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Do you have an iOS device? How to get it to xfer screenshots to Windows 10 easily without that iTunes abomination?
mick wrote:
FileExplorer Pro installed on the iPad from the iPad App Store, nothing is installed on the pc side. Transfers files both ways over wifi. There are many more similar to FileExplorer Pro in the App Store but I find this one is very easy to use. It sees all your shared folders and files on the connected pc or NAS, makes new folders on the iPad side. This version costs $4.99 but well worth it IMO. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/file...499470113?mt=8 There is a free version which I remember trying but found the paid version to be better. I cannot remember why as it was such a long time ago that I tried it. https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/file...510282524?mt=8 Thanks for that suggestion of File Explorer, which I added to my tests: http://i.cubeupload.com/kENW5e.jpg File Explorer pops up on iOS with an "iTunes Files" screen in the "Local" section, where I must note that the iTunes abomination will never be on my Windows machines, so, of course, that first choice will always come up empty. http://i.cubeupload.com/Q4hhv6.jpg Much more useful is clicking on the "Photo Library" section, which shows all the photos and screenshots and videos taken on the iOS device. http://i.cubeupload.com/7qKpox.jpg Even though I had placed a working iOS device on the same desk, it didn't find it, so, I'm not sure why but I didn't explore the "Nearby iOS Devices" section any further. https://cubeupload.com/im/NcdNbb.jpg Hitting the plus (+) button to make a new connection, I first got a pop up admonition that the free version can only connect to one external device at a time, which is fine by me: https://cubeupload.com/im/pB5xS6.jpg Here is a list of the new connection types, with Windows being the one I hit: https://cubeupload.com/im/KudJRz.jpg I only had to enter in the hostname (IP address) of the Windows computer on the LAN where the port defaulted to 445 (which is OK by me) and my username and password on Windows: https://cubeupload.com/im/pGy4UJ.jpg And I had to remember if I had a password or not on Windows, which I don't: https://cubeupload.com/im/gvAIGQ.jpg In this first test, I turned on everything, but I'm not sure what "DFS" is: https://cubeupload.com/im/NFZN0c.jpg That created this "CONNECTIONS" field on the left of this screenshot: https://cubeupload.com/im/ET8Ixd.jpg But the actual logging in to make the connection took horribly long ... minutes ... I didn't time it ... but jesus ... minutes to log in! https://cubeupload.com/im/PHo2hk.jpg More minutes... https://cubeupload.com/im/6kDO9d.jpg No matter what I do, or how many times I try, I get "Permission Denied" even when using my login and no password. https://cubeupload.com/im/3N2HXd.jpg The best I can get out of the FileExplorer app is the error: Connection failed with the error: Socket Error: 57 https://cubeupload.com/im/QOsuQc.jpg So I will give up on FileExplorer, but I thank you for the suggestion. |
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from my phone (not smartphone) to my laptop, I do it by bluetooth. With Windows 10 it is quite easy. When I am away from the my network, I also do transfers between my laptop and tablet, the same way. If the ipad and the PC have bluetooth you are in business. If the ipad has bluetooth but the pc does not, you can buy a bluetooth adapter that plugs into the USB port of your PC and then do bluetooth transfers. As you noted, almost all mobile devices have Bluetooth ad hoc file transfer services, which mean that a connection is established computer-to-computer. It's not fast, which is what those who don't like it will decry, but I've used Bluethooth thousands of times on Android to transfer screenshots from my phone to my laptop (which has bluetooth, as most laptops do). Unfortunately, this situation is using a desktop, where mine has no bluetooth card that I know of. It does, however, have SMB, so I /wish/ I knew more about getting SMB to work on Windows. This program, for example, sets up SMB on the iOS device. http://i.cubeupload.com/aw1fsZ.jpg Apparently it shares the iOS device as the address smb://192.168.1.14 http://i.cubeupload.com/c53HYP.jpg Windows and Linux can handle SMB but I'm not all that experienced with SMB so I don't know why it didn't show up in Windows when I entered \\192.168.1.14\Share or even just \\192.168.1.14 or Net Use X: \\192.168.1.14 etc. Giving up on SMB, the app also turned on its HTTP server for two way file sharing. http://i.cubeupload.com/NBIyhw.jpg And it has an FTP server for two way file sharing. http://i.cubeupload.com/Xfh67k.jpg In summary, WiFi HD might have the edge as the best tool only if I can get SMB to work. Does anyone have a good test of SMB that I can test on Windows that will work so that I can get used to the SMB syntax on Windows? |
