media is designed such that, up to a certain speed, it will work with an acceptable number of errors - i. e. if you try to use it above that speed, you're on your own. But I don't think that means it is _best_ at that speed, only that it will probably _work_ at that speed (because people want high speeds). I still think slower will make a better burn - sharper edges between burn and no burn, deeper blacks (or whatever) in the burns. All I can say after burning many hundreds of CDRs and DVDrs over the the years, I've never noticed any disavantage to burning at the highest rated speed or advantage to burning at a lower speed. I get the same percentage of good or bad burns either way. I suppose that different brands of media could account for different results. Rene |
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Dell computer with no input (now CD writing)
In message , pjp
writes: In article , says... [] Isn't Lightscribe on the other side of the disc? I've not seen lightscribe discs for sale for years - are they still made? And, although I made sure to get a lightscribe-capable drive last time I bought one (the external one for this machine), I've never loaded any special softwa presumably you need to do so to design (and burn?) the labels. (You say they get darker the more times you burn them: does that mean that that side of the discs have an absolute start point the burner can detect, so you _can_ burn them a second and subsequent time, and they line up? And if that's true - and sounds as if it should be - then presumably _that_ part of the burn _would_ be more effective if done at a slower speed.) I used Lightscribe a fair amount for a more or less personal music cd of myself playing guitar. Was nice could give frinds etc. a copy of the disk that looked professional, e.g. in a case with cover etc. and a disk looked store bought. VERY HARD to find any Lightscribe disks anymore. I liked them and still have a couple drives with burn them. Note you had to turn them over to burn the image side and Yes it took awhile, like 20 Min. Did you need special software to both design and burn the "label"? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "I am entitled to my own opinion." "Yes, but it's your constant assumption that everyone else is also that's so annoying." - Vila & Avon |
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On 02 Dec 2017, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in alt.windows7.general: Did you need special software to both design and burn the "label"? Yes. You need special software to burn a Lightscribe label on a disk. |
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In message , Nil
writes: On 02 Dec 2017, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in alt.windows7.general: Did you need special software to both design and burn the "label"? Yes. You need special software to burn a Lightscribe label on a disk. Did it come with the Lightscribe-capable drive? (I don't think any came with mine.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence. D McLeod |
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On 02 Dec 2017, Rene Lamontagne wrote in
alt.windows7.general: I suppose that different brands of media could account for different results. I don't think that has much to do with it. I've used many different brands of CDR/DVDRs, from the cheapest crap to some supposedly "premium" brands. Crummy disks seems to burn equally badly whether burned slow or fast. Good disks burn well whether burned fast or slow. I suppose "good" disks have a longer life, but so far most of even my cheapo disks from long ago are still readable. Of course, some disks are garbage no matter what. But I know that immediately when they fail verification. I think the most important factor is a good writer drive. And they have a limited lifespan. They always, after maybe 3 years or so of heavy use, start being more picky about the media, and are more quick to fail verifications and complaining about burning errors. They often start to have difficulty recognizing certain types of media. That's when I replace them. The new one inevitably starts working fine again. Optical burners are consumables, just like the disks themselves. |
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"Mayayana" on Fri, 1 Dec 2017 19:27:40 -0500
typed in alt.windows7.general the following: "Char Jackson" wrote | Mayayana mentioned grooves in plastic within the context of backing up | data to DVD. Obviously, there are no grooves... ;-) | My understanding is that the writer cuts grooves at various depths underneath the surface as a way to record data. Is that wrong? In any case, it cuts some kind of marks in plastic. It's not just magnetic storage. Close, sort of. The laser burns a "pit" which on read gets interpreted as "zero" - everything else is a one. "Magnetic media" (floppies, tapes, wire if you go back far enough) are all subject to fluctuating magnetic fields, not to mention "decay" in the magnetic signal. CD/DVDs lack that property - but have others (delaminating discs being the big one). -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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Dell computer with no input (now CD writing)
On 02 Dec 2017, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in alt.windows7.general: Did it come with the Lightscribe-capable drive? (I don't think any came with mine.) I usually buy bare drives, so no software from there. I had something that did it, though - maybe it was part of the Nero bundle I used to have. I don't remember, it was a while ago. I still have some blank Lightscribe disks, but I don't think my current burner is Lightscribe capable, and I don't think I still have the software, either. |