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Ant wrote:
Isn't BlueTooth very slow? :/ Everyone says that BlueTooth is slow, and it is slow, but, it's fast enough for some things, as I have used it hundreds of times to transfer an individual screenshot or a few of them from my Android devices to a laptop. BlueTooth is great for that because it establishes its own ad-hoc network, computer to computer. BT won't work for large files, such as movies are, but for a 5MB screenshot, it's transferred in just a few seconds. The problem with bluetooth here is that my desktop doesn't have bluetooth, so that's why the question is to use USB or the Wi-Fi lan. I do have success, so, it's not like I'm dead - but I was asking what YOU use, since I can't be the only person here with iOS and Windows. I did try these same solutions with Windows, since the desktop is dual boot, where it's even easier on Linux than it is on Windows but only because Linux handles Windows HDDs far better than Windows handles Linux HDDs. https://i.cubeupload.com/F74KFn.jpg |
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ultred ragnusen wrote:
Ant wrote: Isn't BlueTooth very slow? :/ Everyone says that BlueTooth is slow, and it is slow, but, it's fast enough for some things, as I have used it hundreds of times to transfer an individual screenshot or a few of them from my Android devices to a laptop. BlueTooth is great for that because it establishes its own ad-hoc network, computer to computer. BT won't work for large files, such as movies are, but for a 5MB screenshot, it's transferred in just a few seconds. The problem with bluetooth here is that my desktop doesn't have bluetooth, so that's why the question is to use USB or the Wi-Fi lan. I do have success, so, it's not like I'm dead - but I was asking what YOU use, since I can't be the only person here with iOS and Windows. I did try these same solutions with Windows, since the desktop is dual boot, where it's even easier on Linux than it is on Windows but only because Linux handles Windows HDDs far better than Windows handles Linux HDDs. https://i.cubeupload.com/F74KFn.jpg USB to BT are inexpensive devices. -- Zaidy036 |
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On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:50:59 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote: ultred ragnusen wrote: I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300. http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg Congratulations. What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the iPad to Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over either USB http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows. http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can easily transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/ to Windows (like we do with Android)? Reminds me of my experience with an iPhone. That is the worst part, being unable to easily transfer files between an Apple device and a PC. Every other consumer product in the world shares files with a PC via a USB cable. Good news! IOS devices can do that. |
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On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:50:59 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote: ultred ragnusen wrote: I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300. http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg Congratulations. What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the iPad to Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over either USB http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows. http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can easily transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/ to Windows (like we do with Android)? Reminds me of my experience with an iPhone. That is the worst part, being unable to easily transfer files between an Apple device and a PC. Every other consumer product in the world shares files with a PC via a USB cable. As do Apple devices. |
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-- Lucifer Morningstar not for.mail wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lucifer Morningstar not for.mail Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Do you have an iOS device? How to get it to xfer screenshots to Windows 10 easily without that iTunes abomination? Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 20:43:24 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: u87fad9qr858g2tcr2t5c4vrn60drgih0d 4ax.com References: p7svdg$1s5t$1 gioia.aioe.org p7thti$aps$1 dont-email.me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="37a496d61af0d1400d8672753eb6a367"; logging-data="13527"; mail-complaints-to="abuse eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/FmxWkCm2TECK9CjpSOvbl" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:rwpGvWsKZpbSOJAlotvhgn4Kg3w= Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org alt.comp.os.windows-10:65284 On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:50:59 -0000 (UTC), John Doe always.look message.header wrote: ultred ragnusen ultred ragnusen.com wrote: I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300. http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg Congratulations. What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the iPad to Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over either USB http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows. http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can easily transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/ to Windows (like we do with Android)? Reminds me of my experience with an iPhone. That is the worst part, being unable to easily transfer files between an Apple device and a PC. Every other consumer product in the world shares files with a PC via a USB cable. Good news! IOS devices can do that. |
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-- Lucifer Morningstar not for.mail wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lucifer Morningstar not for.mail Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Do you have an iOS device? How to get it to xfer screenshots to Windows 10 easily without that iTunes abomination? Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 20:44:18 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: ua7fadln9aqtivf1qplbfiu9o0i23phovs 4ax.com References: p7svdg$1s5t$1 gioia.aioe.org p7thti$aps$1 dont-email.me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="37a496d61af0d1400d8672753eb6a367"; logging-data="13527"; mail-complaints-to="abuse eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ECzi6Oaew93dZCHW3hrU+" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:GYFSeHlMhWTf6KVQxRw8zjxEPy8= Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org alt.comp.os.windows-10:65286 On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:50:59 -0000 (UTC), John Doe always.look message.header wrote: ultred ragnusen ultred ragnusen.com wrote: I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300. http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg Congratulations. What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the iPad to Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over either USB http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows. http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can easily transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/ to Windows (like we do with Android)? Reminds me of my experience with an iPhone. That is the worst part, being unable to easily transfer files between an Apple device and a PC. Every other consumer product in the world shares files with a PC via a USB cable. As do Apple devices. |
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On 13/03/2018 00:58:04, ultred ragnusen wrote:
mick wrote: FileExplorer Pro installed on the iPad from the iPad App Store, nothing is installed on the pc side. Transfers files both ways over wifi. There are many more similar to FileExplorer Pro in the App Store but I find this one is very easy to use. It sees all your shared folders and files on the connected pc or NAS, makes new folders on the iPad side. This version costs $4.99 but well worth it IMO. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/file...499470113?mt=8 There is a free version which I remember trying but found the paid version to be better. I cannot remember why as it was such a long time ago that I tried it. https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/file...510282524?mt=8 Thanks for that suggestion of File Explorer, which I added to my tests: http://i.cubeupload.com/kENW5e.jpg File Explorer pops up on iOS with an "iTunes Files" screen in the "Local" section, where I must note that the iTunes abomination will never be on my Windows machines, so, of course, that first choice will always come up empty. http://i.cubeupload.com/Q4hhv6.jpg Much more useful is clicking on the "Photo Library" section, which shows all the photos and screenshots and videos taken on the iOS device. http://i.cubeupload.com/7qKpox.jpg Even though I had placed a working iOS device on the same desk, it didn't find it, so, I'm not sure why but I didn't explore the "Nearby iOS Devices" section any further. https://cubeupload.com/im/NcdNbb.jpg Hitting the plus (+) button to make a new connection, I first got a pop up admonition that the free version can only connect to one external device at a time, which is fine by me: https://cubeupload.com/im/pB5xS6.jpg Here is a list of the new connection types, with Windows being the one I hit: https://cubeupload.com/im/KudJRz.jpg I only had to enter in the hostname (IP address) of the Windows computer on