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On 12/02/2017 7:56 PM, Nil wrote:
On 02 Dec 2017, Rene Lamontagne wrote in alt.windows7.general: I suppose that different brands of media could account for different results. I don't think that has much to do with it. I've used many different brands of CDR/DVDRs, from the cheapest crap to some supposedly "premium" brands. Crummy disks seems to burn equally badly whether burned slow or fast. Good disks burn well whether burned fast or slow. I suppose "good" disks have a longer life, but so far most of even my cheapo disks from long ago are still readable. Of course, some disks are garbage no matter what. But I know that immediately when they fail verification. I think the most important factor is a good writer drive. And they have a limited lifespan. They always, after maybe 3 years or so of heavy use, start being more picky about the media, and are more quick to fail verifications and complaining about burning errors. They often start to have difficulty recognizing certain types of media. That's when I replace them. The new one inevitably starts working fine again. Optical burners are consumables, just like the disks themselves. Yes, some are not great, my last batch of 50 where good except for 2 which delaminated before I even tried to burn them. My last burner only lasted about 2 years but I replaced it for about 22 dollars, so no big deal. Rene |
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Nil writes: On 02 Dec 2017, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in alt.windows7.general: Did you need special software to both design and burn the "label"? Yes. You need special software to burn a Lightscribe label on a disk. Did it come with the Lightscribe-capable drive? (I don't think any came with mine.) My first LightScribe drive, had a separate software package on the installer CD. At one time, "Retail" drive packages included mounting screws and as many as two software CDs. Packages like a lite version of Nero was on one disc, as well as some sort of DVD movie player. It was easy for them to include the separate LightScribe package, on one of those CDs. For that particular optical drive, you could *only* determine what software was on the CDs, by driving to the store and reading the side of the box. The CD software content was *not* documented on the web. That helps ensure a "bricks and mortar" purchase :-) But since that era, I've bought a few more drives as the OEM "brown bag" versions, which just gives a drive, no mounting screws, and no software discs. If I needed a lightScribe driver for that case, I'd have to hunt on the web site for it. ******* In the BD era, you'd again be advised to carefully review the software situation, as a BD drive can be a "big boat anchor" if you don't have the right materials in hand. If you offered me a BD drive in a brown bag, I'd have to decline your kind offer, as it probably wouldn't do anything without nifty software. ******* There are lots of hardware purchases, where you dare not buy them without the right software to go with them. When I got my TV Tuner a couple months ago, I couldn't even test that the card worked at first, because of the lack of materials on the CD. All the CD had, was a basic driver, and no way to view a picture on the computer screen right away. The first solution I got running properly, was Linux based, and I could at least see that the tuner could scan channels properly. And that's when I discovered the new tuner was more sensitive on receive, than my digital STB (both fed off the same signal via a 2:1 75 ohm splitter). I purchased additional software from the tuner card maker, and it took ten days for physical delivery of a disc. Apparently they've never heard of just sending a license key via email :-/ The software was already on their web site, ready to just plug in the license key to make it work. But we're made to wait for the CD. Like it was 1970 again. I eventually got Media Center running. It takes a registry key edit, and it took me a while to track down what needed to be edited, to make my new purchase work. Initially it was telling me there were "no channels to look at". Geez. By default, all it would do is an NTSC scan, and we don't have any analog OTA channels here. The registry edit made the ATSC scan work in Media Center, and finally I had a digital TV list to look at. Paul |
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In message , pjp
writes: In article , says... [] In article , says... [] [] time I bought one (the external one for this machine), I've never loaded any special softwa presumably you need to do so to design (and burn?) the labels. (You say they get darker the more times you burn them: does [] Did you need special software to both design and burn the "label"? Yes you did. You could download a very simple program from the Lightscribe place would do a basic design or use something like SureThing CD Labeler which offered a lot more versatility though I did find some things confusing using it. Was any of that drive-independent, or did they need separate drivers for each drive? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf once described by Eccentrica Golumbits as the best bang since the big one ... (first series, fit the second) |
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Dell computer with no input (now CD writing, and TV for the blind!)