the LAN where the port defaulted to 445 (which is OK by me) and my username and password on Windows: https://cubeupload.com/im/pGy4UJ.jpg And I had to remember if I had a password or not on Windows, which I don't: https://cubeupload.com/im/gvAIGQ.jpg In this first test, I turned on everything, but I'm not sure what "DFS" is: https://cubeupload.com/im/NFZN0c.jpg That created this "CONNECTIONS" field on the left of this screenshot: https://cubeupload.com/im/ET8Ixd.jpg But the actual logging in to make the connection took horribly long ... minutes ... I didn't time it ... but jesus ... minutes to log in! https://cubeupload.com/im/PHo2hk.jpg More minutes... https://cubeupload.com/im/6kDO9d.jpg No matter what I do, or how many times I try, I get "Permission Denied" even when using my login and no password. https://cubeupload.com/im/3N2HXd.jpg The best I can get out of the FileExplorer app is the error: Connection failed with the error: Socket Error: 57 https://cubeupload.com/im/QOsuQc.jpg So I will give up on FileExplorer, but I thank you for the suggestion. I remember now, I use the Pro version because I connect to multiple devices. I am almost certain that you need to set up a password for win 10 when you start up your pc. Trying to connect iOS to your windows pc needs the ip address or the win 10 computer name AND a password, that is why it is timing out on your ipad. You also must have network discovery turned on on win 10 and at least one shared folder on the win 10 machine. I guess from reading the thread you have done this already. DFS is off on my ipad. DFS https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...(v=ws.10).aspx -- mick |
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mick wrote:
So I will give up on FileExplorer, but I thank you for the suggestion. I remember now, I use the Pro version because I connect to multiple devices. I appreciate your advice as I'm trying to accomplish connectivity, and I'm trying to document that connectivity between iOS and Windows so that future users can find the tribal knowledge in the Windows 10 archives at http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10 Hence, I will provide lots of screenshots and actual URLs and settings so that others can follow successfully in our footsteps without being forced to use that highly restrictive iTunes abomination on Windows (which doesn't even work in the real world, even if it weren't an abomination on Windows). For the record, here's where this information will be archived: http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.p...7f& t=1103286 I'm perfectly fine with the restriction of one computer for the File Explorer free app, as that's all I need for now. Besides, if I want to set up a second computer, it's easily enough done simply by deleting the first setup. It's only the login/password, iPaddressort anyway. DFS is off on my ipad. DFS https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...(v=ws.10).aspx Thanks for that link to a description of the Windows Distributed File System (DFS), which isn't anything I think I want, but even so, I'll just leave this DFS setting as it is in File Explorer on the iOS iPad. https://cubeupload.com/im/NFZN0c.jpg I am almost certain that you need to set up a password for win 10 when you start up your pc. That's an interesting point of view, which I can only say that I'm pretty sure I don't have a password for my Windows 10 account, as shown he http://i.cubeupload.com/bNrn4e.jpg I guess I could /add/ a password, temporarily, just to test if that is the problem, but the File Explorer program should give a better error than Error 57. http://i.cubeupload.com/0cgrLB.jpg Trying to connect iOS to your windows pc needs the ip address or the win 10 computer name AND a password, that is why it is timing out on your ipad. I don't disagree with you that File Explorer might be timing out because /it/ requires the IP address, the port, the login name, and a password, but there is no password, because Windows doesn't need a password. Just to see if that was the problem, I /added/ a password to Windows and tried again after checking the IP address on Windows with ipconfig. Oh. Um. Yeah. You were right. It worked! Fancy that. So, even though Windows doesn't require a password, File Explorer does require a password? Or, is it that Windows won't share things without requiring a password? Anyway, this is a lot better. There are 4 folders available: - ADMIN$ (it won't let me see anything there though - I don't know why) - C$ (it won't let me see anything there though - I don't know why) - D$ (it won't let me see anything there though - I don't know why) - E$ (it won't let me see anything there though - I don't know why) Any idea why I can't get into those 4 folders which seem to be my C, D, and E drives (where I'm not sure what ADMIN$ indicates)? You also must have network discovery turned on on win 