In message , Paul
writes: J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , Nil writes: On 02 Dec 2017, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in alt.windows7.general: Did you need special software to both design and burn the "label"? Yes. You need special software to burn a Lightscribe label on a disk. Did it come with the Lightscribe-capable drive? (I don't think any came with mine.) My first LightScribe drive, had a separate software package on the installer CD. At one time, "Retail" drive packages included mounting screws and as many as two software CDs. Packages like a lite version of Nero was on one disc, as well as some sort of DVD movie I remember those days - tended to be either Nero or Easy CD Creator, with Nero slightly in the lead on numbers I think. Usually a locked version that would only work with that drive. player. It was easy for them to include the separate LightScribe package, on one of those CDs. As I've just asked pjp, is the Lightscribe software drive-specific? (And/or are there two parts, a designer and a burner, only the latter of which is drive-specific?) [] When I got my TV Tuner a couple months ago, I couldn't even test that the card worked at first, because of the lack of materials on the CD. All the CD had, was a basic driver, and no way to view a picture on the I'm currently trying to find one where the controlling software is usable by the blind (basically that means, can be operated without a mouse, and anything highlighted is text, not a symbol or a _picture_ of some text). I also want it to play the AD (audio description) channel when available, along with the normal sound. But finding out whether it is accessible is virtually impossible. What I'm currently going for is probably the 292e, as I've been assured that that works with VLC and that VLC can be keyboard-operated, but other suggestions are welcome - preferably DVB-T2, as I suspect the UK will switch to T2-only before too long. (If anyone's wondering why a blind person would want a TV tuner - they can and do listen to TV prog.s, especially the ones with AD.) computer screen right away. The first solution I got running properly, was Linux based, and I could at least see that the tuner could scan channels properly. And that's when I discovered the new tuner was more sensitive on receive, than my digital STB (both fed off the same signal via a 2:1 75 ohm splitter). (Did you try both ways round in case the splitter wasn't as symmetrical as it should be?) I purchased additional software from the tuner card maker, and it took ten days for physical delivery of a disc. Apparently they've never heard of just sending a license key via email :-/ The software was already on their web site, ready to just plug in the license key to make it work. But we're made to wait for the CD. Like it was 1970 again. But they accepted the order online? I eventually got Media Center running. It takes a registry key edit, and it took me a while to track down what needed to be edited, to make my new purchase work. Initially it was telling me there were "no channels to look at". Geez. By default, all it would do is an NTSC scan, and we don't have any analog OTA channels here. Here neither - all DTV only. (I don't know if any EU countries are still doing analogue [PAL or SECAM].) The registry edit made the ATSC scan work in Media Center, and finally I had a digital TV list to look at. Paul (My blind friend has: XP, 10, iPhone, and an Android-based machine that does have USB3, but designed for the blind - it has speech and Braille output, and Braille input. That would be the best for the TV stick, but I know little of Android even with a keyboard and screen, so will probably go for a Windows one [though I only have XP and 7], unless anyone _knows_ of one that is child's play to set up on a HIMS Polaris.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf once described by Eccentrica Golumbits as the best bang since the big one ... (first series, fit the second) |
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Dell computer with no input (now CD writing, and TV for the blind!)
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
As I've just asked pjp, is the Lightscribe software drive-specific? (And/or are there two parts, a designer and a burner, only the latter of which is drive-specific?) Since I never did buy any media that was LightScribe enabled, I never had a chance to find out. I think I did install the driver, but I don't think there was a designer, and I don't know what step(s) were required to run the one I had. I'm currently trying to find one where the controlling software is usable by the blind (basically that means, can be operated without a mouse, and anything highlighted is text, not a symbol or a _picture_ of some text). I also want it to play the AD (audio description) channel when available, along with the normal sound. But finding out whether it is accessible is virtually impossible. What I'm currently going for is probably the 292e, as I've been assured that that works with VLC and that VLC can be keyboard-operated, but other suggestions are welcome - preferably DVB-T2, as I suspect the UK will switch to T2-only before too long. (If anyone's wondering why a blind person would want a TV tuner - they can and do listen to TV prog.s, especially the ones with AD.) Some kits come with a remote control, with a channel change, and volume up-down. For my current tuner, I would have to go back to the company web site, as there are two kits for retrofitting various remotes. My SKU was missing the remote control bits (the full retail package is required for that). computer screen right away. The first solution I got running properly, was Linux based, and I could at least see that the tuner could scan channels properly. And that's when I discovered the new tuner was more sensitive on receive, than my digital STB (both fed off the same signal via a 2:1 75 ohm splitter). (Did you try both ways round in case the splitter wasn't as symmetrical as it should be?) I don't think it's the splitter. I've used the splitter before on other RF experiments and not noticed any deficiencies. I purchased additional software from the tuner card maker, and it took ten days for physical delivery of a disc. Apparently they've never heard of just sending a license key via email :-/ The software was already on their web site, ready to just plug in the license key to make it work. But we're made to wait for the CD. Like it was 1970 again. But they accepted the order online? Yes. The back end of their setup, used a fulfillment provider, like they didn't want their own staff running it. (My blind friend has: XP, 10, iPhone, and an Android-based machine that does have USB3, but designed for the blind - it has speech and Braille output, and Braille input. That would be the best for the TV stick, but I know little of Android even with a keyboard and screen, so will probably go for a Windows one [though I only have XP and 7], unless anyone _knows_ of one that is child's play to set up on a HIMS Polaris.) Nothing about tuners is "easy"... unfortunately. Think of your wish as being as much a "development project" as it is a "simple gift purchase". Remember that I barely got mine running, and suffered hair loss (I checked the shower drain). And the fact that the tuner industry is ailing, means that you don't have as wide a selection of things to choose from. Even if I spotted something on the web, I'd have to check whether anybody had stock. For example, the tuner I bought, is now no longer available. There's something to take its place, but doesn't have the same feature set. Paul |
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