10 and at least one shared folder on the win 10 machine. I guess from reading the thread you have done this already. Oooops. Nope. I haven't needed to do /anything/ on Windows until now. a. I haven't created a "shared" folder (I don't even know what that is) b. I haven't turned on "network discovery" (I don't know what it is) Googling for how to turn on "network discovery", I read this first: https://tunecomp.net/all-methods-to-...in-windows-10/ None of the screenshots in that document matched what I had in Win10 Creators Edition for an Ethernet connection, in this location - Control Panel\Network and Internet\Network and Sharing Center\Advanced sharing settings http://i.cubeupload.com/es1dGD.jpg So I set two switches in that panel: 1. Turn on sharing so anyone with network access can red and write files in the Public folders 2. Turn off password protected sharing http://i.cubeupload.com/O0XF8L.jpg Doing only that, immediately added a fifth folder to "File Explorer". - Users Inside of "Users" in File Explorer on iOS were 3 folders and one file: - Default (I presume this is the C:\Users\ultred\Default directory) - Public (I presume this is the C:\Users\ultred\Public directory) - ultred (This appears to be the C:\Users\ultred directory) - desktop.ini The great news is that by adding an unwanted password to my account, and turning on file sharing, I was able to get File Explorer to work, but only in the C:\Users hierarchy (the other directories such as C$ still don't work). That's too bad because, by long-standing well-thought-out design, I never store /anything/ in the C:\Users hierarchy (at least not on purpose), but this restriction is not deadly because I can move anything out that I do store there, if necessary. As a simple test from Windows to iPad, I found some MS Office templates: https://www.davis.k12.ut.us/Page/2783 And then downloaded from Windows this Microsoft Word document: https://www.davis.k12.ut.us/cms/lib/...sl-quotes.docx And this Excel document: https://www.davis.k12.ut.us/cms/lib/...-students.xlsx To the Windows folder: C:\Users\Public\Documents Lo and behold, these two new documents showed up on the iPad in File Explorer over WiFi. When I tapped on the Excel document in File Explorer, it mentioned it was downloading, and then it popped up in some unknown editor on the iPad. The Word document came up quicker in the unknown editor on the iPad, where this proves the connection from Windows to iOS over WiFi via File Explorer. To test the other direction, from the iOS device to Windows, I created a document in the default iOS "Notes" app. Unfortunately, in "Notes", when you hit the "sharing" icon, there isn't much you can do with it since the only "apps" you can send it to are Email, Pocket, Message, Mail, etc. (none of which are useful choices for apps). There is a "Save to files" icon though, which can only save to an extremely limited set of apps, namely: - GarageBand - Keynote - Numbers - Pages - VLC None of which are useful apps since I wish to save the file to the "File Explorer" app, which doesn't show up in this list. This limitation may be just because the primitive "Notes" app is too dumb to do anything useful, since it /should/ have been trivial to save the file to the File Explorer app private space. So I need to ask you, mick, if you've been able to get files from iOS to Windows using the "File Explorer" app on iOS? If so, what's the trick? Thinking of another way, while I wait, if I use Chrome, I get even more primitive sharing options on iOS, but if I use Safari on iOS, the sharing options include "File Explorer", so here's what I tried. I opened the Safari browser to a test PowerPoint doc at https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/to...amplepptx.pptx While viewing that PowerPoint doc in Safari, I hit the "Sharing" button and then the "Copy to File Explorer" button. http://i.cubeupload.com/twlGlG.jpg There was no indication of anything happening, which is a flaw in any operating system, but which is pretty normal for iOS. The document did not seem to go into File Explorer, so, the user is left wondering what happened. http://i.cubeupload.com/mAUKPG.jpg The same primitive results happened when I pressed the Safari Sharing "Save to Files", where the only options available didn't include any apps of any use for the file-transfer purpose. Interestingly, I hit the "save to Air Transfer" button inside of the primitive Safari sharing mechanism, and it immediately told me with a great graphic that it was saved into the "Documents" folder of Air Transfer app. http://i.cubeupload.com/l3r5Oj.jpg Using the primitive and limited Safari Sharing "Save to MFExplorer" button also worked fine, successfully putting the file in the MyFileExplorer private space under the "Import" directory. http://i.cubeupload.com/sYEQVj.jpg So, for whatever reason, either Safari failed and didn't provide any messages when trying to save into the private space of "File Explorer", or, maybe it worked, but File Explorer isn't showing where the file went? |
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Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
Good news! IOS devices can do that. I have all the common operating systems in the real world: 1. iOS 2. Android 3. Linux 4. Windows And all I expect is for them to play nice with each other. This thread is only about iOS, where the one huge difference is that the "visible" part of the iOS file system is limited to two things. A. The space inside of the DCIM directory tree B. The space inside non-Apple 3rd-party apps (such as file-transfer apps) Given this is the "visible" part of the iOS file system, the trick is to put things into those visible locations, which isn't a problem for camera shots, camera videos, or screenshots. As with all things iOS, it's much harder than it should be to simply put a larger movie video or document downloaded off the web into a "visible" file space, but it can be done, if the application allows it. For example, on iOS, Safari allows download of this document to the file-transfer program private space, but Chrome on iOS does not. https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/to...amplepptx.pptx If you use just the right software, and hit just the right buttons, then you can place your files into the "visible" space (aka private space) of the file-transfer programs. Once your files are in "visible" space, then you can transfer those files to Linux or Windows via at least these methods: 1. USB (I have this working only one way, & only for Camera files) 2. FTP (I have this working flawlessly both ways on Linux & Windows) 3. HTTP (I have this working flawlessly both ways on Linux & Windows) 4. SMB (I don't have enough knowledge of syntax yet to test this out) 5. BT (I don't have a Bluetooth PCI card or USB dongle on this desktop) 6. App-specific transfer (e.g., "File Explorer", "VLC", etc.) |
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Zaidy036 wrote:
USB to BT are inexpensive devices. To add to the tribal knowledge of the group, I'll expand on your suggestion of adding a BT dongle or PCI card to the desktop. http://www.wirelesshack.org/how-to-a...r-desktop.html While I'm soured on dongles, which, for me, tend to break off as people walk by my machine (ask me how I know this), certainly PCI cards are cheap, as you noted. Googling a bit, here's a $12 BT dongle from Walmart: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sabrent-M...apter/15819367 Given my laptop is running WiFi out of the Ethernet port, I could also use a WiFi card (since I broke my WiFi dongle - see above) where this is a $43 PCI card that adds both WiFi and Bluetooth to the desktop: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019JH89YI Once your files are in "visible" space, then you can transfer those files to Linux or Windows via at least these methods: 1. USB (I have this working only one way, & only for Camera files) 2. FTP (I have this working flawlessly both ways on Linux & Windows) 3. HTTP (I have this working flawlessly both ways on Linux & Windows) 4. SMB (I don't have enough knowledge of syntax yet to test this out) 5. BT (I don't have a Bluetooth PCI card or USB dongle on this desktop) 6. App-specific transfer (e.g., "File Explorer", "VLC", etc.) |
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Do you have an iOS device? How to get it to xfer screenshots to Windows 10 easily without that iTunes abomination?
Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
Every other consumer product in the world shares files with a PC via a USB cable. As do Apple devices. It's true to a degree, just as it's true that cars are safe nowadays, to a degree, where the primitive iOS architecture doesn't work all that well over USB compared to a more modern mobile device architecture such as Android. For example, this is Android over USB on my Win10 desktop: http://i.cubeupload.com/E69C5D.jpg Since iOS file sharing is primitive compared to modern operating systems, this is the best we can do, so far, when plugging in iOS to Windows: http://i.cubeupload.com/d2zUb4.jpg The good news is that this allows at least one way file transfer to at least one directory tree, but other than that, the primitive iOS infrastructure blocks the kind of modern two-way multi-folder transfer that the more modern operating systems allow. http://i.cubeupload.com/XG0um4.jpg Remember, we're never going to install the iTunes abomination on Windows or Linux, for a huge number of reasons, not the least that it's restrictive software and restrictions aren't what we're seeking, nor does it work in the real world anyway (which includes Linux). |
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Do you have an iOS device? How to get it to xfer screenshotsto Windows 10 easily without that iTunes abomination?
ultred ragnusen wrote:
Lucifer Morningstar wrote: Every other consumer product in the world shares files with a PC via a USB cable. As do Apple devices. It's true to a degree, just as it's true that cars are safe nowadays, to a degree, where the primitive iOS architecture doesn't work all that well over USB compared to a more modern mobile device architecture such as Android. For example, this is Android over USB on my Win10 desktop: http://i.cubeupload.com/E69C5D.jpg Since iOS file sharing is primitive compared to modern operating systems, this is the best we can do, so far, when plugging in iOS to Windows: http://i.cubeupload.com/d2zUb4.jpg The good news is that this allows at least one way file transfer to at least one directory tree, but other than that, the primitive iOS infrastructure blocks the kind of modern two-way multi-folder transfer that the more modern operating systems allow. http://i.cubeupload.com/XG0um4.jpg Remember, we're never going to install the iTunes abomination on Windows or Linux, for a huge number of reasons, not the least that it's restrictive software and restrictions aren't what we're seeking, nor does it work in the real world anyway (which includes Linux). There's nothing primitive about that. It's a walled garden, intended to wall off the copying of commercial content all over the place (except as vetted by iTunes policies, whatever they are this week). By exposing DCIM over MTP, unidirectional, that is an "emulation" of a digital camera. Whatever is shot through the lens of the camera on your iPad is "your" content, it doesn't belong to Getty or anyone else. You can download the DCIM files, in the same sense you can download files from DCIM on your regular digital camera. Think of it as a digital camera emulation kinda outside the walled garden, provided for your "convenience". The model is still consistent with the Apple way of doing things. When you buy Apple, you buy the whole package. If the iPad could be rooted, maybe it could be different ? I don't keep track of how root-able little smartphones and **** are these days. What's the point ? If I need a hassle or a nuisance, I now have a pretty good idea where I can find it. My digital camera doesn't have issues. I get the files just fine. Mine isn't a Wifi model, but I bet there are more modern cameras where the Wifi works too. ******* It used to be possible, to take iTunes installer apart with 7ZIP, into separate installers, and just install a portion of it. But I can't remember what protocols or options this exposes. Maybe you can look this up somewhere ? https://apple.stackexchange.com/ques...talling-itunes Apple Mobile Device Support https://www.ghacks.net/2017/06/12/ho...ts-on-windows/ "Apple Mobile Device Support The program is required when you sync data between iTunes and Apple mobile devices such as the iPad, iPhone, or the iPod. If you uninstall the program, iTunes continues to work. You won't be able to sync data to Apple devices anymore using iTunes however because of the missing component." I tried some search terms to see if I could catch any Windows applications tapping into AMDS on their own. https://support.imazing.com/hc/en-us...evice-Windows- Which leads us here. Just an example of the kinda stuff to look for. https://imazing.com/ I've taken apart the iTunes installer (maybe 70MB or so) a number of times, and played with the individual component installers. More modern versions have "interlocks" where one thing won't run unless it can "sniff" some side effect from another. It's not a guaranteed thing that the iTunes package today (which is now sans QuickTime for Windows), can be abused. But if you go back some number of releases, it might be a bit more exposed. The developer ("imazing") should cover this part of the process for you, and identify a "success formula" for abusing AMDS. And that still doesn't say what portion of the file system they've hacked that way. You won't know until you trial their stuff. It might even be iOS version dependent (you pay for it, then Apple breaks it on you). I think you probably know by now, what that tune sounds like. As a former Apple user, I'm all too familiar with their practices. I bought a video card for my G4. And guess what happens ? On the very next OS upgrade, there is *no* video driver, *and* the OS blacklists the old driver. Sweet. So, I got out my Xacto knife, my soldering iron, I cut the nads off that card, flashed the 128KB ROM with a 64KB Windows ROM with CAS3 memory setting. Worked fine in a PC and I got five years of gaming out of it. Until the Molex power connector, a pin burned on it. I did get my moneys worth, despite Apples best efforts to prevent me from enjoying my purchase. So yeah, been there, bought the Tshirt. I had to continue running the G4 from the provided (default) 9000 card. HTH, Paul |
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Do you have an iOS device? How to get it to xfer screenshots to Windows 10 easily without that iTunes abomination?
Paul wrote:
It's a walled garden, intended to wall off the copying of commercial content all over the place (except as vetted by iTunes policies, whatever they are this week). You can't argue with success? |
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